Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Just out of curiosity.. Where's your wheelchair in your half nude photos of you online? It seems as though you fit into the " disabled porn " community just fine....no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 That wasn't a nice post....I don't know you, or the lady in question, but she does have a right to do as she sees fit w/o people rubbing her nose in it. I have to tell you I am on the board of the chapter that this lady attends, as I have said I have yet to actually meet her...That said I have been E-mailed at least 5 times by different people trying to find reasons to keep her from attending the meetings based on those aforementioned photo's. Do you think that it is right to try to keep her from LPA because of her profession? Or to use her profession to seem to debase her very real concerns about the circumstances of LP's in the acting profession? Anyway, I just thought that your post seems to reiterate what I have previously stated in posts...if we can't accept who all of us are as LP's what chance do we have showing the world we are all really just the same as everyone else? Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 I am not saying that the Achon cmmunity is blocking anything , I have nothing against achons at all, I have friends that are achons, BUT i have noticed when ever you do see a media thing on LP'S it IS mostly Achons, I don't think they are taking over, it just seems thats what the agencies and the producers want to see. I feel as a LP and a disabled person, that I am in limbo, you see I am an LP AND I am disabled and use a wheelchair. I don't fit in the LP image b/c i am in the chair and I am not an achon, I don't fit in the disabled image to the media because I am not a para (parapalegic) Its like where the hell do i belong? You see all sorts of commercials featuring disabled ppl and the majority of them are 'abled bodeied' lookg ppl sitting in chair or actual able-bodied ppl portrayed to appear as disabled. You see a segment on LP's and what do u see? Achons, there needs to be a diversity among BOTH LP and disabled in the media, I have seen ONE OI in all of tv and movie history that actually had OI, on different stokes show. What it really takes to change this is for ppl who aredisable and/or LP's that are agents and scouts, to have the desire to do whats right, they have been in my shoes and know what its like to start out and be discriminated against. Theres so many of us that have the talent and are left behind simply because they dohn't fit the image of what society considers what an LP or disabled looks like. Its the same mindset as someone not wanting a black person on a bus or in a restaurant, its discrimination. I understand yer sentiment but I don't feel that it's the Achon community that is blocking the other groups from being fairly represented. Remember Lee had said that she was invited to be a part of the program but she had to turn it down for reasons of her own and I know that she is not Achon. So, I dunno who's to blame here. Maybe Hollywood? They once excluded or I should say preferred Hypo-pit's over the rest of us, including Achons, before the Hypo-pits basically disappeared due to medical advances in helping them grow. Now that the Achons have become the new majority amongst lp's as a whole, no longer the Hypo-pits, they may be chosen more often than the rest as they are more readily available or prevalent. I dunno? I'd like to think that in as much as I'd like to think that years ago Hollywood chose Hypo-pits because they were more available than the rest of us at one time too, but somehow I feel that probably wasn't the case. Why? I met a couple Munchkins long ago and they did tell me that their managers did prefer the Hypo-pits over the others as they more " cuter " or " child- like " in their appearance. Now this could be happening once again by Hollywood and if it is I feel WE ALL must resist this, including the Achons of which I am one. We must be vocal and express our feelings to the producers to fairly represent us all in this matter, my opinion only. Just an end note on the MTV show that featured a few of us. I felt that Robyn was the best and truly cut to the heart of what we are all about inwardly and amongst our average sized friends and she's not Achon. My only one gripe towards the show would be that it had no minority lp's represented other Rahki who I think is of East Indian descent? However, this was not the fault on the guests that were featured rather that lies with its producer(s). luv, grady;) ps-Those are good points you've brought up, Pretty Kitten and Kurt, because when I look out upon LPA I do not " one " type. I see many which make up the whole and I'm proud to be a piece of the whole that's all of us:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 This has been my experience in some cases in the " entertainment " buz. I once tried out to be a " chipmunk " for Universal Studios Alvin and the Chipmunk live show. Spare me the lecture from those people who dont believe in LPs doing those kinds of rolls... get over it. Anyho... I noticed that the costumes that they already had were basically made for an achon type body and my DD fat ass and pudgey legs were certainly not going to fit. That was 1 of my first realizations. I personally think....when some casting people request LPs... in their minds they think Achons. Since achons have more " distinctive features " (need I spell it out ..cuz some get kinda wiggy about it {Just read the Dwarf World book}) they look like a dwarf from any camera angle. If the LP doesnt have those " features " it doesnt depict the image that the casting person is looking for. Iam NOT trying to start an achon vs other LPs rivalry by any means. Iam just letting you know what I have nocticed. As far as where do you belong? The key thing is.... make your OWN dent in the world. Try not to let what other people do define who YOU are as a person. Its frustrating I know... man do I know...but its all about determination and perseverance. Things happen for a reason. Life puts us thru tests and they can build us up or knock us down. No sense in getting pissed off about things beyond your control. I believe the entertainment world is changing to " our " favor....its a step in the right direction to get ANY LPs to be regulars in primetime. Lets rejoice in that and let the viewing audience get use to it.... because they will be seeing alot more of us.. all different types in the future.... hopefully near future!! Anyone know what the name of that Spike Lee movie that focused on segregation within the Black community? Light skin blacks vs darker skin blacks lee http://www.tanyaleedavis.com/ pretty_lil_kitten333 wrote: > I am not saying that the Achon cmmunity is blocking anything , I have > nothing against achons at all, I have friends that are achons, BUT i > have noticed when ever you do see a media thing on LP'S it IS mostly > Achons, I don't think they are taking over, it just seems thats what > the agencies and the producers want to see. I feel as a LP and a > disabled person, that I am in limbo, you see I am an LP AND I am > disabled and use a wheelchair. I don't fit in the LP image b/c i am > in the chair and I am not an achon, I don't fit in the disabled image > to the media because I am not a para (parapalegic) Its like where the > hell do i belong? You see all sorts of commercials featuring disabled > ppl and the majority of them are 'abled bodeied' lookg ppl sitting > in chair or actual able-bodied ppl portrayed to appear as disabled. > You see a segment on LP's and what do u see? Achons, there needs to > be a diversity among BOTH LP and disabled in the media, I have seen > ONE OI in all of tv and movie history that actually had OI, on > different stokes show. > > What it really takes to change this is for ppl who aredisable and/or > LP's that are agents and scouts, to have the desire to do whats > right, they have been in my shoes and know what its like to start out > and be discriminated against. Theres so many of us that have the > talent and are left behind simply because they dohn't fit the image > of what society considers what an LP or disabled looks like. Its the > same mindset as someone not wanting a black person on a bus or in a > restaurant, its discrimination. > > I understand yer sentiment but I don't feel that it's the Achon > community that is blocking the other groups from being fairly > represented. Remember Lee had said that she was invited to be a > part of the program but she had to turn it down for reasons of her > own and I know that she is not Achon. > > So, I dunno who's to blame here. Maybe Hollywood? They once excluded > or I should say preferred Hypo-pit's over the rest of us, including > Achons, before the Hypo-pits basically disappeared due to medical > advances in helping them grow. Now that the Achons have become the > new majority amongst lp's as a whole, no longer the Hypo-pits, they > may be chosen more often than the rest as they are more readily > available or prevalent. I dunno? I'd like to think that in as much as > I'd like to think that years ago Hollywood chose Hypo-pits because > they were more available than the rest of us at one time too, but > somehow I feel that probably wasn't the case. Why? I met a couple > Munchkins long ago and they did tell me that their managers did > prefer the Hypo-pits over the others as they more " cuter " or " child- > like " in their appearance. > > Now this could be happening once again by Hollywood and if it is I > feel WE ALL must resist this, including the Achons of which I am one. > We must be vocal and express our feelings to the producers to fairly > represent us all in this matter, my opinion only. > > Just an end note on the MTV show that featured a few of us. I felt > that Robyn was the best and truly cut to the heart of what we are all > about inwardly and amongst our average sized friends and she's not > Achon. My only one gripe towards the show would be that it had no > minority lp's represented other Rahki who I think is of East Indian > descent? However, this was not the fault on the guests that were > featured rather that lies with its producer(s). > > luv, grady;) > > ps-Those are good points you've brought up, Pretty Kitten and Kurt, > because when I look out upon LPA I do not " one " type. I see many > which make up the whole and I'm proud to be a piece of the whole > that's all of us:). > > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 It doesnt matter whatis geared toward the achons or what have you, no LP is gonna match me as a drummer! This has been my experience in some cases in the " entertainment " buz. I once tried out to be a " chipmunk " for Universal Studios Alvin and the Chipmunk live show. Spare me the lecture from those people who dont believe in LPs doing those kinds of rolls... get over it. Anyho... I noticed that the costumes that they already had were basically made for an achon type body and my DD fat ass and pudgey legs were certainly not going to fit. That was 1 of my first realizations. I personally think....when some casting people request LPs... in their minds they think Achons. Since achons have more " distinctive features " (need I spell it out ..cuz some get kinda wiggy about it {Just read the Dwarf World book}) they look like a dwarf from any camera angle. If the LP doesnt have those " features " it doesnt depict the image that the casting person is looking for. Iam NOT trying to start an achon vs other LPs rivalry by any means. Iam just letting you know what I have nocticed. As far as where do you belong? The key thing is.... make your OWN dent in the world. Try not to let what other people do define who YOU are as a person. Its frustrating I know... man do I know...but its all about determination and perseverance. Things happen for a reason. Life puts us thru tests and they can build us up or knock us down. No sense in getting pissed off about things beyond your control. I believe the entertainment world is changing to " our " favor....its a step in the right direction to get ANY LPs to be regulars in primetime. Lets rejoice in that and let the viewing audience get use to it.... because they will be seeing alot more of us.. all different types in the future.... hopefully near future!! Anyone know what the name of that Spike Lee movie that focused on segregation within the Black community? Light skin blacks vs darker skin blacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 In a message dated 2/7/2002 12:00:46 AM, tanyalee@... writes: << LPs... in their minds they think Achons. Since achons have more " distinctive features " (need I spell it out ..cuz some get kinda wiggy about it {Just read the Dwarf World book}) they look like a dwarf from any camera angle. I >> I think it has more to do with mobility and torso strength. Many Achons sans back problems can carry the weight of costumes and move about easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 I am sorry but I going to have to qualch the myth about Achons and the Media. Please help with names and types, for I am terrible at spelling and names. Barty - not an achon - CH Curtis - not an achon - Pit Jerry Maron - not an achon - Pit Guy on Seinfeld - not an achon - SED or Sudo Minnie Me - not an achon - another CH Russel Gill - not an achon - Lead in Willow now a major part in Harry Potter - not an achon - SED There are many more, however I am not going to look any worst with my spelling and memory of names. As for the OI who claim to be the most successful LP drummer. The truth be told the most successful LP drummer was Barty. As a young man he traveled around the country playing drums with his family. He work professionally for eight years with Spike and his band. His drum playing credits include playing for O'Connor at the London Pallidum, and numerous others. As for working with Clooney, I don't know, however he did work with and was very good friends of his Aunt Rosemary and his father Nick. The final fact is he had the first professional drum set ever made for an LP. >>> <tonysoares551@...> 02/07/02 01:28PM >>> In a message dated 2/7/2002 12:00:46 AM, tanyalee@... writes: << LPs... in their minds they think Achons. Since achons have more " distinctive features " (need I spell it out ..cuz some get kinda wiggy about it {Just read the Dwarf World book}) they look like a dwarf from any camera angle. I >> I think it has more to do with mobility and torso strength. Many Achons sans back problems can carry the weight of costumes and move about easier. === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Lee Gogin - Not An Achon CA Gogin - Not An Achon CA Re: Re: achons in the media > I am sorry but I going to have to qualch the myth about Achons and the Media. Please help with names and types, for I am terrible at spelling and names. > > Barty - not an achon - CH > Curtis - not an achon - Pit > Jerry Maron - not an achon - Pit > Guy on Seinfeld - not an achon - SED or Sudo > Minnie Me - not an achon - another CH > Russel Gill - not an achon - > Lead in Willow now a major part in Harry Potter - not an achon - SED > > There are many more, however I am not going to look any worst with my spelling and memory of names. > > As for the OI who claim to be the most successful LP drummer. The truth be told the most successful LP drummer was Barty. As a young man he traveled around the country playing drums with his family. He work professionally for eight years with Spike and his band. His drum playing credits include playing for O'Connor at the London Pallidum, and numerous others. As for working with Clooney, I don't know, however he did work with and was very good friends of his Aunt Rosemary and his father Nick. > > The final fact is he had the first professional drum set ever made for an LP. > > >>> <tonysoares551@...> 02/07/02 01:28PM >>> > > In a message dated 2/7/2002 12:00:46 AM, tanyalee@... writes: > > << LPs... in their minds they think Achons. Since achons have more > " distinctive features " (need I spell it out ..cuz some get kinda wiggy about > it {Just read the Dwarf World book}) > they look like a dwarf from any camera angle. I >> > > I think it has more to do with mobility and torso strength. Many Achons sans > back problems can carry the weight of costumes and move about easier. > > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 W. Graydon - Closet Achon NY, one who is not sure whether he is ready to admit being an Achon considering the current discussion at hand. lol luv, grady;) ps-Oh, did I also say that I play drums? Good grief, Grady, don't you know when to let a topic die on it's own?! ROFL > Lee Gogin - Not An Achon CA > Gogin - Not An Achon CA > Barty - not an achon - CH > Curtis - not an achon - Pit > Jerry Maron - not an achon - Pit > Guy on Seinfeld - not an achon - SED or Sudo > Minnie Me - not an achon - another CH > Russel Gill - not an achon - > Lead in Willow now a major part in Harry Potter - not an achon - SED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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