Re: I am sick

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,

I'm sorry that you're not feeling well. Try drinking some decaf tea with a

spoonful of honey and a squeeze of lemon. This always seemed to help me when

I had an upper respitory onfection. I've heard that honey is good for

asthma. Maybe you could call your RA MD and he could call you in an

antibiotic. The hard part is knowing if it's bacterial or viral. Hang in

there, you're in our prayers,

Barb in CA

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From: <dat2352@...>

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Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 6:02 AM

Subject: [ ] I am sick

>Need to vent. I am sick-I'm sure that I am in the early stages of

>bronchitis-temp 100, coughing up green gunk! My problem is that I have a

>new Primary who doesn't really;y know me. My other Dr. retired. If I had

>called here, she would have just prescribed antibiotic but I'm sure this

one

>won't. I am on remicade (contra-indication with infection), have severe

>asthma-my lungs are killing me and have a major surgery scheduled in 2

>weeks. She's not in until 10 AM. Maybe I can talk her into it. I don't

>feel well enough to go in. She is on the 7th floor of a Medical Building.

>Oh and there is so much to do and I can't do it. I am really depressed,

>well more than normal anyway.

>

> Temple

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>3 Fox Haven Way

>Chelmsford, MA 01824

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,

I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. Do try and go to your Dr if she want call

in a RX for you. I know when your sick the last thing you want to do is get

dressed, drive to a dr's office and then sit around for an hour or so, but

sometimes it's what we have to do to get the rx's we need. My primary want

ever give me any kind of rx without going in to see her. I think she wants

to charge to office visit .

Hope you feel better soon. Tery - FL

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:

Sounds like you fell right into the flu season. It is more difficult being

on an immune suppressant drug too. You need some antibiotics ASAP somehow

someway. I hope our dr. will prescribe some over the phone without you

having to go in. Perhaps your Rheumie might do the same for you since he/she

is familiar with your condition and circumstances. Hang in there kiddo, stay

warm, drink lots of fluids and get lots of rest. Sorry you are sick.

Jeannette

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hi denise, i just read your post. sounds kinda like me about a month ago. i

am finally starting to feel better that way. but my ankles and back are

really sore and stiff. i finally picked up my disability papers today. i was

shocked when i saw she put me out indefinatly. unable to perform lifting,

prolonged sitting, standing, fine manipulation. what am i gonna do now? i am

on 1/2 pay now for up to a year. i also gave them a prescription for an

adjustable desk. so hopefully they can put me back to work sometime soon.

hang in there. it will get better. just gotta take one thing at a time. good

luck with the dr.

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,

You sound really miserable. I'm so sorry.

Please try to forget your " to do " list for awhile. I know it's easier

said than done, but you've got to concentrate on getting over this

infection. Could someone else do some of those things for you?

I know you don't feel like going in, but many doctors just won't

prescribe over the phone, especially if they don't know you well. As

difficult to go in as it is, overall it's in your best interest and

the doctor's, too. Especially since you have so many health problems

and have surgery coming up, the doctor will probably want to check

you out to make the diagnosis certain. What if it's not really

bronchitis? What if there are other complications? For your safety,

you probably should be seen.

Please let us know what happens.

> Need to vent. I am sick-I'm sure that I am in the early stages of

> bronchitis-temp 100, coughing up green gunk! My problem is that I

have a

> new Primary who doesn't really;y know me. My other Dr. retired.

If I had

> called here, she would have just prescribed antibiotic but I'm sure

this one

> won't. I am on remicade (contra-indication with infection), have

severe

> asthma-my lungs are killing me and have a major surgery scheduled

in 2

> weeks. She's not in until 10 AM. Maybe I can talk her into it. I

don't

> feel well enough to go in. She is on the 7th floor of a Medical

Building.

> Oh and there is so much to do and I can't do it. I am really

depressed,

> well more than normal anyway.

>

> Temple

[Guest guest]

, I 'm sorry to hear how bad you are feeling...maybe your Rd will call

you in an antibiotic(mine does when he knows I know how sick I am)..I have

same problem with my PCP not knowing me as well as my last one...also what

about the surgeon..he wont want you sick so ...call him too ...just get some

meds to help you....Good luck , Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

i hope you feel better soon denise it sucks to be

sick thats for sure . try some chicken soup with lots

of garlic 6 or 7 cloves. wether it's good for you or

not it sure tastes good mmmm...

rhoda

--- <dat2352@...> wrote:

> Need to vent. I am sick-I'm sure that I am in the

> early stages of

> bronchitis-temp 100, coughing up green gunk! My

> problem is that I have a

> new Primary who doesn't really;y know me. My other

> Dr. retired. If I had

> called here, she would have just prescribed

> antibiotic but I'm sure this one

> won't. I am on remicade (contra-indication with

> infection), have severe

> asthma-my lungs are killing me and have a major

> surgery scheduled in 2

> weeks. She's not in until 10 AM. Maybe I can talk

> her into it. I don't

> feel well enough to go in. She is on the 7th floor

> of a Medical Building.

> Oh and there is so much to do and I can't do it. I

> am really depressed,

> well more than normal anyway.

>

> Temple

> Kuddle Kritters Farm

> 3 Fox Haven Way

> Chelmsford, MA 01824

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Hi ,

Today's Pasadena Star mentioned that the local hospitals in the Los Angeles

area had the highest number of patients with upper respiratory infections

ever recorded for the same time period. The article stated that it was

possibly caused by the delay in the flu vaccine. I hope you are feeling

better.

Patsy

-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto:dat2352@...]

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:01 AM

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Subject: [ ] I am sick

Need to vent. I am sick-I'm sure that I am in the early stages of

bronchitis-temp 100, coughing up green gunk! My problem is that I have a

new Primary who doesn't really;y know me. My other Dr. retired. If I had

called here, she would have just prescribed antibiotic but I'm sure this one

won't. I am on remicade (contra-indication with infection), have severe

asthma-my lungs are killing me and have a major surgery scheduled in 2

weeks. She's not in until 10 AM. Maybe I can talk her into it. I don't

feel well enough to go in. She is on the 7th floor of a Medical Building.

Oh and there is so much to do and I can't do it. I am really depressed,

well more than normal anyway.

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

dat2352@...

http://www.homestead.com/kuddlekrittersfarm/index.html

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I went to the doctor yesterday even though I was feeling a little better and

I DO have bronchitis and am now on antibiotics. I wonder if having asthma

makes me more prone to lung infections. Didn't think to ask! Today I feel

worse again and now my 15 year old son has a butte of a headcold too. Well

the Christmas decos will come down eventually!

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

dat2352@...

http://www.homestead.com/kuddlekrittersfarm/index.html

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You have such an amazing amount of information at hand. I am in awe!

Temple

Kuddle Kritters Farm

3 Fox Haven Way

Chelmsford, MA 01824

dat2352@...

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----- Original Message -----

From: Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] I am sick

> Glad that you made it in to see the doctor and that you got the

antibiotics

> your needed, . Yes, asthma is a risk factor for bronchitis. Here is

an

> article on the topic:

>

> http://www.readersdigesthealth.com/kbase/topic/major/hw32160/riskfact.htm

>

> Sorry your son is ill as well. I wish a quick recovery for both of you!

>

> My Christmas decorations are still up. The kids always want them to stay

as

> long as possible. I'm feeling lazy anyway, so they remain.

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " " <dat2352@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:27 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] I am sick

>

>

> > I went to the doctor yesterday even though I was feeling a little better

> and

> > I DO have bronchitis and am now on antibiotics. I wonder if having

asthma

> > makes me more prone to lung infections. Didn't think to ask! Today I

feel

> > worse again and now my 15 year old son has a butte of a headcold too.

> Well

> > the Christmas decos will come down eventually!

> >

> > Temple

>

>

>

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Glad that you made it in to see the doctor and that you got the antibiotics

your needed, . Yes, asthma is a risk factor for bronchitis. Here is an

article on the topic:

http://www.readersdigesthealth.com/kbase/topic/major/hw32160/riskfact.htm

Sorry your son is ill as well. I wish a quick recovery for both of you!

My Christmas decorations are still up. The kids always want them to stay as

long as possible. I'm feeling lazy anyway, so they remain.

----- Original Message -----

From: " " <dat2352@...>

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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] I am sick

> I went to the doctor yesterday even though I was feeling a little better

and

> I DO have bronchitis and am now on antibiotics. I wonder if having asthma

> makes me more prone to lung infections. Didn't think to ask! Today I feel

> worse again and now my 15 year old son has a butte of a headcold too.

Well

> the Christmas decos will come down eventually!

>

> Temple

[Guest guest]

,

I'm glad you got to the doctor and got medicine. I hope you and your son

feel better soon. My decorations are still up. I thought about taking

down my tree today, but never got passed the thought stage. I'll think

about it again tomorrow

I normally always have it down New Years Day.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <dat2352@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 8:27 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] I am sick

> I went to the doctor yesterday even though I was feeling a little better

and

> I DO have bronchitis and am now on antibiotics. I wonder if having asthma

> makes me more prone to lung infections. Didn't think to ask! Today I feel

> worse again and now my 15 year old son has a butte of a headcold too.

Well

> the Christmas decos will come down eventually!

>

> Temple

> Kuddle Kritters Farm

> 3 Fox Haven Way

> Chelmsford, MA 01824

>

> dat2352@...

> http://www.homestead.com/kuddlekrittersfarm/index.html

> http://www/homestead.com/kuddlekraft/index.html

>

>

>

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Don't worry a about the tree. Tomorrow is Epiphany-

" 3 Kings Day " - so the Christmas season is still not

officially over. I've used that as my excuse for years.

I hate to say it but I actually put some decorations out

last weekend- so the place wouldn't look too Scroogelike

when my sister and came for New Years. I had such

great plans this year- thinking that because I'd be home

on sick leave I'd really be able to enjoy the season-

never actually got that motivated though. I am beginning

to favor snowmen decorations cause I can justify them

most of the winter. LOL.

[Guest guest]

Hey, !

I believe today, January 6, is the Feast of the Epiphany - at least

for this Roman Catholic gal. My kids just finished opening their

presents.

I've decided that my tree will stay where it is until it is

officially a fire hazard or until the last day that Recycle Man will

come to pick it up, whichever comes first.

> Don't worry a about the tree. Tomorrow is Epiphany-

> " 3 Kings Day " - so the Christmas season is still not

> officially over. I've used that as my excuse for years.

> I hate to say it but I actually put some decorations out

> last weekend- so the place wouldn't look too Scroogelike

> when my sister and came for New Years. I had such

> great plans this year- thinking that because I'd be home

> on sick leave I'd really be able to enjoy the season-

> never actually got that motivated though. I am beginning

> to favor snowmen decorations cause I can justify them

> most of the winter. LOL.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for making me feel better. I've always been told I should wait until

Epiphany, but always took it down New Year's Day.

I had many plans too that didn't happen. Maybe next year we will both feel

better

for the holidays and make up for this year's lack of decorations

a

----- Original Message -----

From: <k.j.choate@...>

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Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:38 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] I am sick

> Don't worry a about the tree. Tomorrow is Epiphany-

> " 3 Kings Day " - so the Christmas season is still not

> officially over. I've used that as my excuse for years.

> I hate to say it but I actually put some decorations out

> last weekend- so the place wouldn't look too Scroogelike

> when my sister and came for New Years. I had such

> great plans this year- thinking that because I'd be home

> on sick leave I'd really be able to enjoy the season-

> never actually got that motivated though. I am beginning

> to favor snowmen decorations cause I can justify them

> most of the winter. LOL.

>

>

>

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billie jo

I a, sure that there are docs out there that finance - what city/state are you in? My PS was pretty inexpensive compared to some of the others I have heard of - maybe if you found the right one and explained the situation they would help. Mine cut me a great deal as he knew I was self pay. Later I did win an appeal w/ my insurance co and was reimbursed. use a credit card - borrow from family - use your tax return. where there is a will, there is a way!!

good luck!!

Shari

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> billie jo

>

> I a, sure that there are docs out there that finance - what

city/state are

> you in? My PS was pretty inexpensive compared to some of the

others I have

> heard of - maybe if you found the right one and explained the

situation they would

> help. Mine cut me a great deal as he knew I was self pay. Later

I did win

> an appeal w/ my insurance co and was reimbursed. use a credit

card - borrow

> from family - use your tax return. where there is a will, there

is a way!!

> good luck!!

>

> Shari

I live in Oregon...

I just called my sister and asked her to see if she could take

out a loan for me... We are trying to get our credit fixed right now

so we can't take out a loan.

Thanks for your advice...right now I just need a lot of support

until I can find a way to get it done.

Hugs, Billie-Jo

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DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE, BILLY JO? ----- Original Message ----- From: crazy7399wild Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: I am sick I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed without having the money to do it.Does anyone have any help on that subject.I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and get it over with.The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally convinced. I just want them out!!Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get them removed? Pleas help me, Billie-Jo

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BILLY JO, MANY TIMES DOCTORS CAN USE YOUR SYMPTOMS SUCH AS PAIN IN ORDER TO GET INSURANCE COMPANIES TO PAY. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH YOUR DOCTOR? THIS IS A MEDICAL ISSUE NOT PLASTIC SURGERY. GOOD LUCK, ANITA ----- Original Message ----- From: crazy7399wild Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: I am sick > DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE, BILLY JO?> No I have state medical, I am on disability SSI....> ----- Original Message -----> From: crazy7399wild> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:12 PM> > Subject: I am sick> > I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed > without having the money to do it.> Does anyone have any help on that subject> I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in > pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I > can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have > abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and > get it over with.> The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am > depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.> I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 > years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that > might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally > convinced. I just want them out!!> Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get > them removed?> Pleas help me, Billie-Jo> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Biily Jo I know my PS has a payment plan, and I am sure you can find out if any of the other ones also do also for explant. I am sure they do. You can finance getting them in. If there's a will, God knowing, there is a way. Try to start calling our recommended docs, tell them your situation, and see. Hope that helps... Love

----- Original Message -----

From: crazy7399wild

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:29 PM

Subject: Re: I am sick

> DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE, BILLY JO?> No I have state medical, I am on disability SSI....> ----- Original Message -----> From: crazy7399wild> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:12 PM> > Subject: I am sick> > I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed > without having the money to do it.> Does anyone have any help on that subject.> I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in > pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I > can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have > abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and > get it over with.> The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am > depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.> I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 > years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that > might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally > convinced. I just want them out!!> Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get > them removed?> Pleas help me, Billie-Jo> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey Billie-Jo,

Almost all of us had a hard time coming up with the money. It is very sad how we were taken advantage of and not told to be prepared for what could happen, which, of course, only makes the Plastic surgeons richer while we get ripped off.

Most of us had to really struggle to find the money. We borrow from family and friends, max out credit cards, dig into retirement accounts, take out loans, fight with insurance companies, and do whatever else it takes to find the funds for explant. One way or another, it usually works out. Some of the girls have had success with getting Medicaid to pay for it, so I hope you are given some tips on how to get help that way.

Unfortunately, there are not many foundations that have the funds to assist us. You might want to contact Dr. Zuckerman at the National Center for Policy Research for Women and Families...her organization is very supportive of our situations, and she may have access to some funds someway. I don't know. But it is worth a shot. Here is her link:

http://www.center4policy.org/

and I have communicated back and forth, and one of my questions was Why in the world are there not probono plastic surgery services available to those in need? We know that the attorneys offer probono services for legal aid in situations where it is needed, and it is expected of all attorney's to do this kind of work early in their careers. We desperately need probono services in the field of plastic surgery, but I am not holding my breath. It would be so nice if they could recognize the need to offer these services for women who are desperate, broke and extremely ill, too ill to work and take care of themselves. But they are just too greedy to be able to do anything as kind and compassionate as that. Jerks! It will probably never happen because the minute they do, they will be giving credibility to our claims. They can't bear to do that.

I hope you find a way Billie-Jo. Let us know.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: crazy7399wild

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:11 PM

Subject: I am sick

I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed without having the money to do it.Does anyone have any help on that subject.I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and get it over with.The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally convinced. I just want them out!!Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get them removed? Pleas help me, Billie-Jo

[Guest guest]

Well, I just found out it will cost me $3,852 to have my explantation. Not as bad as I thought, but now I have to find a way to come up with the money... husband has about $1000 in retirement fund... but that is it.

I have no family of my own, just my sister and she says she doesn't think she can help.

So now I am hoping to find a cosigner to get a loan for the money.

I can't get one myself but can with a cosigner.

Pray for me please.

Hugs, Billie-Jo

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: I am sick

Hey Billie-Jo,

Almost all of us had a hard time coming up with the money. It is very sad how we were taken advantage of and not told to be prepared for what could happen, which, of course, only makes the Plastic surgeons richer while we get ripped off.

Most of us had to really struggle to find the money. We borrow from family and friends, max out credit cards, dig into retirement accounts, take out loans, fight with insurance companies, and do whatever else it takes to find the funds for explant. One way or another, it usually works out. Some of the girls have had success with getting Medicaid to pay for it, so I hope you are given some tips on how to get help that way.

Unfortunately, there are not many foundations that have the funds to assist us. You might want to contact Dr. Zuckerman at the National Center for Policy Research for Women and Families...her organization is very supportive of our situations, and she may have access to some funds someway. I don't know. But it is worth a shot. Here is her link:

http://www.center4policy.org/

and I have communicated back and forth, and one of my questions was Why in the world are there not probono plastic surgery services available to those in need? We know that the attorneys offer probono services for legal aid in situations where it is needed, and it is expected of all attorney's to do this kind of work early in their careers. We desperately need probono services in the field of plastic surgery, but I am not holding my breath. It would be so nice if they could recognize the need to offer these services for women who are desperate, broke and extremely ill, too ill to work and take care of themselves. But they are just too greedy to be able to do anything as kind and compassionate as that. Jerks! It will probably never happen because the minute they do, they will be giving credibility to our claims. They can't bear to do that.

I hope you find a way Billie-Jo. Let us know.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: crazy7399wild

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:11 PM

Subject: I am sick

I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed without having the money to do it.Does anyone have any help on that subject.I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and get it over with.The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally convinced. I just want them out!!Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get them removed? Pleas help me, Billie-Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi Billie-Jo and Patty:

In 1993, I called the Department of Plastic Surgery, Methodist Hospital

in Houston, Texas and asked them to do a probono BI explant for a very

sick lady who had no money. They told me to have her call the social

services department of the hospital. She was accepted and her surgery

was done for free. I don't know if that would work now given the

continued controversary surrounding our issue but it might be worth a

try.

Take care.

Wanda

Billie-Jo wrote:

Well, I just found out it will cost me $3,852 to have my

explantation. Not as bad as I thought, but now I have to find a way to

come up with the money... husband has about $1000 in retirement fund...

but that is it.

I have no family of my own, just my sister and she says she

doesn't think she can help.

So now I am hoping to find a cosigner to get a loan for the

money.

I can't get one myself but can with a cosigner.

Pray for me please.

Hugs, Billie-Jo

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: I am sick

Hey Billie-Jo,

Almost all of us had a hard time coming up with the

money. It is very sad how we were taken advantage of and not told to

be prepared for what could happen, which, of course, only makes the

Plastic surgeons richer while we get ripped off.

Most of us had to really struggle to find the money.

We borrow from family and friends, max out credit cards, dig into

retirement accounts, take out loans, fight with insurance companies,

and do whatever else it takes to find the funds for explant. One way

or another, it usually works out. Some of the girls have had success

with getting Medicaid to pay for it, so I hope you are given some tips

on how to get help that way.

Unfortunately, there are not many foundations that

have the funds to assist us. You might want to contact Dr.

Zuckerman at the National Center for Policy Research for Women and

Families...her organization is very supportive of our situations, and

she may have access to some funds someway. I don't know. But it is

worth a shot. Here is her link:

http://www.center4policy.org/

and I have communicated back and forth, and one

of my questions was Why in the world are there not probono plastic

surgery services available to those in need? We know that the

attorneys offer probono services for legal aid in situations where it

is needed, and it is expected of all attorney's to do this kind of work

early in their careers. We desperately need probono services in the

field of plastic surgery, but I am not holding my breath. It would be

so nice if they could recognize the need to offer these services for

women who are desperate, broke and extremely ill, too ill to work and

take care of themselves. But they are just too greedy to be able to

do anything as kind and compassionate as that. Jerks! It will

probably never happen because the minute they do, they will be giving

credibility to our claims. They can't bear to do that.

I hope you find a way Billie-Jo. Let us know.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: crazy7399wild

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:11 PM

Subject: I am sick

I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants

removed

without having the money to do it.

Does anyone have any help on that subject.

I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in

pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I

can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have

abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and

get it over with.

The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am

depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.

I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3

years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that

might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally

convinced. I just want them out!!

Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get

them removed?

Pleas help me, Billie-Jo

[Guest guest]

Welfare will pay! Can't you buy the welfare insurance if you're on disability to give you extra coverage? God Bless, I'll be praying for you. simison <wan6922@...> wrote:

Hi Billie-Jo and Patty:In 1993, I called the Department of Plastic Surgery, Methodist Hospital in Houston, Texas and asked them to do a probono BI explant for a very sick lady who had no money. They told me to have her call the social services department of the hospital. She was accepted and her surgery was done for free. I don't know if that would work now given the continued controversary surrounding our issue but it might be worth a try. Take care.Wanda Billie-Jo wrote:

Well, I just found out it will cost me $3,852 to have my explantation. Not as bad as I thought, but now I have to find a way to come up with the money... husband has about $1000 in retirement fund... but that is it.

I have no family of my own, just my sister and she says she doesn't think she can help.

So now I am hoping to find a cosigner to get a loan for the money.

I can't get one myself but can with a cosigner.

Pray for me please.

Hugs, Billie-Jo

----- Original Message -----

From: ~*Patty*~

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 4:11 PM

Subject: Re: I am sick

Hey Billie-Jo,

Almost all of us had a hard time coming up with the money. It is very sad how we were taken advantage of and not told to be prepared for what could happen, which, of course, only makes the Plastic surgeons richer while we get ripped off.

Most of us had to really struggle to find the money. We borrow from family and friends, max out credit cards, dig into retirement accounts, take out loans, fight with insurance companies, and do whatever else it takes to find the funds for explant. One way or another, it usually works out. Some of the girls have had success with getting Medicaid to pay for it, so I hope you are given some tips on how to get help that way.

Unfortunately, there are not many foundations that have the funds to assist us. You might want to contact Dr. Zuckerman at the National Center for Policy Research for Women and Families...her organization is very supportive of our situations, and she may have access to some funds someway. I don't know. But it is worth a shot. Here is her link:

http://www.center4policy.org/

and I have communicated back and forth, and one of my questions was Why in the world are there not probono plastic surgery services available to those in need? We know that the attorneys offer probono services for legal aid in situations where it is needed, and it is expected of all attorney's to do this kind of work early in their careers. We desperately need probono services in the field of plastic surgery, but I am not holding my breath. It would be so nice if they could recognize the need to offer these services for women who are desperate, broke and extremely ill, too ill to work and take care of themselves. But they are just too greedy to be able to do anything as kind and compassionate as that. Jerks! It will probably never happen because the minute they do, they will be giving credibility to our claims. They can't bear to do that.

I hope you find a way Billie-Jo. Let us know.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: crazy7399wild

Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:11 PM

Subject: I am sick

I just want to know what I can do about getting my implants removed without having the money to do it.Does anyone have any help on that subject.I have been dizzy and foggy headed for almost a year and been in pain in my abdomin, arm, shoulder, jaw and can't breath well. I can't think straight and think Im losing my mind. I feel like I have abandoned my whole family and sometimes wish I would just die and get it over with.The Drs. keep telling me there is nothing wrong, they say I am depressed, have anxiety and need a psychiatrist.I am almost sure that it is my saline implants that I got almost 3 years ago.. after reading all of your stories. I have thought that might be what is was before now, but you guys have me totally convinced. I just want them out!!Is there any help out there when you know you have no money to get them removed? Pleas help me,

Billie-Jo

[Guest guest]

Wanda,

This is great information...I never heard of that before, but it certainly makes sense! At least it is good to know that the possibility of getting a probono explant is there. I guess it just takes talking to the right people.

The only caveat I can think of is that the kind of attention to detail in the surgery might not be there, when it is very, very necessary in our cases. But an explant done probono is still probably better than no explant at all.

Billie Jo, let us know if you seek this kind of assistance, and it works out for you.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: simison

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:26 PM

Subject: Re: I am sick

Hi Billie-Jo and Patty:In 1993, I called the Department of Plastic Surgery, Methodist Hospital in Houston, Texas and asked them to do a probono BI explant for a very sick lady who had no money. They told me to have her call the social services department of the hospital. She was accepted and her surgery was done for free. I don't know if that would work now given the continued controversary surrounding our issue but it might be worth a try. Take care.Wanda