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" Cassandra Casey " <israelswarrior@...>

Subject: Re: Virginia Tech Killings - Mixed Media Messages on Gunman's Use

of Antidepressants

Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:59:21 +0100

CASSIE, re you said this:

" And, pay close attention to the ABC report - where " senior federal

officials tell ABC News that they can find no record of such medication in

the government's files.... " and that " the sources say theirs is a

reasonably complete search. "

Just found this:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/4/18/222617/717

Abuse of the Federal Prescription Database Law

By Jeralyn, Section Legislation

Posted on Wed Apr 18, 2007 at 09:26:17 PM EST

Tags: privacy rights (all tags)

Bumped and Updated with new information, scroll down.

AmericaBlog picks up on this ABC News report on the Virginia Tech shooter

that says there may have been a gap in the federal database regarding his

medications:

Some news accounts have suggested that Cho had a history of

antidepressant use, but senior federal officials tell ABC News that they can

find no record of such medication in the government's files. This does not

completely rule out prescription drug use, including samples from a

physician, drugs obtained through illegal Internet sources, or a gap in the

federal database, but the sources say theirs is a reasonably complete

search.

asks, what database? Does the Government keep a list of all of our

prescriptions?

The answer is yes. I reported on it in 2005 when Bush signed the bill

creating the electronic database:

More...

I quoted from a news article which is no longer online:

President Bush signed into law a bill to create electronic monitoring

programs to prevent the abuse of prescription drugs in all 50 states.

The new law creates a grant program for states to create databases and

enhance existing ones in hopes of ending the practice of " doctor shopping "

by drug abusers seeking multiple prescriptions. It would authorize $60

million for the program through fiscal 2010.

The bill, signed late Thursday at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch,

was sponsored by Rep. Ed Whitfield, a Republican representing Kentucky's 1st

District.

And there you have it. Yes, every prescription you get is logged in a

federal database.

Update: Thanks to the commenter below who pointed out Glenn Greenwald's

explanation of the database today.

Update: Aravosis at AmericaBlog has more:

The federal database of your private medical information is now being

used by federal law enforcement to investigate crimes that have nothing to

do with prescription drug abuse. We know this because yesterday ABC News

disclosed that the feds checked the database to see what prescription meds

the Virginia Tech shooter might have been on. How does the mass murder of

students and faculty at Virginia Tech have anything to do with prescription

drug abuse? It doesn't. "

Virginia Tech Killings - Mixed Media Messages on Gunman's Use of

Antidepressants

Hello friends,

I've been scouring the net, trying to find everything I can that will

give any clue as to WHICH

drug(s) the gunman was using at the time of the killings.

Do any of you doubt that just as with all the other tragic campus

shootings/mass murders we have witnessed - this young, troubled man had most

likely sought " help " - and the help given him was a prescription for an

antidepressant or other psychotropic toxic drug(s) - that resulted in him

experiencing adverse reactions - reactions like anger, hostility, mania,

psychosis... ???

Interesting how the various media outlets tend to handle this " delicate "

subject - for many of them, its simply taboo (too much invested in them by

big pharma... )

ABC is the worst offender - and MSN gets a big thumbs down for completely

side-stepping the question.

Personally, I think Cho Seung-Hui's own roommate is probably the most

credible witness to this point - he speaks of how he observed Cho going

about his daily routine - applying lotion, inserting his contact lenses and

taking his " medication " on the morning of the killings.

And, pay close attention to the ABC report - where " senior federal

officials tell ABC News that they can find no record of such medication in

the government's files.... " and that " the sources say theirs is a

reasonably complete search. "

hmmm..... just how much does our government officials know about each

one of us? If they even know what medications we take, do they also know

which salad dressing we prefer?

Come to your own conclusions:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108 & page=2

A 'Troubled' Young Man

Some news accounts have suggested that Cho had a history of

antidepressant use, but senior federal officials tell ABC News that they can

find no record of such medication in the government's files. This does not

completely rule out prescription drug use, including samples from a

physician, drugs obtained through illegal Internet sources, or a gap in the

federal database, but the sources say theirs is a reasonably complete

search.

My comment: [[ Who are these " senior federal officials " , and does the

government keep files on the medications everyone uses??? ]]

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/17/AR2007041700563.\

html?hpid=topnews

Authorities found two three-page notes in his dorm room after the shootings.

They weren't suicide notes and provided no clue about why he did what he

did. Instead, they were expletive-filled rants against the rich and

privileged, even naming people who he thought had kept him down, federal and

state law enforcement sources said. Two government officials said he had

been treated for mental health problems.

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http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612772.shtml

The Virginia Tech shooter has been identified. Cho Seung-Hui has been

called a 'jealous boyfriend' by reporters and was reportedly on

anti-depressant medication. He was a loner, and after the murders he

committed suicide. A report from the Chicago Tribune claims he left a

suicide note. According to reports, the killings started with his former

girlfriend, and he gunned her down in a dormitory in a jealous rage.

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http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21275450.shtml

Cho Seung-Hui has been identified as the Virginia Tech shooter. Virginia

Tech shooter/student Cho Seung-Hui was labeled a 'jealous boyfriend' by

reporters and was also allegedly under the influence of anti-depressant

medication. Seung-Hui was reportedly a loner, and after he finished his

evil deed, he committed suicide.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-virginia-tech-shooting,0,6\

682911.story

News reports said that he may have been taking medication for depression and

that he was becoming increasingly violent and erratic.

" When we read Cho's plays, it was like something out of a nightmare. The

plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have

even thought of, " former classmate Ian MacFarlane, now an AOL employee,

wrote in a blog posted on an AOL Web site. He said he and other students

" were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a

school shooter. "

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http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/17/breaking-abc-news-ids-gunman-as-seung-hui-\

cho/

Update: A bombshell from the ChiTrib:

It was 5:30 Monday morning and Karan Grewal was finishing a break after a

long night of cramming for his classes at Virginia Tech. As he left the

bathroom at Harper Hall, his dormitory mate, Cho Sueng-Hui, wearing boxer

shorts and a T-shirt, entered for his morning ritual of applying lotion,

inserting his contact lenses and taking his medication.

" He was, like, normal, " Grewal, a 21-year-old accounting major, said today,

describing the ordinary start to what turned out to be an extraordinary day.

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http://edition.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2007/04/17/todd.bo\

mb.threat.scene.cnn

Note: In this CNN news video clip, the commentator does say that the gunman

had a " history of mental illness':

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/virginia-tech-loners-murderous-rage/2007/04/\

18/1176696869631.html#

Cho had shown recent signs of violent, aberrant behaviour, including setting

a fire in a dorm room and allegedly stalking some women, the Chicago Tribune

said, citing an unnamed investigative source.

Investigators believe Cho at some point had been taking medication for

depression, the daily said.