Information request

January 10, 2001

Elaine,

is also 4 yrs old and i have been told by school officials that he will

also need speech therapy when he starts school. its also hard for anyone to

keep jared's attention for a great length of time and he is also very active.

my nephew is ADHD. he had to be tested by more then a therapist to come up

with that dx. Best bet is for melissa to talk to her peds dr. about the 2

year old. i feel that a child will speak when they are good and ready. i have

to agree with you about the therapist. not some one i would take seriously.

sure hope you do get down this way.

shelly

January 11, 2001

attention deficit and hyperactivity are said to be

chemical imballances. my friend is grown and still has

these but they are under controll her daughter has

them too instead of the medication she uses diet the

doc told her to eliminate things like chocolate

,caffine and sugar .the article that was passed

arround this week find wich foods react with her and

then cut them out of her diet.add food to her diet

that helps her calm her thaughts. try having a tea

party with camomile tea . my persoonal opinion is

that this little girl has a lot to say and just can't

get it out yet...

just my 2 cents

rhoda

--- Elaine <elainer@...> wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> My daughter just called me. She had her 4 year old

> daughter evaluated for " speech therapy " .

>

> The therapist said that Brittany has a MUCH larger

> vocabulary than a 4 year old usually does, but that

> she does not concentrate when she talks, therefore,

> the words she uses are difficult to understand.

> While she was testing Brittany, Brittany would not

> look her in the eyes and was constantly moving,

> eyes,

> hands, body, etc. (was not focused is how she put

> it)

>

> The therapist said that she believes that Brittany

> has AHAD. She gave , (my daughter) advice

> on the best ways to teach Brittany (using all three

> senses.. eyes, hearing and hands) since is

> home schooling both Brittany and her sister

> (age 6). The therapist said that she will NOT

> recommend speech therapy for Brittany right now, as

> it would be impossible to " hold her attention " , but

> if it doesn't improve by fall, they will re-evaluate

> her. The therapist wants to talk to her

> pediatrician about putting Brittany on medication.

> won't go that route.

>

> Anybody have any suggestions? We are particularly

> interested in a possible connection with DIET.

> Brittany HAS been tested for allergies.. and that

> is NOT the problem. She also had her tonsils and

> adenoids removed, but I think that she had already

> started to mispronounce the words before that and

> believe that she just hasn't yet " relearned " the

> words, but we will see.

>

> , 2, also went with and Brittany

> today,

> because he raised a fit about " staying home " . The

> therapist says that he is " developmentally behind "

> because even though he UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING, he

> is not yet speaking in sentences.. (he doesn't HAVE

> to.. everyone tries to avoid his temper tantrums and

> anticipates what he wants!!) (Can you tell that I

> am

> not all that impressed with the therapist????)

>

> The beginning of March I will be going down to

> Mobile

> and staying with , , and three of my

> grandchildren, hopefully, for 5 weeks if I can get

> my own medical problems under some kind of decent

> control!

>

> Any suggestions will be appreciated.

> elaine

>

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January 11, 2001

Dear Friends,

My daughter just called me. She had her 4 year old

daughter evaluated for " speech therapy " .

The therapist said that Brittany has a MUCH larger

vocabulary than a 4 year old usually does, but that

she does not concentrate when she talks, therefore,

the words she uses are difficult to understand.

While she was testing Brittany, Brittany would not

look her in the eyes and was constantly moving, eyes,

hands, body, etc. (was not focused is how she put it)

The therapist said that she believes that Brittany

has AHAD. She gave , (my daughter) advice

on the best ways to teach Brittany (using all three

senses.. eyes, hearing and hands) since is

home schooling both Brittany and her sister

(age 6). The therapist said that she will NOT

recommend speech therapy for Brittany right now, as

it would be impossible to " hold her attention " , but

if it doesn't improve by fall, they will re-evaluate

her. The therapist wants to talk to her

pediatrician about putting Brittany on medication.

won't go that route.

Anybody have any suggestions? We are particularly

interested in a possible connection with DIET.

Brittany HAS been tested for allergies.. and that

is NOT the problem. She also had her tonsils and

adenoids removed, but I think that she had already

started to mispronounce the words before that and

believe that she just hasn't yet " relearned " the

words, but we will see.

, 2, also went with and Brittany today,

because he raised a fit about " staying home " . The

therapist says that he is " developmentally behind "

because even though he UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING, he

is not yet speaking in sentences.. (he doesn't HAVE

to.. everyone tries to avoid his temper tantrums and

anticipates what he wants!!) (Can you tell that I am

not all that impressed with the therapist????)

The beginning of March I will be going down to Mobile

and staying with , , and three of my

grandchildren, hopefully, for 5 weeks if I can get

my own medical problems under some kind of decent

control!

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

elaine

January 11, 2001

Elaine,

I would tread very lightly with any therapy. Kids learn at different

paces, and if they think there is something wrong with them, it affects

their self esteme. The schools are to quick to put labels on kids. My son

was doing very well in school until the 3rd grade. He was reversing his

letters and they tested him for dyslexia, which runs in my family. Through

this test they decided he was not working up to his ability, and put him in

special classes. He was an A-B student! It destroyed his self esteme when

they pulled him out of his regular classes to go to what he called the

retard classes. I should have intervened, but I thought the school and all

their doctors knew better than I did.

If she has a wonderful vocabulary, she is probably above average

intelligence and just can't get out what she wants to say. It will come at

HER pace.

The school also wanted my son medicated. I refused. I found out that he

was allergic to red food coloring and sugar, and as long as I watched the

artificial coloring and his sugar content, he was more calm.

will know if her child needs medication, NOT any therapist.

Although you say allergy is not a problem, I recently found out that there

is a difference between allergy and intollerance. If you have a food

intollerance, it will not show up on an allergy test, but you will still

suffer from the effects.

The Feingold diet that posted has very good results. There are also

support groups that may help. I'll see what I can find. Tell to

follow her instincts because they are probably right.

a

January 11, 2001

Hi Elaine,

This is a long shot, but worth sharing I think. My daughter had a problem

with slow speech. At six months or so I took her to doctors in Missouri to

complain that she never stuck her tongue out like other babies. The docs

just patted me on the head and told me I worried too much. When she was

around 14 months old I moved to California. I immediately took her to a

doctor and he immediately told me she was tongue tied. He cut the web

beneath her tongue and told me she had never been able to make pre-speech

sounds. With speech therapy for a year in second grade, she caught up.

Eight years later when my son was born, the pediatrician cut a web from

under his tongue the day after he was born. Neither of my grandchildren --

my daughters children -- have inheirited this problem.

Good luck!

Patsy

-----Original Message-----

From: Elaine [mailto:elainer@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:30 PM

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Subject: [ ] Information request

Dear Friends,

My daughter just called me. She had her 4 year old

daughter evaluated for " speech therapy " .

The therapist said that Brittany has a MUCH larger

vocabulary than a 4 year old usually does, but that

she does not concentrate when she talks, therefore,

the words she uses are difficult to understand.

While she was testing Brittany, Brittany would not

look her in the eyes and was constantly moving, eyes,

hands, body, etc. (was not focused is how she put it)

The therapist said that she believes that Brittany

has AHAD. She gave , (my daughter) advice

on the best ways to teach Brittany (using all three

senses.. eyes, hearing and hands) since is

home schooling both Brittany and her sister

(age 6). The therapist said that she will NOT

recommend speech therapy for Brittany right now, as

it would be impossible to " hold her attention " , but

if it doesn't improve by fall, they will re-evaluate

her. The therapist wants to talk to her

pediatrician about putting Brittany on medication.

won't go that route.

Anybody have any suggestions? We are particularly

interested in a possible connection with DIET.

Brittany HAS been tested for allergies.. and that

is NOT the problem. She also had her tonsils and

adenoids removed, but I think that she had already

started to mispronounce the words before that and

believe that she just hasn't yet " relearned " the

words, but we will see.

, 2, also went with and Brittany today,

because he raised a fit about " staying home " . The

therapist says that he is " developmentally behind "

because even though he UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING, he

is not yet speaking in sentences.. (he doesn't HAVE

to.. everyone tries to avoid his temper tantrums and

anticipates what he wants!!) (Can you tell that I am

not all that impressed with the therapist????)

The beginning of March I will be going down to Mobile

and staying with , , and three of my

grandchildren, hopefully, for 5 weeks if I can get

my own medical problems under some kind of decent

control!

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

elaine

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December 12, 2009

I and Welcome,

I know how you feel and I think I know whats wrong. When you go on TRT Androdem

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are left with a rash. I needed HC cream to get this rash to heal and doing this

over and over again makes your skin thicker and the T in the patch dose not get

through your skin.

I would not waste my time seeing an Endo Dr.'s do this when they don't know

whats wrong the think Endo's are experts at this and they are not all they seam

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and not one was up on this they tell you they are but take my word for it they

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I talk to a lot of people everyday on the forums and I here sad things about men

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For one thing you have been on TRT for yrs. so seeing a Endo will not help

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Testosterone. So as time goes on they get smaller.

All you need to do is go to Dr. 's site www.allthingsmale.com and read TRT:

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Have him start you on Testosterone shots doing 100 mgs every week and add in

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After about 8 weeks do labs again and test your Estradiol E2 levels if high this

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Here is a good link to read in this it states to get your Total and Free T

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Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <johnpainter@...>

> Subject: information request

>

> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 1:09 PM

> I'm new to the group, so please

> forgive me if I'm not using the proper email/group protocol.

>

> A few days ago my doctor informed me that my testosterone

> level is 28....completely out of any normal range

> (350-1100?) for a 57 year old male. He indicated that

> he was " dumbfounded " , that he had never seen such a low

> level, and that we needed to see what is blocking production

> of the hormone. I will see an endocrinologist in late

> January to pursue this matter. By the way, I have been on

> two 5 mg/day Androderm patches for years now.

>

> I've tried to research this problem on the internet with

> little success. I did run across this group in that

> research, however.

>

> I'm worried, of course. Any advice or information on

> such a low level would be very helpful. I asked the doctor

> what might be causing this, and he said he didn't know....it

> might be something like a benign tumor. That wasn't

> comforting or helpful.

>

> Thank you, guys.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

December 12, 2009

,

If you came in the office with that level. I would want to have retest done

unless they did a repeat analysis to confirm. Most likely your specimen could

have been contaminated. Most likely it was a lab error. 5 mgs is not usually

enough for the average man and there may be other factors effecting absorption

such as hidden thyroid or adrenals issues which need to be ruled out. If you are

in the north eastern USA for contact info email me to get the proper help. If

you are in the mid west region please contact dr crisler as he is the best HRT

dr in midwest. Endocronologist you are probably just wasting your time and

prolonging your condition.

>

> I'm new to the group, so please forgive me if I'm not using the proper

email/group protocol.

>

> A few days ago my doctor informed me that my testosterone level is

28....completely out of any normal range (350-1100?) for a 57 year old male. He

indicated that he was " dumbfounded " , that he had never seen such a low level,

and that we needed to see what is blocking production of the hormone. I will

see an endocrinologist in late January to pursue this matter. By the way, I have

been on two 5 mg/day Androderm patches for years now.

>

> I've tried to research this problem on the internet with little success. I

did run across this group in that research, however.

>

> I'm worried, of course. Any advice or information on such a low level would

be very helpful. I asked the doctor what might be causing this, and he said he

didn't know....it might be something like a benign tumor. That wasn't

comforting or helpful.

>

> Thank you, guys.

>

December 12, 2009