Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 well i have as slew of info ( not online though IAm sure I could find it) that negates these statements this is not a fad or just a juice, everyone has thier favorites or their likes and dislikes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work, it's just like diets. what works for one won't work for another. that is why there are so many different ways of eating. Stuck [lists] Re: Mangosteen Ralph Moss calls Mangosteen expensive fruit juice, and I tend to agree. Fruit juice taken regularly does tend to help many ailments because of the antioxidant content. Mangosteen networkers, particularly Xango networkers, tend to associate the product with a test tube study that showed cancer reduction, which as Dr. Moss points out doesn't translate to real life, in-vivo work. There are Mangosteen juices that have 11 times the manostins that Xango has in any case, for the same price. The short answer it that's it's another fad antioxidant-rich food, and you're better off with undenatured whey, which contains NECESSARY antioxidant components and HAS been shown to reduce cancer in humans in in-vivo studies. The data is on this page: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html Duncan On 26 Dec 2006 at 8:43, Coconut Oil wrote: > Recent Activity a.. 27New Members b.. 1New Links c.. 2New Files Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Stuck, Beware of " infomation " coming from people selling a particular product unless it is backed up with real life scientific studies. Yes, we do have different needs, but there are snake oild salesmen who make all sorts of health claims for their products. Alobar On 12/26/06, Stuck <Sstuck@...> wrote: > well i have as slew of info ( not online though IAm sure I could find it) that negates these statements this is not a fad or just a juice, everyone has thier favorites or their likes and dislikes, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work, it's just like diets. what works for one won't work for another. that is why there are so many different ways of eating. > Stuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 yes i am not dumb, this isn't word of mouth, and y ou can find a lot of junk on anything you want to, or good. it depends on your view. I mean look at religion. just as an example i don't wantto go there, just tht there a lot of different views on the same thing. some views work for person A but person Z doesn't agree at all. no matter what the issue. Thanks for the warning but not needed. I do believe Mangosteen helps a lot of ailments, i am ot sure about the xango juice. why mix it with a bunch of other stuff? Stuck --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0662-2, 12/26/2006 Tested on: 12/26/2006 8:59:49 PM avast! - copyright © 2000-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 To me, Duncan is a very good example of someone who sells products AND gives loads of links to research materials to back up what he says. When I first bumped into Duncan, some years ago, on another list, I admit I was supicious. I had bumped into so many people selling things with little or no value, or which are (imo) grossly overpriced. But I read Duncan's posts and his website. Separating the wheat from the chaff is a something I do daily in my quest for better health as I age. I looked at the references Duncan gave. Over time, my suspicions were laid to rest. I came to both trust and greatly appreciate what Duncan does and the ways in which he shares his knowledge. I don't use a lot of supplement products which Duncan sells, mainly because I lack the money to buy them. But I do copy useful health, diet, and supplement information so I have the information handy when I need to look something up to give to a friend who is having health problems, or for when I have a little free cash which enables me to try a new supplement. I already spend over $10/day on many different supplements, so adding more is not something I feel I can do without a great amount of consideration. Some other sellers of supplements have websites which are mainly " testimonials " from users which may, or may not, be based in scientific fact. Some sites which are selling a product cite research done on cell samples in a testube or petri plate (in-vitro testing). While this can point the direction for further exploration, it may or may not apply to living breathing human beings. Testing the product on live subjects (in-vivo testing) is needed before any real claims can be made as to how effective a product may be. The sites which lose credibility, IMO, are the sites which make all sorts of claims about a product based upon in-vitro testing, with no in-vivo studies to back them up. And yet, sometimes even those sites based in testimonials or in-vitro based health claims contain useful information which nudge me to try that particular supplement. MSM is a good example. I tried MSM. It really helped my arthritis. So I keep using it, even though the people I buy from have a website which is leaded down with personal testimonials and editorial comments by the man who started the website. See here: http://www.bulkmsm.com/competition/research/msm/msm3.htm Alobar On 12/27/06, Sally <sally.hoffman@...> wrote: > > > > > Stuck, > > Beware of " infomation " coming from people selling a particular product > > > You mean like Duncan? Every opportunity he is promoting SomaLife or > whey. Why should we believe him over others? Can't you get > Glutathione from eating lots of green veg? Do we really need to buy > whey? Yet another product we would have to buy on a regular basis > because apparently we can't do without it! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I didn't say that. Stuck [lists] Re: Mangosteen > > Stuck, > Beware of " infomation " coming from people selling a particular product > You mean like Duncan? Every opportunity he is promoting SomaLife or whey. Why should we believe him over others? Can't you get Glutathione from eating lots of green veg? Do we really need to buy whey? Yet another product we would have to buy on a regular basis because apparently we can't do without it! --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0663-0, 12/27/2006 Tested on: 12/27/2006 5:31:57 PM avast! - copyright © 2000-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I don't sell it I don't even use it, i had just tried it once and wondered if anyone else had. Stuck --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0663-0, 12/27/2006 Tested on: 12/27/2006 9:11:17 PM avast! - copyright © 2000-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 I agree. Duncan and I have been emailing over some of my problems. If he was trying to sell something he would insist on me buying the product he recomends. But he doesnt. and anything he does,he does so because of evidence..nothing else. I live in Australia and shipping to here is a pain esp from the US. So I tell him what I can get and then he says that it should be like this or that to be effective. He isnt trying to sell anything only share what he knows...and for no money. How many people really share these days ? Not many,thats for shore. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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