Re: Expeller pressed oil / RBD oil

[Guest guest]

> That's interesting. I thought the " virgin " tag applied to coconut

oil made from fresh coconuts, as opposed to copra....

It could mean the same thing - remember that oil from copra would

still have to be cleaned up and processed (through heat or chemical

processing) to remove the impurities - no need for this if you

extract the oil from freshly scraped fresh coconut meat.

[Guest guest]

Well, this company uses neither heat nor chemical processing for their copra. It

is certified organic by IMO, which is a Swiss organisation. The resulting oil

looks, feels, tastes and smells like virgin, very creamy an dlight - I would

call it virgin, in fact. But is much cheaper. I'll try to find out more about

their processing of the copra.

Sharon M

[Guest guest]

Jim

I thought oil from copra is for industrial use.

Re: Expeller pressed oil / RBD oil

> That's interesting. I thought the " virgin " tag applied to coconut

oil made from fresh coconuts, as opposed to copra....

It could mean the same thing - remember that oil from copra would

still have to be cleaned up and processed (through heat or chemical

processing) to remove the impurities - no need for this if you

extract the oil from freshly scraped fresh coconut meat.

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[Guest guest]

At 06:16 PM 3/21/2004 +0800, pbanagal wrote:

>Jim

>

>I thought oil from copra is for industrial use.

, your favorite Minola cooking oil is processed from copra, according

to the link I posted earlier.

I was looking at the supermarket today and took a lot of the local

margarines (Dari Creme, Buttercup, Star etc) - all made with palm and

coconut oil, interesting. All processed from copra.

[Guest guest]

I have never tasted fresh made coconut milk, but I do drink

coconut milk daily. Most of the product in metal cans tastes

anywhere from bad to wretched. Two outstanding brands of coconut

milk which come in cans are " Mae Ploy " and " Chaokoh " from Thailand.

These are quite good. But far better than either of those brands is

Coco Gem, which comes in non-metal containers (paper coated with

plastic) which comes from the Philippines. This is the brand sold

thru www.Wildernessfamilynaturals.com in the US. More expensive

than the canned coconut milk I can buy locally at an Asian grocery,

but well worth the price whenever I have the money to buy the really

good stuff.

Alobar

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> ,

>

> At least you can have the coco milk. None of it works for me. I

use

> expeller oil, because without that I would not be able to ingest

this

> coconut oil. The smell and taste if something I never could get

use to it,

> even as a sweet coco shread on cakes.

>

> Diane

>

[Guest guest]

How do they remove the mold which grows on copra as it dries?

Alobar

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> Well, this company uses neither heat nor chemical processing for

their copra. It is certified organic by IMO, which is a Swiss

organisation. The resulting oil looks, feels, tastes and smells like

virgin, very creamy an dlight - I would call it virgin, in fact. But

is much cheaper. I'll try to find out more about their processing of

the copra.

> Sharon M

[Guest guest]

I would just like to add something about copra... As i live near a

copra processing plant, the term " copra " would mean, to our locals

(Philippines), as the dried coconut meat. Now, as to the content of

molds in the dried meat, it wound depend on the length of time of the

drying. The traditional* copra is dried by furnace (on rainy days) or

by direct heat of the sun for a week. Then these are stored in

warehouses from the provinces for sometime before shipment to the oil

refining factories. By this time, the dried meat has developed molds

already.

*I say traditional because there is a new copra processing that would

yield a high value oil like the DME oil. They dry the meat before

pressing. The drying time is very short as compared to the

traditional drying. As to the question if it is still " virgin " , that

I dont know. It still has to be defined. But in my opinion, it is

still virgin as long as it hasnt been refined and still has coconut

smell and taste.

Regards,

Blex

> > That's interesting. I thought the " virgin " tag applied to coconut

> oil made from fresh coconuts, as opposed to copra....

>

> It could mean the same thing - remember that oil from copra would

> still have to be cleaned up and processed (through heat or chemical

> processing) to remove the impurities - no need for this if you

> extract the oil from freshly scraped fresh coconut meat.

[Guest guest]

I don't kmow. I'll try and find out.

Sharon

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> Well, this company uses neither heat nor chemical processing for

their copra. It is certified organic by IMO, which is a Swiss

organisation. The resulting oil looks, feels, tastes and smells like

virgin, very creamy an dlight - I would call it virgin, in fact. But

is much cheaper. I'll try to find out more about their processing of

the copra.

> Sharon M

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[Guest guest]

All I know is that they use a German-made solar drier to make the copra; and the

whole process is certified organic.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

In this case, the same company grows the coconut trees, dreis the coconut meat

into copra, and presses the oil. The result is excellent and as I said, it is

IMO certified.

Sharon M

[Guest guest]

Jim

I've seen those copra being taken out of shell and dried under the sun.....yuk!

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At 06:16 PM 3/21/2004 +0800, pbanagal wrote:

>Jim

>

>I thought oil from copra is for industrial use.

, your favorite Minola cooking oil is processed from copra, according

to the link I posted earlier.

I was looking at the supermarket today and took a lot of the local

margarines (Dari Creme, Buttercup, Star etc) - all made with palm and

coconut oil, interesting. All processed from copra.

[Guest guest]

I think TT's virgin coconut oil processed the traditional way is lightly heated

and yet it is classified as virgin.

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At 05:34 PM 3/19/2004 +0800, pbanagal wrote:

>But the result of separation of water, curd, and oil are almost the same

>as one of our folkloric method (like the method published by PCA). The

>oil is also very pure and unadulterated and very light. Am i right to

>think that the centrifuge method uses low heat to remove moisture. So

>their method also sees heat somehow.

Had to look through Google to see how a centrifuge works to separate the

coconut oil from the water. But as far as I can read, the centrifuge method

uses no heat at all, the water is " spun out " out of the mixture.

Bruce is right, there is no official definition of " virgin coconut oil " yet

- perhaps a standards body needs to step in to define this. After all the

French are very firm which region can produce champagne and you can only

have real Parmesan from a specific area in Italy.

As far as I can tell, suppliers use the " virgin " tag when they refer to an

oil that is cold-pressed, without heat and chemical extraction - in which

case they are taking the cue from the olive oil industry who use that as a

definition for extra virgin olive oil (i.e. " first cold pressing "

" unfiltered " ) . A " virgin " coconut oil will always have that coconut smell

and taste - because it hasn't been processed to remove those characteristics.

[Guest guest]

At 06:03 PM 3/21/2004 -0800, Kho wrote:

> > *I say traditional because there is a new copra

>processing that would yield a high value oil like the

>DME oil. They dry the meat before pressing. The drying

>time is very short as compared to the traditional

>drying. As to the question if it is still " virgin " ,

>that I dont know. It still has to be defined. But in

>my opinion, it is still virgin as long as it hasnt

>been refined and still has coconut smell and taste.

- maybe they can get Madonna to do endorsements of the product and use

her song.

After all, the oil is " Like a Virgin " - hehe

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jim ayson / jim@... / www.philmusic.com

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

Where are you located? And do they ship to the US?

Irene

> Well, this company uses neither heat nor chemical processing for

their copra. It is certified organic by IMO, which is a Swiss

organisation. The resulting oil looks, feels, tastes and smells like

virgin, very creamy an dlight - I would call it virgin, in fact. But

is much cheaper. I'll try to find out more about their processing of

the copra.

> Sharon M

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