Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi Del, Your questions are answered here: http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/what_is_virgin_coconut_oil.htm Tropical Traditions oil is made the traditional way, and its shelf life is beyond two years. And in spite of the propaganada coming from Quality First, it is the most popular oil in the US. QFI would not even be second - Spectrum would. - > I know I must have read somewhere in all those excellent posts > entitled " First came to learn about Coconut oil " , but what exactly is > the process for traditional oil and how does in differ from the VCO > like Quality First and WFN india oil? Which CO on the market follow > the closest to the traditional way of processing? > > Thanks, > Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Glad to see TT is finally operating openly...guess you decided you couldn't hide it from the common people like you thought? Del, Wilderness Family Naturals also has a virgin Philipine oil processsed the traditional way. It does not have that catch in the throat, and as you know I prefer WFN for many reasons. One especially being the exceptional quality of service I received. TT may be the top seller, but they are most definetly not number one when it comes to taste, service and price! So as far as I am concerned that counts them out for me...if you can't meet even one of those three criteria it is amazing to me that they do as well as they do. Well all, I will be gone till Monday to Colorado (getting to the cool! but look forward to reading all of your messages then. Ya'll have a great week and weekend, Caitlin Lorraine > Hi Del, > Tropical Traditions oil is made the traditional way, and its shelf > life is > beyond two years. And in spite of the propaganada coming from > Quality First, > it is the most popular oil in the US. QFI would not even be second - > Spectrum would. > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi , I do agree--they do have knowledge. And as I have told them before, it is not the knowledge I am objected to, in fact I welcome that. It is the covert marketing, trying to hide their idenity, only care about making a buck attitude that I did not appreciate. The comments made to Bruce, and several other posts made by Jud7y77 username from Tropcial Traditions rubbed me the wrong way. And this is not the only place they have tried this, but have done it on many occasions at another Coconut forum that I love--- so that is where I am coming from. I welcome the openess of him stating who he is, that he is TT, that does not bother me. Bring on the KNOWLEDGE I say!! And as this is an open forum for opinions, I am sure I will always strongly be stating mine--especially my preference for WFN because of the momentous occasions at which I have had problems with TT and wonderful experiences I have had from WFN thus far. Looking on my other message, it came across more catty than I had intended and I do apoligize for that. I let my feathers get a little too ruffled, I must take a lighter air and tone next time... I will be leaving in another couple hours, so if I don't catch you again, have a good weekend all. Caitlin Lorraine wrote: Just for the record Tropical Traditions and their representatives are welcome here to answer questions and promote and defend their positions just like any other vendor of coconut/health products.We Are trying to maintain this site as a free exchange of ideas. We also try to respect each others opinions. Tropical Traditions people have much knowledge to share that this group can benefit from. So Welcome ! IN NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Del, Traditionally processed oil is as follows: (1) Get the freshest coconut preferably a year old nut and no more than a day old from the tree. (2) Grate the coconut meat -- there is a manual and mechanical machine to do this. (3) In the manual by hand method: add a little water to the grated meat and squeeze with all your might the grated coconut meat to extract the coconut milk. There is a manual machine that does this with no water necessary and you get pure coconut milk and more too than the by-hand method. (3) Put the coconut milk in a big wide-mouthed glass jar and let stand 8 to 12 hours. After which the water content of the milk would settle at the bottom and a thick curd would be on top. At this point there would already be some oil under the top layer of the curd. You may gather it and heat it or proceed as shown below to get maximum oil. I am not sure though if in other countries you will get oil under the curd depending probably on your outside temperature. Ours is around 85-90 deg F on normal days and 95 during summers. Now here the processing varies " a) Gather the curd without taking any water from below it and refrigerate overnight. The curd will harden, then you leave out on top of your counter for another 24 hours. Then you will see oil floating on top. Here you gather the oil. Apply very very low heat until the sour smell disappears. The sour smell is from the fermentation water. Here is the technique to get rid of the odor and taste: Heat no more than 120 deg F for 8 hours each day, mostly for 3 days or, more sometimes. In the intervals, you filter the oil and put it in a freshly cleaned glass jar, repeat filtering three times changing filters and clean jars each time. Leave the oil uncovered/you may put very thin cheese cloth on top before reheating the next day (to let the oil expel its odor) . Keep repeating filtering and heating until odor is gone. Normally when there is no more odor the taste is very much diminished too. Store finished oil in tightly sealed bottles/jars. This is what we do in producing the oil we consume. Takes a long time to make. But never does the oil get rancid or stale and its taste never changes. And of course now you know why traditionally made virgin coconut oil is very expensive. It is so labor intensive. Others even use special firewood for better result and their stove is dug under the ground. Another method is: 2) Gather the curd and put in a double boiler and apply low heat no more than 120 deg F until all odor is out. You may want to filter it before storing in tightly covered jars. Another method is: 3) Gather the curd and put in a pan and cook in low heat. This method makes the oil smell and really have strong coconut flavor. This i do not recommend. Store finished oil in tightly covered glass bottle. Ok you guys can make your own coconut oil now. Plant your trees first hahaha :-) traditional oil I know I must have read somewhere in all those excellent posts entitled " First came to learn about Coconut oil " , but what exactly is the process for traditional oil and how does in differ from the VCO like Quality First and WFN india oil? Which CO on the market follow the closest to the traditional way of processing? Thanks, Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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