Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 I have a suggestion (or two) for those who are REALLY bothered by " the ad. " Make a regular donation to LPA Today to offset printing costs. In fact, attach a rider to your donation declaring that it will discontinue if any more " midget petting zoo " ads are published. While we all agree that at best, the message on the T-shirt was misinterepreted, and at worst, it is vile, offensive and degrading, to continue to attack Cara, Danny, Dan or the LPA organization itself is counterproductive. Lets not lose sight of the fact that the officers of LPA volunteer their time and efforts to support the organization. Cara has spent a significant amount of her own personal time and energy (and perhaps money), to publish the newsletter. Having been a newspaper editor, I can assure you that things sometimes get lost in the shuffle, especially if deadlines are looming and resources are few. Editors (and VPs of Public Relations) are human. Like you all, they sometimes make mistakes. State your concern and MOVE ON. If you don't like something in the organization, instead this constant griping, do something productive. Volunteer your time and/or money to support LPA. As Matt Roloff can attest, sweat equity or real equity can be a powerful force for change. One final thought: There is no LPA " machine, " as one former executive officer, who shall remain nameless (but whose last name means " pain in the butt " ), would claim. It is a group of volunteers, doing the best they can, with limited resources. Bill Bradford Puget Sound Chapter President District 11 Newsletter Editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 In a message dated 6/6/2002 8:08:06 AM, tslug@... writes: << One final thought: There is no LPA " machine, " as one former executive officer, who shall remain nameless (but whose last name means " pain in the butt " ), would claim. It is a group of volunteers, doing the best they can, with limited resources. >> Dearest " Slug " I was not referring to any of the current elected officers as a " machine " . Rather those past officers that operate as a Shadow governing body. I think Cara has done a great job. I've known her a long time. I will say that I was disappointed in her allowing that particular ad since she has to explain the negative impact from the word " midget " on regular basis. If a reporter ever got a copy of LPA Today (which is rather easy) he might feel it's an OK word. The criticism was not of Cara, but of LPA as an organization and its policies. How can we say midget is a bad word, then promote its use by running an ad containing merchandise that exploits it? I think we assume the general population gets the " Irreverence " of " up yours " tone that shirt is mean to convey. My response that you are now picking apart was directed at funding. Not the Shirts. Not The ads. Not Cara. And Not you. Please if I mislead you or you took it the wrong way, I sincerely apologize and hope that one day you will learn to understand the sweet and tender human being that I really am. To be in the same airspace as someone of your intellect would truly be an honor and privilege. For experience shall be surpassed by a meeting with the great and mighty Buddha. TS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 In a message dated 6/6/2002 1:58:47 PM, Tony Soares551 writes: << (but whose last name means " pain in the butt " ), >> One could take that as a slight against the Latin American community. the name is pronounced SUAREZ! not SOREZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Bradford wrote: > While we all agree that at best, the message on the T-shirt was > misinterepreted, and at worst, it is vile, offensive and degrading, to > continue to attack Cara, Danny, Dan or the LPA organization itself is > counterproductive. Lets not lose sight of the fact that the officers of > LPA volunteer their time and efforts to support the organization. Cara > has spent a significant amount of her own personal time and energy (and > perhaps money), to publish the newsletter. Having been a newspaper > editor, I can assure you that things sometimes get lost in the shuffle, > especially if deadlines are looming and resources are few. Editors (and > VPs of Public Relations) are human. Like you all, they sometimes make > mistakes. State your concern and MOVE ON. Amen. We all have a right to voice our opinions, but to continue to beat a dead horse in this manner is most definitely counterproductive. Get involved, and put your energy into helping, not criticizing. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 TonySoares551@... wrote: > >To be in the same airspace as someone of your intellect would truly be an >honor and privilege. For experience shall be surpassed by a meeting with the >great and mighty Buddha. > Why thank you! I'd have to agree! ;-) As my dad used to say, " I used to have one flaw, I was conceited. Now I'm perfect. " -Bill Bradford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 TonySoares551@... wrote: >In a message dated 6/6/2002 1:58:47 PM, Tony Soares551 writes: > ><< (but whose last name means " pain in >the butt " ), >> > >One could take that as a slight against the Latin American community. > One could...if they were a politically correct dogmatist with absolutely no sense of humor and the brain the size of a snow pea. > >the name is pronounced SUAREZ! > >not SOREZ > Excuse me, but I took Spanish in college and I know for a fact that Latin American cultures tend to spell their names the way they sound. My great grandfather, who immigrated from Germany, had the last name of Douche. It was pronounced " Duke " but was spelled like the feminine hygeine product. He changed his name to D-U-K-E. If you don't like how your name is pronounced, why don't you change the spelling. -Bill B-R-A-D-F-O-R-D (which in Old English is pronounced Braid Fjord, which comes from the Vikings meaning " twisted river. " ) p.s. Many people within LPA know me as " BJ. " Trust me, I've heard my share of jokes about my name. Get over yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2002 Report Share Posted June 6, 2002 I call him " Beeeeg " spelled BJjj, as a term of endearment... I like both you guys... Quit your bickering, or I'll invite you both to dance with me in SLC, ....at the same time. Re: Here's a thought.... > TonySoares551@... wrote: > > >In a message dated 6/6/2002 1:58:47 PM, Tony Soares551 writes: > > > ><< (but whose last name means " pain in > >the butt " ), >> > > > >One could take that as a slight against the Latin American community. > > > One could...if they were a politically correct dogmatist with absolutely > no sense of humor and the brain the size of a snow pea. > > > > >the name is pronounced SUAREZ! > > > >not SOREZ > > > Excuse me, but I took Spanish in college and I know for a fact that > Latin American cultures tend to spell their names the way they sound. > My great grandfather, who immigrated from Germany, had the last name of > Douche. It was pronounced " Duke " but was spelled like the feminine > hygeine product. He changed his name to D-U-K-E. If you don't like how > your name is pronounced, why don't you change the spelling. > > -Bill B-R-A-D-F-O-R-D (which in Old English is pronounced Braid Fjord, > which comes from the Vikings meaning " twisted river. " ) > > p.s. Many people within LPA know me as " BJ. " Trust me, I've heard my > share of jokes about my name. Get over yourself. > > > > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 In a message dated 6/6/02 6:48:21 PM, tslug@... writes: << As my dad used to say, " I used to have one flaw, I was conceited. Now I'm perfect. " -Bill Bradford >> Welcome to the club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2002 Report Share Posted June 7, 2002 In a message dated 6/6/02 7:02:41 PM, tslug@... writes: << Excuse me, but I took Spanish in college and I know for a fact that Latin American cultures tend to spell their names the way they sound. >> look it up in fact Soares is spelled phenetically as; Suwar-esh to prove my point " Jesus " in spanish and portugese is pronounced 'He--seus' " ' is pronounced " hor-hey' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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