Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Hi folks I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in my coffee, I do not notice this at all. The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? Thanks for any thoughts you may have Margie --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 > > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not.> Hi Majorie When the acid catches the throat it is rancid. I found even some expensive new jars of vco in plastic tubs caught my throat but i did not throw them out not at that price. I now buy it in glass jars and find i don't get this problem. That is another reason why i don't like buying it in bulk in large containers. If it's rancid it's money down the drain. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 The normal shelf life of VCO is 3-6 years Unrefrigerated. Please give us the link where you read different. Im suspecting they were referring to an RBD oil and not our VCO, would like to read it for myself. Thanks zoe Saturday, December 9, 2006, 4:35:14 AM, you wrote: > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered > by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just > reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good > for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. > > Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not > notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it > from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've > had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a > spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes > away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in > my coffee, I do not notice this at all. > > The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is > it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no > physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it > creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if > VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the > throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very > sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also > another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one > quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? > > Thanks for any thoughts you may have > Margie > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I buy from Wilderness Family Naturals. I started out buying gallon tubs, then moved up to 5 gallon pail. I transfer the newly opened 5 gallons of oil to the 1 gallon tubs which I had saved for that purpose. I then transfer a quart of oil at a time to smaller plastic jars which I use daily. The coconut oil is never refrigerated, except if I have used oil I use for frying chicken wings. A five gallon batch of oil will last me a year or so. So the advice to use coconut oil within 2 months and store in the refrigerator would sure make me NOT use that brand of oil at all. I have never had WFN oil cause a catch in the throat. I live in New Orleans which is very humid. The oil does not absorb moisture from the air. When I started using coconut oil, I began with another brand. That caused catch in the throat. I was assured by the manufacturer that this was " natural " and not a cause for concern. Needless to say, I won't buy from that company any more. Alobar On 12/9/06, Marjorie Tietjen <daystar1952@...> wrote: > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. > > Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in my coffee, I do not notice this at all. > > The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? > > Thanks for any thoughts you may have > Margie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 My VCO lasts for about a year also. I buy the centrifuged coconut oil from Wilderness Family Naturals in 5 gallon pails as well.I think the centrifuging process extracts more of the moisture from the coconut oil. It is the moisture , the leftover product of the manufacturing process that shortens the shelf life of the VCO.They have an excellent website with information about the different processes. http://wildernessfamilynaturals.com/ IN NC zoe w <herebedragons@...> wrote: The normal shelf life of VCO is 3-6 years Unrefrigerated. Please give us the link where you read different. Im suspecting they were referring to an RBD oil and not our VCO, would like to read it for myself. Thanks zoe Saturday, December 9, 2006, 4:35:14 AM, you wrote: > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered > by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just > reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good > for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. > > Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not > notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it > from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've > had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a > spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes > away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in > my coffee, I do not notice this at all. > > The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is > it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no > physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it > creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if > VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the > throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very > sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also > another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one > quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? > > Thanks for any thoughts you may have > Margie > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Zoe...this is where I found the info http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:JIbJy0pfryEJ:www.powerpure.ch/vcovirgincocon\ utoil.php+Virgin+coconut+oil+rancid+2+months & hl=en & gl=us & ct=clnk & cd=6 Go about three quarters of the way down the page Margie zoe w <herebedragons@...> wrote: The normal shelf life of VCO is 3-6 years Unrefrigerated. Please give us the link where you read different. Im suspecting they were referring to an RBD oil and not our VCO, would like to read it for myself. Thanks zoe Saturday, December 9, 2006, 4:35:14 AM, you wrote: > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered > by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just > reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good > for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. > > Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not > notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it > from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've > had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a > spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes > away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in > my coffee, I do not notice this at all. > > The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is > it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no > physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it > creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if > VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the > throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very > sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also > another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one > quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? > > Thanks for any thoughts you may have > Margie > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Thankyou everyone for all the responses! I was just reading somewhere about dowsing certain products. Does anyone her believe in that process? I rigged up a pendulum dowser a while back and hadn't used it in a while. When I just read about it again I decided to go try it on the VCO and my natural peanut butter that seemd to smell rancid to me. Can peanut butter go rancid? Anyway....I asked whether the VCO was rancid and it said no. I asked if it was good for me and it stopped in dead stream...from going from side to side (no) to making a circle (yes). I swear I am not moving it but I'm not sure if I really believe in or trust this method. I asked about the peanut butter and it said it was rancid. So, I'm not sure if I am getting the results I am because dowsing is accurate or whether it's moving in concert with what I believe or want to hear. After talking about the moonstones, I figured this may not be too far out. :-) Margie Wilkins <montemomma2002@...> wrote: My VCO lasts for about a year also. I buy the centrifuged coconut oil from Wilderness Family Naturals in 5 gallon pails as well.I think the centrifuging process extracts more of the moisture from the coconut oil. It is the moisture , the leftover product of the manufacturing process that shortens the shelf life of the VCO.They have an excellent website with information about the different processes. http://wildernessfamilynaturals.com/ IN NC zoe w <herebedragons@...> wrote: The normal shelf life of VCO is 3-6 years Unrefrigerated. Please give us the link where you read different. Im suspecting they were referring to an RBD oil and not our VCO, would like to read it for myself. Thanks zoe Saturday, December 9, 2006, 4:35:14 AM, you wrote: > Hi folks > I know we have talked about this before but I am still bothered > by the uncertainty of whether my VCO is rancid or not. I was just > reading one website which said that unopened the VCO would stay good > for a year but once opened it should be stored in the refridgerator and used within 2 months. > > Now, when I was fist using this gallon batch of VCO....I did not > notice a catch in my throat or slightly sore throat after eating it > from the spoon....at least I don't remember it. Now, however, (I've > had the oil for maybe 3 months) and when I take it alone in a > spoon...a bit later the throat is all weird. Then the feeling goes > away. However, when I eat it with bread, cook with it or use it in > my coffee, I do not notice this at all. > > The main point is that the oil smells fine and it looks fine. Is > it being said that it can still be rancid even if there are no > physical signs of it? Dr. Fife says when you eat the oil and it > creates that catch in your throat, not to eat it. I'm wondering if > VCO has been chemcially tested when it has caused this catch in the > throat, in order to determine if it really was rancid. I'd be very > sad to have to throw out the rest of the gallon...and...I have also > another gallon waiting in the wings. Maybe it's better to buy one > quart jar at a time at the healthfood store? > > Thanks for any thoughts you may have > Margie > > --------------------------------- > Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Can peanut butter go rancid? ######## definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 i also buy 5 gal buckets, altho we go thru that in less than a year as we have many mouths. i never have refrigerated oil, either. here is another source for fresh vco that i can attest to. I think they are a bit cheaper than TT or Wilderness families. I have bought from all three sources and this source is compatible in quality, altho perhaps a tiny bit " drier " than TT vco(if that makes any sense): www.laureece.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi Lori, I've attached an excellent guide regarding fats and oils. Vegetable and canola oil are likely already oxidized when you buy them just because of the processing they go through. Olive oil will oxidize when heated, so should only be used in cold applications such as making salad dressings. Coconut oil remains stable because it is a saturated fat (so it has to do with the chemical structure of the fat). http://www.balancedbites.com/PDFs/BalancedBites_FatsAndOils.pdf Hope this helps, Renae On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:38 AM, jd2mum <jd2mum@...> wrote: > ** > > > I was reading an article (from Dr. Mercola - who I know some people don't > respect) about certain oils going rancid when being heated. The article > failed to explain at what temperature the oil becomes rancid (or doesn't it > matter?)...I don't buy vegetable/canola oil anymore but what about Olive > Oil? > > Is the word rancid just a buzz word here? Nobody likes to hear it. I've > heard that flax seeds baked in something will go rancid but yet still see > people do it because they aren't aware this happens. > > Here is the first paragraph of the article: > Oxidized cholesterol is introduced into your system every time you eat > something cooked in vegetable oil. As soon as the oil is heated and mixes > with oxygen, it goes rancid. Rancid oil is oxidized oil, and should not be > consumed. This is why I constantly recommend avoiding all vegetable cooking > oils, such as canola-, corn-, or soy oil, and replacing them with organic > coconut oil, which remains stable and does not oxidize at higher > temperatures. > > And how is it that coconut oil remains stable? What about lard, at what > point will that go rancid? > > Does anyone have better insight on how to cook/bake without causing our > food to go rancid (other than eating everything raw)? > > Lori > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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