Re: Re: Fw: Dietary advice

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The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the last

2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don’t eat that much now.

My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

Fw: Re: Fw: Dietary advice

but if this is the fasting blood sugar -- how high does she go after she

eats " sugar " or molases.

If she goes above 140 -- she is going too high for someone who is not

" diabetic " .

thea

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What is wrong with a fasting blood sugar of 106? If mine were that

low, I'd be overjoyed!

Alobar

On 2/27/08, thea <HYPERLINK

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> since your blood sugar was 106 - I would forget the black strap -- as it

will raise that sugar even more. You may be just to the point of becoming

diabetic -- instead of watching the oil in the diet - you might be better

served to watch how many carbs are going in - and what type of man-made food

you are eating. Natural as much as possible is better to control the

diabetic aspect.

> thea

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Potatoes would become a no-no food. As would bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Alobar

On 2/27/08, Virginia Leonard <breckrider@...> wrote:

> The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the last

> 2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don't eat that much now.

> My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

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Joan,

Where did you get that information? I’d like to get a copy.

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Some people do seem to be more sensitive to potatoes. However, if you are

going to do carohydrate counting, 1/2 c. potatoes count as 1 carbohydrate

exchange. 1/3 c, rice or pasta counts as 1 carbohydratre serving. 1 slice

bread is 1 carbohydrate serving. 1 carbohydrate serving has 15 grams of

carbohydrate. Most people are allowed maybe 4 carbohydrates at a meal. So

1/2 c. potatoes, 1/2 c. green peas, 1 apple, and 1/2 c. corn would be 4

carbohydrates. Along with that, you can have 2-3 oz. of protein such as fish

or chicken, a bunch of low calorie vegetables such as a salad with tomatoes,

and some mixed vegetables such as onion,bell pepper, and carrots. Most

people don't eat this healthy. Or, could have one cup of rice and one apple

and that would still be 4 carbohydrates.

Joan

Joan

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Potatoes would become a no-no food. As would bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Alobar

On 2/27/08, Virginia Leonard <HYPERLINK

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> The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the

last

> 2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don't eat that much now.

> My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

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Basically a low carb diet right?

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Potatoes would become a no-no food. As would bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Alobar

On 2/27/08, Virginia Leonard <HYPERLINK

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> The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the

last

> 2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don't eat that much now.

> My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

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Some people do seem to be more sensitive to potatoes. However, if you are going

to do carohydrate counting, 1/2 c. potatoes count as 1 carbohydrate exchange.

1/3 c, rice or pasta counts as 1 carbohydratre serving. 1 slice bread is 1

carbohydrate serving. 1 carbohydrate serving has 15 grams of carbohydrate.

Most people are allowed maybe 4 carbohydrates at a meal. So 1/2 c. potatoes,

1/2 c. green peas, 1 apple, and 1/2 c. corn would be 4 carbohydrates. Along

with that, you can have 2-3 oz. of protein such as fish or chicken, a bunch of

low calorie vegetables such as a salad with tomatoes, and some mixed vegetables

such as onion,bell pepper, and carrots. Most people don't eat this healthy.

Or, could have one cup of rice and one apple and that would still be 4

carbohydrates.

Joan

Joan

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Potatoes would become a no-no food. As would bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Alobar

On 2/27/08, Virginia Leonard <breckrider@...> wrote:

> The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the last

> 2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don't eat that much now.

> My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

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Carbs are poison for diabetics. I limit carbs as much as possible.

I would not recomment carbs even to non-diabetcs. Do a google on

" advanced glycation endproducts "

Alobar

On 2/28/08, Virginia Leonard <breckrider@...> wrote:

> Basically a low carb diet right?

>

>

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I have not been to a doctor in over 6 years. I do not trust them, and

my money is far better spent of healthy foods, vitamins, and

supplements.

When I was going to the doc, she sent me to a class led by a

dietician. The dieticians wanted me to take a high carb diet, which,

IMO, is just plain nuts. Many of the so-called diabetic complications

sure seem to me to arise from high blood glucose levels, and from the

" side effects " of diabetic meds. Which is why I control my blood

sugar with a low carb diet and take no diabetic meds.

The hospital dietician who gave the class I attended informed us that

almost all diabetics eventually die from diabtic complications. With

those odds, it seemed to me I was far better off doing my own research

and figuring out my own way to deal with diabetes. If I am still

here in another 20 years with liver, kidneys and heart working fine, I

guess I will be able to say my way is better. Until then, low carb is

just my opinion.

Likewise, I do not trust much of the material I have read on the ADA website.

I knew someone diagnosed with diabetes the same year as I was (2001)

who was a bit younger than me. I was born in 1945. He took his meds,

followed the ADA diet, and he died in 2005. I have managed to reverse

much diabetic neuropathy (which the doc told me is not possible) and

it is now easier to get a drop of blood from my finger than it was

several years ago, so it seems to me that my peripheral circulation is

probably improving. So it seems to me that my approach is showing

benefits.

Alobar

On 2/29/08, susieQ <Susieq@...> wrote:

> Hmmm.

>

> I'm a registered dietitan with over 30 years of experience with a Master's

> degree in nutrition. It was all in my head because I give out this

> information almost daily.

>

> If you are diabetic, then your doctor should refer you to a registered

> dietitian for a complete diabetic diet instruction.

> She/he would give you a booklet with all of the exchanges in it (that is

> carbohydrate exchanges) and explain how it works. They would give you a

> pattern based on your needs and your desires for lifestyle. They would

> calculate your nutrition needs in order to figure the best level for you.

> They would also discuss what to do on sick days, side effects of

> uncontrolled diabetes i.e. effect on wound healing, eyes, nerves, the

> kidneys, etc. High glucose levels can also increase the incidence of poor

> wound healing and increase the changes of amputations. Also, how to

> compensate carbohydrate needs for various exercise levels depending on

> starting glucose levels. We have an extremely high rate of End Stage Renal

> Disease patients on hemodialysis here because the patients did not get the

> nutrition education they needed when they were diagnosed, or they have

> kidney failure due to uncontrolled hypertension.

> This is also due to a lack of education.

>

> Also, you can go to the web site for the American Diabetes Association for

> further information. The American Dietetic Association has information on

> basic nutrition. The American Diabetic Associaiton has a wonderful magazine

> that they put out for members monthly. It has recipes, stories about

> members, the latest information on research or side effects of uncontrolled

> diabetes. In the back of the magazine, they have advertisements for

> diabetic supplies that one can obtain cheaper than locally usually.

>

> The diabetic exchange sytem has the overall carbohydrate content and

> exchanges of various foods. I believe you can order that from either ADA

> group, however, I really believe that it is helpful to get a thorough diet

> instruction from a registered dietitian instead of just being handed some

> sheets of paper where you have to try to figure it out for yourself.

>

> Joan

>

>

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Thanks. As of right now, I have not been diagnosed as a diabetic but have

an additional test scheduled for Tuesday.

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Hmmm.

I'm a registered dietitan with over 30 years of experience with a Master's

degree in nutrition. It was all in my head because I give out this

information almost daily.

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Hmmm.

I'm a registered dietitan with over 30 years of experience with a Master's

degree in nutrition. It was all in my head because I give out this

information almost daily.

If you are diabetic, then your doctor should refer you to a registered

dietitian for a complete diabetic diet instruction.

She/he would give you a booklet with all of the exchanges in it (that is

carbohydrate exchanges) and explain how it works. They would give you a

pattern based on your needs and your desires for lifestyle. They would

calculate your nutrition needs in order to figure the best level for you.

They would also discuss what to do on sick days, side effects of

uncontrolled diabetes i.e. effect on wound healing, eyes, nerves, the

kidneys, etc. High glucose levels can also increase the incidence of poor

wound healing and increase the changes of amputations. Also, how to

compensate carbohydrate needs for various exercise levels depending on

starting glucose levels. We have an extremely high rate of End Stage Renal

Disease patients on hemodialysis here because the patients did not get the

nutrition education they needed when they were diagnosed, or they have

kidney failure due to uncontrolled hypertension.

This is also due to a lack of education.

Also, you can go to the web site for the American Diabetes Association for

further information. The American Dietetic Association has information on

basic nutrition. The American Diabetic Associaiton has a wonderful magazine

that they put out for members monthly. It has recipes, stories about

members, the latest information on research or side effects of uncontrolled

diabetes. In the back of the magazine, they have advertisements for

diabetic supplies that one can obtain cheaper than locally usually.

The diabetic exchange sytem has the overall carbohydrate content and

exchanges of various foods. I believe you can order that from either ADA

group, however, I really believe that it is helpful to get a thorough diet

instruction from a registered dietitian instead of just being handed some

sheets of paper where you have to try to figure it out for yourself.

Joan

Re: Re: Fw: [coconut_oil_-open_forum] Dietary advice

Potatoes would become a no-no food. As would bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Alobar

On 2/27/08, Virginia Leonard <HYPERLINK

" mailto:breckrider%40comcast.net " breckridercomcast (DOT) -net> wrote:

> The doc has ordered the H1C to see what my sugar has been doing for the

last

> 2 months. I have no problem giving up sugar. I don't eat that much now.

> My problem is potatoes and Mexican food. I love it.

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