Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 My mum got lung cancer and she was a non smoker and she was on an A.D. for 6-8 years. I also believe there's a correlation. That's why I wonder about Dana Reeve and if she was on an A.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 My mum got lung cancer and she was a non smoker and she was on an A.D. for 6-8 years. I also believe there's a correlation. That's why I wonder about Dana Reeve and if she was on an A.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 My mum got lung cancer and she was a non smoker and she was on an A.D. for 6-8 years. I also believe there's a correlation. That's why I wonder about Dana Reeve and if she was on an A.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could have had the Zoster virus in your system for a long time but the A.D. could have lowered your immune system's ability to fight it and hence an outbreak. Our immune system keeps many viruses 'at bay' in our systems, only to lose that ability when overloaded ie. a straw that breaks the camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could have had the Zoster virus in your system for a long time but the A.D. could have lowered your immune system's ability to fight it and hence an outbreak. Our immune system keeps many viruses 'at bay' in our systems, only to lose that ability when overloaded ie. a straw that breaks the camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could have had the Zoster virus in your system for a long time but the A.D. could have lowered your immune system's ability to fight it and hence an outbreak. Our immune system keeps many viruses 'at bay' in our systems, only to lose that ability when overloaded ie. a straw that breaks the camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could have had the Zoster virus in your system for a long time but the A.D. could have lowered your immune system's ability to fight it and hence an outbreak. Our immune system keeps many viruses 'at bay' in our systems, only to lose that ability when overloaded ie. a straw that breaks the camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Ellen, Shingles are the chicken pox virus. It lays dormant in your nerve paths. My father injured himself after starting an exercise routine and started taking vitamins like crazy and then got shingles. For him it came out where he was injured. He never took any antidepressants. I was wondering if he wasn't flushing some serious toxins, or at least stirring them up and that caused the outbreak, but don't really know. Jim Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Ellen, Shingles are the chicken pox virus. It lays dormant in your nerve paths. My father injured himself after starting an exercise routine and started taking vitamins like crazy and then got shingles. For him it came out where he was injured. He never took any antidepressants. I was wondering if he wasn't flushing some serious toxins, or at least stirring them up and that caused the outbreak, but don't really know. Jim Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Ellen, Shingles are the chicken pox virus. It lays dormant in your nerve paths. My father injured himself after starting an exercise routine and started taking vitamins like crazy and then got shingles. For him it came out where he was injured. He never took any antidepressants. I was wondering if he wasn't flushing some serious toxins, or at least stirring them up and that caused the outbreak, but don't really know. Jim Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Hi Ellen, Shingles are the chicken pox virus. It lays dormant in your nerve paths. My father injured himself after starting an exercise routine and started taking vitamins like crazy and then got shingles. For him it came out where he was injured. He never took any antidepressants. I was wondering if he wasn't flushing some serious toxins, or at least stirring them up and that caused the outbreak, but don't really know. Jim Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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