Re: grapefruit juice and SSRIs

[Guest guest]

Jim ,

my doctors knew I was drinking grapefruit juice daily for

years, and never said a thing about it.

Inpatient psych gave grapefruit juice

after lunch, and also before bedtime , with the

meds .

I used it as a substitute for tobacco, and it worked .

I quit cigs, well before I quit psych meds.

They did give me warnings like this though.

oxazepam label.

Caution

" Federal law PROHIBITS the transfer of this drug

to any person other than the patient for whom

it was prescribed. "

Temazepam label

" WARNING; STATE and FEDERAL law,prohibits

the transfer of this drug to any person

other than the patient for whom it was

prescribed for .

Lorazepam the same caution warning or threat.

We have been dealing with drugs that

can turn illegal, in a matter of minutes .

These drugs , have no warning about the health hazards

Nothing zilch squat.

The rich, love these drugs for W/D from coke.

Adavan !!!!!! ta daaaaa rehab , hurry

im just a little fried ....tweekers

gimmie psych needa some now .

I got money , psychs got adavan...........

No wonder , so many , want the talk about illegal drugs

silenced .

All the zepam drugs I took had these labels.

Later my dear psych used blackmail against me

using these drugs as a lever for extortsion.

I refused , and later , was to be insulin coma shocked

to silence that crime , and many other crimes ,

commited by psychiatry.

These are the drugs, that are so addictive,

and later during W/D , make the legs feel like

the muscle is tearing off the bone.

These are the drugs that cause so much delierium.

Months and months of agony .

Odd , these labels are never on nuroleptics , which

cause horrible side effects so bad, it cripples us

into wheelchairs or coma.

Slobber shuffle drool .

The law is omission , and lying in our faces about these

drugs .

Who makes these ?

Who enforces the laws , about taking them,

and not taking them?

These drugs are legal/illegal.

I am legally registered to take them,

but If I give them to someone else

I am arrested .

So now back to the registration.

Back to the silence .

Back to the law that enforces us, to take them

or be locked up , or be locked up for passing them.

The users of these drugs , dont care about the law.

They become familiar with them over years time .

They forget cause the meds, make them forget .

When one of them who is an informer, tells the psych

or the law, everyone is informed , to promote fear .

How does fear go? Like this .

I count the pills to see how many I have left before

represcription , my finger prints are on them.

Later some jackass, comes into my home as a guest

and steals them, then is picked up with them

and my regestered finger prints are on them.

I have a knock on the door , or it is busted down.

Regestration , is a crock of shit.

Will my prescriber save me ?

The example is made, and there is no legal pity.

Well how long did a past clinical group member

get for passing these to a buddy ?

Last I heard he was still in the federal slammer

in the mental part , where bedlam is bedlam.

How many total drugs are we prescribed, that have these

labels but no warning about the side effects ?

The victims know all about the reasons why,

illegal drugs are not to be mentioned .

When psych blackmail comes , how many become informers

to continue their regestered prescriptions?

Deliver us from temptation ,

mein doktor hell giver .

I didnt mean it, but here I stand/sit/stand/sit

up /down / up/ down , an example

to my fellow victim/patients .

Behind bars in bedlam snake pit

for years .

Drugged so heavily I cant move .

Slobber, shuffle, drool, shake.

I believe the grapefruit was neglected , like the rest of

my body.

My mind of course, was turned into mush.

If that even exists, other than psych saying

" mind me , and the law " .

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

Did any of you guys doctors warn you about drinking grapefruit juice with

your antidepressants?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0320sci-grapefruit20-ON.html

Grapefruit juice can also interfere with the metabolism of selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, like Prozac, which are used to

treat depression.

Dr. Marshall Forstein, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, said

he told patients to switch from grapefruit juice to something else because

most oranges and other citrus fruits do not have the same effect.

[Guest guest]

Jim ,

my doctors knew I was drinking grapefruit juice daily for

years, and never said a thing about it.

Inpatient psych gave grapefruit juice

after lunch, and also before bedtime , with the

meds .

I used it as a substitute for tobacco, and it worked .

I quit cigs, well before I quit psych meds.

They did give me warnings like this though.

oxazepam label.

Caution

" Federal law PROHIBITS the transfer of this drug

to any person other than the patient for whom

it was prescribed. "

Temazepam label

" WARNING; STATE and FEDERAL law,prohibits

the transfer of this drug to any person

other than the patient for whom it was

prescribed for .

Lorazepam the same caution warning or threat.

We have been dealing with drugs that

can turn illegal, in a matter of minutes .

These drugs , have no warning about the health hazards

Nothing zilch squat.

The rich, love these drugs for W/D from coke.

Adavan !!!!!! ta daaaaa rehab , hurry

im just a little fried ....tweekers

gimmie psych needa some now .

I got money , psychs got adavan...........

No wonder , so many , want the talk about illegal drugs

silenced .

All the zepam drugs I took had these labels.

Later my dear psych used blackmail against me

using these drugs as a lever for extortsion.

I refused , and later , was to be insulin coma shocked

to silence that crime , and many other crimes ,

commited by psychiatry.

These are the drugs, that are so addictive,

and later during W/D , make the legs feel like

the muscle is tearing off the bone.

These are the drugs that cause so much delierium.

Months and months of agony .

Odd , these labels are never on nuroleptics , which

cause horrible side effects so bad, it cripples us

into wheelchairs or coma.

Slobber shuffle drool .

The law is omission , and lying in our faces about these

drugs .

Who makes these ?

Who enforces the laws , about taking them,

and not taking them?

These drugs are legal/illegal.

I am legally registered to take them,

but If I give them to someone else

I am arrested .

So now back to the registration.

Back to the silence .

Back to the law that enforces us, to take them

or be locked up , or be locked up for passing them.

The users of these drugs , dont care about the law.

They become familiar with them over years time .

They forget cause the meds, make them forget .

When one of them who is an informer, tells the psych

or the law, everyone is informed , to promote fear .

How does fear go? Like this .

I count the pills to see how many I have left before

represcription , my finger prints are on them.

Later some jackass, comes into my home as a guest

and steals them, then is picked up with them

and my regestered finger prints are on them.

I have a knock on the door , or it is busted down.

Regestration , is a crock of shit.

Will my prescriber save me ?

The example is made, and there is no legal pity.

Well how long did a past clinical group member

get for passing these to a buddy ?

Last I heard he was still in the federal slammer

in the mental part , where bedlam is bedlam.

How many total drugs are we prescribed, that have these

labels but no warning about the side effects ?

The victims know all about the reasons why,

illegal drugs are not to be mentioned .

When psych blackmail comes , how many become informers

to continue their regestered prescriptions?

Deliver us from temptation ,

mein doktor hell giver .

I didnt mean it, but here I stand/sit/stand/sit

up /down / up/ down , an example

to my fellow victim/patients .

Behind bars in bedlam snake pit

for years .

Drugged so heavily I cant move .

Slobber, shuffle, drool, shake.

I believe the grapefruit was neglected , like the rest of

my body.

My mind of course, was turned into mush.

If that even exists, other than psych saying

" mind me , and the law " .

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

Did any of you guys doctors warn you about drinking grapefruit juice with

your antidepressants?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0320sci-grapefruit20-ON.html

Grapefruit juice can also interfere with the metabolism of selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, like Prozac, which are used to

treat depression.

Dr. Marshall Forstein, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, said

he told patients to switch from grapefruit juice to something else because

most oranges and other citrus fruits do not have the same effect.

[Guest guest]

Jim ,

my doctors knew I was drinking grapefruit juice daily for

years, and never said a thing about it.

Inpatient psych gave grapefruit juice

after lunch, and also before bedtime , with the

meds .

I used it as a substitute for tobacco, and it worked .

I quit cigs, well before I quit psych meds.

They did give me warnings like this though.

oxazepam label.

Caution

" Federal law PROHIBITS the transfer of this drug

to any person other than the patient for whom

it was prescribed. "

Temazepam label

" WARNING; STATE and FEDERAL law,prohibits

the transfer of this drug to any person

other than the patient for whom it was

prescribed for .

Lorazepam the same caution warning or threat.

We have been dealing with drugs that

can turn illegal, in a matter of minutes .

These drugs , have no warning about the health hazards

Nothing zilch squat.

The rich, love these drugs for W/D from coke.

Adavan !!!!!! ta daaaaa rehab , hurry

im just a little fried ....tweekers

gimmie psych needa some now .

I got money , psychs got adavan...........

No wonder , so many , want the talk about illegal drugs

silenced .

All the zepam drugs I took had these labels.

Later my dear psych used blackmail against me

using these drugs as a lever for extortsion.

I refused , and later , was to be insulin coma shocked

to silence that crime , and many other crimes ,

commited by psychiatry.

These are the drugs, that are so addictive,

and later during W/D , make the legs feel like

the muscle is tearing off the bone.

These are the drugs that cause so much delierium.

Months and months of agony .

Odd , these labels are never on nuroleptics , which

cause horrible side effects so bad, it cripples us

into wheelchairs or coma.

Slobber shuffle drool .

The law is omission , and lying in our faces about these

drugs .

Who makes these ?

Who enforces the laws , about taking them,

and not taking them?

These drugs are legal/illegal.

I am legally registered to take them,

but If I give them to someone else

I am arrested .

So now back to the registration.

Back to the silence .

Back to the law that enforces us, to take them

or be locked up , or be locked up for passing them.

The users of these drugs , dont care about the law.

They become familiar with them over years time .

They forget cause the meds, make them forget .

When one of them who is an informer, tells the psych

or the law, everyone is informed , to promote fear .

How does fear go? Like this .

I count the pills to see how many I have left before

represcription , my finger prints are on them.

Later some jackass, comes into my home as a guest

and steals them, then is picked up with them

and my regestered finger prints are on them.

I have a knock on the door , or it is busted down.

Regestration , is a crock of shit.

Will my prescriber save me ?

The example is made, and there is no legal pity.

Well how long did a past clinical group member

get for passing these to a buddy ?

Last I heard he was still in the federal slammer

in the mental part , where bedlam is bedlam.

How many total drugs are we prescribed, that have these

labels but no warning about the side effects ?

The victims know all about the reasons why,

illegal drugs are not to be mentioned .

When psych blackmail comes , how many become informers

to continue their regestered prescriptions?

Deliver us from temptation ,

mein doktor hell giver .

I didnt mean it, but here I stand/sit/stand/sit

up /down / up/ down , an example

to my fellow victim/patients .

Behind bars in bedlam snake pit

for years .

Drugged so heavily I cant move .

Slobber, shuffle, drool, shake.

I believe the grapefruit was neglected , like the rest of

my body.

My mind of course, was turned into mush.

If that even exists, other than psych saying

" mind me , and the law " .

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

Did any of you guys doctors warn you about drinking grapefruit juice with

your antidepressants?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0320sci-grapefruit20-ON.html

Grapefruit juice can also interfere with the metabolism of selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, like Prozac, which are used to

treat depression.

Dr. Marshall Forstein, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, said

he told patients to switch from grapefruit juice to something else because

most oranges and other citrus fruits do not have the same effect.

[Guest guest]

Jim ,

my doctors knew I was drinking grapefruit juice daily for

years, and never said a thing about it.

Inpatient psych gave grapefruit juice

after lunch, and also before bedtime , with the

meds .

I used it as a substitute for tobacco, and it worked .

I quit cigs, well before I quit psych meds.

They did give me warnings like this though.

oxazepam label.

Caution

" Federal law PROHIBITS the transfer of this drug

to any person other than the patient for whom

it was prescribed. "

Temazepam label

" WARNING; STATE and FEDERAL law,prohibits

the transfer of this drug to any person

other than the patient for whom it was

prescribed for .

Lorazepam the same caution warning or threat.

We have been dealing with drugs that

can turn illegal, in a matter of minutes .

These drugs , have no warning about the health hazards

Nothing zilch squat.

The rich, love these drugs for W/D from coke.

Adavan !!!!!! ta daaaaa rehab , hurry

im just a little fried ....tweekers

gimmie psych needa some now .

I got money , psychs got adavan...........

No wonder , so many , want the talk about illegal drugs

silenced .

All the zepam drugs I took had these labels.

Later my dear psych used blackmail against me

using these drugs as a lever for extortsion.

I refused , and later , was to be insulin coma shocked

to silence that crime , and many other crimes ,

commited by psychiatry.

These are the drugs, that are so addictive,

and later during W/D , make the legs feel like

the muscle is tearing off the bone.

These are the drugs that cause so much delierium.

Months and months of agony .

Odd , these labels are never on nuroleptics , which

cause horrible side effects so bad, it cripples us

into wheelchairs or coma.

Slobber shuffle drool .

The law is omission , and lying in our faces about these

drugs .

Who makes these ?

Who enforces the laws , about taking them,

and not taking them?

These drugs are legal/illegal.

I am legally registered to take them,

but If I give them to someone else

I am arrested .

So now back to the registration.

Back to the silence .

Back to the law that enforces us, to take them

or be locked up , or be locked up for passing them.

The users of these drugs , dont care about the law.

They become familiar with them over years time .

They forget cause the meds, make them forget .

When one of them who is an informer, tells the psych

or the law, everyone is informed , to promote fear .

How does fear go? Like this .

I count the pills to see how many I have left before

represcription , my finger prints are on them.

Later some jackass, comes into my home as a guest

and steals them, then is picked up with them

and my regestered finger prints are on them.

I have a knock on the door , or it is busted down.

Regestration , is a crock of shit.

Will my prescriber save me ?

The example is made, and there is no legal pity.

Well how long did a past clinical group member

get for passing these to a buddy ?

Last I heard he was still in the federal slammer

in the mental part , where bedlam is bedlam.

How many total drugs are we prescribed, that have these

labels but no warning about the side effects ?

The victims know all about the reasons why,

illegal drugs are not to be mentioned .

When psych blackmail comes , how many become informers

to continue their regestered prescriptions?

Deliver us from temptation ,

mein doktor hell giver .

I didnt mean it, but here I stand/sit/stand/sit

up /down / up/ down , an example

to my fellow victim/patients .

Behind bars in bedlam snake pit

for years .

Drugged so heavily I cant move .

Slobber, shuffle, drool, shake.

I believe the grapefruit was neglected , like the rest of

my body.

My mind of course, was turned into mush.

If that even exists, other than psych saying

" mind me , and the law " .

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

Did any of you guys doctors warn you about drinking grapefruit juice with

your antidepressants?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0320sci-grapefruit20-ON.html

Grapefruit juice can also interfere with the metabolism of selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs, like Prozac, which are used to

treat depression.

Dr. Marshall Forstein, an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, said

he told patients to switch from grapefruit juice to something else because

most oranges and other citrus fruits do not have the same effect.

[Guest guest]

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim

Support is not much lately.

My neighbors want to either kill me, psych me or both.

My family wants me to shut up,

about their support of psych abuse.

A survivor of over 100 ect sessions is labeling me

with con man.

He said he worked as a priest in a prison , and the prison warden

said all the men there were cons.

So I'm one now .

i talked to him on the net about past lsd use in the hospitals

we both were in .

More silence about the past .

My big social event of the day is the grocery , and they want

me to stop talking to their workers.

I have Internet blocks and filters , placed on my ip address

so I cant even get a date on the net.

I'm blocked at millions of sites.

My phone is bugged , even my mom asks ,

" What are those clicks bobby "

They stopped temporarily, cause a friend and i got on there

and cussed them silly for breaking the constitution and bill of rights.

I'm sure the clicks were to save money for the waste of tape

then they had to play the tape constantly.

My friend mentioned some words,

used on television constantly.

Then the clicks ,

If I'm grabbed for prison I will fetch more months for the extra tape,

In psych a couple of hundred extra CCs of nuroleptic per day

years more instead of months

I have two friends I talk to sometimes.

one is mostly blind and deaf .

The other just had to sell his house cause

his neighbor the police Lt, was threatening him

with a pistol,

My mother is a conspirator too

We both want the president to be impeached .

Not only him but the vice president too

and most of congress .

Impeach down the line till we get an honest president .

So that makes me under real close scrutiny.

Seeing how I joined in the ruckus and screamed for

tricky Dicky to step down too .

Lets hope we see Der shrub , shooting the v as he is

whisked away on his magic Arabian carpet ,

saying jeez If I only had four more years behind the wheel of this

country I could plow it into every other country in the

world and get away with it

Hey a little humor after a day of threats doesn't need

reminders does it ?

Ma fellow amerikans , let me remind you , you have no rights.

So pay up in prison or the asylum.

The true degrading fact is everyone is welcome at the prison

or asylum.

Even if they didn't harm anyone , or

themselves .

Another day in SSRI jungle land.

Thanks

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim

Support is not much lately.

My neighbors want to either kill me, psych me or both.

My family wants me to shut up,

about their support of psych abuse.

A survivor of over 100 ect sessions is labeling me

with con man.

He said he worked as a priest in a prison , and the prison warden

said all the men there were cons.

So I'm one now .

i talked to him on the net about past lsd use in the hospitals

we both were in .

More silence about the past .

My big social event of the day is the grocery , and they want

me to stop talking to their workers.

I have Internet blocks and filters , placed on my ip address

so I cant even get a date on the net.

I'm blocked at millions of sites.

My phone is bugged , even my mom asks ,

" What are those clicks bobby "

They stopped temporarily, cause a friend and i got on there

and cussed them silly for breaking the constitution and bill of rights.

I'm sure the clicks were to save money for the waste of tape

then they had to play the tape constantly.

My friend mentioned some words,

used on television constantly.

Then the clicks ,

If I'm grabbed for prison I will fetch more months for the extra tape,

In psych a couple of hundred extra CCs of nuroleptic per day

years more instead of months

I have two friends I talk to sometimes.

one is mostly blind and deaf .

The other just had to sell his house cause

his neighbor the police Lt, was threatening him

with a pistol,

My mother is a conspirator too

We both want the president to be impeached .

Not only him but the vice president too

and most of congress .

Impeach down the line till we get an honest president .

So that makes me under real close scrutiny.

Seeing how I joined in the ruckus and screamed for

tricky Dicky to step down too .

Lets hope we see Der shrub , shooting the v as he is

whisked away on his magic Arabian carpet ,

saying jeez If I only had four more years behind the wheel of this

country I could plow it into every other country in the

world and get away with it

Hey a little humor after a day of threats doesn't need

reminders does it ?

Ma fellow amerikans , let me remind you , you have no rights.

So pay up in prison or the asylum.

The true degrading fact is everyone is welcome at the prison

or asylum.

Even if they didn't harm anyone , or

themselves .

Another day in SSRI jungle land.

Thanks

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim

Support is not much lately.

My neighbors want to either kill me, psych me or both.

My family wants me to shut up,

about their support of psych abuse.

A survivor of over 100 ect sessions is labeling me

with con man.

He said he worked as a priest in a prison , and the prison warden

said all the men there were cons.

So I'm one now .

i talked to him on the net about past lsd use in the hospitals

we both were in .

More silence about the past .

My big social event of the day is the grocery , and they want

me to stop talking to their workers.

I have Internet blocks and filters , placed on my ip address

so I cant even get a date on the net.

I'm blocked at millions of sites.

My phone is bugged , even my mom asks ,

" What are those clicks bobby "

They stopped temporarily, cause a friend and i got on there

and cussed them silly for breaking the constitution and bill of rights.

I'm sure the clicks were to save money for the waste of tape

then they had to play the tape constantly.

My friend mentioned some words,

used on television constantly.

Then the clicks ,

If I'm grabbed for prison I will fetch more months for the extra tape,

In psych a couple of hundred extra CCs of nuroleptic per day

years more instead of months

I have two friends I talk to sometimes.

one is mostly blind and deaf .

The other just had to sell his house cause

his neighbor the police Lt, was threatening him

with a pistol,

My mother is a conspirator too

We both want the president to be impeached .

Not only him but the vice president too

and most of congress .

Impeach down the line till we get an honest president .

So that makes me under real close scrutiny.

Seeing how I joined in the ruckus and screamed for

tricky Dicky to step down too .

Lets hope we see Der shrub , shooting the v as he is

whisked away on his magic Arabian carpet ,

saying jeez If I only had four more years behind the wheel of this

country I could plow it into every other country in the

world and get away with it

Hey a little humor after a day of threats doesn't need

reminders does it ?

Ma fellow amerikans , let me remind you , you have no rights.

So pay up in prison or the asylum.

The true degrading fact is everyone is welcome at the prison

or asylum.

Even if they didn't harm anyone , or

themselves .

Another day in SSRI jungle land.

Thanks

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim

Support is not much lately.

My neighbors want to either kill me, psych me or both.

My family wants me to shut up,

about their support of psych abuse.

A survivor of over 100 ect sessions is labeling me

with con man.

He said he worked as a priest in a prison , and the prison warden

said all the men there were cons.

So I'm one now .

i talked to him on the net about past lsd use in the hospitals

we both were in .

More silence about the past .

My big social event of the day is the grocery , and they want

me to stop talking to their workers.

I have Internet blocks and filters , placed on my ip address

so I cant even get a date on the net.

I'm blocked at millions of sites.

My phone is bugged , even my mom asks ,

" What are those clicks bobby "

They stopped temporarily, cause a friend and i got on there

and cussed them silly for breaking the constitution and bill of rights.

I'm sure the clicks were to save money for the waste of tape

then they had to play the tape constantly.

My friend mentioned some words,

used on television constantly.

Then the clicks ,

If I'm grabbed for prison I will fetch more months for the extra tape,

In psych a couple of hundred extra CCs of nuroleptic per day

years more instead of months

I have two friends I talk to sometimes.

one is mostly blind and deaf .

The other just had to sell his house cause

his neighbor the police Lt, was threatening him

with a pistol,

My mother is a conspirator too

We both want the president to be impeached .

Not only him but the vice president too

and most of congress .

Impeach down the line till we get an honest president .

So that makes me under real close scrutiny.

Seeing how I joined in the ruckus and screamed for

tricky Dicky to step down too .

Lets hope we see Der shrub , shooting the v as he is

whisked away on his magic Arabian carpet ,

saying jeez If I only had four more years behind the wheel of this

country I could plow it into every other country in the

world and get away with it

Hey a little humor after a day of threats doesn't need

reminders does it ?

Ma fellow amerikans , let me remind you , you have no rights.

So pay up in prison or the asylum.

The true degrading fact is everyone is welcome at the prison

or asylum.

Even if they didn't harm anyone , or

themselves .

Another day in SSRI jungle land.

Thanks

Jim <mofunnow@...> wrote:

,

I hear you man. the drugs are degrading of the soul, the spirit. The joke is

that no real medicine takes place in many psych wards at all. So real body

problems go ignored and the rule is to drug all the patients into compliance

and warehouse them for the money. Sadly the only people who can stomach to

work in these places for any length of time, in my opinion, are sadistic and

perverted and like to abuse and lord it over others. I know there are

exceptions but they are very rare. The stories I hear make all of the staff

from bottom to top complicit to the slavery that occurs within the mental

hospitals.

The psychiatrists as a group have no science, ignore solid science, and at

best can limit symptoms but with the very heavy price of the extreme side

effects. I believe people have the right to take anything they want to get

through the day but I would not do it personally.

Then after years of human rights groups and psychiatric survivors being

ignored by the public the drug companies made a huge mistake. They started

to promote the psychiatric drugs to the public for everything and anything.

The side effects and distruction started happening outside of the mental

wards where it was previously hidden. The public outcry has been swift and

awesome. I hope that it does not stop with the children but cleans up the

mental wards also. There are children in these wards also.

These drugs should be outright banned in my opinion. A independent study on

the efficacy of all the drugs and non-drug treatments should be conducted to

come up with the safest course of action for treating the people in a

transition of mental pain or suffering. There should be zero tolerance for

physical restraints and seclusion rooms and we should take notes from the

Quakers and get back to loving our distressed people and treating them with

respect for their minds and their bodies.

If someone is hearing voices, so what? Are they now dangerous to the point

of being decimated by drugs and shock? I think most of the mayhem from

mentally ill people are drug induced in the first place.

There is no science to biological psychiatry, talk of genetics is the cousin

of eugenics without solid evidence, which they have none of. The best they

can do is find genetic traits that produce enzymes that can handle the drugs

better or not so well. So they can predict who to give the drugs to. What

nonsense.

Keep telling your story , people need to know what goes on.

Jim