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I like this Dr. Jerome Groopman. I sure wish all of us had doctors with his

philosophy. Thanks for sending it in. It gives me hope that there are

doctors that really listen and care.

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From: Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 11:22 AM

Subject: [ ] Doctors who Listen

> Me Mom ,

>

> This is a very important point. Doctors who listen are the very best at

what

> they do; those physicians who don't value our input are overlooking a key

> element necessary to truly help us.

>

> In Dr. Jerome Groopman's book " Second Opinions, " he says this:

>

> " I make no pretense of omniscience. Decisions about diagnosis and

treatment

> are complex. There are dark corners to every clinical situation. Knowledge

> in medicine is imperfect. No diagnostic test is flawless. No drug is

without

> side effects, expected or idiosyncratic. No prognosis is fully

predictable.

>

> Still, there are important landmarks that help doctor and patient

> successfully navigate this uncertain terrain. A clinical compass is built

> not only from the doctor's medical knowledge but also from joining his

> intuition with that of his patient. This melding of minds occurs when the

> physician probes not only his patient's body but also his spirit,

> considering not only the physical repair required but also the

psychological

> and emotional needs. Eliciting a patient's intuitive sense of his

condition

> is not simple. It takes time and open dialogue to build trust with a

person

> and to encourage him to express himself. "

>

> Beautiful! I believe that this is something that every doctor or med

school

> student should read and take to heart.

>

>

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This is well put . I couldn't agree enough with it. Thanks for

posting this valuable information.

Me Mom

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> From: Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

> egroups

> Subject: [ ] Doctors who Listen

> Date: Saturday, December 30, 2000 11:22 AM

>

> Me Mom ,

>

> This is a very important point. Doctors who listen are the very best at

what

> they do; those physicians who don't value our input are overlooking a key

> element necessary to truly help us.

>

> In Dr. Jerome Groopman's book " Second Opinions, " he says this:

>

> " I make no pretense of omniscience. Decisions about diagnosis and

treatment

> are complex. There are dark corners to every clinical situation.

Knowledge

> in medicine is imperfect. No diagnostic test is flawless. No drug is

without

> side effects, expected or idiosyncratic. No prognosis is fully

predictable.

>

> Still, there are important landmarks that help doctor and patient

> successfully navigate this uncertain terrain. A clinical compass is built

> not only from the doctor's medical knowledge but also from joining his

> intuition with that of his patient. This melding of minds occurs when the

> physician probes not only his patient's body but also his spirit,

> considering not only the physical repair required but also the

psychological

> and emotional needs. Eliciting a patient's intuitive sense of his

condition

> is not simple. It takes time and open dialogue to build trust with a

person

> and to encourage him to express himself. "

>

> Beautiful! I believe that this is something that every doctor or med

school

> student should read and take to heart.

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Valued Compaq Customer " <ruf-caimi@...>

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> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:59 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] I'm home too...

>

>

> > Hi Jeannette,

> > You keep reminding that doctor that you have a problem with drugs. It

is

> > very important that he NOT forget that. You know what you can and can

not

> > take. I find it amazing how the doctors don't listen to us and think

they

> > can ignore what we are saying. I was into all what I thought was best

for

> > me yesterday when I spoke to the Rheumy's secretary, she was tying it

as

> > fast as she could. I don't think there is any doubt in anyone's mind

what

> > I think maybe what is right for me. I am thinking the Rheumy may know

a

> > good GI doctor he sort of mentioned it last time I talked to him.

> > I also think when these doctor don't want to listen to us, it turns

into

> > frustration on their part. God forbid we have better suggestions or

> > answers then they have. I often wonder how many of these doctor have

any

> > first hand knowledge other than medical of these diseases. How many

have

> > seen a mother, father, sister, or brother actually suffer it. I think

you

> > would have to be close to someone to understand it all.

> > You are like me, Jeannette we don't tolerate drugs well. We know it

but

> > getting it across to some of these yoyo doctors is another story. I

must

> > say though that my Rheumy doesn't mind my researching or coming here

for

> > advise. He is always willing to talk about it.

> > I hope the New Year bring you some peace. I can only tell you, I never

> > had the chance to tell my Dad what he meant to me, he died so quickly.

> > Take this time and tell your parents, they know it but for your peace

of

> > mind for whatever the future holds do it.

> > Me Mom

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This is a very very great article. We should send it to all our drs. I

think it is vitally important that they listen to patients. We live in these

bodies 24/7 and know every little change etc. They need to listen to the

total picture we present, not just a portion. They also need to know us as

individuals, not just another patient.

Jeannette

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