Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 I use the white type, but I suppose any onion will do. From: " Keefer" <jkeefer@...>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:16:04 -0400 Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 4 to 1 is too much, try 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 before trying it raw. From: "Bret " <Bret.@...>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:22:20 -0400 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Forgive my stupidity but, how else would you juice an onion but raw? JaneSilvina Hunter <hunter_pondal@...> wrote: 4 to 1 is too much, try 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 before trying it raw. From: "Bret " <Bret.sas>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:22:20 -0400 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Thanks, Gwen -- I was talking to Silvina, who said that once you use the onions and the sinusitis clears up, you don't have to use them again. I don't know what you mean by " it depends on what you want to do. " I know you don't want to post about this anymore, but it would really help if you could clarify that you used the onions for one cycle until the sinusitis cleared up and then you never had to use them again. That was what I was responding to specifically, and that is really all I meant to ask about. There was someone who said they didn't want to hassle with it, and Silvina said they would not need to hassle with it except to clear up the sinusitis and then never again. If that is true, that's what I want to know. If it's not true, I would want to know that, too. I'm not saying it doesn't help, but I want to understand what people are saying it does -- because what I understood, that you use it and then you don't need to anymore, seems unbelievable for someone with polyps Lori > > Lori, > I have polyps, I have had two surgeries for polyps. This is my last post concerning the onion juice. Its there and it works but it is like anything else, it depends on what you want to do. > > > Re: Experimenting > > > With all due respect, you don't have polyps. What shows for me on > CAT scans is not sinusitis. It's polyps. This makes a huge > difference in the understanding of the problem and it really can't be > ignored. > > What confused me was when you said you could use the onion juice, the > sinusitis would clear up, and then you could stop using the onion > juice. > > Lori > > > <<Hi Mark, > > My sinusitis was chronic, and if you scan my sinus today (in fact I > had it checked this year) apart from seeing a deviated septum (caused > by my previous sinusitis) you will still see some mucus - but very > little and not enough to give me any of the bothersome symptoms. > > So, as someone said, I will never completely 'cure' this problem, but > I consider it 'cured' from the moment I don't feel the same symptoms > that I used to have before this treatment.>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Dear Lori, I did say that once I had cleared up my sinus I stopped with the onion juice, but I also said that whenever I feel the first symptoms of a cold turning into something like a sinusitis (I think we all know these first symptoms: pain in the cheekbones, or jellyish mucus, or difficulty getting the mucus out, etc...) I do a three-night onion juice application, and that clears it all up again. What I can guarantee is that I never got a serious sinusitis problem since! Best of luck Silvina From: "truelori" <lori@...>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: ExperimentingDate: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:46:46 -0000 Thanks, Gwen -- I was talking to Silvina, who said that once you use the onions and the sinusitis clears up, you don't have to use them again. I don't know what you mean by "it depends on what you want to do."I know you don't want to post about this anymore, but it would really help if you could clarify that you used the onions for one cycle until the sinusitis cleared up and then you never had to use them again. That was what I was responding to specifically, and that is really all I meant to ask about. There was someone who said they didn't want to hassle with it, and Silvina said they would not need to hassle with it except to clear up the sinusitis and then never again.If that is true, that's what I want to know. If it's not true, I would want to know that, too. I'm not saying it doesn't help, but I want to understand what people are saying it does -- because what I understood, that you use it and then you don't need to anymore, seems unbelievable for someone with polypsLori>> Lori,> I have polyps, I have had two surgeries for polyps. This is my last post concerning the onion juice. Its there and it works but it is like anything else, it depends on what you want to do.> > > Re: Experimenting> > > With all due respect, you don't have polyps. What shows for me on > CAT scans is not sinusitis. It's polyps. This makes a huge > difference in the understanding of the problem and it really can't be > ignored.> > What confused me was when you said you could use the onion juice, the > sinusitis would clear up, and then you could stop using the onion > juice. > > Lori> > > <<Hi Mark,> > My sinusitis was chronic, and if you scan my sinus today (in fact I > had it checked this year) apart from seeing a deviated septum (caused > by my previous sinusitis) you will still see some mucus - but very > little and not enough to give me any of the bothersome symptoms.> > So, as someone said, I will never completely 'cure' this problem, but > I consider it 'cured' from the moment I don't feel the same symptoms > that I used to have before this treatment.>>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I think he meant just the onion juice without the water, when he said 'raw' From: Jane Marino <janesmarino@...>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Forgive my stupidity but, how else would you juice an onion but raw? JaneSilvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: 4 to 1 is too much, try 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 before trying it raw. From: "Bret " <Bret.sas>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:22:20 -0400 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. More photos; more messages; more storage—get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Yes, "raw" meaning undiluted and uncooked onion juice. I have been mixing my juice with NeilMed solution and applying it via the NeilMed bottle. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:41 AMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting I think he meant just the onion juice without the water, when he said 'raw' From: Jane Marino <janesmarino >Reply-samters To: samters Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Forgive my stupidity but, how else would you juice an onion but raw? JaneSilvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: 4 to 1 is too much, try 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 before trying it raw. From: "Bret " <Bret.sas>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:22:20 -0400 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. More photos; more messages; more storage—get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 The juice must never be cooked!!!! You must always use a RAW (ie non cooked/non boiled) onion. You must cut the onion in half (like an orange) and press the juice out of it (as if you were making orange juice, but with an onion). Very little juice will come out, but it's enough. From: "Bret " <Bret.@...>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: Re: ExperimentingDate: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:21:20 -0400 Yes, "raw" meaning undiluted and uncooked onion juice. I have been mixing my juice with NeilMed solution and applying it via the NeilMed bottle. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:41 AMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting I think he meant just the onion juice without the water, when he said 'raw' From: Jane Marino <janesmarino >Reply-samters To: samters Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Forgive my stupidity but, how else would you juice an onion but raw? JaneSilvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: 4 to 1 is too much, try 3 to 1 or 2 to 1 or 1 to 1 before trying it raw. From: "Bret " <Bret.sas>Reply-samters To: <samters >Subject: RE: Re: ExperimentingDate: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:22:20 -0400 I used yellow onions with some success. Unfortunately I found the first applications are better than subsequent ones. However, I only do it mixing it with NeilMed (4 N to 1 O) and applying it that way. Now I am tempted to try it raw! From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:16 PMsamters Subject: RE: Re: Experimenting Ok, while I am not in need of the onion solution right now, there have certainly been times when I would have been willing to try it. So, my only question is: does it matter what kind of onion? White, yellow, red, sweet? There are a lot of onions out there… maybe it doesn’t matter? I don’t recall seeing onion type in any of the posts but maybe I just missed it… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Silvina HunterSent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:06 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: Experimenting Try with the onions! From: " Ladd" <nathanladdgmail>Reply-samters To: samters Subject: Re: Re: ExperimentingDate: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:36:21 -0500 Intuitively, I agree with this idea, but I'm not sure where it comes from...why is this accepted as fact by most people? I have asked people, but the only response I get is something like "they" have done "studies" -- which isn't exactly substantial reasoning. I have tried all sorts of 'altenative' cures to Samter's but none of them have worked. I've completely lost the ability to believe that anything will work at this point On 10/9/07, Silvina Hunter <hunter_pondalhotmail> wrote: Hi Mark, Anyway, I respect people's decision to refuse to try it simply because in every type of treatment, between 50 and 70 % of the efficiency of the treatment is the patient's faith in the treatment's success. Silvina Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks Treats for You! Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. More photos; more messages; more storage—get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail. More photos; more messages; more storage—get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I made enough onion juice and saline for three days but I only had to use it once. After the first day, I did not have to use it anymore and I have not needed to use it. Re: Experimenting> > > With all due respect, you don't have polyps. What shows for me on > CAT scans is not sinusitis. It's polyps. This makes a huge > difference in the understanding of the problem and it really can't be > ignored.> > What confused me was when you said you could use the onion juice, the > sinusitis would clear up, and then you could stop using the onion > juice. > > Lori> > > <<Hi Mark,> > My sinusitis was chronic, and if you scan my sinus today (in fact I > had it checked this year) apart from seeing a deviated septum (caused > by my previous sinusitis) you will still see some mucus - but very > little and not enough to give me any of the bothersome symptoms.> > So, as someone said, I will never completely 'cure' this problem, but > I consider it 'cured' from the moment I don't feel the same symptoms > that I used to have before this treatment.>>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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