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> > In a message dated 11/1/2006 4:40:14 P.M. Pacific Standard

Time,

> > herebedragons@ writes:

Beth,

Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream there is

info there. We can get to much oestrogen through food etc and can

unbalance our hormones whatever age, causes weight gain etc.

Sally

> >

> Beth

> I'm sorry to hear you are not getting the results you hoped for

> taking vco. Maybe you need to look at other reasons you're not

> losing the weight. I was going to say hormonal imbalance but vco

is

> supposed to help balance hormones, but maybe not enough. Has

> someone already suggested progesterone cream to you? I can't

> remember all your past posts. I would suggest you get checked out

> for everything. Allergies, hormones, etc.

> Sally

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> > Im losing weight without dieting - so how much proof does one

> need

> >

> >

> > I so wish I knew how others do this! I use it but this has not

> been my

> > experience with losing weight :-( .....I even feel a bit like I

am

> gaining a few

> > lbs here and there....which is not helpful..since I lost 35

> lbs...in the

> > spring and need to lose another 20 at least...probably 25 by now

> with the vco!! I

> > have not felt the amazing energy boost either but do think I

feel

> a bit better

> > but do not know if it is the vco...or the flax seed! Beth

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 11/2/2006 1:29:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

sally.hoffman@... writes:

Has

someone already suggested progesterone cream to you? I can't

remember all your past posts. I would suggest you get checked out

for everything. Allergies, hormones, etc.

Hi Sally...I was going to start taking progesterone cream this month but

not sure what kind to take...I heard only to take the kind that is only

progesterone but haven't found that yet...do you have any suggestions?

I weighed this morning and was up at least 4 lbs...yikes!!! I am going to

revamp some things and see if I can get that weight off! Beth in Idaho

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In a message dated 11/2/2006 2:24:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

sally.hoffman@... writes:

Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream there is

info there.

Okay I will try to do a search for it...not sure how to do that but do I

just go to the site and put p.c. in the search bar? Thanks Beth

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Hi Zoe!

Do you mind sharing your soap recipe with us? I used to make my own soap,

but now can no longer use any irritating chemicals, like lye..it would be

fun to make some again!

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> In a message dated 11/2/2006 2:24:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> sally.hoffman@... writes:

>

That's right Beth

> Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream there

is

> info there.

>

>

> Okay I will try to do a search for it...not sure how to do that

but do I

> just go to the site and put p.c. in the search bar? Thanks Beth

>

>

>

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> > In a message dated 11/2/2006 2:24:33 A.M. Pacific Standard

Time,

> > sally.hoffman@ writes:

Beth,

I had quick look myself and copied this from someone else post>

I order mine online form a

> company Bio Nutritional phone #631-694-9777 the oner i get is Dr

> Lee approved called Pure-Gest. every woman of every age weather

> menopausale or not needs this ..

Sally

> That's right Beth

>

>

>

>

> > Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream

there

> is

> > info there.

> >

> >

> > Okay I will try to do a search for it...not sure how to do that

> but do I

> > just go to the site and put p.c. in the search bar? Thanks Beth

> >

> >

> >

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, I am not aware of any way to make soap without the use of lye. When

you add the lye to the oils

is saponifies and produces soap + glycerine once it cures( leave it set for

at least 2 weeks before trying to use it) there are no harsh chemicals left.

By using coconut oil you not only get a firmer bar, but it has a lush lather

as well. When possible I use a combination of coconut, palm and olive oils.

Lye needs to be handled very very cautiously using glass containers and

always rubber gloves. Children and pets should be kept out of the area where

soap is being made and the area must be thoroughly cleaned afterward in case

any lye flakes floated out of bounds. Its tricky, but the end result is worth

the trouble to me.

Thursday, November 2, 2006, 4:50:56 AM, you wrote:

> Hi Zoe!

> Do you mind sharing your soap recipe with us? I used to make my own soap,

> but now can no longer use any irritating chemicals, like lye..it would be

> fun to make some again!

>

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Sally, you said we can get too much Estrogen from foods? (look below), the only

ones I know of are Soy and perhaps Parabens in body creams etc., watch out for

them.

Bonnie

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/1/2006 4:40:14 P.M. Pacific Standard

Time,

> > herebedragons@ writes:

Beth,

Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream there is

info there. We can get to much oestrogen through food etc and can

unbalance our hormones whatever age, causes weight gain etc.

Sally

> >

> Beth

> I'm sorry to hear you are not getting the results you hoped for

> taking vco. Maybe you need to look at other reasons you're not

> losing the weight. I was going to say hormonal imbalance but vco

is

> supposed to help balance hormones, but maybe not enough. Has

> someone already suggested progesterone cream to you? I can't

> remember all your past posts. I would suggest you get checked out

> for everything. Allergies, hormones, etc.

> Sally

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Im losing weight without dieting - so how much proof does one

> need

> >

> >

> > I so wish I knew how others do this! I use it but this has not

> been my

> > experience with losing weight :-( .....I even feel a bit like I

am

> gaining a few

> > lbs here and there....which is not helpful..since I lost 35

> lbs...in the

> > spring and need to lose another 20 at least...probably 25 by now

> with the vco!! I

> > have not felt the amazing energy boost either but do think I

feel

> a bit better

> > but do not know if it is the vco...or the flax seed! Beth

> >

> >

> >

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Before buying any creams, look at the ingredients list for parabens.

Bonnie

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 11/2/2006 2:24:33 A.M. Pacific Standard

Time,

> > sally.hoffman@ writes:

Beth,

I had quick look myself and copied this from someone else post>

I order mine online form a

> company Bio Nutritional phone #631-694-9777 the oner i get is Dr

> Lee approved called Pure-Gest. every woman of every age weather

> menopausale or not needs this ..

Sally

> That's right Beth

>

>

>

>

> > Just to add, if you search old posts for progesterone cream

there

> is

> > info there.

> >

> >

> > Okay I will try to do a search for it...not sure how to do that

> but do I

> > just go to the site and put p.c. in the search bar? Thanks Beth

> >

> >

> >

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My understanding is that the plant estrogens are much weaker than the ones

that cause harm in the body. By binding to the estrogen receptors, these

plant estrogens (phytoestrogens) stop the stronger, more harmful estrogens

from attaching there. That is why it is thought that phytoestrogens protect

us from hormonal cancers, hot flashes and so forth.

Nina

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Sally, you said we can get too much Estrogen from foods? (look below), the

only ones I know of are Soy and perhaps Parabens in body creams etc., watch

out for them.

Bonnie

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Zoe, your list is great. I don't adhere to all of it - I skip most of the

animal products, just fish on occasion - but otherwise nobody could quarrel

with it. (except of course -VCO is pure white!)

Nina

How can it be?

Yes, I adopted several guidelines for myself some time ago, would like

to share them with you all.

#1 Eat nothing artificial

#2 Avoid refined , which means no white sugar, white rice, white

flour, table salt, etc almost anything " white " is taboo in my menu.

#3 Avoid fast food like the plague. I do all my own cooking even tho i

live alone.

#4 When problems arise- exhaust all natural remedies before resorting to

any drugs including aspirin and other OTC stuff. So far the natural

remedies have always worked for me.

#5 Whole foods either raw or lightly steamed seasoned with Ghee

(clarified butter- homemade of course) and Real Salt with herbs if

preferred.

#6 Either home grown or certified organic produce.

#7 Limit meats to lean cuts and only from ranches that adhere to clean

unadulterated standards and who test their products for residue.

Certified Organic if available.

The above is my old list, which still stands unchanged, but to this I

have added the inclusion of many types of fermented foods to my diet as

well as Virgin Coconut Oil and what a delightful addition this has been.

How could any product be more perfect and healthy for us, the only one i

know of is Raw Milk.

As Stuck so aptly put, anything man has tampered with is adulterated

resulting in pure junk. God has given us everything we could possibly

need, how did we get so arrogant as to think we could do it better?

Our world is sadly out of balance, ruled by greed and madness, it is only

within groups such as this one that I can see a shred of hope for our

future. Money cannot be worn, nor eaten, nor does it heal our wounds or

provide us with shelter- how did it get to be such a powerful force?

Huggs,

zoe

Friday, November 3, 2006, 5:51:43 PM, you wrote:

> They say if it sounds to good to be true than it is, but not in

> this case. anything natural is better than synthetic man made junk.

> but man thinks he is better than nature so ofcourse things that are

> made naturally that are better for us will be put aside, not talked

> about and down as awful for you so that man makes their money and

> you get uill in the process. that's the short of it anyway. It's all

> about the money. if you want to read a lot of reasons why

> treadeu's book says that a lot. I haven't read the second book yet,

> but basically that is what it says. it's all about the money, I am

> mad as h*** and a few other main points but it's all aboutthe money

> would be a better title than natural cures, as the only " cures " is

> suggestions on dr's and specialists to go to. I think the 5th

> chapter is prettty good. but it does open your eyes to a lot f you

> didn't already know how aful man is to eacxh other and nature

> itself. sorry just kind of in a rampage mood.

> Stuck

> [lists] Re: How can it be?

> Go to the group website and look thru the older posts. Much information

there!

> Alobar

> On 10/31/06, galliganiduo <luckylot@...> wrote:

> > Ok, I am new to coconut oil use, virgin coconut oil to be exact. But

> > I have to say, I am skeptical, because how is it that something can be

> > SO wonderful, yet used SO infrequently by people? It seems too good

> > to be true! What are some of your experiences? I'd love to learn

> > more from real people on this topic.

> >

> >

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