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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:25:39 -0400

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Cadets Get Big Anthrax Vaccine Dose

..c The Associated Press

FORT LEWIS, Wash. (AP) - Twenty-five ROTC cadets at an Army training camp

were administered nearly double the proper dose of the anthrax vaccine, Army

officials said Monday.

Madigan Army Medical Center officials blamed the higher doses on a

``communications error.'' The vaccines were given Friday during the 2000

Advanced Camp for the Reserve Officers' Training Corps at Fort .

There are few side effects associated with receiving a higher dose of the

vaccine, other than soreness in the arm where the shot was administered, the

medical center said in a statement. The cadets were given Tylenol and

Benadryl to ease any discomfort.

The cadets have since returned to training and have not complained of any

adverse symptoms, Madigan spokeswoman Sharon Ayala said.

Anthrax is a disease that typically afflicts animals, especially sheep and

cattle. Dry anthrax spores, which can be put into weapons, can be fatal to

humans when inhaled.

In 1998, Defense Secretary Cohen ordered all 2.4 million active duty

and reserve troops to get shots of the anthrax vaccine, starting with

soldiers most likely to encounter biological warfare overseas.

The vaccine has come under increasing scrutiny from lawmakers as soldiers

have expressed concerns. Complaints included fevers, muscle pain and

dizziness, and some members of the military have said morale was plummeting.

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I would like to know why ROTC cadets are even receiving the anthrax vaccine,

given the shortage of available vaccine. Are you now sending trainees to

Phase 1 areas, and if so, what is the logic of that decision?

I would also like an explanation of how these trainees could receive double

the dose, given your failsafe system of AVIP administration.

I will keep these soldiers in my prayers. I have serious concerns about

their health given the poor quality of the vaccine. Why else would FDA

decline to approve your latest batches?

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Blackburn

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The answer is just plain stupidity. I don't think the military really

cares about the shortage of vaccine they are currently suffering,

actually it works to their benefit. If the vaccine is in people, it

can't be tested for safety.

> I have some questions

>

>

> I would like to know why ROTC cadets are even receiving the anthrax

> vaccine,

> given the shortage of available vaccine. Are you now sending trainees

> to

> Phase 1 areas, and if so, what is the logic of that decision?

>

> I would also like an explanation of how these trainees could receive

> double

> the dose, given your failsafe system of AVIP administration.

>

> I will keep these soldiers in my prayers. I have serious concerns

> about

> their health given the poor quality of the vaccine. Why else would FDA

> decline to approve your latest batches?

>

>

> --

> Blackburn

>

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Hi thanks for all the infor. I have heard of a DR in land that is

supposed to have some new type of surgery. has anyone heard of this. I think

the DR name is Arnold dellon he is in Baltimore land.

2nd question has anyone had a spinal stimulator place in you back for pain

control.

Thanks .

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Dear ,

"Hi thanks for all the infor. I have heard of a DR in land that is supposed to have some new type of surgery. has anyone heard of this. I think the DR name is Arnold dellon he is in Baltimore land."

I havent looked but I am sure there will be info on the internet if you do a quick search for his name. Try www.medscape.com or www.northernlight.com 2nd question has anyone had a spinal stimulator place in you back for pain control.

Are you talking about the pump? There is someone here who has a pump in their spine for pain medications. I dont remember who I am sorry, I think it might be Marsha, but I could be way wrong ...

How are you doing ?

*HUGS*Love Aisha.

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Hi -

Welcome

to our "little family" here! I know I am a little late, but you

know... better late than never! If you didn't know by now,

I am pretty good at finding the answers to questions... gives my paramedic

brain something to do... so ask away!

2nd question has anyone had a spinal stimulator place

in you back for pain

control.

Implanted Electronic Impulse stimulator

http://www.circleoffriends.org/forums/general/0024.html

vagus nerve stimulator implanted in the chest

http://www.southbendtribune.com/98/mar/031398/local_ar/local_ar.htm

Spinal stimulator

http://dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu/forum_2/ThoracicOutletSynd.F/7.3.991.05PMUpdate-TVrepo.html

Removal/Revision of Implanted Spinal Neurostimulator

Electrodes/Pulse Generator

http://www.empiremedicare.com/benenews/BRF997/rri.htm

Are you talking about the pump? There is someone

here who has a pump in their spine for pain medications. I dont remember

who I am sorry, I think it might be Marsha, but I could be way wrong ...How

are you doing ? *HUGS*

Love Aisha.

OR are you talking about a "Intrathecal Pump"?

Here are some site about that, if it is what you are asking about.

SURGICALLY IMPLANTED DEVICE SHOWS PROMISE FOR CANCER

PATIENTS WITH SEVERE PAIN

http://gasnet.med.yale.edu/mirror/asa/Media/MediaKit/Rauck.html

Medical Breakthroughs **Pain Relief Pump**

http://nbcin.king5.com/news/medical/painreliefpump.php3

Intrathecal and Epidural Pumps for Pain Control

Healthcare Professional Version (technical stuff present)

http://adultpain.nursing.uiowa.edu/Routes/Impumtt.htm

Multiple Messages from People Using or considering pain medication by

implanted pumps, and other forms of pain control

http://dem0nmac.mgh.harvard.edu/forum_2/ReflexSymp.DystrophyF/10.31.995.48PMMorphinepum.html

Pain Management Options

http://www.arlingtonclinical.com/pain.html

If these

are not the things you were looking for... say the word, I'll try again!

Love

Always,

Anne

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Emla works well, but my pediatrician told me it was going off the market. He

wrote me a Rx for a 30g tube. The pharmacist told me he could mix it for me

if I becomes unavailable.

Virginia, are they considering a port-a-cath for your son so that they

don't have to hit a vein each time?

Pam

mom to 4

Rebekah, 3, CVID

Re: I have some questions

>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:20:41 -0600

>

>Virginia,

>

>It is so good that you have found out about the immune deficiency so early.

> My son was chronically ill for 17 months, but was not diagnosed until he

>was hospitalized with encephalitus. We could have easily lost him then or

>to another serious illness due to his increased susceptibility prior to

>starting the IVIG treatments, but there was a doctor there who was really

>on the ball (my son was in the 95th percentile for height and weight, so he

>didn't LOOK like a sickly kid - still doesn't for that matter) and ran some

>tests on his immune system. He was given his first dose of IVIG while in

>the hospital. It took several months of treatment before we licked the

>chronic respiratory illnesses, but we saw an improvement each month as the

>levels were built up in his body. Since your son has only had two or three

>treatments, there may well be continued improvement in him as he gets more

>treatments.

>

>I hope that your son's condition is due to an immature immune system that

>he will grow out of. Keep us posted and let us know if you need any

>suggestions or moral support.

>

>Also, has anyone told you about EMLA, the cream that numbs the site if the

>IV insertion??? It was several months before I heard about it, and then it

>was from another mom of a PID kid who happened to be the person doing a

>follow-up MRI on my son.

>

>Just know that all of your feelings and fears are normal, and there are

>many kind ladies on this list who are willing to give you lots of support

>as you are learning about your son's condition. We've been there.

>

>God bless,

>

>Wenoka (AMY - 8, awesome big sister / Sam - " 5 1/2 and 3/4's " , Hyper IgM,

>Sensory Integration Disorder, Seizure Disorder / Christi - almost two but

>acting that way for 2 months already, has both grandpas and both grandmas

>wrapped around her little finger)

>

>At 10:25 AM 10/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >Hello I am new to this but it sure seems to explain alot. My name is

> >Viriginia and I have 2 beautiful boys. My oldest is 3 and has been as

> >healthy as a horse. However my youngest one will be 1 on the 7 of

>November

> >and we have been at the doctors office about once a week. In August we

> >found out that he didn't have much of an immune system through research I

> >have finally figured out what is wrong. Our doctor has not told me

>anything

> >except that his IgA, IgG and his IgM was low. He has been on IV

> >gammaglobbin infusions since August and even though it has stopped the

>ear

> >infections he has had pnemonia again. Dr. Beasley treats each illness as

>it

> >comes along but is there anything we should be doing to keep him from

> >getting sick other than the infusions.

> >

> >

> >I would really appreciate any advice I could get.

> >

> >:)

> >

> >Viriginia

>

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Emla works well, but my pediatrician told me it was going off the market. He

wrote me a Rx for a 30g tube. The pharmacist told me he could mix it for me

if I becomes unavailable.

Virginia, are they considering a port-a-cath for your son so that they

don't have to hit a vein each time?

Pam

mom to 4

Rebekah, 3, CVID

Re: I have some questions

>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:20:41 -0600

>

>Virginia,

>

>It is so good that you have found out about the immune deficiency so early.

> My son was chronically ill for 17 months, but was not diagnosed until he

>was hospitalized with encephalitus. We could have easily lost him then or

>to another serious illness due to his increased susceptibility prior to

>starting the IVIG treatments, but there was a doctor there who was really

>on the ball (my son was in the 95th percentile for height and weight, so he

>didn't LOOK like a sickly kid - still doesn't for that matter) and ran some

>tests on his immune system. He was given his first dose of IVIG while in

>the hospital. It took several months of treatment before we licked the

>chronic respiratory illnesses, but we saw an improvement each month as the

>levels were built up in his body. Since your son has only had two or three

>treatments, there may well be continued improvement in him as he gets more

>treatments.

>

>I hope that your son's condition is due to an immature immune system that

>he will grow out of. Keep us posted and let us know if you need any

>suggestions or moral support.

>

>Also, has anyone told you about EMLA, the cream that numbs the site if the

>IV insertion??? It was several months before I heard about it, and then it

>was from another mom of a PID kid who happened to be the person doing a

>follow-up MRI on my son.

>

>Just know that all of your feelings and fears are normal, and there are

>many kind ladies on this list who are willing to give you lots of support

>as you are learning about your son's condition. We've been there.

>

>God bless,

>

>Wenoka (AMY - 8, awesome big sister / Sam - " 5 1/2 and 3/4's " , Hyper IgM,

>Sensory Integration Disorder, Seizure Disorder / Christi - almost two but

>acting that way for 2 months already, has both grandpas and both grandmas

>wrapped around her little finger)

>

>At 10:25 AM 10/29/2002 -0600, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >Hello I am new to this but it sure seems to explain alot. My name is

> >Viriginia and I have 2 beautiful boys. My oldest is 3 and has been as

> >healthy as a horse. However my youngest one will be 1 on the 7 of

>November

> >and we have been at the doctors office about once a week. In August we

> >found out that he didn't have much of an immune system through research I

> >have finally figured out what is wrong. Our doctor has not told me

>anything

> >except that his IgA, IgG and his IgM was low. He has been on IV

> >gammaglobbin infusions since August and even though it has stopped the

>ear

> >infections he has had pnemonia again. Dr. Beasley treats each illness as

>it

> >comes along but is there anything we should be doing to keep him from

> >getting sick other than the infusions.

> >

> >

> >I would really appreciate any advice I could get.

> >

> >:)

> >

> >Viriginia

>

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Just do the whole workout no matter how long it takes. It usually

takes me about an hour to go from start to finish on UB days but

about 45 on lower body days. Take your minute between sets and if

you need to do the reps slower to keep or learn good form then so be

it. Do it. Don't sacrifice your body with an injury just to speed

up and get it done in a set time frame.

debra

> I have been waiting to see if anyone has had this problem or if I

am just

> thinking wrong.

>

> When I do the UBWO it says you are suppose to go no more than 46

minutes. You

> are suppose to wait 1 minute between this and that. Well doing all

this I

> never have time to get through everything. If I start with the end

I never

> get to the chest or if I start with the chest I never get to the

triceps. Do

> I need to speed up or what? I have been doing the things I miss on

aerobic

> day just to make sure I work those areas I missed. The LBWO is no

problem as

> there are less things to do. Anyone have some answers to help me?

Thanks for

> everything.

>

> Pat

>

>

>

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In the beginning the same thing was happening to me. I was working

out too hard and didn't know it - I was choosing 2 exercises for each

muscle group and then doing sets of 12,10,8,6,12,12 for each of

them! Then someone told me I was supposed to just do the second

exercise for the last set of 12! Sometimes when I am in a hurry

during the minute rests I do a different exercise since its a

different muscle. I don't know if that's a good idea or not but I

have to fit my workout into my lunch hour.

> I have been waiting to see if anyone has had this problem or if I

am just

> thinking wrong.

>

> When I do the UBWO it says you are suppose to go no more than 46

minutes. You

> are suppose to wait 1 minute between this and that. Well doing all

this I

> never have time to get through everything. If I start with the end

I never

> get to the chest or if I start with the chest I never get to the

triceps. Do

> I need to speed up or what? I have been doing the things I miss on

aerobic

> day just to make sure I work those areas I missed. The LBWO is no

problem as

> there are less things to do. Anyone have some answers to help me?

Thanks for

> everything.

>

> Pat

>

>

>

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Do the entire workout no matter how long it takes. Most people find that upper

body takes closer to an hour.

I Have Some QUESTIONS

I have been waiting to see if anyone has had this problem or if I am just

thinking wrong.

When I do the UBWO it says you are suppose to go no more than 46 minutes. You

are suppose to wait 1 minute between this and that. Well doing all this I

never have time to get through everything. If I start with the end I never

get to the chest or if I start with the chest I never get to the triceps. Do

I need to speed up or what? I have been doing the things I miss on aerobic

day just to make sure I work those areas I missed. The LBWO is no problem as

there are less things to do. Anyone have some answers to help me? Thanks for

everything.

Pat

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Hello all! I've sure been enjoying the abundance of information

coming from this group. Many/most/all of you seem so informed. This

is my first attempt at posting, so if I could ask some questions. Am

I correct in assuming that the posts here are more or less sharing

individual opinions? Do the moderators have special knowlege or training?

I feel pretty confident that CO is pretty close to a miracle food. I

found out about coconut oil first, from researching low carb eating.

I've been trying to eliminate grains and sugar from my diet, because

of a strong history of diabetes running in my family and I have many

characteristics of the " carbohydrate addict " as well as being

overweight. I wish I would have tried coconut oil before I eliminated

the grains but I didn't. What is the likelihood that using coconut

oil and coconut products will improve my carbohydrate metabolism

sufficiently that I could add a starchy carb or two into my day? I'm

a little concerned that the 'addict' in me is talking and I really

shouldn't risk it, but I would welcome to have that little extra

variety that a slice of bread brings.

What exactly is happening when one is experiencing " detox effects?

from ingesting coconut products?

Another question is about coconut flour...Is this product merely very

finely grated coconut? Is it made with coconut meat that has already

had its fat removed? I'd like to start buying some of the cookbooks

with coconut recipes...which one do you recommend I start with?

What do folks do with the coconut water? How long can it be stored in

the fridge?

When I buy a fresh coconut from the grocery store, is it fresh as long

as there is water in it and the meat is white? (I've read that there

is often old coconuts being sold at the grocery store). Coconut

products are expensive and they are actually a processed food, and it

seems it might be better to just munch on coconuts and use the

processed products just occassionally.

I haven't checked out all of the files yet, but is there one with a

glossary of the different coconut products available?

Just some thoughts, thanks in advance for any input!

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