Guest guest Posted September 15, 2000 Report Share Posted September 15, 2000 Dear Shan: Please stay on the list as there are a lot of great people on here. To the ones debating the MTV thing if you already put in your two cents then please don't need to respond back and forth on the list, if you feel the urge then respond to the person on " their " point of view please do so privately. Most don't respond when there are debates on certain topics such as the MTV thing because others will start debating them back. You are correct in that if someone doesn't agree with me or my choices there are a " few " that are going to judge me. I really don't care anymore because there are many more that agree, offer support and suggestions. I am an achon Mom with two achon children Josh 13 and Kait 9. There are a lot of wonderful people on this list and most don't dialogue with subjective views because a few people had fun doing an MTV show dancing and making money etc. I wish I could have done it -- my son Josh wanted to do it but that is not going to prevent him from pursuing his career. I work as a TV production coordinator and I use to be a mortgage loan underwriter. I sometimes take extra acting jobs for the money. I dressed up as a munchkin and sang Happy Birthday to Gloria Estefan and you should have seen what happened then on the list. Again I don't care. I had fun my kids had fun we made money and we met Gloria who was wonderful and didn't act condescding at all. What about the LP's that work at Disney, Universal, Radio City etc and dress up in costume and you know they are LP's dancing around et al. IT'S MY/THEIR CHOICE. Life is too short to be judging other people. If you don't like it -- don't do it -- but please let's not judge among ourselves. Other races/sexual orientation/cultures/ask us not to generalize about them, we can do the same thing amongst ourselves and others. I have never applied for a job and someone said " Boy you dwarves are something else wrestling and acting like munchkins- I am not going to hire you because all you dwarves are circus people and can't be taken seriously. " As someone said before the media was more demeaning to us in the past. Now we are out in the open -- doing what we want -- having fun (hopefully). Someone even had the nerve to sent a letter to Gloria's manager saying how dare they do such a thing. It was a blast and not once did I feel demeaned less than etc. So Shan please stay and keep coming with your questions, opinions, concerns etc. The views expressed here are my own. - Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hi D.L. I have been gone for a few days but I appreciate your wanting me to stay. I doubt that is the view of the rest of people on this site. I only came onto this site to learn more about the treatment of aids, so that I could help my brother inlaw, Steve. I have accomplised that and spoke with him last nite and told him about some of you really believing that the drugs just make you more sick. He did already get off of some, but still taking anti viral, I will keep working on him, and at the same time supporting his body with glyconutrinets, probiotics, etc., I think the basic problem I can see from where I stand is that you feel you must get everyone to accept your lifestyle. I can understand wanting acceptance, I want it too. But being a christian, trust me, we don't get accepted much these days either. But I don't go around and try to get people to accept my lifestyle as a christian. Now I don't want to be ostricized either and if these things happen to you it is wrong. From the expereince I have with Steve, the lady who lived with me and another friend I have just met who are all homosexuals, is that they keep at arms distance. They won't let me in to love them. They stay to themselves even though people reach out. Can someone please comment on this. With Steve, he never has been rejected from his family ever. And yet he put himself outside the family and stayed away. NOw only when he almost died as he allowed everyone to embrace him. It has really been wonderful for my husband because he loves his brother so much. FIrst and formost we want healing for everyone, aids people and everyone else who is hurting. Does this mean I have to say your lifestyle is right in my eyes? I believe Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God and thru him is the only way to salvation, are you willing to say to me that you accept that? IF not I don't have a problem, I am sad for you but don't look down on you or in anyway judge you. I think the anger that you probably get from some groups of people is because you want others to say what you are doing is o.k., and this just will never happen with everyone, just like I will never have full acceptance of my beliefs either. I don't understand how someone can get upset with me for not accepting the homosexual lifestyle, when the homosexual lifestyle goes against my belief and that belief is a lifestyle that they do not accept. We are in the same boat don't you think. We are all humans and can like and hate each other just based on that fact and who we are as a human being, not what lifestyle you live. If you are an axe murderer, I probably don't want to hang out with you though. SO for those of you still speaking to me, it would be interesting to here your thoughts. ANd then I have some exciting news to share in my next post. D.L. Bullock wrote: > Please don't leave the list, your ideas are appreciated, > > I too am a Christian and am very active in my Episcopal church. We have > about 40% of the membership who are GLBT and 100% of the membership who are > supportive of that group. If GLBT people were to be removed from my church > there would be a real problem even having a service. It would include half > the clergy as well as most of the ushers, acolytes, lay ministers, chalice > bearers--even the office staff. If we ever said " love the sinner hate the > sin " in that place the gays would leave but most or all of the straights > would leave as well. " For all have sinned and fallen short " It did not > mention sexual preference. > > The diocese has what is called Oasis Missouri which is a group of parishes > who have taken special training to openly welcome GLBT people into their > congregation. All Episcopal churches are welcoming but some are more > inclusive than others. > > Our Bishop even okayed the first same sex union held in the Cathedral a > couple of years ago. Their commitment was recorded in the book that has > recorded weddings since the 1850's when the church started building the > present Cathedral building. Perhaps this is revolutionary but it goes with > the history of this church. It is the church where Luther King ended > his marches in the 60's with a rousing sermon. This church has always been > a rabble-rouser when it comes to peace and justice for all God's children. > > There is no judgment of sin there. What is sin and whether you have sinned > is between you and your God. Not anyone else's business. > > This environment feels like home to me and the rest of the congregation > > D.L. Bullock > > > > Re: Re: conspiracy buffs > > > > > > D.L. Bullock wrote: > > > > I agree with most of what you said, however, it sounded to me like > you > > consider gay men and women to be " against nature " While this is the view > of > > the antiquated churchmen, it is not the view of all churchmen nor of much > of > > this group. Episcopal churches and others respect GLBT people and > welcome > > them to their worship service. > > I am a christian, and would welcome anyone in with open arms. I had a > lesbian living withus for 2 years just recently. I did not push my view > on her and she did not push her view on me. We were good friends. > > > > If you are straight then sex with your own sex is against your > nature. If > > you are gay or lesbian and you go to bed with the opposite sex THAT would > be > > against your nature. Let us not make judgements. > > I try no to judge people, but when you state your opinion, and it is not > the same as others, it will appear to be judgemental, and I am not > judging you. I would hug and love everyone on this site, we are all > creation of I believe God, you may believe otherwise, but it does not > matter in how I would treat you. > AIDS is not God's revenge > > for some perceived sin. > > God does not seek revenge, on gays or anybody else. He even loved Sadamm > Husaiin (sp?)and he was a murderous creep. > > > Gay is not against God or nature. God made some > > people gay just as much as he made some blue eyed or black skinned. > > > > People with AIDS do not need judgment > > Neither do Christians and yet we get judged all the time because we are > all put into a box and labeled. We are individuals too, not all > christians are alike, and just because someone uses that name does not > mean they even know what it means. So I am sure people do the same for > homosexuals, this is life. I also train horses, I get judged all the > time for my training style, but people are entitled to their opinions. > especially with a new pope in place > > that will do plenty of that for you and heap even more scorn in the years > to > > come as well as Jerry Fowlsmell and Pat Rob-em-some on TV telling people > to > > hate, hate, hate. Has anyone seen the lunatic Ron Parsley selling books > in > > his latest infomercial fund raiser as he bashes Gay and Lesbian people to > > line his pockets? I was appalled. > > I have heard of him, he is pretty radical, and again not all christians > should be judged by the ones who jump in the public eye all the time. > And the same for me, I have to realize the some gay and lesbian people > are idiots, but so are alot of people and that does not mean anyting > about the lifesytle in general. I should have kept my thought to myself, > and I am sorry if I have offended you or anyone else. I will bow out > gracefully, > > > > D.L. Bullock > > > > > > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Of course your gay friends keep you at arm's length. If I met you I probably would too. You, as a Christian, have a problem with accepting me just the way God made me---Gay. Gay people have been beaten down verbally, physically and at one time we were burned at the stake because God made us Gay. Do evangelical Christians think God makes mistakes? I don't. Most GLBT people do not go to church. Not because they do not believe in God but because we have been mentioned in too many sermons where they list the most horrible of sinners. You know the drill, the preacher lists thieves, murderers, child molesters, prostitutes and ....homosexuals. Many of us have been asked or instructed to leave the church and never come back. Many of us did not have to have someone tell us that. Once we realized that this is the way God made us and those people at that church think I am as bad as a ax murderer, why would I ever go back there. Why would God make us gay and then tell us that we are evil to be the way He made us. No that is something that men came up with. The old testament law has no power over Christians. In the new testament however, you will notice that Jesus said not a single word about Gay. Since He spoke about everything of any importance in our lives, Gay must not be very important according to Him. Your friends don't want to let you in to love them because when they have done that in the past, that kind of " love " put them in mental hospitals, in groups of church people spending hours trying to cast out the demons, and then there are the well meaning family members who make ultimatums " My way or the highway " . This from the people who love you? Quite frankly they are scared to death of your kind of love. Perhaps your version would not be like that but we have all been burned and we are shy around potential straight abusers. Many of us do not have straight friends anymore. Have no desire to have straight friends at all. Too much chance of being beaten up if not physically certainly verbally. Some, perhaps even with well meaning intentions. Well God made us gay and God makes no mistakes. I suggest you read the book " Holy Homosexuals " by Rev. Piazza about $14.00. It is for sale in my church bookstore. My church has made great strides with me coming to appreciate straight people. I am no longer afraid of them. I have hundreds of them at my Episcopal church who would support me. In fact, they would give me the shirt off their backs if I needed it. I consider them true Christians. I feel unaccepted as a Christian sometimes myself. I expect to be unaccepted as gay ALL the time as well. As a Gay Christian I get strange vibes all different sides. God has sent you these good gay friends for a purpose. He is not through with you yet. I think you should stop listening to your Bible beating preachers and instead listen to that voice inside. That is the Holy Spirit. See what it has to say about good people who you want to love. I think you don't have to look at your friends as gay. If you could play like you don't know their sexual preference, and see that God loves them and wants you to love them exactly the way HE made them because He did that for a purpose. You don't have to know why. Surely you understand how your previous hurtful words were taken as judgment of us all. You can learn non judgmental love but I am not sure you know enough about it just yet. DLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Some Thoughts: Love is not a 'quality' of God but is God's very essence. God does not exhibit favouritism or exclusivity. The love of God is absolute and unconditional. Accept that the concept of 'the fear of God' is ignorance. God is peace and love and nothing else. Realise that the depiction of God as a 'judge' is a delusion of the ego that arises as a projection of guilt from the punishment of childhood. Realise that God is not a parent. Christ's teaching was essentially and simply to avoid the negativity, and the goal of his teaching was for his followers to reach Unconditional Love. Spiritual development is not an accomplishment but a way of life. The power to decline the ego's programs increases exponentially as one progresses spiritually. When we see how people are dominated by the ego's programs, we realise that, without awareness or insight, they are relatively unable to help themselves. When we see this simple fact, forgiveness and compassion replace anger, fear, hatred, or condemnation. Avoid and dissociate from nonintegrity and negativity ('evil') rather than confront it. Jealousy, retaliation, vengeance, partiality, etc., are all attributes of the ego and not of God. The human mind is incapable of discerning truth from falsehood. Thus, all pathways to God renounce falsity and are devoted to that which radiates love, peace, holiness, compassion, forgiveness, mercy, and charity. Spiritual truth is benevolent and grants freedom to everyone. The ego likes to pretend that evil exists 'out there' and seduces the hapless, innocent ego into inadvertently falling into the trap of seduction. The real temper is the ego's desire for gain, whether that be sensation, excitement, advantage, prestige, or the pleasure of controlling others. To realise the truth of the above releases one from the bondage of guilt and hate that ensues from the classic duality of good versus evil which has prevailed since the allegory of Adam and Eve. The presumed devil represents the ego's own proclivities and repressed desires. Man is therefore the victim of the inability to tell truth from falsehood as well as the seductions of the ego. Thus, it becomes clear that as consciousness evolves, it no longer needs judgmentalism or the polarities of good / bad as a guide to behaviour. The choice of that which is integrous and loving occurs spontaneously because it is the natural expression of an evolved comprehension of life. It might be said that one's spiritual buoyancy goes up with the choice of forgiveness and down with hatred. Happily, a loving thought is enormously more powerful than a negative one. Thus, the human world represents a purgatorial-like range of opportunities and choices, from the most grim to the exalted, from criminality to nobility, from fear to courage, from despair to hope, and from greed to charity. Thus if the purpose of the human experience is to evolve, then this world is perfect just as it is. By choice, one determines one's own fate. There are no arbitrary forces to be reckoned with. Love chooses love and goes to love. The mechanism of forgiveness affords that very forgiveness. The entire universe is encompassed by compassion, which is available to all. Prayer is effective. God does not 'decide' in some arbitrary manner. The innate qualities of Divinity are mercy and compassion. There are no favours to be sought. It is only necessary to accept that which already exists as a given. Grace can only be accepted or denied. An individual soul may deny acceptance because it does not feel it deserves it, but " Judge not,' sayeth the Lord " . Otherwise, one would be at the mercy of the positionalities of the ego. One's ultimate fate is the automatic and impersonal consequence of the energy patterns which have been set up in the aura in the spirit body, i.e., one's fate after physical death is merely the inevitable consequence of one's own choice and not a reward or a punishment meted out arbitrarily by some external figure, energy, or power. On as much as one's spiritual destiny is sealed and determined by one's own hand and its actions, each person, with absolute fairness, determines their own fate. Thus, God's justice is indeed perfectly self-fulfilling. Mankind then needs to take responsibility for its own fate and stop blaming God. In reality, the love of God, like the sun, shines equally on all. There are two ways to travel - either a direct route to one's destination, or the leisurely trip that investigates the countryside and visits all the tourist attractions. Most spiritual seekers are on the leisurely path, even if they don't realise it. This, however, is undoubtedly the best way for many people. It is neither wrong nor a waste of time but merely the path that works best for them. In reality, time is merely an illusion and an appearance. No 'time' is really wasted once one has chosen the spiritual goal. Actually, it makes no difference in the end whether enlightenment takes a thousand lifetimes or one. In the end, it is all the same. May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. Re: Re: conspiracy buffs > > > > > > D.L. Bullock wrote: > > > > I agree with most of what you said, however, it sounded to me > like you > consider gay men and women to be " against nature " While > this is the view of > the antiquated churchmen, it is not the view of > all churchmen nor of much of > this group. Episcopal churches and > others respect GLBT people and welcome > them to their worship > service. > > I am a christian, and would welcome anyone in with open arms. I had a > lesbian living withus for 2 years just recently. I did not push my > view on her and she did not push her view on me. We were good friends. > > > > If you are straight then sex with your own sex is against your > nature. If > you are gay or lesbian and you go to bed with the > opposite sex THAT would be > against your nature. Let us not make > judgements. > > I try no to judge people, but when you state your opinion, and it is > not the same as others, it will appear to be judgemental, and I am not > judging you. I would hug and love everyone on this site, we are all > creation of I believe God, you may believe otherwise, but it does not > matter in how I would treat you. > AIDS is not God's revenge > > for some perceived sin. > > God does not seek revenge, on gays or anybody else. He even loved > Sadamm Husaiin (sp?)and he was a murderous creep. > > > Gay is not against God or nature. God made some > people gay just > as much as he made some blue eyed or black skinned. > > > > People with AIDS do not need judgment > > Neither do Christians and yet we get judged all the time because we > are all put into a box and labeled. We are individuals too, not all > christians are alike, and just because someone uses that name does not > mean they even know what it means. So I am sure people do the same for > homosexuals, this is life. I also train horses, I get judged all the > time for my training style, but people are entitled to their opinions. > especially with a new pope in place > > that will do plenty of that for you and heap even more scorn in the > years to > come as well as Jerry Fowlsmell and Pat Rob-em-some on TV > telling people to > hate, hate, hate. Has anyone seen the lunatic > Ron Parsley selling books in > his latest infomercial fund raiser as > he bashes Gay and Lesbian people to > line his pockets? I was > appalled. > > I have heard of him, he is pretty radical, and again not all > christians should be judged by the ones who jump in the public eye all the time. > And the same for me, I have to realize the some gay and lesbian people > are idiots, but so are alot of people and that does not mean anyting > about the lifesytle in general. I should have kept my thought to > myself, and I am sorry if I have offended you or anyone else. I will > bow out gracefully, > > D.L. Bullock > > > > > Read > AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 D.L. Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? On another note that maybe you can appreciate. Right now in S.F. there are 70 people who are doing a double blind controlled study using the Glyconutrients. They all have full blown aids. It will be a 6 month study and is b eing funded by Mannarelief, a christian non profit org. dedicated to helping aids. They have already reached out to Africa and have helped many orphans in that country get better with the Glyconutrients. The goal of Mannatech is to get so big so that we can also reach the mothers so there does not have to be any more orphans. Mannatech is also involved in the GLobal Aids Awareness program that is traveling around in several continents over the next 3 years to educate people about aids. Mannatech had to raise 500K just to be involved. SO even though you think Christian have it out for gays, both Mannatech and Mannarelief are Chritian owned and run companies, so not all Chritians are against gays. This Awareness program is going to have a huge impact on AIds. Take care, D.L. Bullock wrote: > Of course your gay friends keep you at arm's length. If I met you I > probably would too. You, as a Christian, have a problem with accepting me > just the way God made me---Gay. Gay people have been beaten down verbally, > physically and at one time we were burned at the stake because God made us > Gay. Do evangelical Christians think God makes mistakes? I don't. > > Most GLBT people do not go to church. Not because they do not believe in > God but because we have been mentioned in too many sermons where they list > the most horrible of sinners. You know the drill, the preacher lists > thieves, murderers, child molesters, prostitutes and ....homosexuals. Many > of us have been asked or instructed to leave the church and never come back. > Many of us did not have to have someone tell us that. Once we realized that > this is the way God made us and those people at that church think I am as > bad as a ax murderer, why would I ever go back there. Why would God make us > gay and then tell us that we are evil to be the way He made us. No that is > something that men came up with. The old testament law has no power over > Christians. In the new testament however, you will notice that Jesus said > not a single word about Gay. Since He spoke about everything of any > importance in our lives, Gay must not be very important according to Him. > > Your friends don't want to let you in to love them because when they have > done that in the past, that kind of " love " put them in mental hospitals, in > groups of church people spending hours trying to cast out the demons, and > then there are the well meaning family members who make ultimatums " My way > or the highway " . This from the people who love you? Quite frankly they are > scared to death of your kind of love. Perhaps your version would not be > like that but we have all been burned and we are shy around potential > straight abusers. Many of us do not have straight friends anymore. Have no > desire to have straight friends at all. Too much chance of being beaten up > if not physically certainly verbally. Some, perhaps even with well meaning > intentions. > > Well God made us gay and God makes no mistakes. I suggest you read the book > " Holy Homosexuals " by Rev. Piazza about $14.00. It is for sale in > my church bookstore. My church has made great strides with me coming to > appreciate straight people. I am no longer afraid of them. I have hundreds > of them at my Episcopal church who would support me. In fact, they would > give me the shirt off their backs if I needed it. I consider them true > Christians. > > I feel unaccepted as a Christian sometimes myself. I expect to be > unaccepted as gay ALL the time as well. As a Gay Christian I get strange > vibes all different sides. > > God has sent you these good gay friends for a purpose. He is not through > with you yet. I think you should stop listening to your Bible beating > preachers and instead listen to that voice inside. That is the Holy Spirit. > See what it has to say about good people who you want to love. I think you > don't have to look at your friends as gay. If you could play like you don't > know their sexual preference, and see that God loves them and wants you to > love them exactly the way HE made them because He did that for a purpose. > You don't have to know why. > > Surely you understand how your previous hurtful words were taken as judgment > of us all. You can learn non judgmental love but I am not sure you know > enough about it just yet. > > DLB > > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:53:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, morningsunranch@... writes: Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? DL, I don't know about you husbands friends, but I can recall having homo-erotic thoughts and dreams going back to when I was 3 years old. I believe most people have had some same-sex experience in their lives and there is broad spectrum of homo-hetero sexuality with relatively few people at the polar extremes (exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.) For people in the middle of the spectrum, like Al Gore, who said it was a matter of choice, it is a matter of choice. Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans, it occurs in animals as well. Logically, it seems to be a natural response to overpopulation. I shudder to t hink of what it would be like if everyone were breeding. I have much more respect for people who are honest about their feelings than those who live lies to appear " normal. " And I have no respect for religions that condemn people for whom they love. Then there are careers that are overly demanding on individuals and not conducive to raising families. Homosexuality seems like a natural answer to this as well. Perhaps if priests were allowed to express their homo-erotic feelings in a normal way, they wouldn't be preying on children. And I wouldn't be surprised if for every individual who has sued the church charging homosexual abuse, there are even more who cherish the love they were shown. As for glyconutrients: People have recovered from HIV/AIDS doing countless things. The common thread that I have seen in thousands of individuals is that they abandon the medical treatment, which causes all of the conditions that we call " AIDS. " 18 years ago, when I was given my HIV death sentence, based on my own good health and what I had observed in a number of my friends, I thought I had discovered the cure -- a simple immune-boosting exercise called rebounding. However, after digging deeper, I learned that HIV/AIDS was the epitome of medical blunders/fraud. HIV, like various other forms of witchcraft, only affects those who believe in it. Promoting anything as " the cure " is marketing bullshit. People deserve the truth. AIDS is just the tip of the medical iceberg. Modern medicine is the biggest, costliest and most damaging false religion on the face of the Earth. Exposing the AIDS lies is the first step towards the Bastille of medical " science. " Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Is this group censored? I sent a reply to above subject and it hasn't appeared, but I see replies written after mine were posted. What gives? Here again is my post to and DL: In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:53:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, morningsunranch@... writes: Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? , I don't know about you husband's friends, but I can recall having homo-erotic thoughts and dreams going back to when I was 3 years old. I believe most people have had some same-sex experience in their lives and there is broad spectrum of homo-hetero sexuality with relatively few people at the polar extremes (exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.) For people in the middle of the spectrum, like Al Gore, who said it was a matter of choice, it is a matter of choice. Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans, it occurs in animals as well. Logically, it seems to be a natural response to overpopulation. I shudder to think of what it would be like if everyone were breeding. I have much more respect for people who are honest about their feelings than those who live lies to appear " normal. " And I have no respect for religions that condemn people for whom they love. Then there are careers that are overly demanding on individuals and not conducive to raising families. Homosexuality seems like a natural answer to this as well. Perhaps if priests were allowed to express their homo-erotic feelings in a normal way, they wouldn't be preying on children. And I wouldn't be surprised if for every individual who has sued the church charging homosexual abuse, there are even more who cherish the love they were shown. : As for glyconutrients: People have recovered from HIV/AIDS doing countless things. The common thread that I have seen in thousands of individuals is that they abandon the medical treatment, which causes all of the conditions that we call " AIDS. " 18 years ago, when I was given my HIV death sentence, based on my own good health and what I had observed in a number of my friends, I thought I had discovered the cure -- a simple immune-boosting exercise called rebounding. However, after digging deeper, I learned that HIV/AIDS was the epitome of medical blunders/fraud. HIV, like various other forms of witchcraft, only affects those who believe in it. Promoting anything as " the cure " is marketing bullshit. People deserve the truth. AIDS is just the tip of the medical iceberg. Modern medicine is the biggest, costliest and most damaging false religion on the face of the Earth. Exposing the AIDS lies is the first step towards the Bastille of medical " science. " Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 and or Bullock, How did you hear about this study on Glycos and who in San Francisco is conducting it locally? Do you know how they can be reached? I am surprised I haven't heard anything about it as I live here and usually watch for such things and would have been interested in participating. What I have known about these glyco nuts from the past is that it is the same Dallas based group of Christians who have gone by many product and corporate names that have been touting this miracle cure for twenty years and have never pulled together solid evidence, but they will gladly take your money regardless of what " sexuality " you are, and turn around and give it to the Republican party!!! It's true that glycos are good nutrition and good for you, but where DLB is the evidence that it cures Aids or for that matter any other chronic disease or dysfunction other than say just so??? You show me that, and not just so called testimonials, and I will be your first customer. I have seen their sales material and there is not solid evidence provided by any study. Of course feeding africans with glyco or any other nutrients will provide benefits: THERE ARE SUFFERING FROM MALNUTRITION! So if there actually is a control study going on in SF or anywhere with published results, I am open minded and want to hear about it. All I have heard up till now it sales hype. At least rebounding has solid scientific research done by NASA. Where is the scientific proof that Glycos will do anything other than provide some good nutritional benefit, which I agree they do. But so does algae. By the way, aloe is a very cheap and easy to produce substance! Be Well, Eliot Re: please stay D.L. Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? On another note that maybe you can appreciate. Right now in S.F. there are 70 people who are doing a double blind controlled study using the Glyconutrients. They all have full blown aids. It will be a 6 month study and is b eing funded by Mannarelief, a christian non profit org. dedicated to helping aids. They have already reached out to Africa and have helped many orphans in that country get better with the Glyconutrients. The goal of Mannatech is to get so big so that we can also reach the mothers so there does not have to be any more orphans. Mannatech is also involved in the GLobal Aids Awareness program that is traveling around in several continents over the next 3 years to educate people about aids. Mannatech had to raise 500K just to be involved. SO even though you think Christian have it out for gays, both Mannatech and Mannarelief are Chritian owned and run companies, so not all Chritians are against gays. This Awareness program is going to have a huge impact on AIds. Take care, D.L. Bullock wrote: > Of course your gay friends keep you at arm's length. If I met you I > probably would too. You, as a Christian, have a problem with accepting me > just the way God made me---Gay. Gay people have been beaten down verbally, > physically and at one time we were burned at the stake because God made us > Gay. Do evangelical Christians think God makes mistakes? I don't. > > Most GLBT people do not go to church. Not because they do not believe in > God but because we have been mentioned in too many sermons where they list > the most horrible of sinners. You know the drill, the preacher lists > thieves, murderers, child molesters, prostitutes and ....homosexuals. Many > of us have been asked or instructed to leave the church and never come back. > Many of us did not have to have someone tell us that. Once we realized that > this is the way God made us and those people at that church think I am as > bad as a ax murderer, why would I ever go back there. Why would God make us > gay and then tell us that we are evil to be the way He made us. No that is > something that men came up with. The old testament law has no power over > Christians. In the new testament however, you will notice that Jesus said > not a single word about Gay. Since He spoke about everything of any > importance in our lives, Gay must not be very important according to Him. > > Your friends don't want to let you in to love them because when they have > done that in the past, that kind of " love " put them in mental hospitals, in > groups of church people spending hours trying to cast out the demons, and > then there are the well meaning family members who make ultimatums " My way > or the highway " . This from the people who love you? Quite frankly they are > scared to death of your kind of love. Perhaps your version would not be > like that but we have all been burned and we are shy around potential > straight abusers. Many of us do not have straight friends anymore. Have no > desire to have straight friends at all. Too much chance of being beaten up > if not physically certainly verbally. Some, perhaps even with well meaning > intentions. > > Well God made us gay and God makes no mistakes. I suggest you read the book > " Holy Homosexuals " by Rev. Piazza about $14.00. It is for sale in > my church bookstore. My church has made great strides with me coming to > appreciate straight people. I am no longer afraid of them. I have hundreds > of them at my Episcopal church who would support me. In fact, they would > give me the shirt off their backs if I needed it. I consider them true > Christians. > > I feel unaccepted as a Christian sometimes myself. I expect to be > unaccepted as gay ALL the time as well. As a Gay Christian I get strange > vibes all different sides. > > God has sent you these good gay friends for a purpose. He is not through > with you yet. I think you should stop listening to your Bible beating > preachers and instead listen to that voice inside. That is the Holy Spirit. > See what it has to say about good people who you want to love. I think you > don't have to look at your friends as gay. If you could play like you don't > know their sexual preference, and see that God loves them and wants you to > love them exactly the way HE made them because He did that for a purpose. > You don't have to know why. > > Surely you understand how your previous hurtful words were taken as judgment > of us all. You can learn non judgmental love but I am not sure you know > enough about it just yet. > > DLB > > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Er, do not forget ozone! May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. Re: please stay D.L. Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? On another note that maybe you can appreciate. Right now in S.F. there are 70 people who are doing a double blind controlled study using the Glyconutrients. They all have full blown aids. It will be a 6 month study and is b eing funded by Mannarelief, a christian non profit org. dedicated to helping aids. They have already reached out to Africa and have helped many orphans in that country get better with the Glyconutrients. The goal of Mannatech is to get so big so that we can also reach the mothers so there does not have to be any more orphans. Mannatech is also involved in the GLobal Aids Awareness program that is traveling around in several continents over the next 3 years to educate people about aids. Mannatech had to raise 500K just to be involved. SO even though you think Christian have it out for gays, both Mannatech and Mannarelief are Chritian owned and run companies, so not all Chritians are against gays. This Awareness program is going to have a huge impact on AIds. Take care, D.L. Bullock wrote: > Of course your gay friends keep you at arm's length. If I met you I > probably would too. You, as a Christian, have a problem with accepting me > just the way God made me---Gay. Gay people have been beaten down verbally, > physically and at one time we were burned at the stake because God made us > Gay. Do evangelical Christians think God makes mistakes? I don't. > > Most GLBT people do not go to church. Not because they do not believe in > God but because we have been mentioned in too many sermons where they list > the most horrible of sinners. You know the drill, the preacher lists > thieves, murderers, child molesters, prostitutes and ....homosexuals. Many > of us have been asked or instructed to leave the church and never come back. > Many of us did not have to have someone tell us that. Once we realized that > this is the way God made us and those people at that church think I am as > bad as a ax murderer, why would I ever go back there. Why would God make us > gay and then tell us that we are evil to be the way He made us. No that is > something that men came up with. The old testament law has no power over > Christians. In the new testament however, you will notice that Jesus said > not a single word about Gay. Since He spoke about everything of any > importance in our lives, Gay must not be very important according to Him. > > Your friends don't want to let you in to love them because when they have > done that in the past, that kind of " love " put them in mental hospitals, in > groups of church people spending hours trying to cast out the demons, and > then there are the well meaning family members who make ultimatums " My way > or the highway " . This from the people who love you? Quite frankly they are > scared to death of your kind of love. Perhaps your version would not be > like that but we have all been burned and we are shy around potential > straight abusers. Many of us do not have straight friends anymore. Have no > desire to have straight friends at all. Too much chance of being beaten up > if not physically certainly verbally. Some, perhaps even with well meaning > intentions. > > Well God made us gay and God makes no mistakes. I suggest you read the book > " Holy Homosexuals " by Rev. Piazza about $14.00. It is for sale in > my church bookstore. My church has made great strides with me coming to > appreciate straight people. I am no longer afraid of them. I have hundreds > of them at my Episcopal church who would support me. In fact, they would > give me the shirt off their backs if I needed it. I consider them true > Christians. > > I feel unaccepted as a Christian sometimes myself. I expect to be > unaccepted as gay ALL the time as well. As a Gay Christian I get strange > vibes all different sides. > > God has sent you these good gay friends for a purpose. He is not through > with you yet. I think you should stop listening to your Bible beating > preachers and instead listen to that voice inside. That is the Holy Spirit. > See what it has to say about good people who you want to love. I think you > don't have to look at your friends as gay. If you could play like you don't > know their sexual preference, and see that God loves them and wants you to > love them exactly the way HE made them because He did that for a purpose. > You don't have to know why. > > Surely you understand how your previous hurtful words were taken as judgment > of us all. You can learn non judgmental love but I am not sure you know > enough about it just yet. > > DLB > > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 It came through Ed. I'm not sure why you didn't see it. Caer Re: please stay Is this group censored? I sent a reply to above subject and it hasn't appeared, but I see replies written after mine were posted. What gives? Here again is my post to and DL: In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:53:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, morningsunranch@... writes: Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? , I don't know about you husband's friends, but I can recall having homo-erotic thoughts and dreams going back to when I was 3 years old. I believe most people have had some same-sex experience in their lives and there is broad spectrum of homo-hetero sexuality with relatively few people at the polar extremes (exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.) For people in the middle of the spectrum, like Al Gore, who said it was a matter of choice, it is a matter of choice. Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans, it occurs in animals as well. Logically, it seems to be a natural response to overpopulation. I shudder to think of what it would be like if everyone were breeding. I have much more respect for people who are honest about their feelings than those who live lies to appear " normal. " And I have no respect for religions that condemn people for whom they love. Then there are careers that are overly demanding on individuals and not conducive to raising families. Homosexuality seems like a natural answer to this as well. Perhaps if priests were allowed to express their homo-erotic feelings in a normal way, they wouldn't be preying on children. And I wouldn't be surprised if for every individual who has sued the church charging homosexual abuse, there are even more who cherish the love they were shown. : As for glyconutrients: People have recovered from HIV/AIDS doing countless things. The common thread that I have seen in thousands of individuals is that they abandon the medical treatment, which causes all of the conditions that we call " AIDS. " 18 years ago, when I was given my HIV death sentence, based on my own good health and what I had observed in a number of my friends, I thought I had discovered the cure -- a simple immune-boosting exercise called rebounding. However, after digging deeper, I learned that HIV/AIDS was the epitome of medical blunders/fraud. HIV, like various other forms of witchcraft, only affects those who believe in it. Promoting anything as " the cure " is marketing bullshit. People deserve the truth. AIDS is just the tip of the medical iceberg. Modern medicine is the biggest, costliest and most damaging false religion on the face of the Earth. Exposing the AIDS lies is the first step towards the Bastille of medical " science. " Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 IS THIS GROUP BACK ON THE HOMOPHOBIA THING AGAIN? For one thing there is a proven scientific genetic brain difference that was discovered years ago thought might be the cause of homosexuality, but what difference does that make? Keep your religion to yourself. I am not a Christian and could care less WHAT you think or believe. What you think about me is none of my business and what I think of you is none of yours. This is not a religious discussion, nor one on homosexuality. It is a discussion on AIDS, or AIDS symptoms, it's causes or not, and cures, and the sharing of relief from the disease or symptoms whether real or imagined. I find it insulting that you are questioning my sexuality or it's orientation based on your or any one else's man made religious beliefs or some damn paper your former husband wrote about two homos he knew. That's just stupid! This is not a chat room to judge people and if you continue I do wish you would leave or go to a Christian Right chat room where you can judge and bash homosexuals all you want. You have no business prying into my bedroom, I don't care what your religion is!! Haven't you anything else better to do?? I have found history of chat in this room of blaming AIDS on homosexuality or anal sex. This is as mythical as the AIDS myth itself. What it is, and it is, SO CHRISTIAN and SO AMERICAN---is sexual guilt and sexual guilt on the level of thought maybe the REAL cause of AIDS if you have to have one. Be Well, Eliot Re: please stay Is this group censored? I sent a reply to above subject and it hasn't appeared, but I see replies written after mine were posted. What gives? Here again is my post to and DL: In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:53:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, morningsunranch@... writes: Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? , I don't know about you husband's friends, but I can recall having homo-erotic thoughts and dreams going back to when I was 3 years old. I believe most people have had some same-sex experience in their lives and there is broad spectrum of homo-hetero sexuality with relatively few people at the polar extremes (exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.) For people in the middle of the spectrum, like Al Gore, who said it was a matter of choice, it is a matter of choice. Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans, it occurs in animals as well. Logically, it seems to be a natural response to overpopulation. I shudder to think of what it would be like if everyone were breeding. I have much more respect for people who are honest about their feelings than those who live lies to appear " normal. " And I have no respect for religions that condemn people for whom they love. Then there are careers that are overly demanding on individuals and not conducive to raising families. Homosexuality seems like a natural answer to this as well. Perhaps if priests were allowed to express their homo-erotic feelings in a normal way, they wouldn't be preying on children. And I wouldn't be surprised if for every individual who has sued the church charging homosexual abuse, there are even more who cherish the love they were shown. : As for glyconutrients: People have recovered from HIV/AIDS doing countless things. The common thread that I have seen in thousands of individuals is that they abandon the medical treatment, which causes all of the conditions that we call " AIDS. " 18 years ago, when I was given my HIV death sentence, based on my own good health and what I had observed in a number of my friends, I thought I had discovered the cure -- a simple immune-boosting exercise called rebounding. However, after digging deeper, I learned that HIV/AIDS was the epitome of medical blunders/fraud. HIV, like various other forms of witchcraft, only affects those who believe in it. Promoting anything as " the cure " is marketing bullshit. People deserve the truth. AIDS is just the tip of the medical iceberg. Modern medicine is the biggest, costliest and most damaging false religion on the face of the Earth. Exposing the AIDS lies is the first step towards the Bastille of medical " science. " Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Hi: As I have worked on this type of project for many years and have seen all sides of the story and knowing that anger comes from fear, the question arises. Please allow others to voice their opinion without fear of retribution, for it is as important to them as yours is to you. Not all of humanity is at a complete level of understanding and celebrate the differences in us all, I think they genuinely try to help in whatever way makes sense to them, is it not enough that they are trying? Would you have it another way? May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. Re: please stay Is this group censored? I sent a reply to above subject and it hasn't appeared, but I see replies written after mine were posted. What gives? Here again is my post to and DL: In a message dated 4/22/2005 10:53:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, morningsunranch@... writes: Several years ago my husband wrote his thesus on the homosexual lifestyle. It was about 25 years ago. He at the time was living with 2 homosexuals and also many other friends he had were gay. Back then all the people he spoke with said they were not born gay, that it was something they evolved into later in their lives, it was a preference. It was many years later that this line of thinking was no longer popular. Do you know why the thinking changed? , I don't know about you husband's friends, but I can recall having homo-erotic thoughts and dreams going back to when I was 3 years old. I believe most people have had some same-sex experience in their lives and there is broad spectrum of homo-hetero sexuality with relatively few people at the polar extremes (exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.) For people in the middle of the spectrum, like Al Gore, who said it was a matter of choice, it is a matter of choice. Homosexuality is not exclusive to humans, it occurs in animals as well. Logically, it seems to be a natural response to overpopulation. I shudder to think of what it would be like if everyone were breeding. I have much more respect for people who are honest about their feelings than those who live lies to appear " normal. " And I have no respect for religions that condemn people for whom they love. Then there are careers that are overly demanding on individuals and not conducive to raising families. Homosexuality seems like a natural answer to this as well. Perhaps if priests were allowed to express their homo-erotic feelings in a normal way, they wouldn't be preying on children. And I wouldn't be surprised if for every individual who has sued the church charging homosexual abuse, there are even more who cherish the love they were shown. : As for glyconutrients: People have recovered from HIV/AIDS doing countless things. The common thread that I have seen in thousands of individuals is that they abandon the medical treatment, which causes all of the conditions that we call " AIDS. " 18 years ago, when I was given my HIV death sentence, based on my own good health and what I had observed in a number of my friends, I thought I had discovered the cure -- a simple immune-boosting exercise called rebounding. However, after digging deeper, I learned that HIV/AIDS was the epitome of medical blunders/fraud. HIV, like various other forms of witchcraft, only affects those who believe in it. Promoting anything as " the cure " is marketing bullshit. People deserve the truth. AIDS is just the tip of the medical iceberg. Modern medicine is the biggest, costliest and most damaging false religion on the face of the Earth. Exposing the AIDS lies is the first step towards the Bastille of medical " science. " Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Ed, don't worry I saw your post the first time it went through. You must have missed seeing it. The rest of us saw it. DLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem with the following? " You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. " May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 All I know is that after 2 weeks on glyconutrients my eczema, for which I had been trying to get rid of for the past 5 months, cleared up completely, and my energy has markedly increased. . --- Jovan <humansafe@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem with the following? " You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. " May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear : For the most part it would be true, what surprises me is that blanket statement does not take into consideration that most disease as of late has one particular symptomology and that is that the body is not capable of taking in nutrients through the cells, the later stages of what doctors refer to as HIV/AIDS is one of them, there are many others. May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 as I see it, that is exactly where glyco science has taken us, the combination of a powerful antioxidant formula together with the necessary " sugars " and hey presto..cell to cell communication. As you say most diseases as of late culminate in the body not getting the necessary nutrients thru the cells. Something is missing. A lack of vit C once was responsible for the deaths of thousands of sailors, it was a pretty simple fix, but totally essential. NZ --- Jovan <humansafe@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Dear : For the most part it would be true, what surprises me is that blanket statement does not take into consideration that most disease as of late has one particular symptomology and that is that the body is not capable of taking in nutrients through the cells, the later stages of what doctors refer to as HIV/AIDS is one of them, there are many others. May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Yes, , but this.....is something more than that from my experience. May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the bloodstream. The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. You would not hear about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been taking in for years. When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any disease. Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most complete medical database on the net to be found at www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. You will find important people in science writing the articles. The ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often still readable by the non scientific. Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets of the party in power right now. There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. With glycos there is a different outcome. You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will see. I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the extreme. I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. D.L. Bullock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 And that proves what? Nothing. Perhaps you needed 2 cents worth of zinc and instead you paid huge sums of money for glycos. As for your perception that your energy has increased, that's why we need scientific studies. People have perceived increases in energy for any number of things. Sara --- peter newman <petenewman2004@...> wrote: > > All I know is that after 2 weeks on glyconutrients > my > eczema, for which I had been trying to get rid of > for > the past 5 months, cleared up completely, and my > energy has markedly increased. > . > > > > > --- Jovan <humansafe@...> > wrote: > > --------------------------------- > Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem > with > the following? > > " You are only giving the body the building blocks > and > the support it needs > to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do > with this nutrition. No > doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, > become non-adhesive to > viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they > have the sugars in them > and on them, know to communicate that it is time to > take in those vitamins > and minerals that they haven't been taking in for > years. " > > May God Bless You And Keep You Well > > Professor Ozone () > www.ozoneuniversity.com > > > Without prejudice to the generality of the contents > herein, this > communication does not attach any legal liability on > the originator thereof. > This communication contains information, which is > confidential and may also > be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the > intended recipient(s). If > you have received this communication by error, > please > delete the email and > destroy any copies of it. > > > RE: please stay > > > This is not that group of Christian wackos that were > pushing fruit juices a > few years back. This company has been in business > for > only ten years and > all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and > patented since 1996. This is > the research and development company in Coppell > Texas > that owns the patents > on everything the whole science of glycobiology is > studying for the last > twenty five years. It is the only clinical > application for delivering all 8 > sugars into the bloodstream. > > The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and > www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly > interested in Alzheimer's, > Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke > studies. > You would not hear > about the study unless you were working with > Mannarelief or were using > glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. > > ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR > MITIGATION FOR ANY > DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building > blocks and the support > it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know > what > to do with this > nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to > remove toxins, become > non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The > cells when they have the > sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that > it is time to take in > those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been > taking in for years. > When your body is this healthy there is no need for > a > cure for any disease. > Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. > > This is why older folks can take tons of calcium > supplements and have their > osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells > cannot > communicate with the > elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be all > through the blood but the > cells do not take it in. Once the sugars are in > place > on the cell surface, > suddenly communication happens and the calcium is > sucked into the cell. > This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our > cells use. The same > thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the > cells cannot process it > correctly it is called type II diabetes. > > You can be sure that this is not the company you > speak > of when you mention > no solid evidence. This company has put together > the > most complete medical > database on the net to be found at > www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer > reviewed and has articles by the heavy hitters in > the > field and other fields > as well. When you go to any of the documents found > there, click on the > " authors biography " link in the box at upper right > hand next to the title. > You will find important people in science writing > the > articles. The ones in > green are going to be in medical terminology, but it > is often still readable > by the non scientific. > > Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the > Repuglican party. I refuse to > buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the > pockets of the party in > power right now. > > There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished > Africans with all sorts > of nutritious food for years but their diseases did > not go away. With > glycos there is a different outcome. > > You need to go to one of the local meetings in your > area and you will see. > I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got > something completely > different. There was no one there taking money or > pressuring you to buy > anything. The only money changing hands was the > associates themselves who > were paying a small fee to support the fund that > brings important speakers > to town to tell us the latest discoveries and > results > from ongoing studies > from all over the world. The Royal Society of > Medicine has asked this > company to present the science before the UK's most > prestigious doctors more > than once. One of them, Axford, who is the > most > highly recognized > expert in Rheumatology in the UK and the world, was > so > impressed by the > clinical application by Mannatech, that he asked > them > if he could be on > their board and that is where he sits right now. If > you go to his author > page at glycoscience.org, you will see the several > medical textbooks he as > written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. > > The accusation that there is no science, is simply > unfounded ...in the > extreme. > > I agree that rebounding is great for your health and > especially when you > start on glyconutrients, I think you should > definitely > do some rebounding to > clear out the toxins that your cells will be > spitting > out for the first week > on the products. This will prevent a " correction > crisis " as toxins are > cleansed and various bacteria, yeast and viruses die > off and need to be > expelled through the blood and lymphatic systems. > > D.L. Bullock > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Of course it's fiction. Is that the problem you're talking about? Sara --- Jovan <humansafe@...> wrote: > > Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem > with the following? > > " You are only giving the body the building blocks > and the support it needs > to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do > with this nutrition. No > doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, > become non-adhesive to > viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when they > have the sugars in them > and on them, know to communicate that it is time to > take in those vitamins > and minerals that they haven't been taking in for > years. " > > May God Bless You And Keep You Well > > Professor Ozone () > www.ozoneuniversity.com > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Sara: I agree with you on that one! May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay > > > This is not that group of Christian wackos that were pushing fruit > juices a few years back. This company has been in business for only > ten years and all 8 monosaccharides have only been known and patented > since 1996. This is the research and development company in Coppell > Texas that owns the patents on everything the whole science of > glycobiology is studying for the last twenty five years. It is the > only clinical application for delivering all 8 sugars into the > bloodstream. > > The studies are being run by www.mannarelief.org and > www.stemcellfunction.org The latter is mainly interested in > Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Traumatic head injury and stroke studies. > You would not hear > about the study unless you were working with Mannarelief or were using > glyconutrients. This is a word of mouth thing. > > ONCE AND FOR ALL, THIS IS NOT A CURE, TREATMENT OR MITIGATION FOR ANY > DISEASE. You are only giving the body the building blocks and the > support it needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do > with this nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove > toxins, become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The > cells when they have the sugars in them and on them, know to > communicate that it is time to take in those vitamins and minerals > that they haven't been taking in for years. > When your body is this healthy there is no need for a cure for any > disease. > Your body just fights it off and it just goes away. > > This is why older folks can take tons of calcium supplements and have > their osteoporosis get worse and worse. Their cells cannot > communicate with the elements in the bloodstream and calcium may be > all through the blood but the cells do not take it in. Once the > sugars are in place on the cell surface, suddenly communication > happens and the calcium is sucked into the cell. > This is the same for all kinds of nutrients that our cells use. The > same thing happens for glucose in the blood and when the cells cannot > process it correctly it is called type II diabetes. > > You can be sure that this is not the company you speak of when you > mention no solid evidence. This company has put together the most > complete medical database on the net to be found at > www.glycoscience.org It is totally peer reviewed and has articles by > the heavy hitters in the field and other fields as well. When you go > to any of the documents found there, click on the " authors biography " > link in the box at upper right hand next to the title. > You will find important people in science writing the articles. The > ones in green are going to be in medical terminology, but it is often > still readable by the non scientific. > > Forgive me, but I want nothing to do with the Repuglican party. I > refuse to buy Big Pharma drugs because they are what lines the pockets > of the party in power right now. > > There have been relief agencies feeding malnourished Africans with all > sorts of nutritious food for years but their diseases did not go away. > With glycos there is a different outcome. > > You need to go to one of the local meetings in your area and you will > see. > I, like you, expected a sales meeting and got something completely > different. There was no one there taking money or pressuring you to > buy anything. The only money changing hands was the associates > themselves who were paying a small fee to support the fund that brings > important speakers to town to tell us the latest discoveries and > results from ongoing studies from all over the world. The Royal > Society of Medicine has asked this company to present the science > before the UK's most prestigious doctors more than once. One of them, > Axford, who is the most highly recognized expert in Rheumatology > in the UK and the world, was so impressed by the clinical application > by Mannatech, that he asked them if he could be on their board and > that is where he sits right now. If you go to his author page at > glycoscience.org, you will see the several medical textbooks he as > written or contributed to at the bottom of the page. > > The accusation that there is no science, is simply unfounded ...in the > extreme. > > I agree that rebounding is great for your health and especially when > you start on glyconutrients, I think you should definitely do some > rebounding to clear out the toxins that your cells will be spitting > out for the first week on the products. This will prevent a > " correction crisis " as toxins are cleansed and various bacteria, yeast > and viruses die off and need to be expelled through the blood and > lymphatic systems. > > D.L. Bullock > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Without a doubt! May God Bless You And Keep You Well Professor Ozone () www.ozoneuniversity.com Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it. RE: please stay Of course it's fiction. Is that the problem you're talking about? Sara --- Jovan <humansafe@...> wrote: > > Is it just me or does anyone else have a problem with the following? > > " You are only giving the body the building blocks and the support it > needs to repair itself. The body's cells know what to do with this > nutrition. No doctor has to instruct your cells to remove toxins, > become non-adhesive to viruses, bacteria, or toxins. The cells when > they have the sugars in them and on them, know to communicate that it > is time to take in those vitamins and minerals that they haven't been > taking in for years. " > > May God Bless You And Keep You Well > > Professor Ozone () > www.ozoneuniversity.com > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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