Re: coconut oil and doctors

[Guest guest]

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> I wonder how the members of this group deal with the medical

> profession on this matter? While I understand some doctors have an

> apprciation of VCNO, this seems to be a minority situation.

Well, I just don't go to them! lol But I thought I would copy and

paste Deborah's message from coconut-info that is a great post with a

greattt idea that might be useful to all. Caitlin Lorraine

>I wish there was a quick, concise response to give to people who feel the

>need to give 'tongue lashings' because you know, they are right and

we poor

>misguided souls are wrong and they aren't about to sit still and

listen to

>what we may have to say.

You're right -- so why don't we come up with some quick, concise

responses? I bet between us we can create several good versions of an

" elevator speech " . That is, something concise and powerful you can

say in 30-60 seconds...about the length of time it takes to complete

an elevator ride.

Here's how I like to construct these things. It should be interesting

enough that it can stand on its own, gets the listener's attention,

and opens the door for them to learn more. I also think it should not

insult or attack their beliefs head-on -- you don't have to make them

wrong in order to expand their minds. And -- if we're really artful

about it -- it doesn't make us like annoying " know it all's " ! No one

likes to have their cherished beliefs challenged, so it needs to be

politely done.

Here's a stab at it:

" You know: you're right: we HAVE been taught in recent years that

tropical oils aren't good for us. But scientists have been

re-evaluating this idea and many are coming to the conclusion that's

it just not the case. I think there's a lot of impressive research

that points to how healthy these oils actually are. I'd be glad to

share some of this research with you if you're interested. I think

it's a fascinating subject and I've really enjoyed learning about it.

[and if appropriate:] It's made such a difference in my own health. "

Anyone else have another version?

best,

Deborah

[Guest guest]

I liked the advice of Mendelsohn in " Confessions of a Medical

Heretic " -- NEVER go to a doctor unless there is something wrong with

you that you know need treatment. Here's one of my favorite passages

from his book.

" How truly deadly the Church is comes into stark relief whenever

there's a doctors' strike. In 1976 in Bogota, Colombia, there was a

fifty-two-day period in which doctors disappeared altogether except for

emergency care. The " National Catholic reporter " described " a string

of unusual side effects " from the strike. The death rate went down

thirty-five percent. A spokesman for the National Morticians

Association said, " It might be a coincidence but it is a fact. " An

eighteen precent drop in the death rate occurred in Los Angeles County

in 1976 when doctors there went on strike to protest soaring

malpractice insurance premiums. Dr. Milton Roemer, Professor of Health

Care Administration at UCLA, surveyed seventeen major hospitals and

found that sixty percent fewer operations were performed. When the

strike ended and the medical machines started grinding again, the death

rate went right back up to where it had been before the strike. "

'The same thing happened in Israel in 1973 when the doctors

reduced their daily patient contact from 65,000 to 7,000. The strike

lasted a month. According to Jerusalem Burial Society, the Israeli

death rate dropped fifty percent during that month. There had not been

such a profound decrease in mortality since the last doctors' strike

twenty years before! When the doctors were asked to explain this

phenomenon, they said that since they only attended emergency cases,

they could invest their best energies into the care of the truly ill

people. When they didn't have to listen to the day-to-day, presumably

unimportant complaints of the average patient, they could devote

themselves to a greater saving of life. "

" That's not such a bad answer. I've been saying right along that

what we need is a perpetual doctors' " strike. " If doctors reduced their

involvement with people by ninety percent and attended only

emergencies, there's no doubt in my mind that we'd be better off. "

S. Mendelsohn, M.D., Confessions of a Medical Heretic (Chicago,

Contemporary Books, Inc., 1979), p. 114.

(posted by Babcock)

[Guest guest]

Interesting quote - yet I don't undersatnd the reference to the Church in

the first line. Can you explain?

Sharon

[Guest guest]

> Interesting quote - yet I don't undersatnd the reference to the Church

> in

> the first line. Can you explain?

Here's the quote: " How truly deadly the Church is comes into stark

relief whenever

there's a doctors' strike "

Mendelsohn, as the title of his book indicates ( " Confessions of a

Medical Heretic) contends that the medical profession is more like a

church than anything else. It expects you to take the word of the high

priest (the doctor) on faith alone. They even have ritual communion

(meds) and ritual mutilation (surgery, a large number of which are

unnecessary).

Any doubt about how the church of medicine treats non-believers should

be taken care of by seeing the vitriol with which they great people who

dare to disagree with the accepted canon. Such as Kilmer McCully, the

proponent of the homocysteine theory of heart disease -- he was

actually dismissed from the Harvard faculty, where he taught, and

released from the hospital where he worked. Or witness the horror that

coconut oil creates in these bozos.