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I have taken my time at responding to the original post on Prof. Singer, not

because I agree with him.. but because as of late I have been hearing more and

more people who share his type of thoughts and that scares the hell out of me.

Three years ago I moved from central Florida to a nice quiet town in Michigan. I

remember the first weeks I was here my friend and I would walk downtown at

night, admiring the beauty and the small close nit atmosphere that appealed to

me. Our town has many small businesses that line our river street and most all

the buildings in that area are historical. I remember on one of our walks seeing

a middle aged lady walking toward us and I smiled at her. After she passed us my

friend told me she was our towns mayor and told me her name. A few weeks later,

I saw her again walking on our river walk. I told her how beautiful I thought

the town was and how much I had enjoyed being there. She thanked me and we went

in our different directions.

A few months ago, however, during one of our city counsel meetings are mayor

said on the record that she agreed with Hitler, that all people born with

disabilities should be put to sleep. In all the years that I have been alive,

never once had I heard anyone say anything like that. And now, when I hear about

Singer and his beliefs and the beliefs of my own community leaders, it scares

me. What have we come to? I know history has a way of repeating itself, is that

what is going to happen again?

I was born with OI, my father had OI and was also a dwarf. He was 41 when I was

born and I was his only child. But in the time we were together, he taught me

that there were others who had disabilities worse than my own, and he was right!

Ignorance, bigotry and hate are the biggest disabilities I have ever known.

As far as our mayor is concerned, she is losing her office next election. Not

only had she insulted the disabled community, but also the American Vets as

well. I just feel sad, that people have to be so cruel in their beliefs.

Sincerely,

Ally

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In a message dated 2/21/02 12:33:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rickvargas1@... writes:

> I watched. I recorded it for hubby to watch when he got home from work. Told

> him that if he found a table in the t.v. I could not be held accountable

> LOL ;)

LOL Sandy!! Duff was out and called during the interview. I told him I

was SO HOT!!!! He said.. " I like you that way " ....I said... " NOT THAT KIND OF

HOT " ....LOLOL

Donna

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In a message dated 2/21/2002 8:48:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

duffey48@... writes:

> Did you watch a? Anyone else? Is he evil, or what? I actually got

> shaky watching him talk so calmly last night. And he's such a hypocrit.

> His mother has alzheimers. He surely doesn't practice what he preaches!!!

>

> You can write to President Shapiro at Princeton with your views. Course,

> Singer could care less about what we think, but maybe if we stir this pot

> again and bombard them with letters....oh well. Send them to your local

> papers as well!!

Hi All,

I did watch this last night and just the thought that he is instilling these

philosophies to college students made me sick. We spend our lives teaching

our typical children and the rest of the world compassion and patience and

then to listen to this. I wonder what the parents of his students feel about

this.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ?

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I watched. I recorded it for hubby to watch when he got home from work. Told him

that if he found a table in the t.v. I could not be held accountable LOL ;)

He truly is evil. I wonder if he's ever had an original thought ever though. He

thinks he's special for what he says. A) He doesn't even practice what he

preaches as evidenced in the interview B) He cannot even remain consistant in

his beliefs... i.e. animals are not below humans... ever human life can be

measured and valued... but he's telling us that our disabled children have less

value than a... chicken?

Come on now. Sigh.

Ending rant.

Sandy

mom to le (5, ds-asd) and Adam (2)

Singer

In a message dated 2/20/02 7:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mashawnag@... writes:

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> hey ive set the remeinder and everything, wating for

>

Did you watch a? Anyone else? Is he evil, or what? I actually got

shaky watching him talk so calmly last night. And he's such a hypocrit.

His mother has alzheimers. He surely doesn't practice what he preaches!!!

You can write to President Shapiro at Princeton with your views. Course,

Singer could care less about what we think, but maybe if we stir this pot

again and bombard them with letters....oh well. Send them to your local

papers as well!!

Donna

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Oh Donna,

Thanks for the laughs. Yep! Leave it to Donna,lol.

Irma

Re: Singer

In a message dated 2/21/02 12:33:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rickvargas1@... writes:

> I watched. I recorded it for hubby to watch when he got home from work. Told

> him that if he found a table in the t.v. I could not be held accountable

> LOL ;)

LOL Sandy!! Duff was out and called during the interview. I told him I

was SO HOT!!!! He said.. " I like you that way " ....I said... " NOT THAT KIND OF

HOT " ....LOLOL

Donna

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fwiw -- I posted this link as part of a thread started by

Hokkanen way back (search message # 22090)

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/010/31.48.html

religious leanings aside, I think it's a good read.

>

> I tried to find the interview I had read from Singer,

> which occured after he was appointed to the bio-ethcs

> chair and the first round of protesting had commenced,

> but I couldn't locate the text. I found plenty that

> mentions his earlier work on the subject, which

> referenced parental euthanasia of infants up to 1

> month in age. The three year was in his explanation

> of the idea in the interview that introduced me to

> Singer's proposition.

>

> I recall at the time be astounded that Princeton would

> promote a man with his ideas to the position of

> bio-ethics chair, considering at that time Princeton's

> psyche dept. served autistic (and other children) in

> the school districts surrounding the college at no

> cost to the families and at minimal cost to the

> schools. It just seemed to be a total disconnect for

> the two things to occur at the same school.

>

> Here is what I was able to google. Still inhuman in

> my opinion, but then again, I place a very high value

> on the lives of innocent people.

>

> http://www.euthanasia.com/prince.html

>

> http://www.reason.com/news/show/27886.html

>

>

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>

>

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my apologies - current link to same article (archived)...

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/october/28.48.html

> >

> > I tried to find the interview I had read from Singer,

> > which occured after he was appointed to the bio-ethcs

> > chair and the first round of protesting had commenced,

> > but I couldn't locate the text. I found plenty that

> > mentions his earlier work on the subject, which

> > referenced parental euthanasia of infants up to 1

> > month in age. The three year was in his explanation

> > of the idea in the interview that introduced me to

> > Singer's proposition.

> >

> > I recall at the time be astounded that Princeton would

> > promote a man with his ideas to the position of

> > bio-ethics chair, considering at that time Princeton's

> > psyche dept. served autistic (and other children) in

> > the school districts surrounding the college at no

> > cost to the families and at minimal cost to the

> > schools. It just seemed to be a total disconnect for

> > the two things to occur at the same school.

> >

> > Here is what I was able to google. Still inhuman in

> > my opinion, but then again, I place a very high value

> > on the lives of innocent people.

> >

> > http://www.euthanasia.com/prince.html

> >

> > http://www.reason.com/news/show/27886.html

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

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> > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > http://www./r/hs

> >

>

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Singer sounds like a eugenical Tony Soprano. For anyone who

saw the series, Soprano does next to nothing when one of his

soldiers murders a pregnant twenty-year old girl with his bare

hands. Lots of people are bumped off and Soprano couldn't care less.

But when the same soldier deliberately kills a horse, Soprano goes

into a rage and personally beats the soldier to death.

It was a really remarkable observation by the series' writers: there

are some monstrous people who cry broken-heartedly over animal

suffering.

Singer got the Professorship of **Bioethics** at the university's

Center for **Human Values**???!!!!!

>

> I tried to find the interview I had read from Singer,

> which occured after he was appointed to the bio-ethcs

> chair and the first round of protesting had commenced,

> but I couldn't locate the text. I found plenty that

> mentions his earlier work on the subject, which

> referenced parental euthanasia of infants up to 1

> month in age. The three year was in his explanation

> of the idea in the interview that introduced me to

> Singer's proposition.

>

> I recall at the time be astounded that Princeton would

> promote a man with his ideas to the position of

> bio-ethics chair, considering at that time Princeton's

> psyche dept. served autistic (and other children) in

> the school districts surrounding the college at no

> cost to the families and at minimal cost to the

> schools. It just seemed to be a total disconnect for

> the two things to occur at the same school.

>

> Here is what I was able to google. Still inhuman in

> my opinion, but then again, I place a very high value

> on the lives of innocent people.

>

> http://www.euthanasia.com/prince.html

>

> http://www.reason.com/news/show/27886.html

>

>

>

>

>

_____________________________________________________________________

_______________

> Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> http://www./r/hs

>

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