Re: New user of Coconut Oil Weght Gain

Posted December 12, 2007 · December 12, 2007

Hi Lex,

Yes, as soon as I started using coconut oil I gained weight. At first

I decided that perhaps I could tolerate some weight gain in exchange

for good health, and just chalked it up to part of the healing

experience. However, I have since found that the only way to not gain

(or lose) weight while taking coconut oil is to seriously cut out carbs

(anything made with sugar or flour). Hope this helps.

Theresa

> Greetings,

> I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons for

> the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

> Thanks for you kind replies.

> Lex

Posted December 12, 2007 · December 12, 2007

Yes, unfortunately, that has been one of the side effects for me as

well. I've gained about 10 pounds, so I'm seriously thinking of

eliminating the coconut oil from my diet. I really don't need that

extra weight, when I really need to lose!

Carol

http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons for

> the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

>

> Thanks for you kind replies.

>

> Lex

>

Posted December 12, 2007 · December 12, 2007

Hi !

Are you very certain that coconut oil caused your gain in weight. This is in

contrast with the general findings of many that coconut oil intake for a

reasonable time tends to results in weight reduction because the saturated

medium chain fatty acid it contains is used by our body in our energy system

rather than as stored fat (increases body weight).

May we know, what sort of foods you usually take for breakfast, lunch and

dinner/supper times, and in-between meals. Also, did you have record of your

weight before you started taking coconut oil daily. Another thing, is it

possible that coconut oil is not a pure one (100%), instead, adulterated or

mixed with other vegetable oils ?

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Carol <carol@...> wrote:

Yes, unfortunately, that has been one of the side effects for me as

well. I've gained about 10 pounds, so I'm seriously thinking of

eliminating the coconut oil from my diet. I really don't need that

extra weight, when I really need to lose!

Carol

http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons for

> the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

>

> Thanks for you kind replies.

>

> Lex

>

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Posted December 13, 2007 · December 13, 2007

The trick seems to be to eliminate carbs, not just cut back on

carb intake. Alcoholics don't get anywhere by moderating their

alcohol habit. Smokers who smoke less still have cravings. I feel

it is best to go cold turkey to get rid of carb cravings.

Alobar

On 12/13/07, Theresa <4tburns@...> wrote:

> Alobar,

>

> It is great that coconut oil helped eliminate your cravings for

> carbs. But the same does not hold true for everyone. When I

> started taking coconut oil my body just screamed for sugar, and still

> does. I'm wondering if perhaps we add/eliminate foods (carbs and

> coconut oil) in a certain order we can cut down on cravings and carbs

> and lose weight???? There has to be some explanation of why some

> people gain weight while others lose and why some people lose their

> cravings for carbs while others gain. Can the people who are losing

> weight and cravings explain what steps they took, and in what

> order??? That would be a great help to those of us going in the

> opposite direction.

>

> Theresa

Posted December 13, 2007 · December 13, 2007

Lex,

At 3 tbls per day of VCO I simply could not lose weight, though I did

not gain weight as long as I stayed away from simple carbs.

My solution was to go to one tbls per day, in my morning tea. At one

tbls per day I can very readily lose weight as long as I stay away

from simple carbs. I do NOT eliminate healthy complex carbs though,

as when I do I severely lose muscle.

I plan on staying at the one tbls per day. I would not want to give

it up all together because of all the benefits.

So, If I were you I would not cut out VCO all together, but simply

reduce to one tbls per day.

Amber

============

Greetings,

>

> I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons

for

> the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

>

> Thanks for you kind replies.

>

> Lex

Posted December 13, 2007 · December 13, 2007

VCO prevented muscle loss for me when I eliminated most all carbs.

Alobar

On 12/13/07, amberblzn <amberblzn@...> wrote:

> I do NOT eliminate healthy complex carbs though,

> as when I do I severely lose muscle.

Posted December 14, 2007 · December 14, 2007

Deborah, I need to lose about 25 pounds.

Carol

Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need to lose?

Posted December 15, 2007 · December 15, 2007

I also need to lose weight, I am 65 pounds overweight, and gaining.

Theresa

>

> Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need to lose?

>

Posted December 15, 2007 · December 15, 2007

Theresa, it's very simple, just stay on a low-carb diet and eat 3-4 tbsp. daily

of Coconut Oil.

Bonnie

Re: New user of Coconut Oil Weght Gain

I also need to lose weight, I am 65 pounds overweight, and gaining.

Theresa

>

> Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need to lose?

>

Posted December 15, 2007 · December 15, 2007

I would add that Coconut OIl tends to produce a sensation of well-being and

maybe, just maybe you are eating a little more than you used to.. The whole

issue of weught control.. is balance... If you need to reduce your weight , you

must create a deficit.. Spend more (calories) than you ingest,so eat less

exercise a little more but real VCO even in large quantity (I take close to 6

tablespoon a day often more) in my experience does not promote weight gain...

Quite the contrary...

Frantz

Severino Magat <sev_magat@...> wrote: Hi !

Are you very certain that coconut oil caused your gain in weight. This is in

contrast with the general findings of many that coconut oil intake for a

reasonable time tends to results in weight reduction because the saturated

medium chain fatty acid it contains is used by our body in our energy system

rather than as stored fat (increases body weight).

May we know, what sort of foods you usually take for breakfast, lunch and

dinner/supper times, and in-between meals. Also, did you have record of your

weight before you started taking coconut oil daily. Another thing, is it

possible that coconut oil is not a pure one (100%), instead, adulterated or

mixed with other vegetable oils ?

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Carol <carol@...> wrote:

Yes, unfortunately, that has been one of the side effects for me as

well. I've gained about 10 pounds, so I'm seriously thinking of

eliminating the coconut oil from my diet. I really don't need that

extra weight, when I really need to lose!

Carol

http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

>

> Greetings,

>

> I have been incorporating Virgin Coconut Oil in to my diet as

> recommended by Bruce Fife's Book (the Coconut Miracle). Although my

> health is generally good (I have been getting about 3 tablespoons for

> the last two weeks )and have also continued my exercise regimen I

> have begun to gain wait. So far just a few pounds (5 or so) but I

> am wondering if others have experienced similar weight gain?

>

> Thanks for you kind replies.

>

> Lex

>

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Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to those

proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us who

are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight by

adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs and

especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I do.

I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a very

long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

intelligent person, and this is more than real.

So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's very

simple " is not helpful.

Theresa

> >

> > Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need

to lose?

> >

>

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

Hi Theresa, I understand your frustration for I have the same battle. I can tell

you what has helped me and it is being very aware of when I eat and what I eat

which does get rather frustrating when we are all so very busy. I try to eat

every 3 hours or 2 and half hours. I keep high protein and especially hard

boiled eggs work well for me and eat lower carb, but still good carbs like

complex carbs, especially grapefruit and apples, thus my sweet tooth is

satisfied and I do not feel so deprived. I will eat a grapefruit with cottage

cheese around 3pm and dinner by 6pm for example. I leave off all bread, even

whole wheat , and limit other fats while taking the coconut oil, making the

coconut oil my primary fat. Theresa this works for me when I really stick to it

which I am trying to do again. My frustration comes when Iam too tired from

work ect to stay with the plan and start old habits of just grabbing whats

around. I hope this help. Coconut oil definitely makes my entire

body feel better with a great sense of well being. I have gained on the oil,

but I am convinced its because I have not allowed for the extra calories and

fat, so I am adjusting that.I hope this helps and good luck. I agree that

although the intentions are most likely very good, to say to someone its simple

does not help those of us who have struggled so hard.Many other factors besides

calorie intake and energy burned are at play here, like metabolism, hormones and

thyroid to name a few and genetics. take care. Pat

Theresa <4tburns@...> wrote: In a very kind and loving way

I would like to address a word to those

proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us who

are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight by

adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs and

especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I do.

I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a very

long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

intelligent person, and this is more than real.

So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's very

simple " is not helpful.

Theresa

> >

> > Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need

to lose?

> >

>

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

Theresa,

You might want to consider using this approach which I know has worked well with

others:

1. When you take your VCO, take it pure maybe 1 tablespoon right before each

regular meal. It triggers a satiation effect during eating making it easier not

to over-eat.

2. During craving for carbs, take 1/2 to 1 tablespoon of VCO instead. The

cravings become easier to control. Quantitatively and discounting metabolism

effect, 1 gram of VCO is only equivalent to about 0.17 gram of simple carbs in

terms of potential for weight gain, assuming excess quantities were taken.

3. VCO increases metabolism which may trigger a hunger feeling. When you are

certain that you have eaten enough, dont give in to this feeling. Lovingly force

your body to get the additional energy demand from your stored fat. Soon it may

become good at this and you will really see progress in your loss-weight effort.

I used to be 155 lbs and increasing. Now I have a very stable weight range of

125 to 130 lbs.

I hope the above helps.

Tony

Theresa <4tburns@...> wrote: In a

very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to those

proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us who

are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight by

adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs and

especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I do.

I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a very

long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

intelligent person, and this is more than real.

So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's very

simple " is not helpful.

Theresa

> >

> > Hope you don't mind me asking but how much weight do you need

to lose?

> >

>

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

Theresa,

I can sympathize with you. I NEVER lost carb/sugar cravings no matter

how strict low carb I went. And I agree if the very strong cravings do

not go away, eventually the strongest willed person will give in. The

reason others can lose weight on low carb and stay there is they lose

those cravings. If they did not, they would be in the same boat you are

in (I'm in that boat with you).

sol

Theresa wrote:

> In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to those

> proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us who

> are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

> every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight by

> adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

> psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs and

> especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

> My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I do.

>

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

I used to eat 5-10 pounds of sugar a week. On top of that, I ate a

quart or two of icecream, 5 boxes of cookies, and other sugary foods

each week. I also drank about a liter or two of coca cola each day.

I tried cutting back on carbs many times, over a 20-30 year period,

but I could not stick with it. The cravings were far to strong for

me.

Then a friend of mine (an ex-heroin addict) asked me if I had tried

cutting out ALL carbs, going " cold turkey " . My friend is a nurse.

He observes many people with addiction problems. He said that when

people try to cut back on their drug (be it heroin, tobacco, or

carbs), they fail again and again, but by getting rid of the drug

entirely -- which means having none of the drug in one's home, and not

socailizing around others who indulge in that drug -- the task of

breaking the addiction becomes more managable.

I gave up my carbs. Not only sugar and sweets, but also bread, rice,

potatoes, grains, carrots, all fruits except for ovocados.

Along my path of recovery from carb addiction, I stumbled on two

obstacles. The body is addicted to simple sugars, which it can also

make by breaking down complex carbs. The body then begins to eat

one's muscles to make glucose. This is not a good thing. One can

begin to lose strength. One's metabolism slows down as the body goes

into starvation mode. When I started taking coconut oil daily, it

helped to speed up my metabolism, which promoted weight loss. The

medium chain fatty acids in coconut oil can be used directly by the

body for energy. An addicted person's body would rather have sugar,

but in a short time it becomes far less cranky if fed coconut oil

throughout the day. Small doses of coconut oil, many times a day, is

what I found most effective for helping to calm my sugar cravings.

The other thing I discovered is that if I ate any sugar substtitues

like nutrasweet, stevia, or xylitol, the sweetness triggered very

strong sugar cravings in me. So no candy or cookes meant for

diabetics, no soft drinks with artificial sweetener, etc.

Once the addiction has been tamed (less than a year, for me) I can now

indulge in a slice of tomato a day, and even have sushi several times

a year without the tomato or rice triggering my carb cravings.

Alobar

On 12/16/07, Theresa <4tburns@...> wrote:

> In a very kind and loving way I would like to address a word to those

> proponents of " it's very simple. " Weight loss, for those of us who

> are chronically overweight is anything but simple. I have spent

> every day for over thirty years of my life trying to lose weight by

> adhering to low-carbs. To tell someone who, for whatever

> psychological or physical (or both) reason is addicted to carbs and

> especially to sugar is like shouting in a hurricane.

> My body craves carbs in a way that interferes with everything I do.

> I have tried accupuncture, EFT, taking various concoctions and a very

> long list of other means, including coconut oil that " fight sugar

> cravings " and all to no avail. When my body wants sugar I cannot

> focus on anything else until I get it. Many people label this

> a " weak excuse " for overeating, but believe me, I am a strong,

> intelligent person, and this is more than real.

> So please, if someone has some constructive information on how to

> reduce carb cravings, I would by forever grateful. To say " it's very

> simple " is not helpful.

>

> Theresa

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

Addendum to my previous post.

In observing others trying to give up an addiction, the people who had

to work the hardest were people who had lives they did not like.

People who hated their jobs, had bad relationships always wanted a

" treat " to make them feel better. By taking charge of their own

happiness and fulfilment, dealing with the addiction became more

manageable.

Addictions also feed into one another. I have known people who gave

up alcohol, only to become much heavier smokers. TV addiction makes

one want to eat snacks while watching TV. Getting out and doing

things, whether it be strenuous exercise, going dancing, or just

taking long walks each day can help a lot of people.

Alobar

On 12/16/07, Alobar <alobar@...> wrote:

> I used to eat 5-10 pounds of sugar a week. On top of that, I ate a

> quart or two of icecream, 5 boxes of cookies, and other sugary foods

> each week. I also drank about a liter or two of coca cola each day.

> I tried cutting back on carbs many times, over a 20-30 year period,

> but I could not stick with it. The cravings were far to strong for

> me.

>

> Then a friend of mine (an ex-heroin addict) asked me if I had tried

> cutting out ALL carbs, going " cold turkey " . My friend is a nurse.

> He observes many people with addiction problems. He said that when

> people try to cut back on their drug (be it heroin, tobacco, or

> carbs), they fail again and again, but by getting rid of the drug

> entirely -- which means having none of the drug in one's home, and not

> socailizing around others who indulge in that drug -- the task of

> breaking the addiction becomes more managable.

>

> I gave up my carbs. Not only sugar and sweets, but also bread, rice,

> potatoes, grains, carrots, all fruits except for ovocados.

>

> Along my path of recovery from carb addiction, I stumbled on two

> obstacles. The body is addicted to simple sugars, which it can also

> make by breaking down complex carbs. The body then begins to eat

> one's muscles to make glucose. This is not a good thing. One can

> begin to lose strength. One's metabolism slows down as the body goes

> into starvation mode. When I started taking coconut oil daily, it

> helped to speed up my metabolism, which promoted weight loss. The

> medium chain fatty acids in coconut oil can be used directly by the

> body for energy. An addicted person's body would rather have sugar,

> but in a short time it becomes far less cranky if fed coconut oil

> throughout the day. Small doses of coconut oil, many times a day, is

> what I found most effective for helping to calm my sugar cravings.

>

> The other thing I discovered is that if I ate any sugar substtitues

> like nutrasweet, stevia, or xylitol, the sweetness triggered very

> strong sugar cravings in me. So no candy or cookes meant for

> diabetics, no soft drinks with artificial sweetener, etc.

>

> Once the addiction has been tamed (less than a year, for me) I can now

> indulge in a slice of tomato a day, and even have sushi several times

> a year without the tomato or rice triggering my carb cravings.

>

> Alobar

>

Posted December 16, 2007 · December 16, 2007

Alobar,I couldn't agree more, thank you for explaining the addiction cycle so

well. People who suffer from addiction (myself included with food) want to self

medicate to feel better in the moment instead of looking at the root and causes

of the addiction . I am very much into a self discovery mode and journey to end

this cycle and feel hopeful with results beginning to happen. Pat

Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: Addendum to my previous post.