Re: New user of Coconut Oil Weght Gain

[Guest guest]

>

> To those who are chronically overweight, i just read

> in another group that if you do the following

> everytime you drink water, you will lose weight big

> time but not overnight.

>

> Put white stevia powder in your blender

> Add water til half of the blender

> Blend counting to 20 or until it foams

> Let it stand until you see sediments at the bottom.

>

> Stevia is alkaline. It makes your water pure. Man has

> lots of water in his body and, changing the water

> currently in your system with pure water makes the

> body work properly causing weight lose.

>

> It also helps in healing cancer. The poster said her

> uncle was diagnosed with cancer after 4 months of

> drinking this pure water, the cancer has diminished

> greatly.

>

>

>

Is this like drinking distilled water?

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need

> to lose?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Alobar,

I am one of those addicted persons. I quit drinking in 1976 because

for 3 1/2 months I had lost total control of my drinking. Later I

became very addicted to sugar, and it is an addiction I am still

struggling with because I go back to trying to *control it* instead

of totally abstaining. I know I would have no problem becoming slim

if I just stayed totally away from sugar. I have done it several

times for at least a year at a time, and my weight loss was

fantastic. Then I try a *little* and soon I find myself *totally* out

of control.

Stoppimg drinking was so much easier. It was easy not to keep the

stuff at home, and I just totally stopped going to the bar. BUT, with

sugar, it is at every social event there is. Actually it is

EVERYWHERE! I can't even go to the bank, or to the grocery store

without sugary goodies set out for the public. Now, I can easily

refrain from keeping any of the stuff in my home, but the only way I

could avoid socializing with others would be to become totally

reclusive. Isolation is at least as destructive to a persons health

as sugar, so I think that is out. But, I want to be able to do all

the socializing without *falling* into my addiction to sugar. With

the holidays my addiction is really out of control.

I really relate with others here who have shared their carb

addiction. I am one who does lose the craving if I stay off of the

stuff, but when I see it I literally forget that I am trying to get

off of it and stay off, and there I am feeding my face with the

stuff. It is like the addiction literally takes over my mind and self

control.

The ways I have gotton off sugar before was to give up all

socializing, but I became very unhappy.

I have tried doing the social thing by taking snacks of cheese, fresh

nuts, or baby carrots (they do not trigger my addiction), and home-

brewed green tea (so I wouldn't drink the sodas or juices offered)

but people let me know they think that is weird. At pot-luck dinners

I would take a dish for everyone to share, but then bring my own

plate of a large salad and lean meat and fruit for dessert. I wanted

to be there for the socializing, but not damage my health. Some got

defensive, like I was better than them or suggesting a negative to

them for eating that stuff. Some let me know they felt I was giving

them an insult, suggesting they were eating the wrong foods, or

saying they were fat. My pastor actually talked to me about it, and

told me to " just eat small portions of what was offered there, and

not bring special foods " . Well, small portions of those foods set me

on a tangent that was like me trying to have a little bit of booze. I

get so out of control with the sugars that people at these events

have actually commented on my going back for seconds or thirds, and

yesterday I was told by a friend of mine that she actually wanted to

tell me to " not go back for more " . I tell you it gets embarrassing,

but once I start eating sweets I just cannot stop no matter even if I

will end up embarrassed, or damaging my health.

I really want to stop this. I am very tempted to go back to taking my

own foods with me at all times and to these events, so that I will be

able to deal with my sugar addiction. Taking my *special foods* has

an embarrassment factor also, mainly because others make such a

*negative* issue about it. But, what am I supposed to do?

I would love to hear from others here on how to handle this without

becoming isolated. Being I am single, and with no family these social

events are very important to me.

Amber

==================

> > In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to

those

> > proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us

who

> > are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

> > every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight

by

> > adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

> > psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs

and

> > especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

> > My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I

do.

> > I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a

very

> > long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

> > cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

> > focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

> > a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

> > intelligent person, and this is more than real.

> > So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

> > reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's

very

> > simple " is not helpful.

> >

> > Theresa

>

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Could you tell me where to find that article?

Thanks,

Amber

=========

>

Thankfully Duncan supplied that article showing that Cayenne,

Grapefruit Juice, Ketoconazole (used for Yeast infections) and one or

two other things, that SLOWED DOWN Phase 1 of the Liver Detox so that

the VCO built up.

>

> Thank God, I took the time to find and read that article. I stopped

using the Cayenne and now I can take the FULL DOSE of 4 tbsp. daily

of VCO and even late in the evening and can sleep okay. 1. When you

take your VCO, take it pure maybe 1 tablespoon right before each

regular meal. It triggers a satiation effect during eating making it

easier not

to over-eat.

[Guest guest]

The answer to weight loss is to purify ones system, all the time the colon

is full of toxins and old waste matter weight is very difficult to get rid

of, people on our program lose between 4 to 10 kilos over a two week period.

Safely whilst receiving incredible benefits.

Its common sense that Liver detoxing only works after one purifies ones

colon, if not it fights a constant battle to keep up with the poisons,

chemicals, cooked foods and natural toxins in ones body.

Coconut oil and the water are essential for a clean and healthy system but

there is no feeling like purification its addictive and works for every one

no matter what the ailment or complaint.

Be well

Dxx

_____

[Guest guest]

Hi there girls

Thanks for the email I do understand I have been through weight problem mine

a quick and drastic gain I put on 14 Kilos (30 lbs) in 6 week I suppose a

little like the movie " super size me " , had terrible depression and feeling

of absolutely no self worth.

I would like to share my experiences with you I work in Asia helping people

who struggle with their health and weight, one lovely lady was 100 kilos she

is now down to 82 kilos it has taken her 6 months and three 8 day programs

she is now very healthy and her body has completely changed shape. She has

completely reprogrammed her eating habits and changed her lifestyle to suit

her new body.

I don't want to get into " forum trouble " by having too long an email, or not

mentioning coconut oil however it is all coconut based so I will leave it up

to you if you want to chat personally I have pictures I can share which

shows the remarkable physical change. My methods are incredibly simple but

need commitment if you have this you can both do it.

Wishing you both joy today.

Dxx

_____

From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Theresa

Sent: 15 December 2007 15:24

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: New user of Coconut Oil Weght Gain

I also need to lose weight, I am 65 pounds overweight, and gaining.

Theresa

>

> Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need to lose?

>

[Guest guest]

Here ya go Amber http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/liver_function.html

Bonnie

Re: New user of Coconut Oil Weght Gain

Bonnie,

Could you tell me where to find that article?

Thanks,

Amber

=========

>

Thankfully Duncan supplied that article showing that Cayenne,

Grapefruit Juice, Ketoconazole (used for Yeast infections) and one or

two other things, that SLOWED DOWN Phase 1 of the Liver Detox so that

the VCO built up.

>

> Thank God, I took the time to find and read that article. I stopped

using the Cayenne and now I can take the FULL DOSE of 4 tbsp. daily

of VCO and even late in the evening and can sleep okay. 1. When you

take your VCO, take it pure maybe 1 tablespoon right before each

regular meal. It triggers a satiation effect during eating making it

easier not

to over-eat.

[Guest guest]

If we do not yet know about the other componants, how can anyone make

claims about the properties of these unknown componants?

Alobar

On 12/17/07, zoe w <herebedragons@...> wrote:

> Stevia as a whole herb does have some very beneficial components, but the

white powder is an extract

> and is missing a lot of the goodies. I also question its ability to purify

water, would like to see the research supporting this claim.

> zoe

>

> > According to the original writer, stevia has other

> > components that we don't know.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this will be of help to anyone, but I thought I would

mention it. Sugar cravings and an inability to lose weight are often symptoms

of a

hormone imbalance. I am talking about NATURAL, plant based hormone

replacement therapy, not synthetic.

You can go to this website for the name of a compounding pharmacy near you:

_www.iacprx.org_ (http://www.iacprx.org)

When you find one near you, call them ask for the name of a doctor who

specializes in bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.

You can also get the saliva tests kits yourselves for testing, but then you

will have to find a doctor to write the prescriptions for the natural

hormones. These are plant based replacements.

_www.aeron.com_ (http://www.aeron.com) and

_www.sabresciences.com_ (http://www.sabresciences.com)

I also highly recommend Suzanne Somers books, The Sexy Years, and Ageless

for more information on bioidentical hormones. I've been doing it for two

months now, and my sugar and salt cravings have mostly stopped. I am still

tweaking my hormone levels to get them into perfect balance, so weight loss has

been

slow so far, but at least it has started. I also have more energy for

exercise and life in general.

No amount of coconut oil or low carb diets will help if you are

insulin-resistant because of hormone imbalance. Radical to say here, I know, but

it's the

truth. I'd be happy to share more in private, if anyone is interested. I

hope this helps someone.

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[Guest guest]

>

> I would love to hear from others here on how to handle this without

> becoming isolated. Being I am single, and with no family these social

> events are very important to me.

>

> Amber

> ==================

Hi Amber,

It sounds like you really want to take good care of yourself.

Addiction is so hard to overcome when you are addicted to something

that is not considered " taboo " in the world. People are much more

likely to support your attempts to overcome a drug or alcohol addiction

than a sugar addiction because more people are addicted to sugar than

want to admit, and your attempts are probably convicting them which in

turn makes them defensive, regardless of the innocence of your actions.

I used to be a weight watchers member, actually even though I no longer

attend meetings, I am a lifetime member. During one of the meetings

soneone came up with an idea for social eating that I have used in the

past, and it has worked great. The idea is to eat your healthy meal

just before going to the social event (and VCO), so that when you get

there you are fully satisfied. People are more likely to accept that

you are not very hungry more than seeing you eat something different

than everyone else. Then if you want to eat something at the event you

are more likely to make better food choices because you are not hungry.

I hope this helps.

Cireena

[Guest guest]

Yes it is puzzling to me, as well. Especially after reading accounts

of some others who are losing weight and in Fife's book.

The only thing that has changed in my diet (which is generally pretty

good) is the addition of the VCO - mind you I am not replacing

un-healthy oils, like vegetable or corn oils just adding 2-3

tablespoons daily. I have been doing this for about 3 weeks so it may

not be enough time to tell whether the weight will come off or

stabilize. The only other change has been a bit more exercise on my

part to try to get my weight back to normal.

Lex

> >

> > Greetings,

> >

> > I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> > recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> > health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons for

> > the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> > have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> > am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

> >

> > Thanks for you kind replies.

> >

> > Lex

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Some people are genetically very 'sensitive' to sugars.

Sugar is similar chemically to cocaine!!

Others can take or leave sugars..they don't have the same weakeness. The people

that have one small taste and want to keep g oing and going...they are sugar

sensitive!

Try www.biosuperfood.com its can help with cravings..

I don't sell it. I use it ...very good.

The more nourished you are the less likely to go overboard on sugars..also see

www.themagicisbac.com

AJD

[Guest guest]

Hello, I am new to the group and this is my first post. For those with

carb cravings, here is what worked for me: Grapefruit Seed Extract

(GSE). I started taking it every morning for stomach aches, and it

works very well. After a few weeks, I also noticed that I had reduced

my craving for carbs by a great deal. I have chocolate bars in my

kitchen that I don't even touch now. I started the GSE for my stomach,

but ended up staying on it for the reduced carb craving as well. You

can take it in the liquid form or tablet, either one works just as

well. The liquid is very bitter, but it works faster, for an acute

problem (like a stomach ache), the tablets I take with my breakfast

every morning as an ongoing preventative.

The theory of why it works is that the GSE controls yeast growth, that

an overabundance of yeast in the body is what triggers the carb

cravings (yeast feeds on sugar). I don't know if that is what makes it

work, but I don't really care why, I just know that it works, and I

used to be a carbaholic. I also exercise daily (I walk my dog 3-4

miles every day after work) and that helps with the cravings and

obviously, with the weight. I buy GSE (both liquid and tablets) at

Whole Foods (health food store). I hope that helps.

> > > In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to

> those

> > > proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us

> who

> > > are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

> > > every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight

> by

> > > adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

> > > psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs

> and

> > > especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

> > > My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I

> do.

> > > I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a

> very

> > > long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

> > > cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

> > > focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

> > > a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

> > > intelligent person, and this is more than real.

> > > So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

> > > reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's

> very

> > > simple " is not helpful.

> > >

> > > Theresa

> >

>

[Guest guest]

how are the result taking cococnut oil and why do you take it, i also just

started and feel bloated

lucynemo <lucynemo@...> wrote: Hello, I am new to the group and

this is my first post. For those with

carb cravings, here is what worked for me: Grapefruit Seed Extract

(GSE). I started taking it every morning for stomach aches, and it

works very well. After a few weeks, I also noticed that I had reduced

my craving for carbs by a great deal. I have chocolate bars in my

kitchen that I don't even touch now. I started the GSE for my stomach,

but ended up staying on it for the reduced carb craving as well. You

can take it in the liquid form or tablet, either one works just as

well. The liquid is very bitter, but it works faster, for an acute

problem (like a stomach ache), the tablets I take with my breakfast

every morning as an ongoing preventative.

The theory of why it works is that the GSE controls yeast growth, that

an overabundance of yeast in the body is what triggers the carb

cravings (yeast feeds on sugar). I don't know if that is what makes it

work, but I don't really care why, I just know that it works, and I

used to be a carbaholic. I also exercise daily (I walk my dog 3-4

miles every day after work) and that helps with the cravings and

obviously, with the weight. I buy GSE (both liquid and tablets) at

Whole Foods (health food store). I hope that helps.

> > > In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to

> those

> > > proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us

> who

> > > are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

> > > every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight

> by

> > > adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

> > > psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs

> and

> > > especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

> > > My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I

> do.

> > > I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a

> very

> > > long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

> > > cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

> > > focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

> > > a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

> > > intelligent person, and this is more than real.

> > > So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

> > > reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's

> very

> > > simple " is not helpful.

> > >

> > > Theresa

> >

>

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> specializes in bioidentical hormone replacement therapy.

>

> No amount of coconut oil or low carb diets will help if you are

> insulin-resistant because of hormone imbalance. Radical to say here,

I know, but it's the

> truth. I'd be happy to share more in private, if anyone is

interested. I

> hope this helps someone.

Bioidentical hormone replacement therapy refers to SEX hormones.

Insulin resistance is not caused by a sex hormone imbalance.

Insulin resistance is a condition in which the cells of the body become

resistant to the hormone, insulin.

Insulin resistance may be part of the metabolic syndrome, and

associated with the development of heart disease.

Insulin resistance precedes the development of type 2 diabetes.

[Guest guest]

Amber,

I'm replying to your post as I've just now read it, and haven't read

any other replies as of yet, so I may be duplicating other's

suggestions.

In answer to your question, " I am very tempted to go back to taking my

own foods with me at all times and to these events, so that I will be

able to deal with my sugar addiction. Taking my *special foods* has

an embarrassment factor also, mainly because others make such a

*negative* issue about it. But, what am I supposed to do? "

Short and simple...get new friends. These people who put you down are

not your friends.

Keep up your efforts to live healthy - it is so worth it.

-Patty

[Guest guest]

Amber wrote " I really want to stop this. I am very

tempted to go back to taking my own foods with me at

all times and to these events, so that I will be able

to deal with my sugar addiction. Taking my *special

foods* has an embarrassment factor also, mainly

because others make such a *negative* issue about it.

But, what am I supposed to do? "

Amber,

Your minister should have a strong talking to. He of

all people should understand addictions as he must

counsel alcoholics and drug addicts using the religion

as therapy for this. Ask him " Would you ask a drug

addict or an alcoholic to drink just a little bit or

take a little snort of cocaine to fit it? What is

different about me than a diabetic who can't eat sugar

or it will send them into diabetic shock? " Shame on

him. If that continues then find yourself a church

that will support you no matter how you eat!

I understand your addiction to sweets and carbs. I

was he same way and the only way I could break my

addiction to fat (I'm not so worried about that one

now), sugar and salt was to cut them out completely

for months at a time. I would go to work potlucks

with my own bowl of salad and entire meal. I was

admired for my perseverance and my clean eating

habits. My boss at work told me one day that he

started to give his kids better food choices because

of me. That made me feel good!

If you are working to make yourself a stronger person

then don't let anyone stop you from doing this. Your

body is a partner in this life and you should treat it

in the right manner and this mean fueling it

correctly. Think of your body as a finely made sports

car - the top of the line sports car. You wouldn't put

the low octane fuel into this car or you would ruin

it. You would put the best gasoline and additives

into it to keep it running right. One day I was in

the pet store buying dog food for my dogs and I

realized I was feeding my dogs better than I was

feeding my body. That was a wake up call for me!

You may want to look into using EFT (emotional freedom

techniques) at emofree.com for the cravings. They

have free manual for the technique at

http://emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.asp. You have to

sign up for the newsletter but the newsletter is good.

I've used EFT and it has worked for me in some

issues.

Stay strong in the process of treating your body

correctly.

When you go to a social event remember that eating

should be a small part of it. Spend more time

socializing than eating. Go through some low carb

cookbooks and Internet websites to find things that

don't look lowcarb and take them with you. Make a

delicious low carb cheesecake that everyone will beg

you to bring the next time. Or take a roast chicken

or carne asada or something that is a meat dish that

you can eat freely of.

Maybe it's time for you to make new friends and go to

social events that aren't food related and who will

understand and accept your way of eating.

If you need to vent or talk more, you can email me

privately.

Christy K.

[Guest guest]

Patty T wrote:

> Taking my *special foods* has

> an embarrassment factor also, mainly because others make such a

> *negative* issue about it. But, what am I supposed to do? "

>

> Short and simple...get new friends. These people who put you down are

> not your friends.

>

Amber,

As uncomfortable as Patty's advice is I second it. People who want you

to eat things that will make you ill so they won't feel uncomfortable

are NOT your friends. And your pastor is supposed to be YOUR pastor as

well, with YOUR best interest to heart when he counsels YOU. I do not

see any concern for YOU in his cruel advice.

Believe it or not, if you want to be healthy more than you want to

continue association with people who put their mental comfort above your

physical health, you will dump this group and find a more compassionate

and truly caring group to be friends with.

Still, if you determine to continue these relationships, now knowing

beyond doubt they do not care about your health, do keep in mind you are

collaborating in keeping yourself sick.

sol

[Guest guest]

I found that taking more than a teaspoon of VCO at a time gives me a

stomach ache. I started taking it for the health benefits. I also use

it on my skin, the results on my skin are great, and I am avoiding the

chemicals in most commercial face/skin lotions. It's much cheaper, too!

Hello, I am new to the group

and this is my first post. For those with

> carb cravings, here is what worked for me: Grapefruit Seed Extract

> (GSE). I started taking it every morning for stomach aches, and it

> works very well. After a few weeks, I also noticed that I had reduced

> my craving for carbs by a great deal. I have chocolate bars in my

> kitchen that I don't even touch now. I started the GSE for my stomach,

> but ended up staying on it for the reduced carb craving as well. You

> can take it in the liquid form or tablet, either one works just as

> well. The liquid is very bitter, but it works faster, for an acute

> problem (like a stomach ache), the tablets I take with my breakfast

> every morning as an ongoing preventative.

>

> The theory of why it works is that the GSE controls yeast growth, that

> an overabundance of yeast in the body is what triggers the carb

> cravings (yeast feeds on sugar). I don't know if that is what makes it

> work, but I don't really care why, I just know that it works, and I

> used to be a carbaholic. I also exercise daily (I walk my dog 3-4

> miles every day after work) and that helps with the cravings and

> obviously, with the weight. I buy GSE (both liquid and tablets) at

> Whole Foods (health food store). I hope that helps.