Re: ADD again

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

What an excellent slant on the ADD problem.

It has been my thought for a long time that ADD is an excuse for schools to

drug the non traditional student into sitting still for long periods of time

When he was in the fourth grade our son was " diagnosed " by the public school

he attended as ADD. When I suggested that we take him to our doctor for a

second opinion the school went into a panic. Today I would have told them

what they could do with their drugs, but then I was still too timid to

resist.

When we went to the school's pet doctor he sat in front of him and

patiently explained all the " good " things the drug Ritalin would do for him.

We filled the prescription only the first time. The boy was not a bother at

home. And if he had been properly challenged in school he would not have

been a problem there, either.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

Duncan said: " ADD and ADHD can be viewed as a toxin problem, and cell

miscommunication.

I've heard several

excellent reports, from nurses, about using the Mannatech product

Ambrotose to reduce the severity of the ADD almost to normal in a few

months. "

The question here, is, what is " normal " ? ADD is not necessarily a problem. I

believe that diet CAN help ADD people to contain their energy and stop them

bouncing off the walls but I think the greatest help is forothers to

recognise that it is also a a cerytain temperament which will remain even

after all the treatments etc. ADD children are often highly creative,

out-of-the-box thinkers and sometimes the " problem " is just that they cannot

fit into the established situations they are supposed to fit into - such as

regular school. The more they are seen as a problem, the more they behave

that way.

If they are properly understood and if the teacher/parent is able to channel

that tremendous drive and energy in the right direction they can be

marvellous, and many ADD people can achieve fantastic things once they grow

up. Or they can become criminals and drug addicts.

Our son drove us crazy for several years and I can honsetly say it's a

miracle he survived his teens - he was always taking risks and seemd to

thrive on the most outlandish schemes. NOw he is 18 he is not only sensible,

he understands himself, likes himself the way he is and would not change it

for the world he shows promiose of going very far - even though he left

school at 17 and did not go to university as we would have hoped - he

certainly has the ability but lacks the patience to survuve a classroom

situation. For me the greatest help came when i ceased to see him as a

problem and began to believe in him - believe that there is so much more

beneath the surface and that by seeing the good in him he would change -

not by fitting in, but by becoming uniquely himself, in a good, creative

way. As indeed he did.

These children just do not fit into a typical classroom situation. They

should either be homeschooled, or be put into schools where the teachers

can understand and properly guide them.

Diet can really only be a periphery support - they will never become

patient, quiet, down-to-earth citizens. We need all kinds on this earth, and

these children have much to contribute - if we let them!

So this strayed from the original question of coconut oil a bit - my son

continues to take it because he believes in it but he knows now how to

direct the energy that comes from it. That might not be so easy with

younger child.

What helped me the most was the websute www.borntoexplore.org, and the

books: Thom Hartman's Attention Deficit Disorder : A Different Perception

and Right brained children in a left-brained world: unlocking the potential

of your ADD child.

by Freed.

regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Glad you agree! My son took Ritalin for about a year and it helped him fit into

the classroom. But finally he gave it up - he said it killed everything that was

alive in him.

Have you read the books I mentioned? They really changed my perspective on the

" problem " and helped me to help him - as well as that website.

Sharon

RE: ADD again

Sharon,

What an excellent slant on the ADD problem.

It has been my thought for a long time that ADD is an excuse for schools to

drug the non traditional student into sitting still for long periods of time

When he was in the fourth grade our son was " diagnosed " by the public school

he attended as ADD. When I suggested that we take him to our doctor for a

second opinion the school went into a panic. Today I would have told them

what they could do with their drugs, but then I was still too timid to

resist.

When we went to the school's pet doctor he sat in front of him and

patiently explained all the " good " things the drug Ritalin would do for him.

We filled the prescription only the first time. The boy was not a bother at

home. And if he had been properly challenged in school he would not have

been a problem there, either.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

Duncan said: " ADD and ADHD can be viewed as a toxin problem, and cell

miscommunication.

I've heard several

excellent reports, from nurses, about using the Mannatech product

Ambrotose to reduce the severity of the ADD almost to normal in a few

months. "

The question here, is, what is " normal " ? ADD is not necessarily a problem. I

believe that diet CAN help ADD people to contain their energy and stop them

bouncing off the walls but I think the greatest help is forothers to

recognise that it is also a a cerytain temperament which will remain even

after all the treatments etc. ADD children are often highly creative,

out-of-the-box thinkers and sometimes the " problem " is just that they cannot

fit into the established situations they are supposed to fit into - such as

regular school. The more they are seen as a problem, the more they behave

that way.

If they are properly understood and if the teacher/parent is able to channel

that tremendous drive and energy in the right direction they can be

marvellous, and many ADD people can achieve fantastic things once they grow

up. Or they can become criminals and drug addicts.

Our son drove us crazy for several years and I can honsetly say it's a

miracle he survived his teens - he was always taking risks and seemd to

thrive on the most outlandish schemes. NOw he is 18 he is not only sensible,

he understands himself, likes himself the way he is and would not change it

for the world he shows promiose of going very far - even though he left

school at 17 and did not go to university as we would have hoped - he

certainly has the ability but lacks the patience to survuve a classroom

situation. For me the greatest help came when i ceased to see him as a

problem and began to believe in him - believe that there is so much more

beneath the surface and that by seeing the good in him he would change -

not by fitting in, but by becoming uniquely himself, in a good, creative

way. As indeed he did.

These children just do not fit into a typical classroom situation. They

should either be homeschooled, or be put into schools where the teachers

can understand and properly guide them.

Diet can really only be a periphery support - they will never become

patient, quiet, down-to-earth citizens. We need all kinds on this earth, and

these children have much to contribute - if we let them!

So this strayed from the original question of coconut oil a bit - my son

continues to take it because he believes in it but he knows now how to

direct the energy that comes from it. That might not be so easy with

younger child.

What helped me the most was the websute www.borntoexplore.org, and the

books: Thom Hartman's Attention Deficit Disorder : A Different Perception

and Right brained children in a left-brained world: unlocking the potential

of your ADD child.

by Freed.

regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

No, I haven't read those books. This was about 25 years ago. My son is now

38 (WOW! Where does the time go?)

Judith Alta .

-----Original Message-----

Glad you agree! My son took Ritalin for about a year and it helped him fit

into the classroom. But finally he gave it up - he said it killed everything

that was alive in him.

Have you read the books I mentioned? They really changed my perspective on

the " problem " and helped me to help him - as well as that website.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

IMO - A mention that stuck with me while reading about our strong

willed children - These children are perfectly normal just the way

they are - it's the rest of the children that are slow.

Down with giving ritalin to children forever.

>No, I haven't read those books. This was about 25 years ago. My son is now

>38 (WOW! Where does the time go?)

>

>Judith Alta .

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

>Glad you agree! My son took Ritalin for about a year and it helped him fit

>into the classroom. But finally he gave it up - he said it killed everything

>that was alive in him.

>Have you read the books I mentioned? They really changed my perspective on

>the " problem " and helped me to help him - as well as that website.

>Sharon

>

[Guest guest]

I loved your email on ADD Sharon. Caitlin Lorraine

[Guest guest]

(For those who receive the messeages per email, this is a near-

duplicate - I had to delete the last one because I could not stand

the typo " hunter's " when it was supposed to be " hunters " !)

Thank you! At one point it was important for me to redefine my

son's " problem " .

According to Thom Hartman, ADD children are " hunters " in

a " farmer's " world. To

hunt well in a primitive society, it is necessary to constantly

monitor the

environment, to thow oneself completely into the hunt, be flexible

and change

strategy instantaneously, think visually, throw a high level of

energy into the

hunt, and willingly face danger. ADD is an ordinary variation, not a

disorder,

he says, and once you understand that basic premise the rest becomes

easy -

well, almost!

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

> Duncan said: " ADD and ADHD can be viewed as a toxin problem, and cell

> miscommunication. I've heard several excellent reports, from nurses, about

> using the Mannatech product Ambrotose to reduce the severity of the ADD

> almost to normal in a few months. "

>

> The question here, is, what is " normal " ? ADD is not necessarily a problem.

I think an important point to make here is that if toxin load is causing

some of the symptoms common to ADD it should be taken care of. Toxin load

causes more than just those symptoms, like reduced cellular oxygenation,

which inhibits all cellular function and for example, is a situation that

courts cancer. Toxin load also is one of the causes of arteriosclerosis.

AND correct cell communication is important to normal function including

toxin removal, immune system, growth and repair, etc...

Poor nutrition, particularly, mineral deficiency and b-vitamin deficiency

can also cause those symptoms, as can electromagnetic interference.

Because much EMF is of the 60-cycle variety, which causes cell

proliferation in cancer, it's also worth a look.

So where those symptoms are from an external cause, particularly toxin

load and poor nutrition, it's healthier I think you'd agree to deal with,

or at least know, the cause. Sure, " natural " ADD may not be a problem (if

there is such a thing).

regards,

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan!

In no way was I trying to ignore the importamnce of reducing toxins - I think we

should ALL try to reduce toxins as much as possible!

What I meant was that toxins, certain foods, and indeed, it seems, even coconut

oil - can at the most emphasize certain " symptoms " associated with ADD such as

lack of attention, high energy etc. Also , we need to distinguish between ADD

and ADHD - the " hyper " part of ADHD is perhaps that caused by toxins, junk food

etc?

My son was not ADHD - I know these kids are often completely out of control and

are like little hurricanes. This is the area where diet etc can perhaps help the

most, in that they reduce thw unwanted behaiour.

What I am saying is that one should not expect to take a " normal " ADD child such

as my son, feed him the perfect toxin-free diet, and expect himto become a nice,

quiet, amenable, " normal " child. Whatever his diet, he would ALWAYS be a

challenge to any teacher who expects and demands disciplined, obedient children

who learn by rote in an organised, linear manner.

Because that's what his temperament is; and diet is not going to change that.

They have a certain learning style which is not fulfilled in most regular

schools, which is what makes them misfits and problems.

A toxin-free diet might have a calming effect but it won't change the basic

problem - which is usually not with the child, but with the teachers inability

to cope with this kind of temperament. I know that when my son changed schools

and found teachers who went WITH his enormous energy instead of against it there

was not one single problem.

Sharon