Re: [lists] low carb lifestyle

December 30, 2006

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> I have been on Atkins for over 4 years. I love this lifestyle. I

think that bread, rice and potatoes were becoming big problems for me.

> Well anyway here is a recipe for fettucine Primavera:

>

I tried Atkins years ago and didn't feel good on it. I craved bread

etc. It was no veggies or fruit to begin with either. I thought it

was supposed to be bad for you. Puts stress on kidneys, too much

protein. My sister-in-law who recommended it at the time found it

suited her. It probably has something to do with metabolic/blood

type. I think i'm AB positive and need meat and grains. I'm not

sure if there is any truth in this or it's a load of rubbish. My

husband has been reading alot about carbohydrates and says we don't

need them and it's been proven. I only have porridge, 2 slices of

bread and rice or quinoa, occassionally potatoes. No white carbs. I

could stop eating the potatoes no problem but bread. I was surprised

you had pasta in you receipe, so you can have that can you. Grains

do contain alot of fibre so where do you get that from, just veggies?

Sally

December 30, 2006

Sometimes people who have cadida overgrowth have cravings for carbs.

When I cut them all out, I would sometimes binge on a whole loaf of

fresh french bread in one sitting. After a year or so, the craving

went away. Candida needs sugar to live and causes cravings for

fruit, flour and other carbs.

I have heard about the kidney stress from a ,ow carb diet, but I am

dubious. Many pharmaceutical drugs distress the kidneys and/or the

liver far greatwer than meat ever will, yet the docs never warn about

their drugs being dangerous. To me, it is much saner to get rid of

the drugs and keep the meat.

Alobar

On 12/30/06, Sally <sally.hoffman@...> wrote:

>

> I tried Atkins years ago and didn't feel good on it. I craved bread

> etc. It was no veggies or fruit to begin with either. I thought it

> was supposed to be bad for you. Puts stress on kidneys, too much

> protein.

December 30, 2006

If a diet high in protein caused half the problems that the experts say

that it does, many of us would not have been born. Mankind began as a

hunter gatherer culture which relied primarily from meat, wild berries

and nuts. Many primitive cultures, today, continue to live a hunter

gatherer lifestyle and experience superior health. The Dutch have

recently been recognized as the tallest people in the world. Their high

protein diet and ideal access to medical care has been credited for this

accomplishment.

When I was on the first couple of weeks on Atkins, I ate vegetables and

many of those vegetables are botanically fruit. Then I began adding

other fruit such as berries and cantalope and nuts. I have never had a

hint of kidney or liver problems. However, if your kidneys or liver lack

optimum health then Atkins should done in moderation. Alobar, to go

along with your statement. I agree with your statement about drugs.

In Coconut Oil , Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

> Sometimes people who have cadida overgrowth have cravings for carbs.

> When I cut them all out, I would sometimes binge on a whole loaf of

> fresh french bread in one sitting. After a year or so, the craving

> went away. Candida needs sugar to live and causes cravings for

> fruit, flour and other carbs.

>

> I have heard about the kidney stress from a ,ow carb diet, but I am

> dubious. Many pharmaceutical drugs distress the kidneys and/or the

> liver far greatwer than meat ever will, yet the docs never warn about

> their drugs being dangerous. To me, it is much saner to get rid of

> the drugs and keep the meat.

>

> Alobar

>

> On 12/30/06, Sally sally.hoffman@... wrote:

> >

> > I tried Atkins years ago and didn't feel good on it. I craved bread

> > etc. It was no veggies or fruit to begin with either. I thought it

> > was supposed to be bad for you. Puts stress on kidneys, too much

> > protein.

>

December 30, 2006

For what it's worth, I was at my healthiest,

physically, mentally and emotionally, when following a

very low carb diet: meats, fish, shellfish, leafy

greens, occasional nuts and seeds, occasional cheese.

--- Titus <fluteteacher@...> wrote:

>

> If a diet high in protein caused half the problems

> that the experts say

> that it does, many of us would not have been born.

December 31, 2006

If a diet high in protein caused half the problems that the experts say

that it does, many of us would not have been born. Mankind began as a

hunter gatherer culture which relied primarily from meat, wild berries

and nuts. Many primitive cultures, today, continue to live a hunter

gatherer lifestyle and experience superior health. The Dutch have

recently been recognized as the tallest people in the world. Their high

protein diet and ideal access to medical care has been credited for this

accomplishment.

When I was on the first couple of weeks on Atkins, I ate vegetables and

many of those vegetables are botanically fruit. Then I began adding

other fruit such as berries and cantalope and nuts. I have never had a

hint of kidney or liver problems. However, if your kidneys or liver lack

optimum health then Atkins should done in moderation. Alobar, to go

along with your statement. I agree with your statement about drugs.

I don't know what " primitive cultures " you are referring to with superior

health. They usually do not live very long.............same goes for ancient

cultures.......I don't know what height has to do with health. The longest

lived, healthiest people like the Hunzas and Okinawans eat very little in the

way of animal products. Instead they eat an abundance of fruits and

vegetables...........and have a lifestyle that includes a lot exercise. There

is a reason why the Atkins diet died...........it only works temporarily and

it's dangerous. There was a previously healthy high school girl, near where I

live, that died from the Atkins diet when it was popular. In addition, if you

eat lot's of animal products, you have to realize that it is full of chemical

toxins and hormones unless it is organic. The best diet includes mostly

vegetables, some fruit, a few grains, occasional meat/milk (if you must have),

and zero processed food.

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January 1, 2007

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Although i eat vco, drink coconut milk, etc it is a fat that reacts

differently in the body. Places where they eat fried foods alot,

bacon, sausages etc, especially if they use same fat over and over

again, creating transfats seem to have high incidence of heart disease

etc. In Poland where my mother comes from, they eat that high fat

sausage etc and lots of her family had heart problems and died of heart

disease. I don't think we should be lumping so to speak fats in

burgers etc in the same catagory. Lean organic meat fine, and low carb

is good if you have sugar problem but just look at the mediterrean diet

and how well they fare. Reading the different views i've still come to

the conclusion excluding any food type is unbalancing, unless you are

trying to correct a problem. I think just cutting out all processed

food like someone said is the best step towards health anyone can do

and that includes, sausages etc and all processed meats which lots of

Atkins diet followers eat.

In these ancient cultures the food was natural and fresh, it wasn't

processed and then fried using the same oil or fats over and over. You

probably use vco for your frying but i've seen what people used to eat

on the Atkins and it was not good. So it's not just the high protein

that concerns me on this type of diet.

> If a diet high in protein caused half the problems that the experts

say

> that it does, many of us would not have been born. Mankind began

as

>

January 1, 2007

Wow I have to agree the atkins diet if not done right can be dangerouse, and

isn't meantt to be followed for life thatw ould really hurt you., but it is VERY

popular and what is bad for 1 may work great for someone else. that is why there

i no cookie cutter way to eat. good thing too, how borring that would be,

although we wouldn't know the differenace I suppose. But we all have our

knowledge and expereiences that makes us different and belive differentthings.

Makes this listw orth reading.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

Stuck

[lists] low carb lifestyle

Wow, you have a lot of research to do. You apparently have no clue why or how

a low carb lifestyle works and you seem to have such a closed mind that you

never will.

If you think the Atkins diet is dead, you truly are out of touch.

bsavers <bsavers2@...> wrote:

I don't know what " primitive cultures " you are referring to with superior

health. They usually do not live very long.............same goes for ancient

cultures.......I don't know what height has to do with health. The longest

lived, healthiest people like the Hunzas and Okinawans eat very little in the

way of animal products. Instead they eat an abundance of fruits and

vegetables...........and have a lifestyle that includes a lot exercise. There is

a reason why the Atkins diet died...........it only works temporarily and it's

dangerous. There was a previously healthy high school girl, near where I live,

that died from the Atkins diet when it was popular. In addition, if you eat

lot's of animal products, you have to realize that it is full of chemical toxins

and hormones unless it is organic. The best diet includes mostly vegetables,

some fruit, a few grains, occasional meat/milk (if you must have), and zero

processed food.

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January 1, 2007

I will be doing low carb for life. Here is some mythbusters for you:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/lowcarbmyths.htm

<http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/lowcarbmyths.htm>

>

> I don't know what " primitive cultures " you are referring to with

superior health. They usually do not live very long.............same

goes for ancient cultures.......I don't know what height has to do with

health. The longest lived, healthiest people like the Hunzas and

Okinawans eat very little in the way of animal products. Instead they

eat an abundance of fruits and vegetables...........and have a lifestyle

that includes a lot exercise. There is a reason why the Atkins diet

died...........it only works temporarily and it's dangerous. There was a

previously healthy high school girl, near where I live, that died from

the Atkins diet when it was popular. In addition, if you eat lot's of

animal products, you have to realize that it is full of chemical toxins

and hormones unless it is organic. The best diet includes mostly

vegetables, some fruit, a few grains, occasional meat/milk (if you must

have), and zero processed food.

>

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>

January 1, 2007

My husband and my mom did atkins faithfully for awhile, but it just wasn't for

them. good luck with it.