Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I have seen children dosed with adult doses. " Prescription: Suicide " shows a family that experienced that. Jim Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights being taken into accout at all? Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I have seen children dosed with adult doses. " Prescription: Suicide " shows a family that experienced that. Jim Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights being taken into accout at all? Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I have seen children dosed with adult doses. " Prescription: Suicide " shows a family that experienced that. Jim Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights being taken into accout at all? Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I have seen children dosed with adult doses. " Prescription: Suicide " shows a family that experienced that. Jim Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights being taken into accout at all? Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 My son eventually wound up taking 300 mg per day - after starting out at 75 mg and increasing the dosage every 3 days up to 300 mg. He was 5'11 " tall and weighed about 150 lbs when he started. He had lost about 25 - 30 lbs within the 7 weeks he took Effexor due to its " anorexic " side effect. He usually ate like a horse, but not once he started taking that crap. These doctors are willing to prescribe this crap to regulate a supposed " chemical imbalance " that they can't even measure, so of course they don't take a person's weight/size into consideration. They treat this stuff like it's an antibiotic - one dose suits all. Terry " ...There are certain things in our nation and in the world about which I am proud to be maladjusted and about which I hope all men of good-will will be maladjusted...Through such maladjustment, I believe that we will be able to emerge from the bleak and desolate midnight of man's inhumanity to man into the bright and glittering daybreak of freedom and justice. " - Dr. Luther King, Jr. - December 18, 1963 --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 My son eventually wound up taking 300 mg per day - after starting out at 75 mg and increasing the dosage every 3 days up to 300 mg. He was 5'11 " tall and weighed about 150 lbs when he started. He had lost about 25 - 30 lbs within the 7 weeks he took Effexor due to its " anorexic " side effect. He usually ate like a horse, but not once he started taking that crap. These doctors are willing to prescribe this crap to regulate a supposed " chemical imbalance " that they can't even measure, so of course they don't take a person's weight/size into consideration. They treat this stuff like it's an antibiotic - one dose suits all. Terry " ...There are certain things in our nation and in the world about which I am proud to be maladjusted and about which I hope all men of good-will will be maladjusted...Through such maladjustment, I believe that we will be able to emerge from the bleak and desolate midnight of man's inhumanity to man into the bright and glittering daybreak of freedom and justice. " - Dr. Luther King, Jr. - December 18, 1963 --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 My son eventually wound up taking 300 mg per day - after starting out at 75 mg and increasing the dosage every 3 days up to 300 mg. He was 5'11 " tall and weighed about 150 lbs when he started. He had lost about 25 - 30 lbs within the 7 weeks he took Effexor due to its " anorexic " side effect. He usually ate like a horse, but not once he started taking that crap. These doctors are willing to prescribe this crap to regulate a supposed " chemical imbalance " that they can't even measure, so of course they don't take a person's weight/size into consideration. They treat this stuff like it's an antibiotic - one dose suits all. Terry " ...There are certain things in our nation and in the world about which I am proud to be maladjusted and about which I hope all men of good-will will be maladjusted...Through such maladjustment, I believe that we will be able to emerge from the bleak and desolate midnight of man's inhumanity to man into the bright and glittering daybreak of freedom and justice. " - Dr. Luther King, Jr. - December 18, 1963 --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 My son eventually wound up taking 300 mg per day - after starting out at 75 mg and increasing the dosage every 3 days up to 300 mg. He was 5'11 " tall and weighed about 150 lbs when he started. He had lost about 25 - 30 lbs within the 7 weeks he took Effexor due to its " anorexic " side effect. He usually ate like a horse, but not once he started taking that crap. These doctors are willing to prescribe this crap to regulate a supposed " chemical imbalance " that they can't even measure, so of course they don't take a person's weight/size into consideration. They treat this stuff like it's an antibiotic - one dose suits all. Terry " ...There are certain things in our nation and in the world about which I am proud to be maladjusted and about which I hope all men of good-will will be maladjusted...Through such maladjustment, I believe that we will be able to emerge from the bleak and desolate midnight of man's inhumanity to man into the bright and glittering daybreak of freedom and justice. " - Dr. Luther King, Jr. - December 18, 1963 --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie > > > > Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? > > What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights > being taken into accout at all? > > Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. > less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 > feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it > left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into > accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie > > > > Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? > > What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights > being taken into accout at all? > > Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. > less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 > feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it > left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into > accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie > > > > Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? > > What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights > being taken into accout at all? > > Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. > less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 > feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it > left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into > accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie > > > > Are dosing reccommendations outa whack too?? > > What exactly are lethal doses of these drugs and are people's weights > being taken into accout at all? > > Obviously the adult dosage is going to be and SHOULD BE different ie. > less, for a 120 lb woman who is 5 feet tall and a 200lb man who is 6 > feet tall, yet are these restrictions being put to doctors or is it > left to the doctor to decide the dosage? Are doctors even taking into > accout the height and weight of their patients when dosing???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Gertie, You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of antidepressants called SNRIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin-norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. Jim Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Gertie, You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of antidepressants called SNRIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin-norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. Jim Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Gertie, You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of antidepressants called SNRIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin-norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. Jim Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Gertie, You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of antidepressants called SNRIs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin-norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. Jim Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the same?) gertie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know that it's common practice to give out anticonvulsants off-label for psychiatric uses and that the akinesia caused by the antidepressants is usually handled with other drugs instead of removing the problem antidepressant. So side effects are treated with more drugs. Jim That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know that it's common practice to give out anticonvulsants off-label for psychiatric uses and that the akinesia caused by the antidepressants is usually handled with other drugs instead of removing the problem antidepressant. So side effects are treated with more drugs. Jim That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know that it's common practice to give out anticonvulsants off-label for psychiatric uses and that the akinesia caused by the antidepressants is usually handled with other drugs instead of removing the problem antidepressant. So side effects are treated with more drugs. Jim That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I know that it's common practice to give out anticonvulsants off-label for psychiatric uses and that the akinesia caused by the antidepressants is usually handled with other drugs instead of removing the problem antidepressant. So side effects are treated with more drugs. Jim That's what I had read, but he contradicts me and tells me Effexor and Cymbalta have NOTHING in common. What I cannot understand, after reading about the double-transmitter elevation with Cymbalta, why in the world do they give this elderly man another drug that stimulates the central nervous system, a drug approved for narcolepsy. The man is anything but in need of stimulation! gertie > > Gertie, > > You are correct, Effexor and Cymbalta are both in the class of > antidepressants called SNRIs. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin- norepinephrine_reuptake_inhibitor > > I agree that there are many factors but the big one for me is that the PDR > lists the mode of action as unknown, so how would you really know from > person to person what the best dosage is except by hit or miss doping. > > Jim > > Please, let's remember age as a factor, as well as weight. I know a > man of 74, who claims Effexor was " no help " but he now takes Cymbalta > with a central nervous system stimulant, and he feels " terrific. " Only > problem is that he seems to exhibit some behaviour that might be > described as mania, and " disinhibition syndrome. " Everyone can see it > except himself. (I thought Effexor and Cymbalta are essentially the > same?) gertie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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