Re: More comments from Implant websites

[Guest guest]

I agreee with this completely. I don't ever expect any compensation,

it has nothing to do with money for me at all, besides who can

compensate us for our health? there is no compensation, but it is sad

and pathetic that no one has done any accurate studies or even seems

to care.

Are any of us in any studies?

I spoke with one women who actually was in a supposed silicone gel

implant study, well 3 or 4 months after getting her gel implants she

started getting sick, the study she was in didn't do anything, they

told her it was not related...can you believe it and she was in a

study? SO what is the point of these studies and who are they even

studying?

I am so confused. Makes no sense. It is all about $$$$$$$ and feeding

off womens insecurities. It is really sad, but eventually these

people behind this will pay for the crimes agains women they have

comitted, it just may not be in this lifetime, there is, I am so

sure, a place in for them in hell.

In @y..., " Patty " <fdp@l...> wrote:

> http://www.internet-connect.com/implants/comments.html

>

> I am a 3rd year medical student, struggling to get through the

physically rigorous clinical clerkships (I am a good student-- scored

in top 5 % on national boards) because of chronic fatigue syndrome

(CHANGE THE NAME!) and fibromyalgia. These illnesses began in 1993, 4

years after I had Mentor silicone breast implants put in. For years,

I pooh-poohed and exercised denial regarding the risks of silicone.

But once I opened my eyes and saw that the complaints of women with

SBI were the SAME as MINE,

>

> I began to frantically dig through the scientific literature. I was

and am deeply disturbed that proper studies of the risks have yet to

be done. The Mayo clinic has just perpetrated an unforgivable crime

on the medical and scientific world by publishing their most recent

study on " local complications " of SBI, in which they FORGET to say

that their prior (much quoted by implant manufacturers) study

of " classical " connective tissue disease and SBI DID NOT EXAMINE THE

RISK of " non-classical " diseases, eg CFS and FM (the very illnesses

most often claimed to be related to SBI, and the FORGOT to tell the

reader than their sample size was too small to find even a doubling

of risk of the rare disease scleroderma. Maybe their selective memory

was related to the support they received from implant manufactur-

ers? (This support is acknowledged on the first page of the article).

Worse, to me, is that the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE would

publish this article with its clear corporate bias in place.

>

> I have seen sufficient evidence in the scientific and medical

literature to convince me that there is a real and likely possibility

that silicone can cause immune related disorders. That proper

epidemiological studies have not yet been done is NOT PROOF that

there is no problem. Opponents of silicone disease theory cite

the " monetary motivations " of the sick women.This ignores the fact

that a lot of these sick women have lost their livelihood and have to

fight tooth and nail just to get meager disability benefits. For the

vast majority, significant compen- sation from implant manufacturers

remains a distant dream (Dow bankruptcy) or impossibility (Mentor

settlement allowed a maximum of $1500 compensation per patient--

doesn't even pay the cost of explantation).

>

> As an " implant victim " I don't expect to reap millions. But I would

like knowledge about silicone related disease to be viewed

objectively, so that thousands of people can get appropriate medical

care, support and disability benefits, and so that research can begin

on TREATMENT for these illnesses.

[Guest guest]

,

I have yet to meet anyone who has been in a bonafide study done to find out

what is wrong with us. I have heard strange things about the manufacturer

studies, such as dropping women from them when they show signs of illness.

It is all sick science, skewed by the quest for corporate profits.

I agree that we may not see justice in our lifetimes, (I hope we will!), but

in the end, those who pick profits over the health of women will get what

they deserve.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: <cjheer@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:36 AM

Subject: Re: More comments from Implant websites

> I agreee with this completely. I don't ever expect any compensation,

> it has nothing to do with money for me at all, besides who can

> compensate us for our health? there is no compensation, but it is sad

> and pathetic that no one has done any accurate studies or even seems

> to care.

>

> Are any of us in any studies?

>

> I spoke with one women who actually was in a supposed silicone gel

> implant study, well 3 or 4 months after getting her gel implants she

> started getting sick, the study she was in didn't do anything, they

> told her it was not related...can you believe it and she was in a

> study? SO what is the point of these studies and who are they even

> studying?

>

> I am so confused. Makes no sense. It is all about $$$$$$$ and feeding

> off womens insecurities. It is really sad, but eventually these

> people behind this will pay for the crimes agains women they have

> comitted, it just may not be in this lifetime, there is, I am so

> sure, a place in for them in hell.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In @y..., " Patty " <fdp@l...> wrote:

> > http://www.internet-connect.com/implants/comments.html

> >

> > I am a 3rd year medical student, struggling to get through the

> physically rigorous clinical clerkships (I am a good student-- scored

> in top 5 % on national boards) because of chronic fatigue syndrome

> (CHANGE THE NAME!) and fibromyalgia. These illnesses began in 1993, 4

> years after I had Mentor silicone breast implants put in. For years,

> I pooh-poohed and exercised denial regarding the risks of silicone.

> But once I opened my eyes and saw that the complaints of women with

> SBI were the SAME as MINE,

> >

> > I began to frantically dig through the scientific literature. I was

> and am deeply disturbed that proper studies of the risks have yet to

> be done. The Mayo clinic has just perpetrated an unforgivable crime

> on the medical and scientific world by publishing their most recent

> study on " local complications " of SBI, in which they FORGET to say

> that their prior (much quoted by implant manufacturers) study

> of " classical " connective tissue disease and SBI DID NOT EXAMINE THE

> RISK of " non-classical " diseases, eg CFS and FM (the very illnesses

> most often claimed to be related to SBI, and the FORGOT to tell the

> reader than their sample size was too small to find even a doubling

> of risk of the rare disease scleroderma. Maybe their selective memory

> was related to the support they received from implant manufactur-

> ers? (This support is acknowledged on the first page of the article).

> Worse, to me, is that the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE would

> publish this article with its clear corporate bias in place.

> >

> > I have seen sufficient evidence in the scientific and medical

> literature to convince me that there is a real and likely possibility

> that silicone can cause immune related disorders. That proper

> epidemiological studies have not yet been done is NOT PROOF that

> there is no problem. Opponents of silicone disease theory cite

> the " monetary motivations " of the sick women.This ignores the fact

> that a lot of these sick women have lost their livelihood and have to

> fight tooth and nail just to get meager disability benefits. For the

> vast majority, significant compen- sation from implant manufacturers

> remains a distant dream (Dow bankruptcy) or impossibility (Mentor

> settlement allowed a maximum of $1500 compensation per patient--

> doesn't even pay the cost of explantation).

> >

> > As an " implant victim " I don't expect to reap millions. But I would

> like knowledge about silicone related disease to be viewed

> objectively, so that thousands of people can get appropriate medical

> care, support and disability benefits, and so that research can begin

> on TREATMENT for these illnesses.

>

>

>