Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Janice, Dr Weil's comments are of course nothing new; they represent the kind of thinking that has prevented many of us from using coocnut oil for many years. In fact, the evidence in favour of coconut oil is quite overwhelming. He should read Kabara,. Enig, peat, Dayrit and others. I look to the people of the tropics to form my own opinion. Coconut oil has been a diet staple al over the Pacfic Islands, in Central and South America and in the Caribbean for centuries. There the people KNOW just how good it is. And their health statistics prove it! .. But such reactions are bound to come, as slowly the word spreads. i expect many such reactions, and any even stronger There is going to be resistance.. I now not only believe that coconut oil is different than animal fats, i also don't believe that saturated fats in general are nearly as bad as their reputation would have it. The Framingham study, which went on for decades trying to find a correlation between saturated fats and heart disaese, finally had to admit that they could find none. Does you fried agree with Dr Weil, or why did she/he want you to post this? I think most of us here already know the negative rhetoric against coconut oil. regards, Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 " In fact, the evidence in favour of coconut oil is quite overwhelming. He should read Kabara,. Enig, peat, Dayrit and others. " Sharon, I am interested in reading Dayrit's findings. Where can I find such evidence? Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 There is a discussion about coconut oil on Dr Weil's website discussion board. Needless to say, I gave my own 2 cents, and mine is not the only pro voice. I think it's good to speak up in such cases becasue that's the only way we can dispell these myths. Perhaps Dr Weil is not quite as closed up as others - perhaps he wil listen...? the link is: http://forums.drweil.com/n/mb/listsf.asp?webtag=drwQA & gfc=1 & sts=12/4/2003%203:23\ :35%20PM & redirCnt=1 Another thread on that discussion board asks about soy, and here again weil takes the traditional view: it's mostly OK. Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Here is a link: http://www.dost.gov.ph/media/article.php?sid=289 There are other articles, just doa search with Dayrit and coocnut oil. Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 ...and here's a report by Dayrit himself. http://www.doh.gov.ph/sars/coconut_oil.htm Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Dr. Weil has pulled in his horns since becoming famous. Since He is paid by the U, that gets paid by the big Pharms, He is under control of the Big Pharms. Same thing with Dr. Linus ing's Institute, the one He started is down to 200 mg of Vitamin C per day, as Dr. Weil. Go see Dr. Weil, Rath Cathcart and others. Similarly it is very common for an expert in one field to expound in another field and look foolish. Best Regards, Lorenzo More than half of the advisors to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies that have an interest in FDA decisions. (Source: Cauchon D. " FDA advisers tied to industry. " USA Today. September 25, 2000:01A.) Junk food marketers spent an estimated $15 billion in 2002 on marketing aimed at children..... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 This is the cop-out the MDs use for everything they don't sell! Always they " need more studies " . This is in the face of the facts that most of the treatments they do use are not supported by " study " evidence. ing and Cameron demonstrated that Vitamin C patients lived longer and much more comfortably on Vitamin C Therapy many years ago; But the oncologists still poison peoples immune system with radiation and chemo. The American Heart Association has a graph that I was unable to copy due to computer problems that shows the heart disease death rates horrifying increase since year 1900. This increase correlates with the increase of sugar and VEGETABLE OIL in the American diet. A flattish area around 1980 shows when the sales of vitamins became strong. The Corn , Soy and Canola institutes condemned Coconut and Palm oils starting about 1950. I fry gently using Palm oil and cook with Coconut oil for five years now. Using Popcorn oil before finding TT. Coconut oil is in the " preemie " formula! Best Regards, Lorenzo More than half of the advisors to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies that have an interest in FDA decisions. (Source: Cauchon D. " FDA advisers tied to industry. " USA Today. September 25, 2000:01A.) Junk food marketers spent an estimated $15 billion in 2002 on marketing aimed at children..... Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn’t come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn’t stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs’ are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don’t have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil’s effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 One more thing! " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals " ...........Wrong! Coconut oil is liquid at 76 Degrees. Human body temperature is 98 Degrees. Coconut oil has a different structure than the Vegetable oils. Best Regards, Lorenzo More than half of the advisors to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have financial relationships with pharmaceutical companies that have an interest in FDA decisions. (Source: Cauchon D. " FDA advisers tied to industry. " USA Today. September 25, 2000:01A.) Junk food marketers spent an estimated $15 billion in 2002 on marketing aimed at children..... Re: Dr. Weil... Any Comments ...and here's a report by Dayrit himself. http://www.doh.gov.ph/sars/coconut_oil.htm Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Doctor Weil used to be an interesting & free thinking person when he way young -- back before he actually started practicing medicine. Now he is a doc who grows fat from the establishment -- by being just a teeny tiny bit off the mainstream. Weil is (IMO) a disgrace to the alternative health community. I liked Weil much better when he was a young man tripping with the natives out in the jungle. Alobar Dr. Weil... Any Comments > A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. > > " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even > bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " > > Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from > animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, > therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In > the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial > baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade > because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. > > Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; > it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The > rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain > triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as > readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research > from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also > boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when > they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' > are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people > who have trouble digesting fat. > > Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains > trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral > and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is > actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called > monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and > their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any > evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other > saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are > likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about > coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight > loss, I do not recommend using it. > > Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 " . . .but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. " Coconut oil was " phased out because of intensive advertising by the Edible Oil Industry. The makers of vegetable oils. More information can be found at : www.westonaprice.org <http://www.westonaprice.org/> Judith Alta -----Original Message----- " In fact, the evidence in favour of coconut oil is quite overwhelming. He should read Kabara,. Enig, peat, Dayrit and others. " Sharon, I am interested in reading Dayrit's findings. Where can I find such evidence? Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 >Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn’t come from >animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, >therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In >the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial >baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade >because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. It wasn't consumer opposition, it was the Center for Science in the Public Interest that campaigned against using coconut oil in movie popcorn. The CSPI, if I remember correctly, had some connection with the seed oil associations (such as soybean growers) that launched a propaganda campaign against tropical oils. (See " Beyond Pritikin " by Ann-Louise Gittleman for details.) >Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; >it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The >rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain >triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn’t stored in the body as fat as >readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research >from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also >boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when >they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs’ >are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people >who have trouble digesting fat. > >Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains >trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral >and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is >actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called >monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and >their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don’t have any >evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other >saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are >likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about >coconut oil’s effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight >loss, I do not recommend using it. > Weil, M.D. I'm in the middle of reading Dr. Weil's book " Spontaneous Healing, " and it is very impressive. However, it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't recommend coconut oil if he hasn't studied it or if he isn't convinced by what little research exists. While he has gotten far beyond his Harvard Medical School training in an expanded concept of health and wellness (vs an emphasis on disease and a mechanistic view of the human body), from what I've read of his columns in magazines, he's still on the low-fat, semi-vegetarian bandwagon. The best evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. Jeanmarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 >Go see Dr. Weil, Rath Cathcart and others. Lorenzo, who is Rath Cathcart? Thanks, Jeanmarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hello Wilhelm! I don't know if they have written any books; I think not. I refer to articles which can be found on the net, if you do an internet search using these names and " coconut oil " . I'll try and send thelinks later. Sharon Dr. Weil... Any Comments A friend of mine asked me to post this to this forum for input. " i hope this is not true, as i have bought it by the gallon and even bought another gallon because of TT's sale. " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 > I'm in the middle of reading Dr. Weil's book " Spontaneous Healing, " > and it is very impressive. However, it doesn't surprise me that he > doesn't recommend coconut oil if he hasn't studied it or if he isn't > convinced by what little research exists. While he has gotten far > beyond his Harvard Medical School training in an expanded concept of > health and wellness (vs an emphasis on disease and a mechanistic view > of the human body), from what I've read of his columns in magazines, > he's still on the low-fat, semi-vegetarian bandwagon. The best > evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. > > Jeanmarie Sharon, Lorenzo, Alobar, Judith, Jeanmarie, I tried sending this earlier from my e-mail and it came back. So I'm sending this from the internet directly (and I'm trying again from my e-mail so this response may come through twice, if it does just ignor the second one). Great responses, lots of info. Terrific! Thanks. Sharon, my friend is not wanting to believe this info, just wanting to check to get a second opinion from others that are more knowledgeable on the subject, from personal use, etc. Lorenzo... >Dr. Weil has pulled in his horns since becoming famous. >Since He is paid by the U, that gets paid by the big Pharms, He is under control of the Big Pharms... I understand the big Pharms, but what does U stand for? And again Lorenzo, what does this mean... > " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals " ...........Wrong! >Coconut oil is liquid at 76 Degrees. Human body temperature is 98 Degrees. >Coconut oil has a different structure than the Vegetable oils. I don't understand the distinction between being liquid at 76 Degrees and the human body temperature. Could you help me here, please? >The best evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. Jeanmarie I couldn't agree more. In fact that's one of the very things I said to my friend, trust your own experience. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Sharon, Lorenzo, Alobar, Judith, Jeanmarie, Great responses, lots of info. Terrific! Thanks. Sharon, my friend is not wanting to believe this info, just wanting to check to get a second opinion from others that are more knowledgeable on the subject, from personal use, etc. Lorenzo... >Dr. Weil has pulled in his horns since becoming famous. >Since He is paid by the U, that gets paid by the big Pharms, He is under control of the Big Pharms... I understand the big Pharms, but what does U stand for? And again Lorenzo, what does this mean... > " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals " ...........Wrong! >Coconut oil is liquid at 76 Degrees. Human body temperature is 98 Degrees. >Coconut oil has a different structure than the Vegetable oils. I don't understand the distinction between being liquid at 76 Degrees and the human body temperature. Could you help me here, please? >The best evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. Jeanmarie I couldn't agree more. In fact that's one of the very things I said to my friend, trust your own experience. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 >Go see Dr. Weil, Rath Cathcart and others. Lorenzo, who is Rath Cathcart? Thanks, Jeanmarie REPLY I put " Rath Cathcart " in to Google and clicked on search the web; results follow Web Images Groups Directory News Searched English pages for Rath Cathcart. Results 1 - 20 of about 413. Search took 0.36 seconds. The Dr. Rath Health Foundation .... 21.Ames, BN, Cathcart, R., Schwiers, E. & Hochstein, P. 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Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Once again, if the AMA group does not approve of something they ask for more scientific proof. Conversely much of what they use and approve has no scientific proof of safety and or effectiveness. Sorry " U " stands for the University that Dr. Weil is now working for. " Saturated Fat " The horrible saturated fat that started all this was the fat in Beef, Pork and Chicken. That fat is solid at fairly high cooking temperatures. Coconut oil and Palm oil are not saturated by that measure. They are similar to butter. Those same " scientists " made vegetable oil solid at about the same temperature so that it could be sold as margarine and were telling us to use it, however that is the chemically altered oil. It is not natural and now is considered dangerous by some, includes me. In short, Coconut oil is not really a saturated fat. Best Regards, Lorenzo Subject: Re: Dr. Weil... Any Comments > I'm in the middle of reading Dr. Weil's book " Spontaneous Healing, " > and it is very impressive. However, it doesn't surprise me that he > doesn't recommend coconut oil if he hasn't studied it or if he isn't > convinced by what little research exists. While he has gotten far > beyond his Harvard Medical School training in an expanded concept of > health and wellness (vs an emphasis on disease and a mechanistic view > of the human body), from what I've read of his columns in magazines, > he's still on the low-fat, semi-vegetarian bandwagon. The best > evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. > > Jeanmarie Sharon, Lorenzo, Alobar, Judith, Jeanmarie, I tried sending this earlier from my e-mail and it came back. So I'm sending this from the internet directly (and I'm trying again from my e-mail so this response may come through twice, if it does just ignor the second one). Great responses, lots of info. Terrific! Thanks. Sharon, my friend is not wanting to believe this info, just wanting to check to get a second opinion from others that are more knowledgeable on the subject, from personal use, etc. Lorenzo... >Dr. Weil has pulled in his horns since becoming famous. >Since He is paid by the U, that gets paid by the big Pharms, He is under control of the Big Pharms... I understand the big Pharms, but what does U stand for? And again Lorenzo, what does this mean... > " Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals " ...........Wrong! >Coconut oil is liquid at 76 Degrees. Human body temperature is 98 Degrees. >Coconut oil has a different structure than the Vegetable oils. I don't understand the distinction between being liquid at 76 Degrees and the human body temperature. Could you help me here, please? >The best evidence is your own experience, in my opinion. Jeanmarie I couldn't agree more. In fact that's one of the very things I said to my friend, trust your own experience. Janice --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 > >Go see Dr. Weil, Rath Cathcart and others. > >Lorenzo, who is Rath Cathcart? Thanks, >Jeanmarie > Thanks very much. I'm seeing Cathcart, Rath Cathcart, and Dr. Rath. Are these all the same person? is Rath a nickname or something? thanks, I'm checking out Cathcart, M.D.'s site. Cheers, Jeanmarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 > " Saturated Fat " The horrible saturated fat that started all this was the >fat in Beef, Pork and Chicken. That fat is solid at fairly high cooking >temperatures. Coconut oil and Palm oil are not saturated by that measure. >They are similar to butter. Those same " scientists " made vegetable oil >solid at about the same temperature so that it could be sold as margarine >and were telling us to use it, however that is the chemically altered oil. >It is not natural and now is considered dangerous by some, includes me. > >In short, Coconut oil is not really a saturated fat. That makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 RE: Dr. Weil... Any Comments > > >Go see Dr. Weil, Rath Cathcart and others. > > > >Lorenzo, who is Rath Cathcart? Thanks, > >Jeanmarie > > > > Thanks very much. I'm seeing Cathcart, Rath Cathcart, and Dr. > Rath. Are these all the same person? is Rath a nickname or something? > thanks, I'm checking out Cathcart, M.D.'s site. > Cheers, > Jeanmarie Both Cathcart & Rath are big megadose Vitamin C advocates & researchers. Each has published papers in respectable journals. Rath is Linus ing's spiritual heir (if one could use those words). The ing institute betrayed the research of Linus ing & Rath continues & improves on ing's work. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 >Both Cathcart & Rath are big megadose Vitamin C advocates & >researchers. Each has published papers in respectable journals. >Rath is Linus ing's spiritual heir (if one could use those >words). The ing institute betrayed the research of Linus >ing & Rath continues & improves on ing's work. > >Alobar Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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