Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 After ten years of Dexedrine, stopping it will result in withdrawal that will have fatigue as a major symptom. It is not easy to stop after such a long time. Xyrem is the well known party drug GHB. It is highly sedating and taken at night. The mechanism of action isn't known, and doesn't really make sense to me except that maybe it knocks the patient out so thoroughly at night that they aren't drowsy the next day. It is typically not covered by insurance and costs over $1000/month. The primary use of it is to reduce cataplexy. The manufacturer, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, pleaded guilty to felony charges of marketing it aggressively for off label use, particularly to psychiatrists. My opinion: there is no medical data to suggest that Xyrem is more effective than the already proven Dexedrine. Xyrem is a lot more toxic than Dexedrine, a lot more expensive and there is no reason to change from a cheap drug with a proven track record to a highly expensive drug that might not work, while aggravating daytime drowsiness due to Dexedrine withdrawal. My guess is that the doctor is financially involved with Jazz. I would run, not walk, away from that psychiatrist. > > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really appreciate it. > Gehris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 After ten years of Dexedrine, stopping it will result in withdrawal that will have fatigue as a major symptom. It is not easy to stop after such a long time. Xyrem is the well known party drug GHB. It is highly sedating and taken at night. The mechanism of action isn't known, and doesn't really make sense to me except that maybe it knocks the patient out so thoroughly at night that they aren't drowsy the next day. It is typically not covered by insurance and costs over $1000/month. The primary use of it is to reduce cataplexy. The manufacturer, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, pleaded guilty to felony charges of marketing it aggressively for off label use, particularly to psychiatrists. My opinion: there is no medical data to suggest that Xyrem is more effective than the already proven Dexedrine. Xyrem is a lot more toxic than Dexedrine, a lot more expensive and there is no reason to change from a cheap drug with a proven track record to a highly expensive drug that might not work, while aggravating daytime drowsiness due to Dexedrine withdrawal. My guess is that the doctor is financially involved with Jazz. I would run, not walk, away from that psychiatrist. > > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really appreciate it. > Gehris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 After ten years of Dexedrine, stopping it will result in withdrawal that will have fatigue as a major symptom. It is not easy to stop after such a long time. Xyrem is the well known party drug GHB. It is highly sedating and taken at night. The mechanism of action isn't known, and doesn't really make sense to me except that maybe it knocks the patient out so thoroughly at night that they aren't drowsy the next day. It is typically not covered by insurance and costs over $1000/month. The primary use of it is to reduce cataplexy. The manufacturer, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, pleaded guilty to felony charges of marketing it aggressively for off label use, particularly to psychiatrists. My opinion: there is no medical data to suggest that Xyrem is more effective than the already proven Dexedrine. Xyrem is a lot more toxic than Dexedrine, a lot more expensive and there is no reason to change from a cheap drug with a proven track record to a highly expensive drug that might not work, while aggravating daytime drowsiness due to Dexedrine withdrawal. My guess is that the doctor is financially involved with Jazz. I would run, not walk, away from that psychiatrist. > > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really appreciate it. > Gehris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 After ten years of Dexedrine, stopping it will result in withdrawal that will have fatigue as a major symptom. It is not easy to stop after such a long time. Xyrem is the well known party drug GHB. It is highly sedating and taken at night. The mechanism of action isn't known, and doesn't really make sense to me except that maybe it knocks the patient out so thoroughly at night that they aren't drowsy the next day. It is typically not covered by insurance and costs over $1000/month. The primary use of it is to reduce cataplexy. The manufacturer, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, pleaded guilty to felony charges of marketing it aggressively for off label use, particularly to psychiatrists. My opinion: there is no medical data to suggest that Xyrem is more effective than the already proven Dexedrine. Xyrem is a lot more toxic than Dexedrine, a lot more expensive and there is no reason to change from a cheap drug with a proven track record to a highly expensive drug that might not work, while aggravating daytime drowsiness due to Dexedrine withdrawal. My guess is that the doctor is financially involved with Jazz. I would run, not walk, away from that psychiatrist. > > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really appreciate it. > Gehris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi, Some psychiatrists will prescribe anything. Your friend should see a Neurologist. Sincerely, --- kgenterprises2001 <kgenterprises2001@...> wrote: > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on > dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her > narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor > that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently > saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he > told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is > now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would > happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or > her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just > can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is > used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have > looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really > appreciate it. > Gehris > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi, Some psychiatrists will prescribe anything. Your friend should see a Neurologist. Sincerely, --- kgenterprises2001 <kgenterprises2001@...> wrote: > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on > dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her > narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor > that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently > saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he > told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is > now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would > happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or > her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just > can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is > used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have > looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really > appreciate it. > Gehris > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi, Some psychiatrists will prescribe anything. Your friend should see a Neurologist. Sincerely, --- kgenterprises2001 <kgenterprises2001@...> wrote: > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on > dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her > narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor > that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently > saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he > told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is > now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would > happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or > her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just > can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is > used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have > looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really > appreciate it. > Gehris > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Hi, Some psychiatrists will prescribe anything. Your friend should see a Neurologist. Sincerely, --- kgenterprises2001 <kgenterprises2001@...> wrote: > Hi all, > I have a friend that is narcoleptic. She has been on > dexidrine for 10 > years and she said that it was controlling her > narcolepsy. She sees a > psychiatrist for this. Is this the kind of doctor > that prescribes > these kinds of meds? The doctor that she recently > saw wanted her to > change her medication and she didn't want to so he > told her that he > would not give her the dexidrine either. So she is > now without her > medication and she has two little kids. If she would > happen to have an > episode it could be dangerous either to her kids or > her. Does anyone > know anything about this or these two drugs? I just > can't believe that > this doctor would not give her the medication she is > used to until she > decides what she wants to do. From what I have > looked at the xyrem is > not a good thing. Thanks for any info!!! I really > appreciate it. > Gehris > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Actually,your questions are great. Atripla, like Kaletra plus nucleosides, can work for years and years if you are adherent to your medications and naive to treatment. The longest studied drug, Kaletra, has shown effectiveness is many naive patients over a 7 year period and they are still taking it. Atripla's side effects can be short term (sleep disturbance, nightmares, etc) or longer term in some (depression, gynecomastia, fatigue). But most people I know who take Atripla are side effect free after a few months of taking it. Regards, VergelDirectorProgram for Wellness Restorationpowerusa dot org In a message dated 8/5/2008 6:18:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, scoobyjeff1974@... writes: Does anyone know how long one can be on "Atripla" for example, before they may have to switch to another HIV medication regimen? How long will "Atripla" work before it quits working? Will side effects from "Atripla" show up later, rather than sooner? Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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