RE: Fw: Dietary advice

[Guest guest]

Alobar wrote:

> Snip..........

>

> Cultures all over the world have been dealing with the same medical

> problems for as long as they have had the ability to share ideas and

> do primitive research. I discovered many plants which aid in blood

> sugar regulation, help heal insulin resistance in cells, and help

> regenerate beta cells which were used in other cultures back when

> insulin was discovered, but the docs and dietitians ignored anything

> which was not patented by the drug companies.

I am just starting out with trying to help myself instead of listening

to the ill advice I have been given for the past 15 years and I would be

very interested to learn about the plants you mention above.

All I am doing right now is LCHF and VOC, I have seen a change for the

better in the daily volume of insulin required to keep my BG levels

reasonable but I am still grossly overweight. I will persevere though if

you can point me to more knowledge I would deeply appreciate it. You are

obviously doing it right - congratulations!

Best wishes

KJ

[Guest guest]

There are no easy web references I can point to as I have been doing

research now for over 6 years and keep making adjustments as I find

more info.

Once my sweet tooth was tamed and I no longer cheated on my diet, and

went very low carb, got rid of most veggie oils other than olive oil,

then began using coconut oil daily, I had less and less reason to

snack or have very big meals. Taking lots of fiber with meals also

cut back on my wanting huge portions. Omega 3 fish oils have been

very important to me for both reversing insulin resistance, and for

arterial health. In the first 2 years I shed 90 pounds with no

effort. I suspect if I were heavier, I would have shed more.

Inulin fiber helps make the bowel healthier so one has better nutrient

absorption, and this cuts down on overeating too.

My legs are not as stable as they were when I was younger, so long

walks are not easy. I would go to Walmart at night when it is not

crowded and push my shopping basket up and down aisles for an hour or

more at a fast walk. Pushing the cart stabilized my shaky legs. I

refer to the shopping cart as my " Walmart " .

Diabetics tend to lose muscle mass on soles of feet due to poor

circulation, so I glued several layers of cushion and support into my

sandals so fast walking does not injure my tender feet.

Drinking pure water helps lose weight. No soda, no caffeine, no

juices. Getting rid of MSG helps curb appetite, so I amke all my food

from scratch, and very rarely eat out. I pack my lunch and take it

with me when I go to work. Also, no fake sweeteners like aspartame,

splenda, etc.

Above all, I am in total disagreement with the ADA diet, it is full of

carbs, which induce cravings for more carbs. So no bread, pasta,

grains, rice, or starchy veggies like corn, potatoes, or beans.

Diabetic drugs drop blood sugar levels too much so one gets really

hungry for snacks. Once my diet was changed to a regulated low carb

diet, I found I could get rid of the diabetic meds. You may need to

taper off rather than just quit.

Vitamins minerals and supplements are important. Vitamin C many times

a day until my stool gets too loose, then back off a bit. Initially

I needed over an ounce of C every day. Now I am down to 3-5 grams as

I have regained health. I take Benfotiamine (a lip soluble from of

Thiamine), Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acetyl L-Canritine three times a day

when stomach is empty. Diabetics need more Folic acid than most

folks. Niacin messes with glucometer readings. I use niacinamide, 6

times a day which helps blood glucose control anddoes not mess with

glucometer readings.

Personally, I am very much against all prescription meds. They all

mess with internal balance and side effects have long term health

consequences. I never took any shrink meds. I never use over the

counter pain killers because they weaken stomach, liver, or kidneys

when taken long term. Antibiotics I avoid unless my life is in

danger. I likewise avoid all prescribed hormones. I do not trust any

external regulation of my hormones. I feel that if I eat right and

take my vitamins, my body will make the hormones it needs.

I have an old friend who was severely messed up by the docs. She was

morbidly obese. The docs hacked out her thyroid and put her on

thyroid hormones. She still did not lose weight. Then they did

intestinal bypass surgery, which prevented her from absorbing needed

nutients. She lost some weight, but her health has been terrible for

over 20 years.

Above all, do your own web research. I read several hours a day on

health related issues. A lot of it is bunk. But it did not take me

too long to separate the garbage from the useful ideas. There is

always more to learn.

Alobar

On 3/6/08, Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> Alobar wrote:

> > Snip..........

> >

> > Cultures all over the world have been dealing with the same medical

> > problems for as long as they have had the ability to share ideas and

> > do primitive research. I discovered many plants which aid in blood

> > sugar regulation, help heal insulin resistance in cells, and help

> > regenerate beta cells which were used in other cultures back when

> > insulin was discovered, but the docs and dietitians ignored anything

> > which was not patented by the drug companies.

> I am just starting out with trying to help myself instead of listening

> to the ill advice I have been given for the past 15 years and I would be

> very interested to learn about the plants you mention above.

>

> All I am doing right now is LCHF and VOC, I have seen a change for the

> better in the daily volume of insulin required to keep my BG levels

> reasonable but I am still grossly overweight. I will persevere though if

> you can point me to more knowledge I would deeply appreciate it. You are

> obviously doing it right - congratulations!

>

> Best wishes

> KJ

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are a wise man.

Please explain about the Omega 3 lowering BSL?

Best Regards Ratliff

coconut oil, pick up in Volcan or PC robert.ratliff@...

On Thursday 06 March 2008 16:00:08 Alobar wrote:

> There are no easy web references I can point to as I have been doing

> research now for over 6 years and keep making adjustments as I find

> more info.

>

> Once my sweet tooth was tamed and I no longer cheated on my diet, and

> went very low carb, got rid of most veggie oils other than olive oil,

> then began using coconut oil daily, I had less and less reason to

> snack or have very big meals. Taking lots of fiber with meals also

> cut back on my wanting huge portions. Omega 3 fish oils have been

> very important to me for both reversing insulin resistance, and for

> arterial health. In the first 2 years I shed 90 pounds with no

> effort. I suspect if I were heavier, I would have shed more.

>

[Guest guest]

Insulin resistance is (at least partially) the result of cell

membranes not be made with the right sort of lipids. Most people are

quite low in omega 3, so the body does what it can and builds cell

membranes from what is available. Healthy saturated animal fats like

butter can also help. Most veggie oils are overcooked overprocessed

crap which cause more harm than good.

BTW, my mind is much sharper now due to intake of Alpha Lipoic Acid,

Benfotiamine, and Acetyl L-Carnitine. Age and a love of learning

helps to gain wisdom, but those 3 daily supplements made my mind much

sharper.

Alobar

On 3/6/08, Ratliff <bratliff@...> wrote:

> You are a wise man.

>

> Please explain about the Omega 3 lowering BSL?

>

>

> Best Regards Ratliff

> coconut oil, pick up in Volcan or PC robert.ratliff@...

[Guest guest]

Alobar wrote:

> There are no easy web references I can point to as I have been doing

> research now for over 6 years and keep making adjustments as I find

> more info.

>

Nevertheless thank you very much indeed for your insights and

willingness to share.

> Once my sweet tooth was tamed and I no longer cheated on my diet, and

> went very low carb, got rid of most veggie oils other than olive oil,

> then began using coconut oil daily, I had less and less reason to

> snack or have very big meals. Taking lots of fiber with meals also

> cut back on my wanting huge portions. Omega 3 fish oils have been

> very important to me for both reversing insulin resistance, and for

> arterial health. In the first 2 years I shed 90 pounds with no

> effort. I suspect if I were heavier, I would have shed more.

>

Supplements like these are very expensive here which makes it difficult

to take in the long run or as a lifestyle change - I keep looking for

Omega 3 and others though and I live in hope ;-) .

> Inulin fiber helps make the bowel healthier so one has better nutrient

> absorption, and this cuts down on overeating too.

>

Never heard of that one but I went to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber. So, where do you get this

from? Is it a tablet or something. I know I can get Psyllium - will this

do as well?

> My legs are not as stable as they were when I was younger, so long

> walks are not easy. I would go to Walmart at night when it is not

> crowded and push my shopping basket up and down aisles for an hour or

> more at a fast walk. Pushing the cart stabilized my shaky legs. I

> refer to the shopping cart as my " Walmart " .

>

Good idea, very inventive. My exercise is walking my dog. I do 4-5 km's

(about 3 miles) every day - but it's not strenuous walking. Still, it is

regular in any weather.

> Diabetics tend to lose muscle mass on soles of feet due to poor

> circulation, so I glued several layers of cushion and support into my

> sandals so fast walking does not injure my tender feet.

>

Yeah, the kids look at this oap in my bright red and white trainers :-P .

> Drinking pure water helps lose weight. No soda, no caffeine, no

> juices. Getting rid of MSG helps curb appetite, so I amke all my food

> from scratch, and very rarely eat out. I pack my lunch and take it

> with me when I go to work. Also, no fake sweeteners like aspartame,

> splenda, etc.

>

Are you referring to Monosodium glutamate? I too make all my own food

and I keep chickens and grow my own veggies - though I don't eat much of

them (daughter appreciates them though). I don't do sugars and sweets

nor artificial sweeteners either.

> Above all, I am in total disagreement with the ADA diet, it is full of

> carbs, which induce cravings for more carbs. So no bread, pasta,

> grains, rice, or starchy veggies like corn, potatoes, or beans.

>

I am sure you are right and I am fast becoming a convert.

> Diabetic drugs drop blood sugar levels too much so one gets really

> hungry for snacks. Once my diet was changed to a regulated low carb

> diet, I found I could get rid of the diabetic meds. You may need to

> taper off rather than just quit.

>

I am on a pump and it meters my basal needs continually at different

levels to account for the dawn phenomenon and so on. I administer bolus

doses with what I think I will need based on my experience. But now I

have been doing very little if any bolus dosing and staying around 115 -

120 anyway. Which is blowing my mind. But I have woken up twice now with

only 58 so I will be reducing my pumps pre awakening program. It would

be a dream come true if I could back off some of my meds though I don't

dare to think about coming off insulin entirely.

> Vitamins minerals and supplements are important. Vitamin C many times

> a day until my stool gets too loose, then back off a bit. Initially

> I needed over an ounce of C every day. Now I am down to 3-5 grams as

> I have regained health.

As a young man I was involved in an accident which caused gangrene to my

small bowel and 3 meters were removed. Whilst I am quite allright and

fully adjusted a long time ago the above as an indication of dosage

would not work. How do you know how much C you need - are there any

guidelines about?

> I take Benfotiamine (a lip soluble from of

> Thiamine),

Is this a medicine or a supplement?

> Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acetyl L-Canritine three times a day

> when stomach is empty. Diabetics need more Folic acid than most

> folks.

I can't get these, I have tried on previous recommendation but it is

hopeless.

> Niacin messes with glucometer readings. I use niacinamide, 6

> times a day which helps blood glucose control anddoes not mess with

> glucometer readings.

>

Does it really, I have only come across it as an aid for skin problems.

> Personally, I am very much against all prescription meds. They all

> mess with internal balance and side effects have long term health

> consequences. I never took any shrink meds. I never use over the

> counter pain killers because they weaken stomach, liver, or kidneys

> when taken long term. Antibiotics I avoid unless my life is in

> danger. I likewise avoid all prescribed hormones. I do not trust any

> external regulation of my hormones. I feel that if I eat right and

> take my vitamins, my body will make the hormones it needs.

>

Well, whilst I agree with you in principle I do know that I get very ill

if I forget to take my meds in the morning, but indeed, I am prepared to

revisit this as time goes by.

> I have an old friend who was severely messed up by the docs. She was

> morbidly obese. The docs hacked out her thyroid and put her on

> thyroid hormones. She still did not lose weight. Then they did

> intestinal bypass surgery, which prevented her from absorbing needed

> nutients. She lost some weight, but her health has been terrible for

> over 20 years.

>

How awful, I am lost for words.........

> Above all, do your own web research. I read several hours a day on

> health related issues. A lot of it is bunk. But it did not take me

> too long to separate the garbage from the useful ideas. There is

> always more to learn.

I will, And thank you for your encouragement.

Best wishes

KJ

[Guest guest]

Benfotiamine is classified as a vitamin. Available on the internet.

I get mine here:

http://www.fortune3.com/benfotiamine/Products-Benfo_150G_120_Order.html

Yes, supplements are expensive. Almost all of my cash goes for rent,

utilities, food, and supplements these days.

Inulin is a powder one mixes with water. It is available at a good

price is made by NOW. I get mine here:

http://www.vitaglo.com/2944.html

Inulin has been discussed on this list by Duncan Crow. Going to the

group website and doing a search will get you more info.

As your e-mail address is outside the US, it may be better for you to

get them elsewhere.

Vitamin C: I go by bowel tolerance. No URL handy, but I have read

that most diabetics do well with at least 5-10 grams a day. Best to

take in many small doses throughout the day.

Yes, MSG = Monosodium Glutamate.

In your case, it may not be possible to get off meds. I was on oral

diabetes drugs for less than 6 months when I quit.

Alobar

On 3/7/08, Karl Järnhammer <jernhammer@...> wrote:

> Alobar wrote:

> > There are no easy web references I can point to as I have been doing

> > research now for over 6 years and keep making adjustments as I find

> > more info.

> >

> Nevertheless thank you very much indeed for your insights and

> willingness to share.

> > Once my sweet tooth was tamed and I no longer cheated on my diet, and

> > went very low carb, got rid of most veggie oils other than olive oil,

> > then began using coconut oil daily, I had less and less reason to

> > snack or have very big meals. Taking lots of fiber with meals also

> > cut back on my wanting huge portions. Omega 3 fish oils have been

> > very important to me for both reversing insulin resistance, and for

> > arterial health. In the first 2 years I shed 90 pounds with no

> > effort. I suspect if I were heavier, I would have shed more.

> >

> Supplements like these are very expensive here which makes it difficult

> to take in the long run or as a lifestyle change - I keep looking for

> Omega 3 and others though and I live in hope ;-) .

> > Inulin fiber helps make the bowel healthier so one has better nutrient

> > absorption, and this cuts down on overeating too.

> >

> Never heard of that one but I went to

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber. So, where do you get this

> from? Is it a tablet or something. I know I can get Psyllium - will this

> do as well?

> > My legs are not as stable as they were when I was younger, so long

> > walks are not easy. I would go to Walmart at night when it is not

> > crowded and push my shopping basket up and down aisles for an hour or

> > more at a fast walk. Pushing the cart stabilized my shaky legs. I

> > refer to the shopping cart as my " Walmart " .

> >

> Good idea, very inventive. My exercise is walking my dog. I do 4-5 km's

> (about 3 miles) every day - but it's not strenuous walking. Still, it is

> regular in any weather.

> > Diabetics tend to lose muscle mass on soles of feet due to poor

> > circulation, so I glued several layers of cushion and support into my

> > sandals so fast walking does not injure my tender feet.

> >

> Yeah, the kids look at this oap in my bright red and white trainers :-P .

> > Drinking pure water helps lose weight. No soda, no caffeine, no

> > juices. Getting rid of MSG helps curb appetite, so I amke all my food

> > from scratch, and very rarely eat out. I pack my lunch and take it

> > with me when I go to work. Also, no fake sweeteners like aspartame,

> > splenda, etc.

> >

> Are you referring to Monosodium glutamate? I too make all my own food

> and I keep chickens and grow my own veggies - though I don't eat much of

> them (daughter appreciates them though). I don't do sugars and sweets

> nor artificial sweeteners either.

> > Above all, I am in total disagreement with the ADA diet, it is full of

> > carbs, which induce cravings for more carbs. So no bread, pasta,

> > grains, rice, or starchy veggies like corn, potatoes, or beans.

> >

> I am sure you are right and I am fast becoming a convert.

> > Diabetic drugs drop blood sugar levels too much so one gets really

> > hungry for snacks. Once my diet was changed to a regulated low carb

> > diet, I found I could get rid of the diabetic meds. You may need to

> > taper off rather than just quit.

> >

> I am on a pump and it meters my basal needs continually at different

> levels to account for the dawn phenomenon and so on. I administer bolus

> doses with what I think I will need based on my experience. But now I

> have been doing very little if any bolus dosing and staying around 115 -

> 120 anyway. Which is blowing my mind. But I have woken up twice now with

> only 58 so I will be reducing my pumps pre awakening program. It would

> be a dream come true if I could back off some of my meds though I don't

> dare to think about coming off insulin entirely.

> > Vitamins minerals and supplements are important. Vitamin C many times

> > a day until my stool gets too loose, then back off a bit. Initially

> > I needed over an ounce of C every day. Now I am down to 3-5 grams as

> > I have regained health.

> As a young man I was involved in an accident which caused gangrene to my

> small bowel and 3 meters were removed. Whilst I am quite allright and

> fully adjusted a long time ago the above as an indication of dosage

> would not work. How do you know how much C you need - are there any

> guidelines about?

> > I take Benfotiamine (a lip soluble from of

> > Thiamine),

> Is this a medicine or a supplement?

> > Alpha Lipoic Acid and Acetyl L-Canritine three times a day

> > when stomach is empty. Diabetics need more Folic acid than most

> > folks.

> I can't get these, I have tried on previous recommendation but it is

> hopeless.

> > Niacin messes with glucometer readings. I use niacinamide, 6

> > times a day which helps blood glucose control anddoes not mess with

> > glucometer readings.

> >

> Does it really, I have only come across it as an aid for skin problems.

> > Personally, I am very much against all prescription meds. They all

> > mess with internal balance and side effects have long term health

> > consequences. I never took any shrink meds. I never use over the

> > counter pain killers because they weaken stomach, liver, or kidneys

> > when taken long term. Antibiotics I avoid unless my life is in

> > danger. I likewise avoid all prescribed hormones. I do not trust any

> > external regulation of my hormones. I feel that if I eat right and

> > take my vitamins, my body will make the hormones it needs.

> >

> Well, whilst I agree with you in principle I do know that I get very ill

> if I forget to take my meds in the morning, but indeed, I am prepared to

> revisit this as time goes by.

> > I have an old friend who was severely messed up by the docs. She was

> > morbidly obese. The docs hacked out her thyroid and put her on

> > thyroid hormones. She still did not lose weight. Then they did

> > intestinal bypass surgery, which prevented her from absorbing needed

> > nutients. She lost some weight, but her health has been terrible for

> > over 20 years.

> >

> How awful, I am lost for words.........

> > Above all, do your own web research. I read several hours a day on

> > health related issues. A lot of it is bunk. But it did not take me

> > too long to separate the garbage from the useful ideas. There is

> > always more to learn.

> I will, And thank you for your encouragement.

>

> Best wishes

> KJ

>

[Guest guest]

Re: omega 3'e. I hope this is not too far off topic.

In Dr. ' newsletter, Alternatives, he discusses Chia seed. It

has the highest omega 3 content per 100 grams of any other food. It

has a high fiber content, lowers blood pressure, reduces

inflammation, raises HDL, and stabilizes blood sugar. His report is

based on the work of Wayne Coates. His web page, www.arizonachia.com,

has more information on this food. His web site has the best prices.

I am trying the seed to provide more omega 3's to my daily diet, and

no, it will not make your hair grow longer, faster, or make it turn

green.

Mike

> > You are a wise man.

> >

> > Please explain about the Omega 3 lowering BSL?

> >

> >

> > Best Regards Ratliff

> > coconut oil, pick up in Volcan or PC robert.ratliff@...

>

[Guest guest]

I know nothing of chia, but other plant based omega 3s are not as

useful to the human body as fish based omega 3.

Alobar

On 3/7/08, mhill7.rm <mhill7@...> wrote:

> Re: omega 3'e. I hope this is not too far off topic.

>

> In Dr. ' newsletter, Alternatives, he discusses Chia seed. It

> has the highest omega 3 content per 100 grams of any other food. It

> has a high fiber content, lowers blood pressure, reduces

> inflammation, raises HDL, and stabilizes blood sugar. His report is

> based on the work of Wayne Coates. His web page, www.arizonachia.com,

> has more information on this food. His web site has the best prices.

>

> I am trying the seed to provide more omega 3's to my daily diet, and

> no, it will not make your hair grow longer, faster, or make it turn

> green.

>

> Mike

[Guest guest]

Of course he just happens to sell Chia products.

Best Regards Ratliff

Research your nutrition from sites that do not sell the product.

On Friday 07 March 2008 21:15:57 mhill7.rm wrote:

> Re: omega 3'e. I hope this is not too far off topic.

>

> In Dr. ' newsletter, Alternatives, he discusses Chia seed. It

> has the highest omega 3 content per 100 grams of any other food. It

> has a high fiber content, lowers blood pressure, reduces

> inflammation, raises HDL, and stabilizes blood sugar. His report is

> based on the work of Wayne Coates. His web page, www.arizonachia.com,

> has more information on this food. His web site has the best prices.

>

> I am trying the seed to provide more omega 3's to my daily diet, and

> no, it will not make your hair grow longer, faster, or make it turn

> green.

>

> Mike

>

>

> > > You are a wise man.

> > >

> > > Please explain about the Omega 3 lowering BSL?

> > >

> > >

> > > Best Regards Ratliff

> > > coconut oil, pick up in Volcan or PC robert.ratliff@...

>

>