Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I saw this one over the weekend. More evidence that they have idea how these drugs react in the body. > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf cf0f2cc0b9.html > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by manipulating > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the user's > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that serotonin > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the chemical is > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know yet, > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors ) > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human immunity > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI antidepressants, > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact the > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > researcher on the study. > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a healthy > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to infections, it is > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that they > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how these > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the normal role of > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated with > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of antidepressants > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces between > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the brain, > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, the > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- one type > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to T-cells, > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- cells will > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering an immune > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take hours. > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic cells -- > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that can find > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune system > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell response. > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete serotonin, > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that these > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to secrete it in > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this transmission is > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of stimulating a > T cell response. " > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the parameters of > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits the > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that should be > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to people's > immune systems. " > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I saw this one over the weekend. More evidence that they have idea how these drugs react in the body. > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf cf0f2cc0b9.html > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by manipulating > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the user's > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that serotonin > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the chemical is > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know yet, > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors ) > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human immunity > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI antidepressants, > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact the > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > researcher on the study. > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a healthy > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to infections, it is > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that they > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how these > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the normal role of > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated with > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of antidepressants > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces between > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the brain, > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, the > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- one type > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to T-cells, > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- cells will > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering an immune > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take hours. > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic cells -- > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that can find > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune system > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell response. > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete serotonin, > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that these > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to secrete it in > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this transmission is > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of stimulating a > T cell response. " > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the parameters of > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits the > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that should be > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to people's > immune systems. " > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I saw this one over the weekend. More evidence that they have idea how these drugs react in the body. > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf cf0f2cc0b9.html > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by manipulating > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the user's > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that serotonin > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the chemical is > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know yet, > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors ) > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human immunity > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI antidepressants, > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact the > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > researcher on the study. > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a healthy > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to infections, it is > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that they > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how these > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the normal role of > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated with > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of antidepressants > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces between > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the brain, > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, the > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- one type > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to T-cells, > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- cells will > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering an immune > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take hours. > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic cells -- > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that can find > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune system > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell response. > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete serotonin, > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that these > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to secrete it in > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this transmission is > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of stimulating a > T cell response. " > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the parameters of > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits the > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that should be > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to people's > immune systems. " > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I saw this one over the weekend. More evidence that they have idea how these drugs react in the body. > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf cf0f2cc0b9.html > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by manipulating > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the user's > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that serotonin > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the chemical is > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know yet, > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors ) > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human immunity > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI antidepressants, > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact the > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > researcher on the study. > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a healthy > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to infections, it is > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that they > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how these > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the normal role of > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated with > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of antidepressants > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces between > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the brain, > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, the > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- one type > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to T-cells, > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- cells will > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering an immune > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take hours. > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic cells -- > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that can find > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune system > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell response. > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete serotonin, > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that these > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to secrete it in > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this transmission is > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of stimulating a > T cell response. " > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the parameters of > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits the > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that should be > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to people's > immune systems. " > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > manipulating > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > user's > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > serotonin > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > chemical is > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > yet, > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > inhibitors ) > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > immunity > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > antidepressants, > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > the > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > researcher on the study. > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > healthy > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > infections, it is > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > they > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > these > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > normal role of > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > with > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > antidepressants > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > between > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > brain, > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > the > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > one type > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > T-cells, > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > cells will > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > an immune > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > hours. > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > cells -- > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > can find > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > system > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > response. > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > serotonin, > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > these > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > secrete it in > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > transmission is > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > stimulating a > > T cell response. " > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > parameters of > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > the > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > should be > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > people's > > immune systems. " > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > manipulating > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > user's > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > serotonin > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > chemical is > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > yet, > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > inhibitors ) > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > immunity > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > antidepressants, > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > the > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > researcher on the study. > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > healthy > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > infections, it is > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > they > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > these > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > normal role of > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > with > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > antidepressants > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > between > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > brain, > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > the > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > one type > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > T-cells, > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > cells will > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > an immune > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > hours. > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > cells -- > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > can find > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > system > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > response. > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > serotonin, > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > these > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > secrete it in > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > transmission is > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > stimulating a > > T cell response. " > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > parameters of > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > the > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > should be > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > people's > > immune systems. " > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > manipulating > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > user's > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > serotonin > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > chemical is > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > yet, > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > inhibitors ) > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > immunity > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > antidepressants, > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > the > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > researcher on the study. > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > healthy > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > infections, it is > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > they > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > these > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > normal role of > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > with > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > antidepressants > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > between > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > brain, > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > the > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > one type > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > T-cells, > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > cells will > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > an immune > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > hours. > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > cells -- > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > can find > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > system > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > response. > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > serotonin, > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > these > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > secrete it in > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > transmission is > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > stimulating a > > T cell response. " > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > parameters of > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > the > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > should be > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > people's > > immune systems. " > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > manipulating > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > user's > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > serotonin > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > chemical is > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > yet, > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > inhibitors ) > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > immunity > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > antidepressants, > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > the > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > researcher on the study. > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > healthy > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > infections, it is > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > they > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > these > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > normal role of > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > with > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > antidepressants > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > between > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > brain, > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > the > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > one type > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > T-cells, > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > cells will > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > an immune > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > hours. > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > cells -- > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > can find > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > system > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > response. > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > serotonin, > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > these > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > secrete it in > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > transmission is > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > stimulating a > > T cell response. " > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > parameters of > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > the > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > should be > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > people's > > immune systems. " > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I completely agree 100%. At the same time I gotta hope the data will be promoted for the good of all. Jim At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I completely agree 100%. At the same time I gotta hope the data will be promoted for the good of all. Jim At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I completely agree 100%. At the same time I gotta hope the data will be promoted for the good of all. Jim At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I completely agree 100%. At the same time I gotta hope the data will be promoted for the good of all. Jim At this point Ahern is saying only that the immune system is affected by SSRIs and doesn't clearly argue that it is good or bad for your health. This is not new information. It has long been known that all of the neuronal receptors are also found on the surface of white blood cells. While sometimes honest research actually occurs, I imagine that Ahern will get grant money from the drug companies and the data will be twisted to make it look like SSRIs are 'immune boosters' and the lowly and easily manipulated doctors will start handing these out -- at first to boost the immune system in the face of an infection or virus or the flu -- and then... to prevent the flu during flu season. Of course, the people will be addicted to the drugs and unable to stop them, and when this happens they will be told that their underlying bipolar just emerged. I am cynical, to be sure, but I also believe that I am accurate. Remember, you read it here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with the shingles I was just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more information. I was on SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know if there is a connection? I am an otherwise health conscious person, take lots of supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot figure out why I got this virus. Ellen > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a Canadian > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > manipulating > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > user's > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, that > > serotonin > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > chemical is > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not know > > yet, > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > inhibitors ) > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on human > > immunity > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > antidepressants, > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also impact > > the > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and lead > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may restore a > > healthy > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > infections, it is > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point that > > they > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know how > > these > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > normal role of > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is associated > > with > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > antidepressants > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic spaces > > between > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in the > > brain, > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve cells, > > the > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical contact -- > > one type > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens to > > T-cells, > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the T- > > cells will > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, triggering > > an immune > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > hours. > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that dendritic > > cells -- > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones that > > can find > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the immune > > system > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T-cell > > response. > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > serotonin, > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T-cells. > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find that > > these > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > secrete it in > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > transmission is > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > stimulating a > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > parameters of > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or inhibits > > the > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > should be > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > people's > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hi Ellen I had shingles (herpes zoster) without being on any antidepressant ever. Herpes zoster is the same virus that causes chicken pox. If you had chicken pox as a child then you are susceptible. The virus never leaves your body, but rather it stays around until your immune system is weak or under stress and then can break out. My recurrence was simply caused by a bought with a cold which I think weakened my immune system. I had great success by taking two homeopathic meds - Sulphur and Rhus Tox 30x250 according to directions on bottles. I have never had a recurrence. Jay --- Ellen Heath <mariahpetuniajane@...> wrote: > Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with > the shingles I was > just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more > information. I was on > SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know > if there is a > connection? I am an otherwise health conscious > person, take lots of > supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot > figure out why I > got this virus. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human > immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical > Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat > depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain > may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet > understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for > the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune > system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune > response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective > serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a > damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that > commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into > neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at > town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that > SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed > and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity > to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we > just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need > to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern > said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between > neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and > the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within > the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive > effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate > between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " > through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a > response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " > display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the > antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in > population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This > process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, > however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting > cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and > " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly > excite a T-cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can > rapidly secrete > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hi Ellen I had shingles (herpes zoster) without being on any antidepressant ever. Herpes zoster is the same virus that causes chicken pox. If you had chicken pox as a child then you are susceptible. The virus never leaves your body, but rather it stays around until your immune system is weak or under stress and then can break out. My recurrence was simply caused by a bought with a cold which I think weakened my immune system. I had great success by taking two homeopathic meds - Sulphur and Rhus Tox 30x250 according to directions on bottles. I have never had a recurrence. Jay --- Ellen Heath <mariahpetuniajane@...> wrote: > Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with > the shingles I was > just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more > information. I was on > SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know > if there is a > connection? I am an otherwise health conscious > person, take lots of > supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot > figure out why I > got this virus. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human > immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical > Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat > depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain > may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet > understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for > the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune > system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune > response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective > serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a > damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that > commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into > neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at > town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that > SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed > and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity > to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we > just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need > to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern > said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between > neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and > the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within > the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive > effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate > between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " > through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a > response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " > display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the > antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in > population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This > process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, > however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting > cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and > " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly > excite a T-cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can > rapidly secrete > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hi Ellen I had shingles (herpes zoster) without being on any antidepressant ever. Herpes zoster is the same virus that causes chicken pox. If you had chicken pox as a child then you are susceptible. The virus never leaves your body, but rather it stays around until your immune system is weak or under stress and then can break out. My recurrence was simply caused by a bought with a cold which I think weakened my immune system. I had great success by taking two homeopathic meds - Sulphur and Rhus Tox 30x250 according to directions on bottles. I have never had a recurrence. Jay --- Ellen Heath <mariahpetuniajane@...> wrote: > Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with > the shingles I was > just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more > information. I was on > SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know > if there is a > connection? I am an otherwise health conscious > person, take lots of > supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot > figure out why I > got this virus. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human > immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical > Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat > depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain > may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet > understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for > the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune > system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune > response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective > serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a > damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that > commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into > neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at > town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that > SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed > and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity > to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we > just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need > to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern > said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between > neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and > the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within > the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive > effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate > between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " > through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a > response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " > display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the > antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in > population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This > process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, > however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting > cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and > " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly > excite a T-cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can > rapidly secrete > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Hi Ellen I had shingles (herpes zoster) without being on any antidepressant ever. Herpes zoster is the same virus that causes chicken pox. If you had chicken pox as a child then you are susceptible. The virus never leaves your body, but rather it stays around until your immune system is weak or under stress and then can break out. My recurrence was simply caused by a bought with a cold which I think weakened my immune system. I had great success by taking two homeopathic meds - Sulphur and Rhus Tox 30x250 according to directions on bottles. I have never had a recurrence. Jay --- Ellen Heath <mariahpetuniajane@...> wrote: > Hmm? Maybe these drugs have something to do with > the shingles I was > just diagnosed with. Wish I could find more > information. I was on > SSRI's for 10 years and off 2 1/2. Does anyone know > if there is a > connection? I am an otherwise health conscious > person, take lots of > supplements, exercise and plenty of sleep. Cannot > figure out why I > got this virus. > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human > immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical > Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat > depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain > may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet > understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for > the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune > system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune > response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective > serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a > damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that > commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into > neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at > town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that > SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed > and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity > to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we > just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need > to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern > said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between > neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and > the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within > the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive > effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate > between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " > through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a > response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " > display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the > antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in > population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This > process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, > however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting > cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and > " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly > excite a T-cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can > rapidly secrete > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I still can't figure out how I got spinal meningitis while I was on AD's. Prior to coming down with it, I had not been out of my house for 10 days. I also had very few visitors. I still think there is a correlation between the two. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T- cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > > serotonin, > > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T- cells. > > > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find > that > > > these > > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > > secrete it in > > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > > transmission is > > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > > stimulating a > > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > > parameters of > > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or > inhibits > > > the > > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > > should be > > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > > people's > > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I still can't figure out how I got spinal meningitis while I was on AD's. Prior to coming down with it, I had not been out of my house for 10 days. I also had very few visitors. I still think there is a correlation between the two. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T- cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > > serotonin, > > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T- cells. > > > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find > that > > > these > > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > > secrete it in > > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > > transmission is > > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > > stimulating a > > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > > parameters of > > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or > inhibits > > > the > > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > > should be > > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > > people's > > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I still can't figure out how I got spinal meningitis while I was on AD's. Prior to coming down with it, I had not been out of my house for 10 days. I also had very few visitors. I still think there is a correlation between the two. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T- cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > > serotonin, > > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T- cells. > > > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find > that > > > these > > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > > secrete it in > > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > > transmission is > > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > > stimulating a > > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > > parameters of > > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or > inhibits > > > the > > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > > should be > > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > > people's > > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I still can't figure out how I got spinal meningitis while I was on AD's. Prior to coming down with it, I had not been out of my house for 10 days. I also had very few visitors. I still think there is a correlation between the two. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.xagena.it/news/medicinenews_net_news/db4195f88b8dae852e94bf > > > cf0f2cc0b9.html > > > > > > > > SSRI antidepressants may also affect human immune system > > > > > > > > Researchers from town University Medical Center and a > Canadian > > > > research institute fpund that drugs that treat depression by > > > manipulating > > > > the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain may also affect the > > > user's > > > > immune system in ways that are not yet understood. > > > > That's because the investigators found, for the first time, > that > > > serotonin > > > > is passed between key cells in the immune system, and that the > > > chemical is > > > > specifically used to activate an immune response. They do not > know > > > yet, > > > > however, whether these SSRI ( selective serotonin reuptake > > > inhibitors ) > > > > drugs could have either a beneficial or a damaging effect on > human > > > immunity > > > > > > > > " The wider health implication is that commonly used SSRI > > > antidepressants, > > > > which target the uptake of serotonin into neurons, may also > impact > > > the > > > > uptake in immune cells, " said Gerard Ahern, at town and > lead > > > > researcher on the study. > > > > > > > > He said that while it may be possible that SSRI drugs may > restore a > > > healthy > > > > immune function in people who are depressed and prone to > > > infections, it is > > > > possible that they might also bolster immunity to the point > that > > > they > > > > trigger autoimmune disease. " At this point we just don't know > how > > > these > > > > drugs might affect immunity, so we really need to clarify the > > > normal role of > > > > serotonin in immune cell functioning, " Ahern said. > > > > > > > > In the brain, serotonin transmission between neurons is > associated > > > with > > > > feelings of pleasure, mood, and appetite, and the class of > > > antidepressants > > > > known as SSRIs keeps serotonin active within the synaptic > spaces > > > between > > > > neurons, enhancing the chemical's positive effects. Unlike in > the > > > brain, > > > > which uses chemical messengers to communicate between nerve > cells, > > > the > > > > immune system is believed to " converse " through physical > contact -- > > > one type > > > > of immune cell touches another, setting off a response. > > > > > > > > Specifically, " antigen presenting cells " display their antigens > to > > > T-cells, > > > > and a resulting physical coupling between the antigens and the > T- > > > cells will > > > > prompt the T-cells to divide and expand in population, > triggering > > > an immune > > > > response designed to destroy the invader. This process may take > > > hours. > > > > > > > > What the town researchers found, however, is that > dendritic > > > cells -- > > > > the most powerful of the antigen-presenting cells and the ones > that > > > can find > > > > invaders that have never infected the body and " educate " the > immune > > > system > > > > to fight them -- also use serotonin to quickly excite a T- cell > > > response. > > > > They discovered that these dendritic cells can rapidly secrete > > > serotonin, > > > > which activates serotonin receptors on certain types of T- cells. > > > > > > > > " In addition to the physical contact, it surprised us to find > that > > > these > > > > immune cells also have machinery to take up serotonin and to > > > secrete it in > > > > an excitatory manner, " Ahern said. " The point behind this > > > transmission is > > > > not entirely clear, but it appears to be an additional way of > > > stimulating a > > > > T cell response. " > > > > > > > > Drugs that block serotonin reuptake " likely change some of the > > > parameters of > > > > T-cell activation, but we don't know yet if it enhances or > inhibits > > > the > > > > total immune response, " Ahern said. " But it is something that > > > should be > > > > explored because we really have no idea what SSRIs are doing to > > > people's > > > > immune systems. " > > > > > > > > Source: town University Medical Center, 2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 My mum got lung cancer and she was a non smoker and she was on an A.D. for 6-8 years. I also believe there's a correlation. That's why I wonder about Dana Reeve and if she was on an A.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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