Fire Your Doctor and my comments re:psychiatry

[Guest guest]

I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

and they have only scratched the surface.

Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

involved.

It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

opinions.

Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

john

WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

DOCTOR

(An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

" General Washington was taken in the night (in

December, 1799) with a sore

throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

from him 14 ounces of blood.

The following morning, the family physician

arrived, and proceeded to bleed

him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

again the same evening, giving

him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

morning he was given

another dose. The next day another physician was

called in consultation, and

the result was that they took an additional 32

ounces of blood from General

Washington. There was no alleviation of the

disease. Ten grains more of

calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

in large doses. To his

extremities blisters were applied, and to his

throat poultices. "

" General Washington died. "

(from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

31, 1931)

Former First President Washington, the

father of our country, died

from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

treatment. Washington had the

best scientific medical attention of his day.

And? They bled him no fewer

than five times in three days. Let's do the

grisly arithmetic. The first

bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

bleedings of unspecified

quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

and then a final full quart

was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

bleedings were also 14 ounces

each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

we have:

14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

Washington. The human body

contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

(5 quarts) of blood. 88

ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

units; that's well over half

the blood in a person. Some estimates place

Washington's total bleeding

closer to 8 units.

It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

an assassin, to kill a

great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

(from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

11-12)

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[Guest guest]

I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

and they have only scratched the surface.

Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

involved.

It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

opinions.

Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

john

WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

DOCTOR

(An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

" General Washington was taken in the night (in

December, 1799) with a sore

throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

from him 14 ounces of blood.

The following morning, the family physician

arrived, and proceeded to bleed

him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

again the same evening, giving

him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

morning he was given

another dose. The next day another physician was

called in consultation, and

the result was that they took an additional 32

ounces of blood from General

Washington. There was no alleviation of the

disease. Ten grains more of

calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

in large doses. To his

extremities blisters were applied, and to his

throat poultices. "

" General Washington died. "

(from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

31, 1931)

Former First President Washington, the

father of our country, died

from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

treatment. Washington had the

best scientific medical attention of his day.

And? They bled him no fewer

than five times in three days. Let's do the

grisly arithmetic. The first

bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

bleedings of unspecified

quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

and then a final full quart

was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

bleedings were also 14 ounces

each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

we have:

14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

Washington. The human body

contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

(5 quarts) of blood. 88

ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

units; that's well over half

the blood in a person. Some estimates place

Washington's total bleeding

closer to 8 units.

It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

an assassin, to kill a

great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

(from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

11-12)

For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

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[Guest guest]

I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

and they have only scratched the surface.

Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

involved.

It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

opinions.

Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

john

WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

DOCTOR

(An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

" General Washington was taken in the night (in

December, 1799) with a sore

throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

from him 14 ounces of blood.

The following morning, the family physician

arrived, and proceeded to bleed

him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

again the same evening, giving

him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

morning he was given

another dose. The next day another physician was

called in consultation, and

the result was that they took an additional 32

ounces of blood from General

Washington. There was no alleviation of the

disease. Ten grains more of

calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

in large doses. To his

extremities blisters were applied, and to his

throat poultices. "

" General Washington died. "

(from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

31, 1931)

Former First President Washington, the

father of our country, died

from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

treatment. Washington had the

best scientific medical attention of his day.

And? They bled him no fewer

than five times in three days. Let's do the

grisly arithmetic. The first

bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

bleedings of unspecified

quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

and then a final full quart

was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

bleedings were also 14 ounces

each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

we have:

14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

Washington. The human body

contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

(5 quarts) of blood. 88

ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

units; that's well over half

the blood in a person. Some estimates place

Washington's total bleeding

closer to 8 units.

It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

an assassin, to kill a

great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

(from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

11-12)

For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

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_______________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

and they have only scratched the surface.

Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

involved.

It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

opinions.

Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

john

WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

DOCTOR

(An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

" General Washington was taken in the night (in

December, 1799) with a sore

throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

from him 14 ounces of blood.

The following morning, the family physician

arrived, and proceeded to bleed

him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

again the same evening, giving

him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

morning he was given

another dose. The next day another physician was

called in consultation, and

the result was that they took an additional 32

ounces of blood from General

Washington. There was no alleviation of the

disease. Ten grains more of

calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

in large doses. To his

extremities blisters were applied, and to his

throat poultices. "

" General Washington died. "

(from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

31, 1931)

Former First President Washington, the

father of our country, died

from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

treatment. Washington had the

best scientific medical attention of his day.

And? They bled him no fewer

than five times in three days. Let's do the

grisly arithmetic. The first

bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

bleedings of unspecified

quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

and then a final full quart

was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

bleedings were also 14 ounces

each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

we have:

14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

Washington. The human body

contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

(5 quarts) of blood. 88

ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

units; that's well over half

the blood in a person. Some estimates place

Washington's total bleeding

closer to 8 units.

It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

an assassin, to kill a

great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

(from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

11-12)

For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

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_______________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It is written in the Torah that all doctors should be condemned to

hell. The Torah makes the distinction between doctors and healers.

So this has been going on a long time.

As far a psychiatry goes, in general, psychiatrists are the most

misguided, unempathic, least enlightened people I have ever met. I

excuse myself in that I never intended to practice psychiatry. The

training was a vehicle to continue research on stress physiology.

It is almost impossible to believe that psychiatrists are entirely

handmaidens of insurance and drug companies. To the patients they act

like they are Gods, but this is just a coverup for lack of opinions,

lack of convictions, lack of morals. As human beings, psychiatrists

are low life forms.

When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial. Now the patient either agrees with

the drug or they are bipolar. It is a game of heads I win tails you lose.

Psychiatrists are highly vulnerable to state Medical Boards who do not

condone current practice. Psychiatrists are required to provide

warnings about possible side effects and treatment alternatives. This

almost never happens. I like the Medical Boards in that they truly

have the safety of the public in mind and are not bought off.

Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical Boards are simple.

Each time a shrink prescribes without warning about suicide,

withdrawal and (soon) permanant sexual dysfunction -- without citing

the data that exercise, psychotherapy, or supplements etc are

alternative treatments, they are in violation. You don't need damages

to complain to the Medical Board. The only thing that psychiatrists

respond to (besides advertising) is litigation, and in this regard I

encourage more litigation and Medical Board complaints against

psychiatrists.

>

> I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

> wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

> that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

> learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

> Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

>

> The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

> ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

> doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

> scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

> but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

> actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

> garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

> and they have only scratched the surface.

>

> Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

> practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

> then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

> involved.

>

> It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

> school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

> court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

> that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

> opinions.

>

> Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

> as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

> I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

> to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

>

> Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

>

> john

>

> WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

> DOCTOR

>

> (An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

>

>

>

> " General Washington was taken in the night (in

> December, 1799) with a sore

> throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

> from him 14 ounces of blood.

> The following morning, the family physician

> arrived, and proceeded to bleed

> him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

> again the same evening, giving

> him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

> morning he was given

> another dose. The next day another physician was

> called in consultation, and

> the result was that they took an additional 32

> ounces of blood from General

> Washington. There was no alleviation of the

> disease. Ten grains more of

> calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

> in large doses. To his

> extremities blisters were applied, and to his

> throat poultices. "

>

>

>

> " General Washington died. "

>

>

>

> (from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

> 31, 1931)

>

>

>

> Former First President Washington, the

> father of our country, died

> from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

> treatment. Washington had the

> best scientific medical attention of his day.

> And? They bled him no fewer

> than five times in three days. Let's do the

> grisly arithmetic. The first

> bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

> bleedings of unspecified

> quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

> and then a final full quart

> was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

> bleedings were also 14 ounces

> each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

> we have:

>

>

>

> 14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

>

>

>

> Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

> Washington. The human body

> contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

> (5 quarts) of blood. 88

> ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

> units; that's well over half

> the blood in a person. Some estimates place

> Washington's total bleeding

> closer to 8 units.

>

>

>

> It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

> an assassin, to kill a

> great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

> (from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

> 11-12)

>

>

>

> For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

> ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

>

>

>

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE

>

> This email contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I am

> making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding

> of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

> scientific, and social justice issues, etc.

>

> I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted

> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material in this

> email is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a

> prior interest in receiving the included information

> for research and educational purposes. For more information go to:

> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this update for purposes

> of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission

> from the copyright owner.

> _______________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

It is written in the Torah that all doctors should be condemned to

hell. The Torah makes the distinction between doctors and healers.

So this has been going on a long time.

As far a psychiatry goes, in general, psychiatrists are the most

misguided, unempathic, least enlightened people I have ever met. I

excuse myself in that I never intended to practice psychiatry. The

training was a vehicle to continue research on stress physiology.

It is almost impossible to believe that psychiatrists are entirely

handmaidens of insurance and drug companies. To the patients they act

like they are Gods, but this is just a coverup for lack of opinions,

lack of convictions, lack of morals. As human beings, psychiatrists

are low life forms.

When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial. Now the patient either agrees with

the drug or they are bipolar. It is a game of heads I win tails you lose.

Psychiatrists are highly vulnerable to state Medical Boards who do not

condone current practice. Psychiatrists are required to provide

warnings about possible side effects and treatment alternatives. This

almost never happens. I like the Medical Boards in that they truly

have the safety of the public in mind and are not bought off.

Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical Boards are simple.

Each time a shrink prescribes without warning about suicide,

withdrawal and (soon) permanant sexual dysfunction -- without citing

the data that exercise, psychotherapy, or supplements etc are

alternative treatments, they are in violation. You don't need damages

to complain to the Medical Board. The only thing that psychiatrists

respond to (besides advertising) is litigation, and in this regard I

encourage more litigation and Medical Board complaints against

psychiatrists.

>

> I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

> wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

> that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

> learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

> Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

>

> The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

> ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

> doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

> scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

> but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

> actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

> garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

> and they have only scratched the surface.

>

> Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

> practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

> then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

> involved.

>

> It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

> school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

> court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

> that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

> opinions.

>

> Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

> as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

> I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

> to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

>

> Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

>

> john

>

> WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

> DOCTOR

>

> (An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

>

>

>

> " General Washington was taken in the night (in

> December, 1799) with a sore

> throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

> from him 14 ounces of blood.

> The following morning, the family physician

> arrived, and proceeded to bleed

> him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

> again the same evening, giving

> him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

> morning he was given

> another dose. The next day another physician was

> called in consultation, and

> the result was that they took an additional 32

> ounces of blood from General

> Washington. There was no alleviation of the

> disease. Ten grains more of

> calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

> in large doses. To his

> extremities blisters were applied, and to his

> throat poultices. "

>

>

>

> " General Washington died. "

>

>

>

> (from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

> 31, 1931)

>

>

>

> Former First President Washington, the

> father of our country, died

> from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

> treatment. Washington had the

> best scientific medical attention of his day.

> And? They bled him no fewer

> than five times in three days. Let's do the

> grisly arithmetic. The first

> bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

> bleedings of unspecified

> quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

> and then a final full quart

> was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

> bleedings were also 14 ounces

> each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

> we have:

>

>

>

> 14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

>

>

>

> Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

> Washington. The human body

> contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

> (5 quarts) of blood. 88

> ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

> units; that's well over half

> the blood in a person. Some estimates place

> Washington's total bleeding

> closer to 8 units.

>

>

>

> It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

> an assassin, to kill a

> great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

> (from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

> 11-12)

>

>

>

> For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

> ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

>

>

>

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE

>

> This email contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I am

> making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding

> of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

> scientific, and social justice issues, etc.

>

> I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted

> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material in this

> email is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a

> prior interest in receiving the included information

> for research and educational purposes. For more information go to:

> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this update for purposes

> of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission

> from the copyright owner.

> _______________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

It is written in the Torah that all doctors should be condemned to

hell. The Torah makes the distinction between doctors and healers.

So this has been going on a long time.

As far a psychiatry goes, in general, psychiatrists are the most

misguided, unempathic, least enlightened people I have ever met. I

excuse myself in that I never intended to practice psychiatry. The

training was a vehicle to continue research on stress physiology.

It is almost impossible to believe that psychiatrists are entirely

handmaidens of insurance and drug companies. To the patients they act

like they are Gods, but this is just a coverup for lack of opinions,

lack of convictions, lack of morals. As human beings, psychiatrists

are low life forms.

When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial. Now the patient either agrees with

the drug or they are bipolar. It is a game of heads I win tails you lose.

Psychiatrists are highly vulnerable to state Medical Boards who do not

condone current practice. Psychiatrists are required to provide

warnings about possible side effects and treatment alternatives. This

almost never happens. I like the Medical Boards in that they truly

have the safety of the public in mind and are not bought off.

Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical Boards are simple.

Each time a shrink prescribes without warning about suicide,

withdrawal and (soon) permanant sexual dysfunction -- without citing

the data that exercise, psychotherapy, or supplements etc are

alternative treatments, they are in violation. You don't need damages

to complain to the Medical Board. The only thing that psychiatrists

respond to (besides advertising) is litigation, and in this regard I

encourage more litigation and Medical Board complaints against

psychiatrists.

>

> I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

> wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

> that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

> learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

> Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

>

> The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

> ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

> doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

> scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

> but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

> actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

> garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

> and they have only scratched the surface.

>

> Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

> practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

> then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

> involved.

>

> It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

> school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

> court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

> that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

> opinions.

>

> Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

> as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

> I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

> to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

>

> Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

>

> john

>

> WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

> DOCTOR

>

> (An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

>

>

>

> " General Washington was taken in the night (in

> December, 1799) with a sore

> throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

> from him 14 ounces of blood.

> The following morning, the family physician

> arrived, and proceeded to bleed

> him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

> again the same evening, giving

> him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

> morning he was given

> another dose. The next day another physician was

> called in consultation, and

> the result was that they took an additional 32

> ounces of blood from General

> Washington. There was no alleviation of the

> disease. Ten grains more of

> calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

> in large doses. To his

> extremities blisters were applied, and to his

> throat poultices. "

>

>

>

> " General Washington died. "

>

>

>

> (from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

> 31, 1931)

>

>

>

> Former First President Washington, the

> father of our country, died

> from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

> treatment. Washington had the

> best scientific medical attention of his day.

> And? They bled him no fewer

> than five times in three days. Let's do the

> grisly arithmetic. The first

> bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

> bleedings of unspecified

> quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

> and then a final full quart

> was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

> bleedings were also 14 ounces

> each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

> we have:

>

>

>

> 14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

>

>

>

> Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

> Washington. The human body

> contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

> (5 quarts) of blood. 88

> ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

> units; that's well over half

> the blood in a person. Some estimates place

> Washington's total bleeding

> closer to 8 units.

>

>

>

> It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

> an assassin, to kill a

> great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

> (from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

> 11-12)

>

>

>

> For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

> ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

>

>

>

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE

>

> This email contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I am

> making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding

> of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

> scientific, and social justice issues, etc.

>

> I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted

> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material in this

> email is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a

> prior interest in receiving the included information

> for research and educational purposes. For more information go to:

> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this update for purposes

> of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission

> from the copyright owner.

> _______________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

It is written in the Torah that all doctors should be condemned to

hell. The Torah makes the distinction between doctors and healers.

So this has been going on a long time.

As far a psychiatry goes, in general, psychiatrists are the most

misguided, unempathic, least enlightened people I have ever met. I

excuse myself in that I never intended to practice psychiatry. The

training was a vehicle to continue research on stress physiology.

It is almost impossible to believe that psychiatrists are entirely

handmaidens of insurance and drug companies. To the patients they act

like they are Gods, but this is just a coverup for lack of opinions,

lack of convictions, lack of morals. As human beings, psychiatrists

are low life forms.

When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial. Now the patient either agrees with

the drug or they are bipolar. It is a game of heads I win tails you lose.

Psychiatrists are highly vulnerable to state Medical Boards who do not

condone current practice. Psychiatrists are required to provide

warnings about possible side effects and treatment alternatives. This

almost never happens. I like the Medical Boards in that they truly

have the safety of the public in mind and are not bought off.

Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical Boards are simple.

Each time a shrink prescribes without warning about suicide,

withdrawal and (soon) permanant sexual dysfunction -- without citing

the data that exercise, psychotherapy, or supplements etc are

alternative treatments, they are in violation. You don't need damages

to complain to the Medical Board. The only thing that psychiatrists

respond to (besides advertising) is litigation, and in this regard I

encourage more litigation and Medical Board complaints against

psychiatrists.

>

> I have to wonder what the influences on doctors were back then. I

> wonder if they were anymore humble, meaning back then, they knew then

> that there was more that they didn't know than what they already had

> learned. Today some doctors believe they are Gods, but that is ok.

> Let them think that as long as the plublic knows otherwise.

>

> The problem is some of todays psychiatrists can and will force their

> ideas upon us. Just because they went to school for about 10 years

> doesn't mean they learned anything and also there is not good

> scientific proof behind what they were taught. Now, I can not help

> but believe that " all " psychiatrists are not stupid. Some of them

> actually know the truth about psychiatry, meaning that a lot of it is

> garbage. Some of them realize that the brain is a very complex organ

> and they have only scratched the surface.

>

> Then there are the influences on what they were taught and how they

> practice. The biggest outside influence, I would say is money and

> then there is the psychiatrists own character that taints any science

> involved.

>

> It really astonishes me how a set of twins could go to the same

> school and learn the " same " thing and yet appose each other in a

> court room, debating the sanity of a person. This in itself proves

> that it is either the money or their own characters involved in their

> opinions.

>

> Pity the person on trial or the person they could lock up or drug up

> as far as justice goes. My intentions are to plead the fifth, if ever

> I am forced to be questioned by a psychiatrist. When you are forced

> to talk to a psychiatrist, he/she is the judge, jury and executioner.

>

> Please refer to the " FAIR USE NOTICE " regarding my intentions.

>

> john

>

> WHY GEORGE WASHINGTON SHOULD HAVE FIRED HIS

> DOCTOR

>

> (An excerpt from my new book, FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! " by DR. SAUL MD

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html )

>

>

>

> " General Washington was taken in the night (in

> December, 1799) with a sore

> throat. The 'bleeder' being sent for, he took

> from him 14 ounces of blood.

> The following morning, the family physician

> arrived, and proceeded to bleed

> him copiously, twice within a few hours, and

> again the same evening, giving

> him thereafter a dose of calomel (mercury). Next

> morning he was given

> another dose. The next day another physician was

> called in consultation, and

> the result was that they took an additional 32

> ounces of blood from General

> Washington. There was no alleviation of the

> disease. Ten grains more of

> calomel were given, followed by a tartar emetic

> in large doses. To his

> extremities blisters were applied, and to his

> throat poultices. "

>

>

>

> " General Washington died. "

>

>

>

> (from the Pittsburgh Health Club Newsletter, July

> 31, 1931)

>

>

>

> Former First President Washington, the

> father of our country, died

> from a sore throat? No sir: he died from the

> treatment. Washington had the

> best scientific medical attention of his day.

> And? They bled him no fewer

> than five times in three days. Let's do the

> grisly arithmetic. The first

> bleeding removed 14 ounces; there were then three

> bleedings of unspecified

> quantity, collectively described as " copious " ;

> and then a final full quart

> was removed. Assuming that the three " copious "

> bleedings were also 14 ounces

> each, that is another 42 ounces lost. Adding up,

> we have:

>

>

>

> 14 + (14 x 3) + 32 = 88

>

>

>

> Some 88 ounces of blood was taken from

> Washington. The human body

> contains about 10 units, that is to say 10 pints

> (5 quarts) of blood. 88

> ounces is pretty close to 3 quarts, or nearly 6

> units; that's well over half

> the blood in a person. Some estimates place

> Washington's total bleeding

> closer to 8 units.

>

>

>

> It doesn't take a conspiracy, nor does it require

> an assassin, to kill a

> great man. Stupidity will do it just as well.

> (from Fire Your Doctor!, pages

> 11-12)

>

>

>

> For more information about FIRE YOUR DOCTOR! :

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/detail.php?

> ProductID=43 & PHPSESSID=ea7dfcd3580f4b56516da99899e32f92

>

>

>

> http://www.basichealthpub.com/listings.php?CategoryID=6

>

>

>

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/fyd.html

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE

>

> This email contains copyrighted material the use of which has not

> always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I am

> making such material available in my efforts to advance understanding

> of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy,

> scientific, and social justice issues, etc.

>

> I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted

> material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In

> accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material in this

> email is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a

> prior interest in receiving the included information

> for research and educational purposes. For more information go to:

> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml

> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this update for purposes

> of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission

> from the copyright owner.

> _______________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I like the Medical Boards in

> that they truly

> have the safety of the public in mind and are not

> bought off.

> Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical

> Boards are simple.

In our case, the board did NOTHING. My son was beaten

up, in a state hospital, by another youth. He was

taken to hospital, and he was sent back to the centre.

The staff woke him up every two hours looking for

signs of concusion. He was woken up at 6am, sent for a

three hour trip to Baltimore city, where he was given

a full psyc, eval. Dr never took into account

the trauma of the evening before. Dr refused my

phone calls. When I did talk to him he told me he got

all information from the state( who was prosecuting

Nick for taking a gun to school. His suicide attempt).

We sent a subpeona to Dr , to answer his report

in court. He did not show up. We reported his failure

to follow the DSM guidelines. They found No

fault.land is one of the worsed states for

reporting doctors, in any field. It has also the

worsed Juvinile Justice system. The state has been

trying to fix it for years. DJS is not supposed to

send anything to the school district without our

permision, they sent Dr report. We now have to

fight to get it removed for Nicks records. I do not

believe the Medical board cares for the patient at

all.

Maggs.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I like the Medical Boards in

> that they truly

> have the safety of the public in mind and are not

> bought off.

> Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical

> Boards are simple.

In our case, the board did NOTHING. My son was beaten

up, in a state hospital, by another youth. He was

taken to hospital, and he was sent back to the centre.

The staff woke him up every two hours looking for

signs of concusion. He was woken up at 6am, sent for a

three hour trip to Baltimore city, where he was given

a full psyc, eval. Dr never took into account

the trauma of the evening before. Dr refused my

phone calls. When I did talk to him he told me he got

all information from the state( who was prosecuting

Nick for taking a gun to school. His suicide attempt).

We sent a subpeona to Dr , to answer his report

in court. He did not show up. We reported his failure

to follow the DSM guidelines. They found No

fault.land is one of the worsed states for

reporting doctors, in any field. It has also the

worsed Juvinile Justice system. The state has been

trying to fix it for years. DJS is not supposed to

send anything to the school district without our

permision, they sent Dr report. We now have to

fight to get it removed for Nicks records. I do not

believe the Medical board cares for the patient at

all.

Maggs.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I like the Medical Boards in

> that they truly

> have the safety of the public in mind and are not

> bought off.

> Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical

> Boards are simple.

In our case, the board did NOTHING. My son was beaten

up, in a state hospital, by another youth. He was

taken to hospital, and he was sent back to the centre.

The staff woke him up every two hours looking for

signs of concusion. He was woken up at 6am, sent for a

three hour trip to Baltimore city, where he was given

a full psyc, eval. Dr never took into account

the trauma of the evening before. Dr refused my

phone calls. When I did talk to him he told me he got

all information from the state( who was prosecuting

Nick for taking a gun to school. His suicide attempt).

We sent a subpeona to Dr , to answer his report

in court. He did not show up. We reported his failure

to follow the DSM guidelines. They found No

fault.land is one of the worsed states for

reporting doctors, in any field. It has also the

worsed Juvinile Justice system. The state has been

trying to fix it for years. DJS is not supposed to

send anything to the school district without our

permision, they sent Dr report. We now have to

fight to get it removed for Nicks records. I do not

believe the Medical board cares for the patient at

all.

Maggs.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I like the Medical Boards in

> that they truly

> have the safety of the public in mind and are not

> bought off.

> Lawsuits are difficult. Complaints to the Medical

> Boards are simple.

In our case, the board did NOTHING. My son was beaten

up, in a state hospital, by another youth. He was

taken to hospital, and he was sent back to the centre.

The staff woke him up every two hours looking for

signs of concusion. He was woken up at 6am, sent for a

three hour trip to Baltimore city, where he was given

a full psyc, eval. Dr never took into account

the trauma of the evening before. Dr refused my

phone calls. When I did talk to him he told me he got

all information from the state( who was prosecuting

Nick for taking a gun to school. His suicide attempt).

We sent a subpeona to Dr , to answer his report

in court. He did not show up. We reported his failure

to follow the DSM guidelines. They found No

fault.land is one of the worsed states for

reporting doctors, in any field. It has also the

worsed Juvinile Justice system. The state has been

trying to fix it for years. DJS is not supposed to

send anything to the school district without our

permision, they sent Dr report. We now have to

fight to get it removed for Nicks records. I do not

believe the Medical board cares for the patient at

all.

Maggs.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

" When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial "

That's true. There is definately an arrogance factor there. I guess

there will always be problems when a person or profession comes btwn.

the individual and his/her own mind.

[Guest guest]

" When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial "

That's true. There is definately an arrogance factor there. I guess

there will always be problems when a person or profession comes btwn.

the individual and his/her own mind.

[Guest guest]

" When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial "

That's true. There is definately an arrogance factor there. I guess

there will always be problems when a person or profession comes btwn.

the individual and his/her own mind.

[Guest guest]

" When analysis was in vogue, the patient either had to agree with the

analyst or they were in denial "

That's true. There is definately an arrogance factor there. I guess

there will always be problems when a person or profession comes btwn.

the individual and his/her own mind.