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I would like to clarify metabolic syndrome before anyone here panics. This is a syndrome. That is all it is. Metabolic syndrome is very difficult to diagnose, as there are certain factors that come into play. You may have all 4 risk factors, but still do not have metabolic syndrome.

Seroquel does raise blood sugar, and can cause diabetes. Fasting blood sugars and total cholesterols should be checked, a minimum of once a year, preferably every 6 months when you first begin..

Changing your eating habits, diet and exercise is the only way to conquer a metabolic problem, if in fact, that is what it is.

You do need to be pro-active while taking any medication. Not just AD. All meds have side effects, and you as the patient should take charge of you health, read, read, and do more reading, so you are educated and informed.

It should be the Dr's responsibility, but in this day and age, that is not going to happen .

In a message dated 8/11/2009 1:38:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jgayton9992000@... writes:

In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I would like to clarify metabolic syndrome before anyone here panics. This is a syndrome. That is all it is. Metabolic syndrome is very difficult to diagnose, as there are certain factors that come into play. You may have all 4 risk factors, but still do not have metabolic syndrome.

Seroquel does raise blood sugar, and can cause diabetes. Fasting blood sugars and total cholesterols should be checked, a minimum of once a year, preferably every 6 months when you first begin..

Changing your eating habits, diet and exercise is the only way to conquer a metabolic problem, if in fact, that is what it is.

You do need to be pro-active while taking any medication. Not just AD. All meds have side effects, and you as the patient should take charge of you health, read, read, and do more reading, so you are educated and informed.

It should be the Dr's responsibility, but in this day and age, that is not going to happen .

In a message dated 8/11/2009 1:38:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jgayton9992000@... writes:

In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I would like to clarify metabolic syndrome before anyone here panics. This is a syndrome. That is all it is. Metabolic syndrome is very difficult to diagnose, as there are certain factors that come into play. You may have all 4 risk factors, but still do not have metabolic syndrome.

Seroquel does raise blood sugar, and can cause diabetes. Fasting blood sugars and total cholesterols should be checked, a minimum of once a year, preferably every 6 months when you first begin..

Changing your eating habits, diet and exercise is the only way to conquer a metabolic problem, if in fact, that is what it is.

You do need to be pro-active while taking any medication. Not just AD. All meds have side effects, and you as the patient should take charge of you health, read, read, and do more reading, so you are educated and informed.

It should be the Dr's responsibility, but in this day and age, that is not going to happen .

In a message dated 8/11/2009 1:38:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jgayton9992000@... writes:

In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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In terms of the wieght -you might want to look at metobolic syndrome - there is some discussion about meds creating this-serequel was the one most targeted in the current lawsuits for causing weight gain and diabetes, but they were all implicated.

Have your thyroid checked and rechecked. Check your temperature UNDER your arm with a basal thermometer every morning for a month BEFORE you get out of bed. Track it and a list of your symptoms.

Have your liver tested. You know what has happened to you, but without tests you will never have the proof you need to get the heart of the issues resolved or even know for certain what it is you need to work on or the best way to go about that. My dr.s all said there was nothing wrong with me. I went to an alternative worker and had live blood analysis, salvia and unrine tests and they showed, heart, liver and kidney damage and I was only on prozac for 6 weeks and ended up in a coma. I plan to do chelation therapy to detox but ONLY after I am strong enough. If you are not strong enough to detox, it can take you to your knees and make you very very sick. You need to find someone competent to work this through with.

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medications Received: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 2:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I am sorry I was not clear about that statement. What I was trying to say is that I agree with the lady who experienced the problem that at first, for the first few weeks, many people feel great. Everything seems really good. Then, without warning, they begin to feel the side effects. For me, it was great at first, until I lost my perscription and missed one of my doses. I felt like a junkie. Tore my house apart looking for the bottle. Luckily, I found it but I realized that the effects were unbelievable. I just wanted her to know that it is true that in the beginning, many times, it seems like all is great.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I am sorry I was not clear about that statement. What I was trying to say is that I agree with the lady who experienced the problem that at first, for the first few weeks, many people feel great. Everything seems really good. Then, without warning, they begin to feel the side effects. For me, it was great at first, until I lost my perscription and missed one of my doses. I felt like a junkie. Tore my house apart looking for the bottle. Luckily, I found it but I realized that the effects were unbelievable. I just wanted her to know that it is true that in the beginning, many times, it seems like all is great.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I am sorry I was not clear about that statement. What I was trying to say is that I agree with the lady who experienced the problem that at first, for the first few weeks, many people feel great. Everything seems really good. Then, without warning, they begin to feel the side effects. For me, it was great at first, until I lost my perscription and missed one of my doses. I felt like a junkie. Tore my house apart looking for the bottle. Luckily, I found it but I realized that the effects were unbelievable. I just wanted her to know that it is true that in the beginning, many times, it seems like all is great.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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I am sorry I was not clear about that statement. What I was trying to say is that I agree with the lady who experienced the problem that at first, for the first few weeks, many people feel great. Everything seems really good. Then, without warning, they begin to feel the side effects. For me, it was great at first, until I lost my perscription and missed one of my doses. I felt like a junkie. Tore my house apart looking for the bottle. Luckily, I found it but I realized that the effects were unbelievable. I just wanted her to know that it is true that in the beginning, many times, it seems like all is great.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:15:04 PM, wilkersonkathy@... writes:

Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like.  In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer.  Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you.  You will make it. 

 

Kathy

Excellent advice, I found if I took it slow enough that bad effects never get started, I tapered off without any bad side effects. In fact the very last time I took half of a 37.5, I felt like I needed it a little earlier than I had planned. Took it, no problems, then I realized about five days later that I hadn't taken any, and didn't need any more. No brain zaps, nausea, etc etc. (Many of these problems are related to fluid balance) Remember too that when you reduce your dose, you are reducing the side effects from taking the drug.

Also good advice to have a complete thyroid panel, especially if you are experiencing weight gain. It is listed as a rare side effect, but Effexor can cause hypothyroid. So although some may loose weight or stay the same due to decreased appetite, some will gain due to hypothyroid. The thyroid is also dose dependent, so you may be okay at a lower dose, then have problems at a higher dose. If you have any other things going on like hair loss, especially in eyebrows, dry skin patches, think about thyroid problems.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:15:04 PM, wilkersonkathy@... writes:

Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like.  In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer.  Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you.  You will make it. 

 

Kathy

Excellent advice, I found if I took it slow enough that bad effects never get started, I tapered off without any bad side effects. In fact the very last time I took half of a 37.5, I felt like I needed it a little earlier than I had planned. Took it, no problems, then I realized about five days later that I hadn't taken any, and didn't need any more. No brain zaps, nausea, etc etc. (Many of these problems are related to fluid balance) Remember too that when you reduce your dose, you are reducing the side effects from taking the drug.

Also good advice to have a complete thyroid panel, especially if you are experiencing weight gain. It is listed as a rare side effect, but Effexor can cause hypothyroid. So although some may loose weight or stay the same due to decreased appetite, some will gain due to hypothyroid. The thyroid is also dose dependent, so you may be okay at a lower dose, then have problems at a higher dose. If you have any other things going on like hair loss, especially in eyebrows, dry skin patches, think about thyroid problems.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:15:04 PM, wilkersonkathy@... writes:

Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like.  In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer.  Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you.  You will make it. 

 

Kathy

Excellent advice, I found if I took it slow enough that bad effects never get started, I tapered off without any bad side effects. In fact the very last time I took half of a 37.5, I felt like I needed it a little earlier than I had planned. Took it, no problems, then I realized about five days later that I hadn't taken any, and didn't need any more. No brain zaps, nausea, etc etc. (Many of these problems are related to fluid balance) Remember too that when you reduce your dose, you are reducing the side effects from taking the drug.

Also good advice to have a complete thyroid panel, especially if you are experiencing weight gain. It is listed as a rare side effect, but Effexor can cause hypothyroid. So although some may loose weight or stay the same due to decreased appetite, some will gain due to hypothyroid. The thyroid is also dose dependent, so you may be okay at a lower dose, then have problems at a higher dose. If you have any other things going on like hair loss, especially in eyebrows, dry skin patches, think about thyroid problems.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:15:04 PM, wilkersonkathy@... writes:

Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like.  In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer.  Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you.  You will make it. 

 

Kathy

Excellent advice, I found if I took it slow enough that bad effects never get started, I tapered off without any bad side effects. In fact the very last time I took half of a 37.5, I felt like I needed it a little earlier than I had planned. Took it, no problems, then I realized about five days later that I hadn't taken any, and didn't need any more. No brain zaps, nausea, etc etc. (Many of these problems are related to fluid balance) Remember too that when you reduce your dose, you are reducing the side effects from taking the drug.

Also good advice to have a complete thyroid panel, especially if you are experiencing weight gain. It is listed as a rare side effect, but Effexor can cause hypothyroid. So although some may loose weight or stay the same due to decreased appetite, some will gain due to hypothyroid. The thyroid is also dose dependent, so you may be okay at a lower dose, then have problems at a higher dose. If you have any other things going on like hair loss, especially in eyebrows, dry skin patches, think about thyroid problems.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:04:05 PM, menhary@... writes:

Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE  

she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goes

Counting beads can be is advised. The beads are not all made up of the same ingredient and are not the same size. If you want to divide, you are more likely to get a reproducible active ingredient if you divide the mix, as in half the capsule etc.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:04:05 PM, menhary@... writes:

Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE  

she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goes

Counting beads can be is advised. The beads are not all made up of the same ingredient and are not the same size. If you want to divide, you are more likely to get a reproducible active ingredient if you divide the mix, as in half the capsule etc.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:04:05 PM, menhary@... writes:

Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE  

she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goes

Counting beads can be is advised. The beads are not all made up of the same ingredient and are not the same size. If you want to divide, you are more likely to get a reproducible active ingredient if you divide the mix, as in half the capsule etc.

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In a message dated 8/11/09 4:04:05 PM, menhary@... writes:

Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE  

she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goes

Counting beads can be is advised. The beads are not all made up of the same ingredient and are not the same size. If you want to divide, you are more likely to get a reproducible active ingredient if you divide the mix, as in half the capsule etc.

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Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like. In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer. Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you. You will make it.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like. In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer. Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you. You will make it.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like. In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer. Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you. You will make it.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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Don't get discouraged if takes slower than you would like. In fact, if your next cutback produces worsening or new side effects, just increase it back up and reduce less or maintain there for a little longer. Anything to keep the side effects from debilitating you. You will make it.

Kathy

From: shepelec2002 <pscs@...>Subject: Effexor XR experience and questionsSSRI medicationsDate: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:18 AM

HiI am new to this group. I am 41 years old, and was placed on Effexor XR in January of 2007. At this time, I was in the hospital and had no experience with anti-depressents. Nor did I even know what they were giving me. I never asked, and they never disclosed it.I was also placed on Seroquel.I was started at 37.5, the normal dosing of FXR, and then bumped to 75 mg. I have to say that I did feel much better. Then I noticed I was putting on weight. And lots of it. I was about 128 pounds and I now weigh 156. I am only 5'3".I didn't change my eating habits, so can anyone tell me WHY I gained all this weight? Was there something in the medication that slowed my metabolism down?Then I started reading about FXR and getting off of it. I had decided back in March of this year, I wanted off. I was tired of gaining weight, and the sexual side effects were not pleasant either.Well, after reading the

horrific stories of FXR WD, I got scared and just stayed on it. I discontinued my Seroquel, and that was no problem. I was placed on Buspar, and that was working fine for me. I have more anxiety then depression.So, again last month I had enough. Bad WD symptoms or not, I figured if it was that bad to detox from, then in must be bad in my system.Two weeks ago, I was tapered to 37.5, and placed on 200 mg of Wellbutrin. I didn't have any problems at all. I figured I was in the clear. I was wrong.Once I stopped the FXR altogether, it got bad. Brain Zaps, very, very dizzy, nausea, sweating, ears ringing. Awful.I ended up taking Bonine(like a Dramamine) to help with the dizziness. OMG it was awful.It has now been two weeks, and just now I am feeling like I am almost done with the WD symptoms.For anyone on FXR, you need to get OFF.I am on Wellbutrin now. I need to take this weight off.Do you think

that by stopping the FXR, my metabolism will change and I can get this extra weight off?And I just wanted to share my experience with getting off of FXR. DO not listen to your Dr's. Do not take this stuff unless it is of dire emergency.

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To and Jen, Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goesI have been off all meds since November 2005 and still suffer from adverse reactions, but am doing WAY better nowthe day I was prescribed pharmaceuticals I weighed about 130 pounds, Im 5'6", after four and a half years my weight more than doubled and I had so many side effects, I just wanted to die, I was a cocktail waitress for thirteen years before, for me to have gotten that huge was unbelievable. I still have thirtyfive pounds to go for me to feel anything like myself again, but I will never get back all of those years that I was in a pharmaceutical coma and acting retarded ~Sandy

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To and Jen, Ive been on this group for a few years now, you need to contact Creel HERE she will advise you how to divvy up the little balls inside FXR capsule, and what ever else as far as nutrition goesI have been off all meds since November 2005 and still suffer from adverse reactions, but am doing WAY better nowthe day I was prescribed pharmaceuticals I weighed about 130 pounds, Im 5'6", after four and a half years my weight more than doubled and I had so many side effects, I just wanted to die, I was a cocktail waitress for thirteen years before, for me to have gotten that huge was unbelievable. I still have thirtyfive pounds to go for me to feel anything like myself again, but I will never get back all of those years that I was in a pharmaceutical coma and acting retarded ~Sandy

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