RE: FW: How Important is Our Diet ?

[Guest guest]

> FW: How Important is Our Diet ?

>

>

>Hi Everyone,

>

>Someone passed to me the following message without an

>indication of its source.

>

>How true is it?

>

> K.

>Alabang, Philippines

>

>--- xxx <ocaxxxx@...> wrote:

>

>> How Important is Our Diet ?

>>

>> For those of you who watch what you eat, here's the

>> final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to

>> know the truth after all those conficting medical

>> studies:

>>

>> 1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer

>> heart attacks than Americans.

>>

>> 2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer few heart

>> attacks than Americans

>>

>> 3. Africans drink very little red wine adn suffer

>> fewer heart attacks than Americans.

>>

>> 4. Italians drnk excessive amounts of red wine and

>> suffer few heart attacks than Americans.

>>

>> 5. Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of

>> sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks

>> than the Americans..

>>

>> CONCLUSION:

>>

>> Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is

>> apparently what kills you.

It's a complete and utter fact. That's why I try to speak German (the only

language I know well enough to converse in) whenever possible.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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[Guest guest]

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 06:55:36 -0400, Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

> >> Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is

> >> apparently what kills you.

hahahaha!!!!

But seriously - the phenomenon that was seriously studied pertains to

the French penchant for consuming plenty of fat in the form of butter,

and cheese, and olive oil and yet having less heart attacks than

Americans. The phenomenon is known as the " French Paradox " and had

doctors asking what is it about the French? Is it the garlic? The

wine? The snails? The truffles? The sex? Or a stress-free life?

, maybe we should ask the Americans themselves what they think is

the culprit!

- jim

[Guest guest]

Suze, I take it from your signature that you are connected to the

Westin A Price Foundation - am I right?

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Re: Re: The vegetarian

debate..coconut questions

Below my signature you will find a recent post from another list you

might find of interest.

War, the God That Failed

http://tinyurl.com/2npch

" In Framingham, Massachusetts, the more saturated fat one ate, the

more

cholesterol one ate, the lower people's serum cholesterol. We found

that

people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturate fat, ate

the most

calories weighed the least, and were the most physically active. "

(

Castelli, MD, Director of the Framingham Study, one of the largest

medical

studies ever done on the effects of fat and cholesterol on the heart)

" If you believe that you can ward off death from heart disease by

altering

the amount of cholesterol in your blood, whether by diet or by drugs,

you

are following a regime that still has no basis in fact. Rather, you

as a

consumer have been taken in by certain commercial interests and

health

groups who are more interested in your money than your life " (

Pinckney, MD, Former Co-editor of the Journal of the Medical

Association,

the most prestigious medical journal in the world)

" The diet-heart idea (the notion that saturated fats and cholesterol

cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.

This idea

has been repeatedly shown to be wrong, and yet, for complicated

reasons of

pride, profit and prejudice, the hypothesis continues to be exploited

by

scientists, fund-raising enterprises, food companies and even

governmental

agencies. The public is being deceived by the greatest health scam of

the

century. " ( Mann, MD, Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at

Vanderbilt University, Tennessee and co-director of the Framingham

Heart

Study)

" The idea that saturated fats cause heart disease is completely

wrong, but

the statement has been published so many times over the last three

decades

that it is very difficult to convince people otherwise unless they

are

willing to take the time to read and learn what all the economic and

political factors were that produced the anti-saturated-fat agenda "

(

Enig, International expert in the field of lipid biochemistry,

President of

land Nutritionists organization)

" Whatever causes coronary heart disease, it is not because of a high

intake

of saturated fat and cholesterol. " ( Gurr, PhD, Renowned lipid

chemist)

More:

" Cholesterol Skeptics and the Bad News About Statin Drugs, " ann

Napoli,

Center for Medical Consumers

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

" The Cholesterol Myths, " Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

" Studies of Dietary Fat and Heart Disease. " Ravnskov U, Allan C,

Atrens D,

Enig MG, Groves B, Kaufman J, Kroneld R, Rosch PJ, Rosenman R, Werkö

L,

Nielsen JV, Wilske J, Worm N. Science 2002; 295:1464-1465.

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholskept.links.responsetoGrundy.htm

" The Soft Science of Dietary Fat, " Taubes, Science Magazine

(winner of

the National Assoc. of Science Writers, Inc. 2001 Science in Society

Journalism Award for best magazine article; he also wrote " What if

it's all

been a big, fat lie? " which is on the Atkins Center website at

http://atkins.com/Archive/2003/1/20-542932.html)

http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html

" Cholesterol does not cause coronary heart disease and statins don't

work by

lowering lipids. The role of inflammation and stress, " Rosch;

MD, FACP,

Clinical Professor of Medicine and Psychiatry, New York Medical

College,

President, The American Institute of Stress, Honorary Vice President,

International Stress Management Association.

http://www.thincs.org/WAPF2003.htm#paul

[Guest guest]

If open fire processing of vcno is cancerous, then why do the folks living in

rural areas who take vcno processed thru open fire live very long lives and died

cancer free? And neither did they develop heart disease. They died of plain

old age. There must be something very wrong with that finding.

Re: Re: The vegetarian

debate..coconut questions

Below my signature you will find a recent post from another list you

might find of interest.

War, the God That Failed

http://tinyurl.com/2npch

" In Framingham, Massachusetts, the more saturated fat one ate, the

more

cholesterol one ate, the lower people's serum cholesterol. We found

that

people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturate fat, ate

the most

calories weighed the least, and were the most physically active. "

(

Castelli, MD, Director of the Framingham Study, one of the largest

medical

studies ever done on the effects of fat and cholesterol on the heart)

" If you believe that you can ward off death from heart disease by

altering

the amount of cholesterol in your blood, whether by diet or by drugs,

you

are following a regime that still has no basis in fact. Rather, you

as a

consumer have been taken in by certain commercial interests and

health

groups who are more interested in your money than your life " (

Pinckney, MD, Former Co-editor of the Journal of the Medical

Association,

the most prestigious medical journal in the world)

" The diet-heart idea (the notion that saturated fats and cholesterol

cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.

This idea

has been repeatedly shown to be wrong, and yet, for complicated

reasons of

pride, profit and prejudice, the hypothesis continues to be exploited

by

scientists, fund-raising enterprises, food companies and even

governmental

agencies. The public is being deceived by the greatest health scam of

the

century. " ( Mann, MD, Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at

Vanderbilt University, Tennessee and co-director of the Framingham

Heart

Study)

" The idea that saturated fats cause heart disease is completely

wrong, but

the statement has been published so many times over the last three

decades

that it is very difficult to convince people otherwise unless they

are

willing to take the time to read and learn what all the economic and

political factors were that produced the anti-saturated-fat agenda "

(

Enig, International expert in the field of lipid biochemistry,

President of

land Nutritionists organization)

" Whatever causes coronary heart disease, it is not because of a high

intake

of saturated fat and cholesterol. " ( Gurr, PhD, Renowned lipid

chemist)

More:

" Cholesterol Skeptics and the Bad News About Statin Drugs, " ann

Napoli,

Center for Medical Consumers

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

" The Cholesterol Myths, " Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

" Studies of Dietary Fat and Heart Disease. " Ravnskov U, Allan C,

Atrens D,

Enig MG, Groves B, Kaufman J, Kroneld R, Rosch PJ, Rosenman R, Werkö

L,

Nielsen JV, Wilske J, Worm N. Science 2002; 295:1464-1465.

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholskept.links.responsetoGrundy.htm

" The Soft Science of Dietary Fat, " Taubes, Science Magazine

(winner of

the National Assoc. of Science Writers, Inc. 2001 Science in Society

Journalism Award for best magazine article; he also wrote " What if

it's all

been a big, fat lie? " which is on the Atkins Center website at

http://atkins.com/Archive/2003/1/20-542932.html)

http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html

" Cholesterol does not cause coronary heart disease and statins don't

work by

lowering lipids. The role of inflammation and stress, " Rosch;

MD, FACP,

Clinical Professor of Medicine and Psychiatry, New York Medical

College,

President, The American Institute of Stress, Honorary Vice President,

International Stress Management Association.

http://www.thincs.org/WAPF2003.htm#paul