Re: Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

[Guest guest]

you are so right!! i started the fast track detox plan which consist of 3-4

per day and my

cholesterol better was 176 ldl 142 now 4 weeks later of 3-4 eggs per day it

is 100 and ldl was

84. that is a big drop!!! eggs are food from god!!!

--- Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

> The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

>

> Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

> drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

> against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

>

> Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

> aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

> are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

> not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

> key.

>

> The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

> is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

> without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

> supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

>

> Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

> eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

> diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

> insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

> (which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

> carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

> internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> > JoAnn Guest

> > Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> > -------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

> >

> > Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> > recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> > cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> > publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> > have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> > up to four eggs a week. "

> >

> > Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> > Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> > the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> > 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> > and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> > associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> > cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> > female group for fourteen years.

> >

> > They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> > Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> > intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> > problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> > eating and heart disease.

> >

> > Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> > and

> > in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> > balance

> > is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> > including

> > the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> > from

> > cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> > maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

> >

> >

> > Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> > liver

> > dysfunction caused by the following:

> >

> > Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

> >

> > Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> > common.

> >

> > A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> > to

> > be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> > although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> > precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> > and

> > with disease, diabetes being the most common.

> >

> > The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> > cholesterol

> > from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> > is

> > sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

> >

> > Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> > result

> > in excessive LDL levels.

> > Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> > receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> > association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> > common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> > association.

> >

> > Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> > stroke.

> >

> >

> > INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> > FUNCTION

> >

> > 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> > 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> > 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> > lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

> >

> > JoAnn Guest

> > mrsjo-@...

> > www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow, that is DANGEROUSLY low cholesterol, particularly for women.

On Jan 21, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Jackie wrote:

> you are so right!! i started the fast track detox plan which

> consist of 3-4 per day and my

> cholesterol better was 176 ldl 142 now 4 weeks later of 3-4

> eggs per day it is 100 and ldl was

> 84. that is a big drop!!! eggs are food from god!!!

[Guest guest]

Sorry, my mistake....I was reading that as total cholesterol. I

didn't see the breakdown.... sorry! Reading too fast sometimes )

On Jan 21, 2007, at 6:05 PM, cathylynn2 wrote:

> Wow, that is DANGEROUSLY low cholesterol, particularly for women.

>

>

>

> On Jan 21, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Jackie wrote:

>

>> you are so right!! i started the fast track detox plan which

>> consist of 3-4 per day and my

>> cholesterol better was 176 ldl 142 now 4 weeks later of 3-4

>> eggs per day it is 100 and ldl was

>> 84. that is a big drop!!! eggs are food from god!!!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I eat 4 eggs at a time 3-4 times a week and have been doing this fore at least 5

years. In this time I have not had any significant health problems. In fact I

have not been to medical doctor in over 18 years except once for a medical for a

life insurance policy.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies

indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

key.

The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

(which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

Alobar

On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> JoAnn Guest

> Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

>

> Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> up to four eggs a week. "

>

> Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> female group for fourteen years.

>

> They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> eating and heart disease.

>

> Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> and

> in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> balance

> is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> including

> the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> from

> cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

>

>

> Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> liver

> dysfunction caused by the following:

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> common.

>

> A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> to

> be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> and

> with disease, diabetes being the most common.

>

> The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> cholesterol

> from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> is

> sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

>

> Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> result

> in excessive LDL levels.

> Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> association.

>

> Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> stroke.

>

>

> INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> FUNCTION

>

> 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

>

> JoAnn Guest

> mrsjo-@...

> www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

>

[Guest guest]

Jackie:

I haven't been following this thread but noticed your elation about eggs. I bet

it isn't actually the eggs that's lowering your Cholesterol but that you are

avoiding something else.

Bonnie

Re: Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies

indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

you are so right!! i started the fast track detox plan which consist of 3-4

per day and my

cholesterol better was 176 ldl 142 now 4 weeks later of 3-4 eggs per day it is

100 and ldl was

84. that is a big drop!!! eggs are food from god!!!

--- Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

> The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

>

> Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

> drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

> against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

>

> Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

> aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

> are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

> not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

> key.

>

> The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

> is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

> without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

> supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

>

> Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

> eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

> diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

> insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

> (which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

> carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

> internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> > JoAnn Guest

> > Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

> >

> > Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> > recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> > cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> > publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> > have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> > up to four eggs a week. "

> >

> > Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> > Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> > the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> > 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> > and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> > associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> > cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> > female group for fourteen years.

> >

> > They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> > Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> > intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> > problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> > eating and heart disease.

> >

> > Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> > and

> > in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> > balance

> > is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> > including

> > the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> > from

> > cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> > maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

> >

> >

> > Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> > liver

> > dysfunction caused by the following:

> >

> > Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

> >

> > Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> > common.

> >

> > A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> > to

> > be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> > although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> > precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> > and

> > with disease, diabetes being the most common.

> >

> > The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> > cholesterol

> > from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> > is

> > sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

> >

> > Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> > result

> > in excessive LDL levels.

> > Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> > receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> > association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> > common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> > association.

> >

> > Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> > stroke.

> >

> >

> > INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> > FUNCTION

> >

> > 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> > 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> > 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> > lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

> >

> > JoAnn Guest

> > mrsjo-@...

> > www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

What makes you say that?

Alobar

On 1/22/07, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Jackie:

>

> I haven't been following this thread but noticed your elation about eggs. I

bet it isn't actually the eggs that's lowering your Cholesterol but that you are

avoiding something else.

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Not sure. I just don't see how eating eggs everyday can lower Cholesterol, all

by itself, without any other changes. It seems too easy.

Bonnie

Re: Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies

indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

What makes you say that?

Alobar

On 1/22/07, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Jackie:

>

> I haven't been following this thread but noticed your elation about eggs. I

bet it isn't actually the eggs that's lowering your Cholesterol but that you are

avoiding something else.

>

> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Doug,

When I was still young I learned that under abnormal times, banana, eggs and

milk are the most important nutritious food needs which could sustain our life.

Of course, water and salt in judicious amounts are also needed.

By the way, in what form of the eggs do you usually have it. Boiled,

fried/scrambled ( what cooking oil do you use) or taken raw ?

Cheers,

Sev Magat

Murray <doublaswalter@...> wrote:

I eat 4 eggs at a time 3-4 times a week and have been doing this fore

at least 5 years. In this time I have not had any significant health problems.

In fact I have not been to medical doctor in over 18 years except once for a

medical for a life insurance policy.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies

indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

key.

The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

(which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

Alobar

On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> JoAnn Guest

> Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

>

> Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> up to four eggs a week. "

>

> Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> female group for fourteen years.

>

> They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> eating and heart disease.

>

> Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> and

> in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> balance

> is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> including

> the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> from

> cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

>

>

> Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> liver

> dysfunction caused by the following:

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> common.

>

> A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> to

> be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> and

> with disease, diabetes being the most common.

>

> The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> cholesterol

> from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> is

> sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

>

> Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> result

> in excessive LDL levels.

> Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> association.

>

> Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> stroke.

>

>

> INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> FUNCTION

>

> 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

>

> JoAnn Guest

> mrsjo-@...

> www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

>

[Guest guest]

Alobar

A couple of months ago, I remember reading a post and I though it was from you

recommending MSM and telling of your experience and a detox experience your

received. I have been taking MSM now for a little over a month and woke up this

morning with a itching rash under my arms and around the groin area. I have not

started any new supplements since the MSM. Any advice or if the post was not

from you do you remember who it was?

Thanks

Coconut Oil@...: Alobar@...: Mon, 22

Jan 2007 13:42:55 -0600Subject: Re: Re:

[Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart

Disease

What makes you say that?AlobarOn 1/22/07, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>

wrote:> Jackie:>> I haven't been following this thread but noticed your elation

about eggs. I bet it isn't actually the eggs that's lowering your Cholesterol

but that you are avoiding something else.>> Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I usually very slow (low temperature) fry with an induction hot plate in a 5

inch cast iron frying pan. It usually takes 15 minutes. I alternately us about a

half teaspoon of EV Olive oil or VCO.

I have read that if you had access to a fresh young coconut a day you could

survive indefinably even without any other water. Remember the tsunami victim

that was rescued at sea after ,I think it was 8-9 or maybe even more days. That

was all he had as he was floating on several coconut trees.

Cheers, Doug

Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum] Studies

indicate eggs no longer implicated in Heart Disease

The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

key.

The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

(which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

Alobar

On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> JoAnn Guest

> Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

>

> Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> up to four eggs a week. "

>

> Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> female group for fourteen years.

>

> They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> eating and heart disease.

>

> Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> and

> in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> balance

> is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> including

> the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> from

> cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

>

>

> Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> liver

> dysfunction caused by the following:

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

>

> Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> common.

>

> A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> to

> be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> and

> with disease, diabetes being the most common.

>

> The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> cholesterol

> from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> is

> sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

>

> Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> result

> in excessive LDL levels.

> Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> association.

>

> Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> stroke.

>

>

> INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> FUNCTION

>

> 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

>

> JoAnn Guest

> mrsjo-@...

> www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

>

[Guest guest]

yes i am . but my point is.. eggs have not raised my cholesterol even though i

am eating more of

them.

--- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Jackie:

>

> I haven't been following this thread but noticed your elation about eggs. I

bet it isn't

> actually the eggs that's lowering your Cholesterol but that you are avoiding

something else.

>

> Bonnie

> Re: Re: [Alternative_Medicine_Forum]

Studies indicate eggs

> no longer implicated in Heart Disease

>

>

> you are so right!! i started the fast track detox plan which consist of 3-4

per day and my

> cholesterol better was 176 ldl 142 now 4 weeks later of 3-4 eggs per day it

is 100 and ldl was

> 84. that is a big drop!!! eggs are food from god!!!

> --- Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote:

>

> > The " study " cited below fails on two main counts, imo.

> >

> > Firstly: The " study " fails to mention that many Pharmaceutical

> > drugs destroy or in inhibit liver function. Does the AMA warn

> > against pharmaceutical drugs? Nope.

> >

> > Secondly: The " study " talks about reduced liver function from

> > aging. Bad diet, lack of key supplements, and pharmaceutical drugs

> > are what induce age related problems such as liver dysfunction. It is

> > not one's physical age, but what one is doing with one's life that is

> > key.

> >

> > The " study " says it is now OK to eat 4 eggs per week. That

> > is such bullshit. People can eat 2-4 eggs a day for many decades

> > without getting heart problems if they have a good diet, take

> > supplements, and stay away from pharmaceutical drugs.

> >

> > Cholesterol build-up arises not from eating healthy foods like

> > eggs, but from arterial damage from too little vitamin C, from a poor

> > diet, from diabetic drugs which force the pancreas to make far more

> > insulin than is good for arteries, from deficiencies in Co-enzyme Q10

> > (which are made far worse by taking heart meds), and eating a high

> > carbohydrate diet (the body needs cholesterol & it can make it

> > internally from carbohydrates, if the diet is too low in cholesterol).

> >

> > Alobar

> >

> >

> > On 1/21/07, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo@...> wrote:

> > > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down

> > > JoAnn Guest

> > > Jan 21, 2007 11:46 PST

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > Studies have now been published that turn historical medical

> > > recommendations to avoid eggs upside down.

> > >

> > > Although a single egg yolk contains 200 milligrams of cholesterol,

> > > recent studies show that eating eggs doesn't necessarily cause

> > > cholesterol in the bloodstream to skyrocket. According to the

> > > publishers of The New England Journal of Medicine, " these findings

> > > have led doctors to give the okay for most healthy Americans to eat

> > > up to four eggs a week. "

> > >

> > > Now in a study published in the April 21 Journal of the American

> > > Medical Association, Harvard Medical School researchers categorized

> > > the egg-eating habits of almost 38,000 male health professionals and

> > > 80,000 female nurses; and found low consumption at one egg per week

> > > and high at one or more eggs per day. Researchers also tracked the

> > > associated occurrence of heart attacks, stroke, and other types of

> > > cardiovascular disease in the male group for eight years and in the

> > > female group for fourteen years.

> > >

> > > They found no connection between egg consumption and heart disease.

> > > Even after adjusting for factors such as age, weight, high-fat food

> > > intake, smoking, high blood pressure, and family history of heart

> > > problems no statistical correlation was identifiable between egg

> > > eating and heart disease.

> > >

> > > Eggs are no longer implicated in problems with LDL (bad cholesterol)

> > > and

> > > in fact help the body to balance good and bad cholesterol. This

> > > balance

> > > is important because cholesterol forms part of all our organs,

> > > including

> > > the heart and brain. All sex hormones are manufactured by the body

> > > from

> > > cholesterol. Adequate cholesterol is absolutely necessary for

> > > maintaining mental and sexual function during aging.

> > >

> > >

> > > Researchers have found that changes in LDL are mainly a result of

> > > liver

> > > dysfunction caused by the following:

> > >

> > > Liver dysfunction occurs as part of the aging process.

> > >

> > > Liver dysfunction occurs from disease, diabetes being the most

> > > common.

> > >

> > > A defect in the receptor protein for LDL in the liver has been found

> > > to

> > > be a cause for high LDL. This defect is considered to be genetic,

> > > although dietary environment and an unhealthy lifestyle could

> > > precipitate liver dysfunction, and often does with the aging process

> > > and

> > > with disease, diabetes being the most common.

> > >

> > > The LDL receptor from the liver is responsible for removing

> > > cholesterol

> > > from the blood; and once the LDL is bound to the receptor a signal

> > > is

> > > sent for the body to cease producing LDL.

> > >

> > > Damaged receptors do not send the " Stop Production " signal, and

> > > result

> > > in excessive LDL levels.

> > > Also, a diet high in saturated fat decreases the number of LDL

> > > receptors, and thereby reduces " Stop Production " feedback. Another

> > > association to LDL levels is Low Thyroid Function. Although not as

> > > common, individuals with thyroid problems need to realize this

> > > association.

> > >

> > > Proper ranges are important in the prevention of heart attack or

> > > stroke.

> > >

> > >

> > > INDICATORS OF POOR LIVER FUNCTION AND COMPROMISED CARDIOVASCULAR

> > > FUNCTION

> > >

> > > 200 mg/dl (Total) and above, AND

> > > 130 mg LDL and above, AND

> > > 35mg/dl HDL and lower, AND

> > > lipoprotein(a) level greater than 30 mg/dl

> > >

> > > JoAnn Guest

> > > mrsjo-@...

> > > www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets

> > >

> >

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