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DLarrechea@... wrote:

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> From: DLarrechea@...

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> POR FAVOR SI PUEDES ESCRIBIR EN ESPANOL.

> MUCHAS GRACIAS.

> DANIEL LARRECHEA

>

> Dan,

On the next issue of LPA today please change my name from Jill Hanel to

Jill . I got married over Labor Day weekend. Also, send the LPA

today to this address.

and Jill

1803 New Bethel Church Road

Garner, NC 27529

Thanks,

Jill

Colonial Chapter Vice President

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In a message dated 11/11/99 1:41:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kitties@... writes:

<< Well there's no politicking going on here is there....not. This is why I

(since I can't speak for anyone but me) am hesitant to join LPA.

Karin Redston >>

Karin:

That's ok that you spoke up and glad that you did. :-)

While I'm glad that LPA exists and I have met some neat friends from joining.

I too like Karin without speaking for anyone else except myself am

unfortunately hesitant to rejoin for reasons I do not wish to debate about.

I will say this I just wish somethings would change in the organization.

Helen

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Thank you for your support and for explaining this.

====================================

In a message dated 11/11/99 7:52:21 AM, H414 writes:

<< Rick -

I need to clear the air on something and do it now ...

Your concerns with about getting out three issues of LPA Today this

year (and one more before the end of 1999) should really be directed to me

.... not to . The decision to release 4 issues in 1999 was a move I

made (after discussion with a number of people) while closely monitoring our

year-end (1999) cash flow because dues are (predictably) at a low point at

this time of the year. Therefore, our cash flow is low at this time of the

year also. had plans to issue more newsletters, but in view of the

need to not over-expend our available cash this year, he agreed to go with

four issues for 1999.

The dues increase from $25 to $30 should be directed to me also. I made the

recommendation (after much internal study, calculations, and discussion), it

was published in LPA Today (as required) and the rest is history. I believe

his comments reflected his support for the decision that was made by

encouraging members to renew, given this modest increase ... the first

increase in about 13 years, I believe.

I hope this makes some sense. I wanted you to know what went on behind the

scenes on all of this. In summary, was working within his agreed-to

budget constraints for the 1999 year. I have really appreciated the quality

that has put into his work this year. The quantity of issues,

however, is something that I have some control over (after discussion with

and others) and those complaints should probably be directed to me,

not .

Thanks for hearing me out.

Hagen

Vice President of Finance >>

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Helen

Nothing's perfect people. And it's not a black and white world

either. There's a lot of grey.

Craig

I understand your point Craig, but I wonder how much grey?

With that I'm mentioning something that occurred awhile back while I was a

member.

I joined the organization back in '84. My dad wasn't the chief executive of

the company where he had worked at, but was very good at his profession. He

also was a very friendly, well known, hard working human being. People knew

him whether they were a state senator, producer of a late night talk show,

owner of a mom and pop store, construction worker, the list goes on and on.

In fact where he worked which was a large pharmaceutical company they

dedicated a new building in his honor with a plaque because my Dad had died

and at this large company where he worked they loved him a great deal. My

Dad has been gone now for nine years. He unfortunately was murdered at one

of the many other jobs he had.

The point I'm bringing up is that my Dad was a person who thought of others

and would help out when he can. He wanted to help out LPA by donating a

photocopier that someone else was responsible in taking care of. Due to

circumstances beyond my Dad's control there was a problem with it that had

nothing to do on my dad's part.

Well, to make a long story short certain people complained about it publicly

and referencing it for a while without thinking about the situation

intelligently and without giving the proper appreciation to my Dad who was

trying to do a good deed.

With that and some other things that I wish would change makes me just wonder

about rejoining that's all.

Helen

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On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, home place wrote:

> From: kd1219@... (home place)

>

> I totally agree with you Rick. I was basically told it was MY fault I

> did not receive any newsletters etc because I did not renew my

> membership on time!!

This reply (from whoever - since they didn't sign their name)

baffles me....

Do people actually expect to receive newsletters even though

they aren't paid members of LPA?

Yes, if you didn't renew your membership on time, you're not

a paid member.

That's the way the world works.

confused,

Craig

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Craig | Austin, TX | dcm@...

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On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 HelenJW@... wrote:

> I will say this I just wish somethings would change in the organization.

>

> Helen

Same here, but I've said that about EVERY organization that I've

ever been associated with. All organizations have:

Politics.

People who don't get along.

A number of people that I didn't like.

People who complain about the group, but don't spend

the time to make it better.

But the good things always outweigh the bad, at least with the

groups I stayed with.

In LPA's case the good things FAR outweigh the bad. The information,

social contacts, etc are excellent.

Nothing's perfect people. And it's not a black and white world

either. There's a lot of grey.

Craig

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Kudos on a magnificent LPA Today!!! I jjust received it yesterday and I

enjoyed it tremendously...the diverse articles as well as the pictures from

Portland of various people. It was just a beautiful issue.

Thanks for your much appreciated dedication to the newsletter,

Sincerely,

Masterson

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Ricky, Ricky, Ricky,

First, you need to learn how to relax. I know you feel I did something

terrible by asking people to renew their membership in LPA on time, but

letting it get to you like this is not healthy.

As far as being editor is concerned, the Executive Committee has a full

report on everything I have done and am doing as editor. I serve at their

pleasure (like all committee appointments), so they can replace me at any

time they feel it would be in the best interest of LPA.

I am not sure I understand why you don't want people to renew their dues in

LPA, but for my part, I stand by my original statement and can only repeat -

<<When you receive your 2000 Membership Renewal Form (at the end of the

year), RENEW ON TIME!!!>>

You are of course free to encourage people not to renew their membership in

LPA, I just happen to disagree with you.

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Dear ,

Thank you for your summary concerning the lack of LPA Today issues. I

remember working with you while I was putting together the Chicago conference

newsletters. I also remember you as being an excellent accountant who

contributed a massive amount of your time and professional expertise to that

very successful conference. It's very encouraging to have you in LPA's

financial driver's seat.

While I understand that you are trying to stave off the bottoming out of

our finances, you stopped short of explaining exactly why LPA is suffering

from a cash shortage.

Isn't it true that LPA has run into this cash crunch because editor

Margulies is charging LPA a projected $43,000 a year to produce four or five

newsletters?

If so, this is a 200% increase in cost just since 1997, when LPA Today's

budget was only $20,000 a year. I know this because that was my budget as

editor. Even then it was the single most expensive item on LPA's debit

column.

Alot of us on the east coast still haven't received this last issue of

LPA Today, so could you confirm whether it's true that we paid Mr. Marguliles

$20,000 for just the first TWO newsletters this year?

I think I might have found the reason we're running out of money.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the intent of the increased dues is

relatively simple: The $5 extra that we're going to have to pay from now on,

(about $20,000+ each year?) is just going into Mr. Margulies' pockets?

Just because we haven't had a dues increase in 13 years, for which our

past Board of Directors and several presidents should be highly commended, it

doesn't mean we need an increase, especially considering that we have

hundreds of members barely earning over the poverty line. And especially

considering the increase is just going to enrich the wallet of the current

editor. You know, there's a reason why a sitting U.S. President can't

voluntarily increase his salary...it's called a conflict of interest.

, please forgive my incredulity, and I write this with all due respect to

your wonderful wisdom, but if the dues increase was your idea, why didn't you

make the obvious, financially-sound, cost-cutting suggestion that LPA just

obtain a less expensive editor?

Rick Eanes

In a message dated 11/11/99 3:52:21 PM, you wrote:

<<Rick -

I need to clear the air on something and do it now ...

Your concerns with about getting out three issues of LPA Today this

year (and one more before the end of 1999) should really be directed to me

.... not to . The decision to release 4 issues in 1999 was a move I

made (after discussion with a number of people) while closely monitoring our

year-end (1999) cash flow because dues are (predictably) at a low point at

this time of the year. Therefore, our cash flow is low at this time of the

year also. had plans to issue more newsletters, but in view of the

need to not over-expend our available cash this year, he agreed to go with

four issues for 1999.

The dues increase from $25 to $30 should be directed to me also. I made the

recommendation (after much internal study, calculations, and discussion), it

was published in LPA Today (as required) and the rest is history. I believe

his comments reflected his support for the decision that was made by

encouraging members to renew, given this modest increase ... the first

increase in about 13 years, I believe.

I hope this makes some sense. I wanted you to know what went on behind the

scenes on all of this. In summary, was working within his agreed-to

budget constraints for the 1999 year. I have really apreciated the quality

that has put into his work this year. The quantity of issues,

however, is something that I have some control over (after discussion with

Danirel and others) and those complaints should probably be directed to me,

not .

Thanks for hearing me out.

Hagen

Vice President of Finance>

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On 11/10/99 22:37:15 you wrote:

>

>From: " Karin Redston " <kitties@...>

>

>Well there's no politicking going on here is there....not. This is why I

>(since I can't speak for anyone but me) am hesitant to join LPA.

>Karin Redston

> Re: LPA Today

>

>

>>From: REanes7777@...

>>

>>,

>>As one of the " everyone else, " I think you have a lot of nerve preaching

>>RENEW ON TIME, as you have barely gotten out three issues of LPA Today in

>11

>>months! As a new employee of LPA, you need to come down off that high

>horse

>>and explain to this membership and its Board of Directors what has been

>>taking so long. I didn't have a spotless record during my tenure, but I

>>didn't display such arrogance of making this membership wait for their

>>newsletter while demanding a membership price increase! LPA will not

>receive

>>$30 a year from members you insult with your lack of remorse. We'll be

>lucky

>>to even see them again.

>>Sincerely,

>>Rick Eanes

>>Former editor of LPA Today

>>(1993 to 1997)

>>

>>In a message dated 11/11/99 1:17:24 AM, Dwarfmail1@... wrote:

>>

>><<Message to you and everyone else - when you receive your 2000 Membership

>>Renewal Form (at the end of the year), RENEW ON TIME, and you will not

miss

>>future issues of LPA Today, or anything else.>>

>>

>>>

>

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On 11/10/99 22:37:15 you wrote:

>

>From: " Karin Redston " <kitties@...>

>

>Well there's no politicking going on here is there....not. This is why I

>(since I can't speak for anyone but me) am hesitant to join LPA.

>Karin Redston

> Re: LPA Today

>

>

>>From: REanes7777@...

>>

>>,

>>As one of the " everyone else, " I think you have a lot of nerve preaching

>>RENEW ON TIME, as you have barely gotten out three issues of LPA Today in

>11

>>months! As a new employee of LPA, you need to come down off that high

>horse

>>and explain to this membership and its Board of Directors what has been

>>taking so long. I didn't have a spotless record during my tenure, but I

>>didn't display such arrogance of making this membership wait for their

>>newsletter while demanding a membership price increase! LPA will not

>receive

>>$30 a year from members you insult with your lack of remorse. We'll be

>lucky

>>to even see them again.

>>Sincerely,

>>Rick Eanes

>>Former editor of LPA Today

>>(1993 to 1997)

>>

>>In a message dated 11/11/99 1:17:24 AM, Dwarfmail1@... wrote:

>>

>><<Message to you and everyone else - when you receive your 2000 Membership

>>Renewal Form (at the end of the year), RENEW ON TIME, and you will not

miss

>>future issues of LPA Today, or anything else.>>

>>

>>>

>

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, (, )

You have misunderstood my original message. Allow me to clarify:

I want people to sign up for LPA and I encourage them to do it as soon as

their finances allow. I wouldn't want them to miss a single issue of LPA

Today. (I invested quite a bit of my own blood, sweat and tears into that

publication myself). There is no organization in America with more built-in

benefits and advantages for LPs than LPA. All of our lives would be much the

poorer if we weren't a part of this great organization.

My issue was with your chastisement of this membership for paying their

dues on time while our newsletters weren't on time.

We all now know, through Hagen's email, that we weren't getting our

newsletters because we are, in effect, running out of money.

So now we have to pony up an extra $20,000 in order to pay our expenses;

namely your salary, because if we don't pay your wages, we don't get our

newsletters.

I can think of several ways to enrich the member's benefits other than

creating a $40,000+ budget for the newsletter.

Many of our members were under the mistaken assumption that you were a

" volunteer " and that your pleas for more money was a noble gesture to raise

LPA revenue. We now know that your pleas for money were self-serving: You

don't make your income if we don't pay on time.

I think it's in extraordinary bad taste to allow the editor to regularly

preach to the membership for more money when the lion's share, $40,000

projected, is going into his pockets.

Please refrain from creating non-issues, such as suggesting that I don't want

members to sign up. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Rick Eanes

In a message dated 11/11/99 9:58:41 PM, Dwarfmail1 wrote:

<<Ricky, Ricky, Ricky,

First, you need to learn how to relax. I know you feel I did something

terrible by asking people to renew their membership in LPA on time, but

letting it get to you like this is not healthy.

As far as being editor is concerned, the Executive Committee has a full

report on everything I have done and am doing as editor. I serve at their

pleasure (like all committee appointments), so they can replace me at any

time they feel it would be in the best interest of LPA.

I am not sure I understand why you don't want people to renew their dues in

LPA, but for my part, I stand by my original statement and can only repeat -

<<When you receive your 2000 Membership Renewal Form (at the end of the

year), RENEW ON TIME!!!>>

You are of course free to encourage people not to renew their membership in

LPA, I just happen to disagree with you.

======================================================

>>

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On 11/13/99 11:48:03 you wrote:

>

>From: REanes7777@...

>

>, (, )

>You have misunderstood my original message. Allow me to clarify:

>

>I want people to sign up for LPA and I encourage them to do it as soon as

>their finances allow. I wouldn't want them to miss a single issue of LPA

>Today. (I invested quite a bit of my own blood, sweat and tears into that

>publication myself). There is no organization in America with more built-

in

>benefits and advantages for LPs than LPA. All of our lives would be much

the

>poorer if we weren't a part of this great organization.

>

> My issue was with your chastisement of this membership for paying their

>dues on time while our newsletters weren't on time.

> We all now know, through Hagen's email, that we weren't getting

our

>newsletters because we are, in effect, running out of money.

> So now we have to pony up an extra $20,000 in order to pay our

expenses;

>namely your salary, because if we don't pay your wages, we don't get our

>newsletters.

> I can think of several ways to enrich the member's benefits other than

>creating a $40,000+ budget for the newsletter.

>

> Many of our members were under the mistaken assumption that you were a

> " volunteer " and that your pleas for more money was a noble gesture to raise

>LPA revenue. We now know that your pleas for money were self-serving: You

>don't make your income if we don't pay on time.

> I think it's in extraordinary bad taste to allow the editor to

regularly

>preach to the membership for more money when the lion's share, $40,000

>projected, is going into his pockets.

>

>Please refrain from creating non-issues, such as suggesting that I don't

want

>members to sign up. Nothing could be further from the truth.

>

>Rick Eanes

>

>

>In a message dated 11/11/99 9:58:41 PM, Dwarfmail1 wrote:

>

><<Ricky, Ricky, Ricky,

>

>First, you need to learn how to relax. I know you feel I did something

>terrible by asking people to renew their membership in LPA on time, but

>letting it get to you like this is not healthy.

>

>As far as being editor is concerned, the Executive Committee has a full

>report on everything I have done and am doing as editor. I serve at their

>pleasure (like all committee appointments), so they can replace me at any

>time they feel it would be in the best interest of LPA.

>

>I am not sure I understand why you don't want people to renew their dues in

>LPA, but for my part, I stand by my original statement and can only repeat

-

><<When you receive your 2000 Membership Renewal Form (at the end of the

>year), RENEW ON TIME!!!>>

>

>You are of course free to encourage people not to renew their membership in

>LPA, I just happen to disagree with you.

>

>

>======================================================

>>>

>

>>

It has always been interesting to me why there has not been a demand for the

annual budget of LPA (with a breakdown of expenses, salaries, donations,

gifts,etc.) to be published yearly. This would at least give our members

insight into the financial structure of the organization and provide a least

a foundation of more trust, which by the way has been sorely lacking for

years. I've never seen such a blantant disregard for financial disclosure by

a non-profit organization in my life. If you want to build trust, you have

to earn it.

Now let me warn you, get ready for the sounds of the ruffled feathers from

our roosters and first-lady hens and a torrent of excuses why this cannot be

done. And the rest of you lackies and silly boys and girls can go hide in

the closet again until it blows over.

Bill Howe

San ,TX

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dear heather,

this isn't really very hard. we want respect. we detest seeing

ourselves shown as elves, leprechauns, clowns, wrestlers and the like. sure

i know it makes a living for a miniscule minority, but gawd, enough is

enough. there came a point when african-americans said no to amos and andy

characters. we need to have self-respect.

the ironic part is i get the most support from parent's of dwarfs who

don't want their children to ever have to settle for such a position in

society. why can't there be more dwarfs who don't want to settle?

this isn't rocket science.

davey lamb

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Okay here's the teacher in me. Davey you've used the word " we " . You are

stating your opinion and not the vast opinion of others. In the future

please say " I " and don't include me and/or other people when you make a

personal response.

And again don't tell others they're loosing self-respect. I have never lost

any self respect from anything I've ever done. And I see how this list is

falling apart, we're all too quick to judge others.

, and all my friends. I'm out of here, this is ridiculous. This is

now officially the insult list of the year.

Judi

Re: LPA Today

> dear heather,

> this isn't really very hard. we want respect. we detest seeing

> ourselves shown as elves, leprechauns, clowns, wrestlers and the like.

sure

> i know it makes a living for a miniscule minority, but gawd, enough is

> enough. there came a point when african-americans said no to amos and

andy

> characters. we need to have self-respect.

> the ironic part is i get the most support from parent's of dwarfs who

> don't want their children to ever have to settle for such a position in

> society. why can't there be more dwarfs who don't want to settle?

> this isn't rocket science.

> davey lamb

>

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From: " donna hughes " <donnamps@h...>

Date: Mon Mar 5, 2001 1:59am

Subject: LPA today

But would any of YOU want the job?

Yes!

Bill, & Kids

Aucott@...

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Hi all,

I am susan from singapore. This is my first time sending email to you all. I am

a chinese and i am only 1.2m tall. Actually i hope to find someone who can chat

with me and we can chat about the diffculties we have in our lives and we can

also comfort each other. When i talk to my friends, they usually encourage me

only. They can't feel how i feel and how i am feeling. i hope to find someone

who can be my friend.:)

Hope to find someone soon.

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That's a great point Ann,

Allot of the District and Chapter Newsletters are now being posted on

websites or as emails to cut costs, so why in the world isn't LPA Today? The

savings would be benificial, to subscribe would be the same as what this

List Serve is. I wonder why National is the last to electronicly send out

the Newsletter?

Rob

____________________________________________________________

LPA Today

>This idea may have already been bought up on previous occasions.. But

>has there ever been any thought, idea or detailed suggestion as to

>taking future issues of LPA Today and printing them as an online

>publication? And with as many experienced web designers as we have

>within LPA..then I personally feel that an idea of this magnitude

>could go far. Also let's face it people, with this being the year

>2001, snail mail newletters are going to be a thing of the past soon

>anyway..and so we've got to keep up with current Information

>Technology advances and keep in tune with this ever-changing computer

>age.

>

>This idea would take the burden off or any future appointed

>LPA Editors and also the costs to put such a publication together

>would be bought down to a minimum. Yes it's true to say that not

>everyone has a computer in their but at the same time, most people

>have 'access' to one, whether it be through a family member, friend

>or public library, college or other public institution. And for

>those who may live out in the 'boonies' per say, then they could

>always get a friend to run a copy off on their own personal printer

>and pass it on to them.

>

>Imagine the costs that would be minimized by LPA Editorialship

>alone? Yes we could still have an LPA Editor and they could have the

>biggest say on what content goes into this kind of online

>publication, but at the same time it would be more of a group

>effort. Sponsor's would include online companies, etc. And although

>I am knowledgable when it comes to computers, the art of web design

>or web authoring itself is not my study of expertise at this point,

>so I would gladly leave that up to the one's on here that are!

>

>Just my two cents worth..Do with it what you may!!

>

> Ann :)

>

>

>

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>

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Thanks Ann:), I just checked with an online currency converter

and since you came from Australia, your 2 cents is only worth 1.066

cents here. So, yer 2 cents is worth a lot less than you thought. LOL!

luv, grady;)

Just my two cents worth.... Do with it what you may!!

Ann :)

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I like to applaud all the people involved in this very sharp looking

informative, well laid out, and well thought out Newsletter. I just

received my LPA TODAY Newsletter yesterday. In fact I sat in the sun and

read several articials. I thought the whole concept of the LPA TODAY

Newsletter had a very Professional look to it. Also it had a lot of

important and interesting columns worth reading.

Thank You all who part taked in this Newsletter...very classy you should

all feel proud of the final product. I think it been a long time coming

to make some small improvements within LPA. I think we need more of

that in years to come in other areas within LPA.

Perhaps in time that will happen if each single member get involved in a

small way to make some over due changes and improvements within the

organization. Also by all of us being involved in a small way not only

are we contributing to a AWESOME organization but we can also have a

better appreciation on what go on behind the scenes shall we say in

order to make such a AWESOME organization that we can be proud of

because we took interest and we gave back what they have given us over

the years when we were teens.

Now it time to give back into the organization by giving up a little

time out of our busy days to help in a small way will make a world of

difference and the results are most definitely rewarding. By watching

carefree smiling teens hanging out with there friends and laughing and

dancing. Allowing us to reflect on the good times we had when we were

teens during these Conventions.

I say this simply because I was involved in helping host the Chicago

Convention and let me say I am glad I had the hands on experience. I

have a better understanding on the enormous hours and days and months

and a YEAR it takes in order to pull off a successful Convention enjoyed

by all. But I have a better appreciation and respect for the LPA

organization all together. And top of it all you meet some incredible

people that are sharp, compassionate people in this organization that

want to make a remember able difference in your life. No doubt about it.

The more people involved the better our individual talents will make a

more organized and a smooth operation within the organization in honor

of Bill Barty to be proud of. It's up to all of us to pull together and

give a little bit back. Allowing this Organization to Shine for the next

generations to come.

That all I have to say...

Cheers!

Michele

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Thanks Michele and to all who have posted compliments about LPA Today.

I couldn't have done it without the support from Matt and the other execs, and

from the contributions of LPA members.

I will soon begin work on the next issue. If anyone is interested, I will

gladly accept submissions of articles and photos. Send them my way.

Thanks again,

-Bill Bradford

LPA Today

LPA TODAY

I like to applaud all the people involved in this very sharp looking

informative, well laid out, and well thought out Newsletter. I just

received my LPA TODAY Newsletter yesterday. In fact I sat in the sun and

read several articials. I thought the whole concept of the LPA TODAY

Newsletter had a very Professional look to it. Also it had a lot of

important and interesting columns worth reading.

Thank You all who part taked in this Newsletter...very classy you should

all feel proud of the final product. I think it been a long time coming

to make some small improvements within LPA. I think we need more of

that in years to come in other areas within LPA.

Perhaps in time that will happen if each single member get involved in a

small way to make some over due changes and improvements within the

organization. Also by all of us being involved in a small way not only

are we contributing to a AWESOME organization but we can also have a

better appreciation on what go on behind the scenes shall we say in

order to make such a AWESOME organization that we can be proud of

because we took interest and we gave back what they have given us over

the years when we were teens.

Now it time to give back into the organization by giving up a little

time out of our busy days to help in a small way will make a world of

difference and the results are most definitely rewarding. By watching

carefree smiling teens hanging out with there friends and laughing and

dancing. Allowing us to reflect on the good times we had when we were

teens during these Conventions.

I say this simply because I was involved in helping host the Chicago

Convention and let me say I am glad I had the hands on experience. I

have a better understanding on the enormous hours and days and months

and a YEAR it takes in order to pull off a successful Convention enjoyed

by all. But I have a better appreciation and respect for the LPA

organization all together. And top of it all you meet some incredible

people that are sharp, compassionate people in this organization that

want to make a remember able difference in your life. No doubt about it.

The more people involved the better our individual talents will make a

more organized and a smooth operation within the organization in honor

of Bill Barty to be proud of. It's up to all of us to pull together and

give a little bit back. Allowing this Organization to Shine for the next

generations to come.

That all I have to say...

Cheers!

Michele

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Growing up the youngest child in the Bradford home was enough to loosen anyone's

screws. :)

-Bill

Re: LPA Today

His brake cables have been loose for years - along with a few other

screws.(:P)

Take it from an older brother.

Randy______

> I think it's a great effort as well.

> on the company car, it's on the way once we loosen the brake

cables... just

> kidding Bill

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