Re: Commercial virgin oil products

[Guest guest]

Dr. Magat, Millicent,

Welcome. I am here in San Pablo City, Laguna where coconut trees abound too.

Since you are both in PCA could you shed light on my observation as follows: I

have noticed that the machine produced oils have lower lauric acid content.

Hardly any of them have reached more than 45%. Most hover around 43+-%. I have

noticed that the traditional process (of course done the proper way with low

heat - below 100 deg) could even reach as high as 50+% of lauric acid content.

Why is this so?

[Guest guest]

Dr. Magat, Millicent,

Welcome. I am here in San Pablo City, Laguna where coconut trees abound too.

Since you are both in PCA could you shed light on my observation as follows: I

have noticed that the machine produced oils have lower lauric acid content.

Hardly any of them have reached more than 45%. Most hover around 43+-%. I have

noticed that the traditional process (of course done the proper way with low

heat - below 100 deg) could even reach as high as 50+% of lauric acid content.

Why is this so?

[Guest guest]

Dear Millie,

Thank you for your very prompt reply.

I use the old folks' medicinal variety called kalumbahin -- a tall variety

(farmer's variety acc. to a PCA staff who came to SPC sometime ago). This

kalumbahin variety is really an energy booster. Its juice and meat taste very

sweet and has no after taste. Foreigners prefer this than gatorade, the energy

drink.

Where does one get the tall x dwarf variety? Is this the one that costs P1,000

per tree? BTW, can I get a copy of the techno report? Is it possible to send

it to me by email at PBANAGAL@....

I have not sent our oil for testing yet. We will try doing another traditional

method, but the very original way. The " stove " is a hole in the ground, and use

only wood that does not turn into charcoal. This wood is kind of hard to get.

(It is in the " endangered " category, but I believe my father-in-law has quite a

bit of it in his farms.) In this old method, according to an 85 year old man,

the heat is very regulated and easier to control. Quality oil is produced --

white oil, very slight taste and odor,no moisture, no aflatoxin and very very

long life. I'll let you know how successful we are in doing this. We will see

if this is better than connecting a 220-volt stove into a 110 outlet and dial

just on simmer just like we do now.

Regards to your loved ones too. Hope to meet you sometime when you come over to

SPC and visit your family.

Re: Commercial virgin oil products

Dear ,

Per consultation with our expert from PCA-R.O. (Ms. E. Caro) , the content of

lauric acid is affected by the varietal difference (tall, dwarf or hybrid). What

variety are you using? From our Breeding & Geentics Div. data , the range of

lauric acid content is between 51 -54 for tall x dwarf hybrids, 47% for tall

(esp. Baybay), for the dwarfs -lower than 50% also. Tthe level of heat

application is also a factor, it should be lower than 70 degrees C. Also the

maturity of the nut also matters.

I been connected with PCA-DRC since the early '80s and have established my own

family here in Davao.However, I can visit my family (parents & sisters/bros) in

SPC oftentimes 2-3 x a year esp. when I have official trip to PCA-CO and some

other places in Luzon.

Nice to hear that there are already private individuals like you who are now

producing CVO.

Warm regards to you and your family!

Truly yours,

Millie Secretaria

[Guest guest]

Millie

I just noticed that you said 70 deg. C. That would be 158 deg. fahrenheit.

That is very hot indeed. The oil could boil at this temp wouldn't it? I use

much lower temp than this.

Re: Commercial virgin oil products

Dear ,

Per consultation with our expert from PCA-R.O. (Ms. E. Caro) , the content

of lauric acid is affected by the varietal difference (tall, dwarf or hybrid).

What variety are you using? From our Breeding & Geentics Div. data , the range

of lauric acid content is between 51 -54 for tall x dwarf hybrids, 47% for tall

(esp. Baybay), for the dwarfs -lower than 50% also. Tthe level of heat

application is also a factor, it should be lower than 70 degrees C. Also the

maturity of the nut also matters.

I been connected with PCA-DRC since the early '80s and have established my

own family here in Davao.However, I can visit my family (parents & sisters/bros)

in SPC oftentimes 2-3 x a year esp. when I have official trip to PCA-CO and some

other places in Luzon.

Nice to hear that there are already private individuals like you who are now

producing CVO.

Warm regards to you and your family!

Truly yours,

Millie Secretaria

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know what type of coconut trees produce the virgin

coconut oil sold by Coconut Supreme? About the only thing I know

about the trees is that they are in India. I'm just curious whether

they are dwarf, tall, or hybrid?

Darrell