Re: Antidepressant: Purcell murder: Expert speaks: Oklahoma

[Guest guest]

Sorry but I never had any hallucinations on massive doses of

SSRI drugs, just bad nightmares .

In the day , thoughts of suicide were common for

years , but only on zoloft , resperidone , and triazadone

together .

Then the zpams added too did I have any thoughts of harming others.

Suicidal thoughts are the most common thoughts while on

any psych meds .

The homicidal thoughts are usually complete disreguard for life.

The user doesnt care if he harms or not .

Its the apathy the SSRI causes .

We told them this as they were devloping them .

In fact in front of groups of them behind glass .

They were too stupid to know ,

we would lie for our lives and freedom .

Most of us had learned in terrible ways what Psychiatry was

well before SSRIs were even on the market .

The studies are so flawed its _____.

Im sure you can undrstand the frustration on this .

There were many other side effects we were

This was during a doctor cut of daily 48mg phernazine ,

I had been using for nearly 26 years .

The SSRIs were after the anti depressant phase of

psychiatry prior to the " New Meds " SSRIs , as the

addicts referred to them as .

Doxipin and the triptalines , were the 80s Psych fad push .

Then the SSRI push of the 90s and today.

I never had hallucinations off hundreds and hundreds of mg doses

a day for 27 years .

I wonder about this ???

I never knew others who had hallucinations either of huge doses .

Cassandra Casey <israelswarrior@...> wrote:

http://www.normantranscript.com/localnews/local_story_118003539?keyword=topstory

Expert: Antidepressant behind Purcell murder

The Norman Transcript

Transcript Staff Writer

Ann Blake said when she first heard about the April 12 murder of

10-year-old Rose Bolin, she " knew SSRI antidepressants were involved. "

She said her fears were confirmed when she contacted Connie Underwood, the

mother of accused suspect Underwood, and Mrs. Underwood told her that

had been on the antidepressant Lexapro and, after having quit Lexapro

in September 2004, had begun taking the drug again in February 2006.?

" He had been taking Lexapro a little over six weeks before he committed this

murder, " said.

The crime attracted national attention due to grisly details revealed in the

days following the murder by police and public officials.

Authorities said they believe Underwood, 26, a downstairs neighbor, lured

the girl into his apartment, struck her several times over her head with a

wooden cutting board and suffocated her with his hands and duct tape.

Investigators said Underwood sexually assaulted the little girl after he

killed her and planned to eat the corpse.

On a motion by defense attorneys, McClain County Special District Judge

Barger April 18 issued a gag order that applies to attorneys on both sides,

law enforcement, court officials and anyone else who deals in an official

capacity with the case.

, who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, said she expects to be called as a

witness in the case, and did not want to discuss specifics of the case or

her conversation with Mrs. Underwood.

is executive director of the International Coalition for Drug

Awareness (www.drugawareness.org). She has a doctorate in health sciences

with the emphasis on psychology.

The author of " Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? -- Our Serotonin Nightmare, "

has testified in court cases involving antidepressants for 13 years.

Examples of the more high profile cases she's worked on include the

murder/suicide of comedian Phil Hartman and his wife Brynn, the Columbine

and Red Lake High School shootings, the Yates case, in which the

Houston mother methodically drowned her five children, and the Atlanta Day

Trader and Connecticut Lottery workplace shootings.

" The last 16 years of my life have been devoted to researching and writing

about SSRI antidepressants, " she said. " These are extremely dangerous drugs

that should be banned as similar drugs have been banned in the past. "

said the brain chemical these drugs increase, serotonin, is the same

brain chemical that LSD, PCP and other psychedelic drugs mimic in order to

produce their hallucinogenic effects.

Changes in serotonin levels can produce adverse reactions including

aggression, depression, hostility, hyperactivity, psychosis,

self-destructive behavior, tension and anxiety, vivid and violent dreams, an

inability to tell dreams from reality, an inability to feel emotions,

suicide -- especially very violent suicide, impulsive behavior with no

concern for punishment and argumentative behavior.

" Increasing serotonin -- which is what these drugs are designed to do --

induces both nightmares and sleepwalk, " she said.

It is believed that the high serotonin levels overstimulate the brain stem

leading to a lack of muscle paralysis during sleep, thus allowing the

patient to act out the dreams or nightmares they are having, said.

" The world witnessed that clearly in the Zoloft-induced murder-suicide of

comedian Phil Hartman and his wife, Brynn, " she said. " Patients report over

and over again that they have lived out their worst nightmares. And as with

sleepwalk episodes, many have no recall or little recall of what they have

done. "

The Food and Drug Administration in 2004 asked manufacturers to put detailed

warnings about a possible increased risk of suicidal behavior and the need

for monitoring on the labels of 10 antidepressants: Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil,

Wellbutrin, Luvox, Celexa, Lexapro, Effexor, Serzone and Remeron. The

warning included both children and adults.

In his blog writings on the Internet, Underwood wrote about his depression

and feelings of being socially inept:

" Pretty much the only time I believe in God is when I want to blame Him for

something. Or, when I'm really depressed, to cry and beg him to make me

better, to make whatever is wrong in my brain go away, so that I can live

like a normal person.

" That's all I want in life, is to be able to live like a normal person. "

And:

" I've been really bad again lately. I need to have the doctor write me a

prescription for more Lexapro or something, and start taking that again. I

wonder if they even still make Lexapro? I checked some of those online

pharmacies, to see if I could get it cheaper from Canada or something, but

none of them I've looked at have it. They have five or six other

antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications, but not that one. "

In September 2004, Underwood wrote that his depression deepened after

several months without taking Lexapro:

" For example, my fantasies are just getting weirder and weirder. Dangerously

weird. If people knew the kinds of things I think about anymore, I'd

probably be locked away. No probably about it, I know I would be. "

Underwood said he had five refills of Lexapro left when he quit taking the

drug in September 2004, said.

" So, for the last year, year and a half, he was probably taking those, and

going off and on the drug. The FDA issued a warning that when taking these

SSRI antidepressants, any abrupt change in dose can result in suicide,

psychosis or hostility -- their word to describe homicide, " said.

This past year the FDA has been forced to publicly agree with on

several issues regarding the serious dangers of antidepressants. They have

placed the strongest warnings on the drugs next to banning them -- a black

box warning pointing out the doubling of suicide attempts while taking any

anti-depressant. Along with that warning came warnings of worsening of

depression in the initial use, and suicide attempt, mania and hostility with

any abrupt change in dose whether it be up or down.

" How anyone ever thought it would be therapeutic to chemically induce these

reactions is beyond me. Yet, these reactions are exactly what we have

witnessed in our society over the past decade and a half as a result of the

widespread use of these drugs, " said.

Lexapro, the newest and fastest-growing SSRI anti-depressant, has been

prescribed for more than 8 million adults in the United States.

Underwood, charged with first-degree murder, has no previous criminal

record. Judge Barger entered a plea of " not guilty " on his behalf and

appointed Silas Lyman, capital trial division chief for the Oklahoma

Indigent Defense System, and OIDS attorney Diane Box to represent Underwood.

Prosecutors say they intend to seek the death penalty.

Underwood is being held without bond in the McClain County Jail. A

preliminary hearing conference is scheduled for 9 a.m. May 3.

Tom Blakey 366-3540 tblakey@...