Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 MK First of all after what you have gone through I must say that you showed a tremendous amount of restraint and I believe I can speak for everyone and say we're proud of you. That being said if I were a betting man I'd bet you will make your point at just the right time. Hard to believe they would hire an idiot to teach school but then we have them running the country so I shouldn't be suprised. Charlie BTW Please tell Nick I said hi. > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 MK First of all after what you have gone through I must say that you showed a tremendous amount of restraint and I believe I can speak for everyone and say we're proud of you. That being said if I were a betting man I'd bet you will make your point at just the right time. Hard to believe they would hire an idiot to teach school but then we have them running the country so I shouldn't be suprised. Charlie BTW Please tell Nick I said hi. > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 MK First of all after what you have gone through I must say that you showed a tremendous amount of restraint and I believe I can speak for everyone and say we're proud of you. That being said if I were a betting man I'd bet you will make your point at just the right time. Hard to believe they would hire an idiot to teach school but then we have them running the country so I shouldn't be suprised. Charlie BTW Please tell Nick I said hi. > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 MK First of all after what you have gone through I must say that you showed a tremendous amount of restraint and I believe I can speak for everyone and say we're proud of you. That being said if I were a betting man I'd bet you will make your point at just the right time. Hard to believe they would hire an idiot to teach school but then we have them running the country so I shouldn't be suprised. Charlie BTW Please tell Nick I said hi. > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maggs, I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new information and come to a new decision. Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so why waste good calories on them. Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! Best, Jim First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put my children on medication for this. A teacher told me I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart problems they would have a cure for it by the time these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of there before I said something that could cost me my job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend drugging children in her care. She later came to my room and said she did think ADHD was " overly diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were intelegent. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maggs, I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new information and come to a new decision. Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so why waste good calories on them. Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! Best, Jim First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put my children on medication for this. A teacher told me I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart problems they would have a cure for it by the time these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of there before I said something that could cost me my job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend drugging children in her care. She later came to my room and said she did think ADHD was " overly diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were intelegent. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maggs, I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new information and come to a new decision. Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so why waste good calories on them. Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! Best, Jim First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put my children on medication for this. A teacher told me I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart problems they would have a cure for it by the time these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of there before I said something that could cost me my job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend drugging children in her care. She later came to my room and said she did think ADHD was " overly diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were intelegent. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Maggs, I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new information and come to a new decision. Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so why waste good calories on them. Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! Best, Jim First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put my children on medication for this. A teacher told me I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart problems they would have a cure for it by the time these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of there before I said something that could cost me my job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend drugging children in her care. She later came to my room and said she did think ADHD was " overly diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were intelegent. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's a good point and well taken. Your right, there are thousands of NAMI members who are looking for help and would benefit from good advice. I'm afraid that I just don't agree with any NAMI advice. I feel you were lied to as all the rest of the people that are buying into their solutions. Even if the lie was no true information. NAMI as an organization are pharma flunkies at best. Best, Jim Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's a good point and well taken. Your right, there are thousands of NAMI members who are looking for help and would benefit from good advice. I'm afraid that I just don't agree with any NAMI advice. I feel you were lied to as all the rest of the people that are buying into their solutions. Even if the lie was no true information. NAMI as an organization are pharma flunkies at best. Best, Jim Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's a good point and well taken. Your right, there are thousands of NAMI members who are looking for help and would benefit from good advice. I'm afraid that I just don't agree with any NAMI advice. I feel you were lied to as all the rest of the people that are buying into their solutions. Even if the lie was no true information. NAMI as an organization are pharma flunkies at best. Best, Jim Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 That's a good point and well taken. Your right, there are thousands of NAMI members who are looking for help and would benefit from good advice. I'm afraid that I just don't agree with any NAMI advice. I feel you were lied to as all the rest of the people that are buying into their solutions. Even if the lie was no true information. NAMI as an organization are pharma flunkies at best. Best, Jim Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 It isn't the association with members of NAMI , who want something other than SSRI psych med addiction. Its the leaders of nami itself who want their people " normalized " on SSRIs . How long would it take the pharms to dump NAMI , if the leaders changed their format, to non drug alternatives , that are healthier? I get off meds, I go to Nami, I get mad at the whole drugging thing, with my friends, I'm reminded , reported , then asked to ? If I talk to a psych, I want it one on one , in the street where I have a chance at survival without his/her thugs attached, to drag me down Injection Hall Ave. I say NO ! , to all psych drugs period for me . They are toxic poison, skull and crossbones. danger . Just the money , used on teen screen could be used for W/D programs, to get everyone off the meds, instead of on them. What would everyone do, if they were forced into W/D , instead of forced into taking them? Weak or not, the users are dieing anyway. How many of the users of psych , did I know that were actually insane? less than ten out of hundreds, over a period of 30 years. Fine, take those, and incarcerate them in prison , and drug them there. They are criminals anyway. How do many get away from psych, tell them bluntly , we want alternatives, to drugs , and abuse. In my honest opinion, I can see a future, forced shortage , of psych meds, and even a huge withdrawal, with a population of screaming and withdrawing SSRI addicts. New Orleans will look like a picnic compared. Where is my Zoloft? what am I going to do now ? The pharmacy says only haldol today. Or nothing. I'm not telling anyone, not to take anything, or forcing them to do anything. I sure don't appreciate, being forced to take it from someone else. That was why I was so mad at New Mexico . We are mostly being drugged for others anyway, modified for family control. When I was in W/D the other SSRI users , were yelling at me, " You're sick , you're sick take your meds " My reply was always, NO ! , or I did take the meds . I lied. Placebo # 13 Even under court order , I still refused till they dragged me down and finally there wasn't any fight left. Even now , I still refuse . I cant grow on psych meds , I shrink till I'm sick. My internal organs are ruined from SSRI use. If they cant like me off psych meds , then they can get away, and stay away. Please no reminders, of my inability to cope with drug pushers and lawyers who ruin our lives. As long as they are away from me , I'm loving every minute of NO SSRIs. If they are around me, its them, that need to be drugged, not me. Imagine, the things that can be done without them. A world of roads, and life leading away from SSRI addiction. Real Growth. ---------------------------- Grant magnoliaig <LEstill491@...> wrote: Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 It isn't the association with members of NAMI , who want something other than SSRI psych med addiction. Its the leaders of nami itself who want their people " normalized " on SSRIs . How long would it take the pharms to dump NAMI , if the leaders changed their format, to non drug alternatives , that are healthier? I get off meds, I go to Nami, I get mad at the whole drugging thing, with my friends, I'm reminded , reported , then asked to ? If I talk to a psych, I want it one on one , in the street where I have a chance at survival without his/her thugs attached, to drag me down Injection Hall Ave. I say NO ! , to all psych drugs period for me . They are toxic poison, skull and crossbones. danger . Just the money , used on teen screen could be used for W/D programs, to get everyone off the meds, instead of on them. What would everyone do, if they were forced into W/D , instead of forced into taking them? Weak or not, the users are dieing anyway. How many of the users of psych , did I know that were actually insane? less than ten out of hundreds, over a period of 30 years. Fine, take those, and incarcerate them in prison , and drug them there. They are criminals anyway. How do many get away from psych, tell them bluntly , we want alternatives, to drugs , and abuse. In my honest opinion, I can see a future, forced shortage , of psych meds, and even a huge withdrawal, with a population of screaming and withdrawing SSRI addicts. New Orleans will look like a picnic compared. Where is my Zoloft? what am I going to do now ? The pharmacy says only haldol today. Or nothing. I'm not telling anyone, not to take anything, or forcing them to do anything. I sure don't appreciate, being forced to take it from someone else. That was why I was so mad at New Mexico . We are mostly being drugged for others anyway, modified for family control. When I was in W/D the other SSRI users , were yelling at me, " You're sick , you're sick take your meds " My reply was always, NO ! , or I did take the meds . I lied. Placebo # 13 Even under court order , I still refused till they dragged me down and finally there wasn't any fight left. Even now , I still refuse . I cant grow on psych meds , I shrink till I'm sick. My internal organs are ruined from SSRI use. If they cant like me off psych meds , then they can get away, and stay away. Please no reminders, of my inability to cope with drug pushers and lawyers who ruin our lives. As long as they are away from me , I'm loving every minute of NO SSRIs. If they are around me, its them, that need to be drugged, not me. Imagine, the things that can be done without them. A world of roads, and life leading away from SSRI addiction. Real Growth. ---------------------------- Grant magnoliaig <LEstill491@...> wrote: Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 It isn't the association with members of NAMI , who want something other than SSRI psych med addiction. Its the leaders of nami itself who want their people " normalized " on SSRIs . How long would it take the pharms to dump NAMI , if the leaders changed their format, to non drug alternatives , that are healthier? I get off meds, I go to Nami, I get mad at the whole drugging thing, with my friends, I'm reminded , reported , then asked to ? If I talk to a psych, I want it one on one , in the street where I have a chance at survival without his/her thugs attached, to drag me down Injection Hall Ave. I say NO ! , to all psych drugs period for me . They are toxic poison, skull and crossbones. danger . Just the money , used on teen screen could be used for W/D programs, to get everyone off the meds, instead of on them. What would everyone do, if they were forced into W/D , instead of forced into taking them? Weak or not, the users are dieing anyway. How many of the users of psych , did I know that were actually insane? less than ten out of hundreds, over a period of 30 years. Fine, take those, and incarcerate them in prison , and drug them there. They are criminals anyway. How do many get away from psych, tell them bluntly , we want alternatives, to drugs , and abuse. In my honest opinion, I can see a future, forced shortage , of psych meds, and even a huge withdrawal, with a population of screaming and withdrawing SSRI addicts. New Orleans will look like a picnic compared. Where is my Zoloft? what am I going to do now ? The pharmacy says only haldol today. Or nothing. I'm not telling anyone, not to take anything, or forcing them to do anything. I sure don't appreciate, being forced to take it from someone else. That was why I was so mad at New Mexico . We are mostly being drugged for others anyway, modified for family control. When I was in W/D the other SSRI users , were yelling at me, " You're sick , you're sick take your meds " My reply was always, NO ! , or I did take the meds . I lied. Placebo # 13 Even under court order , I still refused till they dragged me down and finally there wasn't any fight left. Even now , I still refuse . I cant grow on psych meds , I shrink till I'm sick. My internal organs are ruined from SSRI use. If they cant like me off psych meds , then they can get away, and stay away. Please no reminders, of my inability to cope with drug pushers and lawyers who ruin our lives. As long as they are away from me , I'm loving every minute of NO SSRIs. If they are around me, its them, that need to be drugged, not me. Imagine, the things that can be done without them. A world of roads, and life leading away from SSRI addiction. Real Growth. ---------------------------- Grant magnoliaig <LEstill491@...> wrote: Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 It isn't the association with members of NAMI , who want something other than SSRI psych med addiction. Its the leaders of nami itself who want their people " normalized " on SSRIs . How long would it take the pharms to dump NAMI , if the leaders changed their format, to non drug alternatives , that are healthier? I get off meds, I go to Nami, I get mad at the whole drugging thing, with my friends, I'm reminded , reported , then asked to ? If I talk to a psych, I want it one on one , in the street where I have a chance at survival without his/her thugs attached, to drag me down Injection Hall Ave. I say NO ! , to all psych drugs period for me . They are toxic poison, skull and crossbones. danger . Just the money , used on teen screen could be used for W/D programs, to get everyone off the meds, instead of on them. What would everyone do, if they were forced into W/D , instead of forced into taking them? Weak or not, the users are dieing anyway. How many of the users of psych , did I know that were actually insane? less than ten out of hundreds, over a period of 30 years. Fine, take those, and incarcerate them in prison , and drug them there. They are criminals anyway. How do many get away from psych, tell them bluntly , we want alternatives, to drugs , and abuse. In my honest opinion, I can see a future, forced shortage , of psych meds, and even a huge withdrawal, with a population of screaming and withdrawing SSRI addicts. New Orleans will look like a picnic compared. Where is my Zoloft? what am I going to do now ? The pharmacy says only haldol today. Or nothing. I'm not telling anyone, not to take anything, or forcing them to do anything. I sure don't appreciate, being forced to take it from someone else. That was why I was so mad at New Mexico . We are mostly being drugged for others anyway, modified for family control. When I was in W/D the other SSRI users , were yelling at me, " You're sick , you're sick take your meds " My reply was always, NO ! , or I did take the meds . I lied. Placebo # 13 Even under court order , I still refused till they dragged me down and finally there wasn't any fight left. Even now , I still refuse . I cant grow on psych meds , I shrink till I'm sick. My internal organs are ruined from SSRI use. If they cant like me off psych meds , then they can get away, and stay away. Please no reminders, of my inability to cope with drug pushers and lawyers who ruin our lives. As long as they are away from me , I'm loving every minute of NO SSRIs. If they are around me, its them, that need to be drugged, not me. Imagine, the things that can be done without them. A world of roads, and life leading away from SSRI addiction. Real Growth. ---------------------------- Grant magnoliaig <LEstill491@...> wrote: Jim, Maybe you shouldn't discount NAMI members so readily as unreachable. I used to belong to NAMI on the national level and went to the local meetings. Some members are just like I was, caught in the grips of psychotropic drugs. It's impossible to make rational decisions while on these drugs, especially when you don't realize the drugs are the cause. Once a person manages to somehow come out of the haze, rational thinking begins to step in again. If even one person had hinted to me that is was drugs causing my problem, a seed would have been planted. If more than one person had hinted, it might have tried to see if there was any truth to it. Please, please don't just decide a person is a lost cause simply because they belong to NAMI. > > Maggs, > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and your > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme need to > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain their " being > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately natural > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them into a more > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over the new > information and come to a new decision. > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are actively > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless anyways so > why waste good calories on them. > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a beautiful > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > Best, > Jim > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > there before I said something that could cost me my > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > intelegent. > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Guess I should have added that I don't agree with their advice either. It's just that when I needed help, they were the only ones I could find that offered help. Even if it was the wrong help. What I'm trying to say is, there are others who are simply looking for help and this is what they find - NAMI. If we could offer alternatives, a lot of these people could possible get headed in the right direction and faster. > > > > Maggs, > > > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and > your > > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme > need to > > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain > their " being > > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately > natural > > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them > into a more > > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over > the new > > information and come to a new decision. > > > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are > actively > > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless > anyways so > > why waste good calories on them. > > > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a > beautiful > > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > > there before I said something that could cost me my > > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > > intelegent. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Guess I should have added that I don't agree with their advice either. It's just that when I needed help, they were the only ones I could find that offered help. Even if it was the wrong help. What I'm trying to say is, there are others who are simply looking for help and this is what they find - NAMI. If we could offer alternatives, a lot of these people could possible get headed in the right direction and faster. > > > > Maggs, > > > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and > your > > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme > need to > > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain > their " being > > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately > natural > > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them > into a more > > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over > the new > > information and come to a new decision. > > > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are > actively > > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless > anyways so > > why waste good calories on them. > > > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a > beautiful > > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > > there before I said something that could cost me my > > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > > intelegent. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Guess I should have added that I don't agree with their advice either. It's just that when I needed help, they were the only ones I could find that offered help. Even if it was the wrong help. What I'm trying to say is, there are others who are simply looking for help and this is what they find - NAMI. If we could offer alternatives, a lot of these people could possible get headed in the right direction and faster. > > > > Maggs, > > > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and > your > > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme > need to > > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain > their " being > > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately > natural > > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them > into a more > > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over > the new > > information and come to a new decision. > > > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are > actively > > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless > anyways so > > why waste good calories on them. > > > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a > beautiful > > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > > there before I said something that could cost me my > > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > > intelegent. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Guess I should have added that I don't agree with their advice either. It's just that when I needed help, they were the only ones I could find that offered help. Even if it was the wrong help. What I'm trying to say is, there are others who are simply looking for help and this is what they find - NAMI. If we could offer alternatives, a lot of these people could possible get headed in the right direction and faster. > > > > Maggs, > > > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and > your > > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme > need to > > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain > their " being > > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately > natural > > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them > into a more > > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over > the new > > information and come to a new decision. > > > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are > actively > > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless > anyways so > > why waste good calories on them. > > > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a > beautiful > > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > > there before I said something that could cost me my > > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > > intelegent. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 I totally agree! www.alternativementalhealth.com is have all sorts of practitioners that can help. Best, Jim Guess I should have added that I don't agree with their advice either. It's just that when I needed help, they were the only ones I could find that offered help. Even if it was the wrong help. What I'm trying to say is, there are others who are simply looking for help and this is what they find - NAMI. If we could offer alternatives, a lot of these people could possible get headed in the right direction and faster. > > > > Maggs, > > > > I'm right there with Charlie! It's hard to get people to see and > your > > restraint was absolutely fantastic. I know I would feel an extreme > need to > > shout. People, especially those who have supported something that is > > questionable, will automatically become defensive to maintain > their " being > > right " . I've found that attacking them, which is the immediately > natural > > thing to do (and feels sooo good too!), will only entrench them > into a more > > defensive posture, which does not give them a chance to relook over > the new > > information and come to a new decision. > > > > Of course there are those, I call them the " NAMI people " who are > actively > > drugging their loved ones while refusing any other solution and also > > promoting unproven and deadly bio-psychiatry. They are hopeless > anyways so > > why waste good calories on them. > > > > Hope everything else is well with Nick and all your family. It's a > beautiful > > day here in Texas, I hope everyone enjoys their day today! > > > > Best, > > Jim > > > > > > First of all I am a sub-teacher. I was at work today, > > and talking about ADHD. I said that I would never put > > my children on medication for this. A teacher told me > > I was wrong, said it was " ...Just evening out the > > playing field " . I asked her if she heard about the > > heart problems associated with these drugs. Her reply > > floored me. She said " ..if the drugs caused heart > > problems they would have a cure for it by the time > > these kids are old enough for it to effect them " . I > > walked out of the lunch room. I needed to get out of > > there before I said something that could cost me my > > job. This is they type of teacher who would recommend > > drugging children in her care. She later came to my > > room and said she did think ADHD was " overly > > diagnosed " . Poor me, I thought teachers were > > intelegent. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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