Re: hi blood sugars caused by Glucosamine

October 26, 2006

Thanks for your info Alobar...

I have read the science journal in your given link

and note that Glucosamine Sulfate increasing blood

sugar level.

I consume a supplement for joint improving contains

Glucosamine Hydrochloride (plus Chondroitin Sulfate

and MSM). Does anyone could tell me whether this

Glucosamine Hydrochloride also cause the same as

Glucosamine Sulfate ?

Rone...

--- Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

> When I stopped taking glucosomine, it was much

> easier to maintain

> blood sugar control. See quote below.

>

> Alobar

>

> " Glucosamine can increase fasting blood sugar levels

> and worsen

> glucose tolerance.

>

> " These side effects occur because glucosamine

> activates a metabolic

> pathway in the body that leads to the deterioration

> of

> insulin-producing cells in the pancreas and causes

> insulin resistance,

> two factors associated with diabetes. "

>

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/arthritis/a/Glucosamine.htm

>

> On 10/22/06, icuplaynow <jo-jimochs@...>

> wrote:

> > I read in the peopels pharmacy today that

> Chondroitin and Glucosamine

> > can cause the readings to be high , has anyone

> heard of thsi ? maybe it

> > was those two and not the CO that was giving me hi

> reads>> ??

> >

>

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October 28, 2006

The study said it 'can' increase..meaning it may increase it.

My pain that is reduced by Glucosamine means i will be taking it for

the rest of my life.

The transformation in my back and knee problems because of this element

means I will never be leaving my diet. It changed my back problems to

a great degree.So I have to do something about the sugar increase

danger.

Exercise:trains muscles to use insulin properly.This is why its highly

recomended to people with diabetes. People who dont exercise are in

danger of their muscles not knowing how to use insulin and have

problems in stabilising it.

Coconut oil/products reduce insulin production.

Cinnamon helps to stabilise blood sugar levels.

Chana Dal Bean/Besan...which is a bean/flour has one of the lowest GI's

out there and helps diabetics to stabilise bloods sugar levels and in a

lot of people bring it down. Do not confuse this with chick peas..it

is NOT the same thing,though some people say it is the same. ITS NOT

the same. So if you want the benifits of Chana,you have to make sure

you get the right one.

I put the flour in Non gluten pancake/bread mixes and put the beans in

curries etc. Im going to try them in homus instead of chick peas to see

how it goes.

October 28, 2006

Research CMO, my friend with knee pain/impending

surgery started it with fantastic results.

--- k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> The study said it 'can' increase..meaning it may

> increase it.

> My pain that is reduced by Glucosamine means i will

> be taking it for

> the rest of my life.

> The transformation in my back and knee problems

> because of this element

> means I will never be leaving my diet. It changed

> my back problems to

> a great degree.So I have to do something about the

> sugar increase

> danger.

October 28, 2006

Glucosomine can also destroy your beta cells. Big risk to take,

especially when there are alternatives to explore. I sure don't like

playing Russian ROulette with my pancreas at stake.

I found that MSM worked wonders for me. I did not explore further

because that supplement worked, but if it had not, I would have just

kept looking.

Alobar

On 10/28/06, k8teeth <stonesigns@...> wrote:

> The study said it 'can' increase..meaning it may increase it.

> My pain that is reduced by Glucosamine means i will be taking it for

> the rest of my life.

> The transformation in my back and knee problems because of this element

> means I will never be leaving my diet. It changed my back problems to

> a great degree.

October 28, 2006

What the risk is nobody can say with certainty and what that amount is

that causes this problem I cant find. Like to see that.

Glucosamine gives the body the raw materials to repair soft tissue and

cartilage. MSM does not do this from what I have read. It helps the

blood supply around tissue,but does not supply the elements for repair.

Glucosamine also stops enzymes that destroy the cartilage. So its a

double benifit. Rebuilding and stopping destruction.

If blood sugar level are what cause damage to the beta cells,then you

can stabilise that as with diabetes. And it depends on the amount you

take. I take 1 gram one day and 2 the next while making sure that I use

foods that stabilise sugar level because its the sugar levels that

cause the damage not Glucosamine itself. Its trying to find a balance.

October 28, 2006

Hello:

I thought someone said that the Glucosamine destroys the Beta Cells, NOT the

sugar levels. Or have I got that wrong?

I sure wouldn't like to have to stop using the Glucosamine, I wouldn't be able

to walk. But I will if it will keep my Diabetes from getting worse.

Bonnie

Re: hi blood sugars caused by Glucosamine

What the risk is nobody can say with certainty and what that amount is

that causes this problem I cant find. Like to see that.

Glucosamine gives the body the raw materials to repair soft tissue and

cartilage. MSM does not do this from what I have read. It helps the

blood supply around tissue,but does not supply the elements for repair.

Glucosamine also stops enzymes that destroy the cartilage. So its a

double benifit. Rebuilding and stopping destruction.

If blood sugar level are what cause damage to the beta cells,then you

can stabilise that as with diabetes. And it depends on the amount you

take. I take 1 gram one day and 2 the next while making sure that I use

foods that stabilise sugar level because its the sugar levels that

cause the damage not Glucosamine itself. Its trying to find a balance.

October 29, 2006

Apart from VCO, I find one of the most powerful foods for repair is nori,

which is the Japanese seaweed with which they wrap sushi.

Nina

Re: hi blood sugars caused by

Glucosamine

What the risk is nobody can say with certainty and what that amount is

that causes this problem I cant find. Like to see that.

Glucosamine gives the body the raw materials to repair soft tissue and

cartilage. MSM does not do this from what I have read. It helps the

blood supply around tissue,but does not supply the elements for repair.

Glucosamine also stops enzymes that destroy the cartilage. So its a

double benifit. Rebuilding and stopping destruction.

If blood sugar level are what cause damage to the beta cells,then you

can stabilise that as with diabetes. And it depends on the amount you

take. I take 1 gram one day and 2 the next while making sure that I use

foods that stabilise sugar level because its the sugar levels that

cause the damage not Glucosamine itself. Its trying to find a balance.

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October 29, 2006

I didn't read this in a scientific journal, I know it from my own life. It

is a powerful healer of wounds and it is a phenomenal painkiller. I don't

notice anything regarding blood sugar. For blood sugar, once again, the

round and root vegetables are really significant.

Nina

RE: Re: hi blood sugars caused by

Glucosamine

Hi Nina,

Nori helps repair soft tissue/cartilage or the blood

sugar level ??

If what you mean is to helps repair soft tissue &

cartilage, could you tell me where I can find the

scientific journal or research about this ??

Rone...

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October 29, 2006

Hi Nina,

Nori helps repair soft tissue/cartilage or the blood

sugar level ??

If what you mean is to helps repair soft tissue &

cartilage, could you tell me where I can find the

scientific journal or research about this ??

Rone...

--- Nina Moliver <yoganina@...> wrote:

> Apart from VCO, I find one of the most powerful

> foods for repair is nori,

> which is the Japanese seaweed with which they wrap

> sushi.

>

> Nina

>

> Re: hi blood

> sugars caused by

> Glucosamine

>

> What the risk is nobody can say with certainty and

> what that amount is

> that causes this problem I cant find. Like to see

> that.

>

> Glucosamine gives the body the raw materials to

> repair soft tissue and

> cartilage. MSM does not do this from what I have

> read. It helps the

> blood supply around tissue,but does not supply the

> elements for repair.

> Glucosamine also stops enzymes that destroy the

> cartilage. So its a

> double benifit. Rebuilding and stopping destruction.

>

> If blood sugar level are what cause damage to the

> beta cells,then you

> can stabilise that as with diabetes. And it depends

> on the amount you

> take. I take 1 gram one day and 2 the next while

> making sure that I use

> foods that stabilise sugar level because its the

> sugar levels that

> cause the damage not Glucosamine itself. Its trying

> to find a balance.

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October 29, 2006

>

Hi Nina

I only take 400mg of glucosamine for a back and neck problem. I

don't even know if this is enough for the repair that everyone is

talking about. How much nori do you take and can you take it

instead of the glucosamine? I haven't noticed it doing any good

anyway. I am not diabetic and trying to eat a healthier and

healthier diet so do i have to worry about taking it. Forgive my

ignorance but i don't even know what a beta cell is. On this forum

some of these posts do go over my head especially the ones

discussing blood work as it doesn't mean anything.

Sally

> Apart from VCO, I find one of the most powerful foods for repair

is nori,

> which is the Japanese seaweed with which they wrap sushi.

>

> Nina

>

> Re: hi blood sugars caused by

> Glucosamine

>

> What the risk is nobody can say with certainty and what that

amount is

> that causes this problem I cant find. Like to see that.

>

> Glucosamine gives the body the raw materials to repair soft tissue

and

> cartilage. MSM does not do this from what I have read. It helps

the

> blood supply around tissue,but does not supply the elements for

repair.

> Glucosamine also stops enzymes that destroy the cartilage. So its a

> double benifit. Rebuilding and stopping destruction.

>

> If blood sugar level are what cause damage to the beta cells,then

you

> can stabilise that as with diabetes. And it depends on the amount

you

> take. I take 1 gram one day and 2 the next while making sure that

I use

> foods that stabilise sugar level because its the sugar levels that

> cause the damage not Glucosamine itself. Its trying to find a

balance.

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October 29, 2006

Sally,

Nori is a food. Eat it to taste. I sometimes eat up to two full sheets per

day, but that is a very large amount. Many people just tear off a few

strips or slivers and eat it that way.

Nina

Re: hi blood sugars caused by

Glucosamine

>

Hi Nina

I only take 400mg of glucosamine for a back and neck problem. I

don't even know if this is enough for the repair that everyone is

talking about. How much nori do you take and can you take it

instead of the glucosamine? I haven't noticed it doing any good

anyway. I am not diabetic and trying to eat a healthier and

healthier diet so do i have to worry about taking it. Forgive my

ignorance but i don't even know what a beta cell is. On this forum

some of these posts do go over my head especially the ones

discussing blood work as it doesn't mean anything.

Sally

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October 29, 2006

> >

> Hi Nina

>

> I only take 400mg of glucosamine for a back and neck problem. I

> don't even know if this is enough for the repair that everyone is

> talking about. How much nori do you take and can you take it

> instead of the glucosamine? I haven't noticed it doing any good

> anyway. I am not diabetic and trying to eat a healthier and

> healthier diet so do i have to worry about taking it. Forgive my

> ignorance but i don't even know what a beta cell is. On this forum

> some of these posts do go over my head especially the ones

> discussing blood work as it doesn't mean anything.

>

> Sally

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October 29, 2006

Hi,

I just joined this forum group and find it most enlightening. Thanks

to all of you.

Where can you purchase Nori?

Thanks, Gloria