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‘The dope made me do it’

Posted: January 8, 2001

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Geoff Metcalf

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Someone far more learned and wise than me once noted, “If I supply you a

thought you may remember it and you may not. But if I can make you think a

thought for yourself, I have indeed added to your stature.”

How many more deaths have to result before allegedly smart people connect

the dots and acknowledge there probably are significant dangerous

consequences to the excessive distribution of “therapeutic,” psychotropic

drugs?

The old joke tells of a patient visiting a physician:

Patient (moving his arm): “Doctor it hurts when I go like this.”

Doctor: “Don’t go like that! That will be $50.”

Why is it that in wake of every tragic mass shooting, the cacophony erupts

over the tools used for the slaughter and not for the probable spark that

ignited the fire? Whenever some deeply disturbed person uses guns to mow

down innocent victims, a gaggle of draconian anti-gun bills gets dusted off

and rushed into law.

What causes murderers to reach for the guns? Why aren’t the right questions

getting asked?

For years I have increasingly come to believe that the excessive

dissemination of psychotropic drugs are a contributing factor (if not the

contributing factor) to the rash of school shootings.

According to a relatively recent report from the Journal of the American

Medical Association, the number of 2- to 4-year-old children in America

taking behavior-modifying drugs has skyrocketed in the last decade.

In February of last year I spoke with Dr. Ann Blake , director of the

International Coalition for Drug Awareness. Specializing in adverse

reactions to these " serotonergic " medications -- Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil,

Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, Fen-Phen, Redux -- has testified

before the FDA and congressional subcommittee members on Prozac. Ann has

been an expert witness in Prozac and similar court cases around the world,

she is the author of " Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? "

In the wake of compelling evidence to suggest a connection between mind

chemistry altering drugs and violence, a reasonable person might think that

“someone” is seeking to reduce or mitigate so significant a threat. They

would be wrong. Apparently it is better to demonize guns than offend drug

manufacturers.

a.. Feb. 2, 1996. Moses Lake, Wash. Fourteen-year-old Barry Loukaitis

opened fire in his algebra class killing two students and one teacher and

wounding one other.

b.. Feb. 19, 1997, Bethel, Alaska. Sixteen-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and

killed his school principal and one student and wounded two others.

c.. Oct. 1, 1997, Pearl, Miss. Two students were killed and seven wounded

by a 16-year-old who was also accused of killing his mother. He and several

friends thought to be in on the plot were said to be outcasts who worshipped

Satan.

d.. Dec. 1, 1997, West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by

a 14-year-old-boy as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High

School.

e.. Dec. 15, 1997, Stamps, Ark. Two students wounded. Colt Todd, 14, was

hiding in the woods when he shot the students as they stood in the parking

lot.

f.. March 24, 1998, boro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed,

10 others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false

fire alarm. , 13, and Golden, 11, shot at their

classmates and teachers from the woods.

g.. April 24, 1998, Edinboro, Pa. One teacher killed, two students wounded

at a dance at W. Middle School. A 14-year-old boy was charged.

h.. May 19, 1998, Fayetteville, Tenn. One student killed in the parking

lot at Lincoln County High School three days before he was to graduate. The

victim was dating the ex-girlfriend of his killer, 18-year-old honor student

.

i.. May 21, 1998, Springfield, Ore. Two students killed, 22 others wounded

in the cafeteria at Thurston High School by 15-year-old Kip Kinkel. Kinkel

had been arrested and released to his parents a day earlier after it was

discovered that he had a gun at school. His parents were later found dead at

home.

j.. June 15, 1998, Richmond, Va. One teacher and one guidance counselor

wounded by a 14-year-old boy in the hallway of a Richmond high school.

k.. April 20, 1999, Littleton, Colo. Fourteen students (including the

killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School

in the nation's deadliest school shooting. , 18, and Dylan

Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their

school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on

themselves.

l.. April 28, 1999, Taber, Alberta, Canada. One student killed, one

wounded at W. R. Myers High School in first fatal high school shooting in

Canada in 20 years. The suspect, a 14-year-old boy, had been unhappy at

Myers and dropped out in order to begin home schooling.

m.. May 20, 1999, Conyers, Ga. Six students injured at Heritage High

School by 15-year-old T. J. , who was reportedly depressed after

breaking up with his girlfriend.

n.. Nov. 19, 1999, Deming, N.M. One 7th-grader, Araceli Tena, fatally shot

at Deming Middle School by Victor Cordova Jr., age 13. The boy, a dual

citizen living in Mexico and commuting to the school, was struggling with

depression after the death of his mother. His victim was apparently targeted

at random.

o.. Dec. 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Okla. Four students wounded and one

severely bruised in the chaos as a 13-year-old boy opened fire with a 9mm

semiautomatic handgun at Fort Gibson Middle School.

p.. Feb. 29, 2000, Mount Township, Mich. One 6-year-old girl, Kayla

Rolland, fatally wounded at Buell Elementary School near Flint, Mich.

Assailant identified as a 6-year-old boy who lived in a crack house. A

19-year-old man was charged with involuntary manslaughter for allowing the

boy easy access to the .32-caliber handgun used in the shooting.

How many of those 15 incidents involved psychotropic drugs as well as guns?

Why isn’t Congress or the FDA asking questions or trying to connect the

dots?

Some readers/listeners think I am totally off-base. in Hollister,

Calif., wrote, “GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT. ...” In

the wake of one my recent rants against the potential evils of excessive

distribution of psychotropic drugs wrote, “I am a right-wing

conservative Republican, so don't think this is being written by a liberal.

”I am on Zoloft, which like Prozac, is a selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitor. I went on it after combating clinical depression for several

years. When I could no longer focus at work, I went to the doctor and he

prescribed Zoloft. It worked.

”You really sound like a raging ignoramus every time you discuss Prozac,

Ritalin or Zoloft, and you’re plainly do not know what you're talking about.

”SSRIs like Prozac DO NOT make you high, create a false sense of euphoria,

nor are they a ‘happy pill.’ ALL THEY DO IS MAKE YOU NORMAL. They banish

demons; they do not create false angels. ...

”Tell me Geoff, do you think that if a man with an infection takes

penicillin, and then dies, do you conclude that the penicillin killed him?

You could make a great case for this; I am sure you could accumulate many

anecdotal stories of people who died after taking penicillin. Or aspirin, or

Vitamin C for that matter. But PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND GETTING FIVE

IS POOR LOGIC.

”Yes, some crazies who have been on SSRIs have gone nuts, like the Columbine

kooks. That's because such crazies are already being treated by

psychiatrists, who prescribe these drugs in the HOPE that it will help. When

the drugs don't work, people like you make the wrong assumption that it was

the drug that caused the behavior, a false conclusion. It was only a FAILED

treatment, not the cause, in the same way that penicillin might fail if

given to someone with an advanced infection.

”GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT, and it does little to

help our movement.”

I am trying to get informed. I guess just doesn’t like facts I may find

that contradict his own beliefs. My concern is what if a medication intended

to help someone stay on an even keel does the opposite? Well, that is

exactly the argument being considered by the lawyer of software tester

McDermott, charged with killing seven of his co-workers recently in

Wakefield, Mass. An insanity defense reportedly will claim that Prozac and

other antidepressants Mr. McDermott was taking produced rare

violence-inducing side effects. Basically McDermott’s lawyers are arguing

the “medicine made him do it.”

Not a lot of criminal cases have used the Prozac defense at trial, and only

one has won. But the McDermott case, because of its high profile, could

become a test of Americans' willingness to pin blame on mood-altering

prescription drugs.

I’m not sure what McDermott's exact diagnosis is, or the number of

antidepressants he was taking. But one thing is certain: If his lawyer

argues that " prescription drugs made him do it, " the case will renew

concerns about the use of Prozac-type drugs in America.

Millions of people in this country use Prozac right now. It was introduced

in 1987 to treat everything from depression to gambling to nail biting.

Allegations have persisted for years that the drug can spark violent

reactions in some patients. Not surprisingly, the manufacturer, Eli Lilly

and Co. deny there is any credible evidence to support such accusations.

Experts do agree that using the Prozac defense is loaded with difficulty and

the odds of success may be slim to none.

What do you think?

Geoff Metcalf is a former talk-show host for TalkNetDaily.

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‘The dope made me do it’

Posted: January 8, 2001

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Geoff Metcalf

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Someone far more learned and wise than me once noted, “If I supply you a

thought you may remember it and you may not. But if I can make you think a

thought for yourself, I have indeed added to your stature.”

How many more deaths have to result before allegedly smart people connect

the dots and acknowledge there probably are significant dangerous

consequences to the excessive distribution of “therapeutic,” psychotropic

drugs?

The old joke tells of a patient visiting a physician:

Patient (moving his arm): “Doctor it hurts when I go like this.”

Doctor: “Don’t go like that! That will be $50.”

Why is it that in wake of every tragic mass shooting, the cacophony erupts

over the tools used for the slaughter and not for the probable spark that

ignited the fire? Whenever some deeply disturbed person uses guns to mow

down innocent victims, a gaggle of draconian anti-gun bills gets dusted off

and rushed into law.

What causes murderers to reach for the guns? Why aren’t the right questions

getting asked?

For years I have increasingly come to believe that the excessive

dissemination of psychotropic drugs are a contributing factor (if not the

contributing factor) to the rash of school shootings.

According to a relatively recent report from the Journal of the American

Medical Association, the number of 2- to 4-year-old children in America

taking behavior-modifying drugs has skyrocketed in the last decade.

In February of last year I spoke with Dr. Ann Blake , director of the

International Coalition for Drug Awareness. Specializing in adverse

reactions to these " serotonergic " medications -- Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil,

Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, Fen-Phen, Redux -- has testified

before the FDA and congressional subcommittee members on Prozac. Ann has

been an expert witness in Prozac and similar court cases around the world,

she is the author of " Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? "

In the wake of compelling evidence to suggest a connection between mind

chemistry altering drugs and violence, a reasonable person might think that

“someone” is seeking to reduce or mitigate so significant a threat. They

would be wrong. Apparently it is better to demonize guns than offend drug

manufacturers.

a.. Feb. 2, 1996. Moses Lake, Wash. Fourteen-year-old Barry Loukaitis

opened fire in his algebra class killing two students and one teacher and

wounding one other.

b.. Feb. 19, 1997, Bethel, Alaska. Sixteen-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and

killed his school principal and one student and wounded two others.

c.. Oct. 1, 1997, Pearl, Miss. Two students were killed and seven wounded

by a 16-year-old who was also accused of killing his mother. He and several

friends thought to be in on the plot were said to be outcasts who worshipped

Satan.

d.. Dec. 1, 1997, West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by

a 14-year-old-boy as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High

School.

e.. Dec. 15, 1997, Stamps, Ark. Two students wounded. Colt Todd, 14, was

hiding in the woods when he shot the students as they stood in the parking

lot.

f.. March 24, 1998, boro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed,

10 others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false

fire alarm. , 13, and Golden, 11, shot at their

classmates and teachers from the woods.

g.. April 24, 1998, Edinboro, Pa. One teacher killed, two students wounded

at a dance at W. Middle School. A 14-year-old boy was charged.

h.. May 19, 1998, Fayetteville, Tenn. One student killed in the parking

lot at Lincoln County High School three days before he was to graduate. The

victim was dating the ex-girlfriend of his killer, 18-year-old honor student

.

i.. May 21, 1998, Springfield, Ore. Two students killed, 22 others wounded

in the cafeteria at Thurston High School by 15-year-old Kip Kinkel. Kinkel

had been arrested and released to his parents a day earlier after it was

discovered that he had a gun at school. His parents were later found dead at

home.

j.. June 15, 1998, Richmond, Va. One teacher and one guidance counselor

wounded by a 14-year-old boy in the hallway of a Richmond high school.

k.. April 20, 1999, Littleton, Colo. Fourteen students (including the

killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School

in the nation's deadliest school shooting. , 18, and Dylan

Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their

school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on

themselves.

l.. April 28, 1999, Taber, Alberta, Canada. One student killed, one

wounded at W. R. Myers High School in first fatal high school shooting in

Canada in 20 years. The suspect, a 14-year-old boy, had been unhappy at

Myers and dropped out in order to begin home schooling.

m.. May 20, 1999, Conyers, Ga. Six students injured at Heritage High

School by 15-year-old T. J. , who was reportedly depressed after

breaking up with his girlfriend.

n.. Nov. 19, 1999, Deming, N.M. One 7th-grader, Araceli Tena, fatally shot

at Deming Middle School by Victor Cordova Jr., age 13. The boy, a dual

citizen living in Mexico and commuting to the school, was struggling with

depression after the death of his mother. His victim was apparently targeted

at random.

o.. Dec. 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Okla. Four students wounded and one

severely bruised in the chaos as a 13-year-old boy opened fire with a 9mm

semiautomatic handgun at Fort Gibson Middle School.

p.. Feb. 29, 2000, Mount Township, Mich. One 6-year-old girl, Kayla

Rolland, fatally wounded at Buell Elementary School near Flint, Mich.

Assailant identified as a 6-year-old boy who lived in a crack house. A

19-year-old man was charged with involuntary manslaughter for allowing the

boy easy access to the .32-caliber handgun used in the shooting.

How many of those 15 incidents involved psychotropic drugs as well as guns?

Why isn’t Congress or the FDA asking questions or trying to connect the

dots?

Some readers/listeners think I am totally off-base. in Hollister,

Calif., wrote, “GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT. ...” In

the wake of one my recent rants against the potential evils of excessive

distribution of psychotropic drugs wrote, “I am a right-wing

conservative Republican, so don't think this is being written by a liberal.

”I am on Zoloft, which like Prozac, is a selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitor. I went on it after combating clinical depression for several

years. When I could no longer focus at work, I went to the doctor and he

prescribed Zoloft. It worked.

”You really sound like a raging ignoramus every time you discuss Prozac,

Ritalin or Zoloft, and you’re plainly do not know what you're talking about.

”SSRIs like Prozac DO NOT make you high, create a false sense of euphoria,

nor are they a ‘happy pill.’ ALL THEY DO IS MAKE YOU NORMAL. They banish

demons; they do not create false angels. ...

”Tell me Geoff, do you think that if a man with an infection takes

penicillin, and then dies, do you conclude that the penicillin killed him?

You could make a great case for this; I am sure you could accumulate many

anecdotal stories of people who died after taking penicillin. Or aspirin, or

Vitamin C for that matter. But PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND GETTING FIVE

IS POOR LOGIC.

”Yes, some crazies who have been on SSRIs have gone nuts, like the Columbine

kooks. That's because such crazies are already being treated by

psychiatrists, who prescribe these drugs in the HOPE that it will help. When

the drugs don't work, people like you make the wrong assumption that it was

the drug that caused the behavior, a false conclusion. It was only a FAILED

treatment, not the cause, in the same way that penicillin might fail if

given to someone with an advanced infection.

”GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT, and it does little to

help our movement.”

I am trying to get informed. I guess just doesn’t like facts I may find

that contradict his own beliefs. My concern is what if a medication intended

to help someone stay on an even keel does the opposite? Well, that is

exactly the argument being considered by the lawyer of software tester

McDermott, charged with killing seven of his co-workers recently in

Wakefield, Mass. An insanity defense reportedly will claim that Prozac and

other antidepressants Mr. McDermott was taking produced rare

violence-inducing side effects. Basically McDermott’s lawyers are arguing

the “medicine made him do it.”

Not a lot of criminal cases have used the Prozac defense at trial, and only

one has won. But the McDermott case, because of its high profile, could

become a test of Americans' willingness to pin blame on mood-altering

prescription drugs.

I’m not sure what McDermott's exact diagnosis is, or the number of

antidepressants he was taking. But one thing is certain: If his lawyer

argues that " prescription drugs made him do it, " the case will renew

concerns about the use of Prozac-type drugs in America.

Millions of people in this country use Prozac right now. It was introduced

in 1987 to treat everything from depression to gambling to nail biting.

Allegations have persisted for years that the drug can spark violent

reactions in some patients. Not surprisingly, the manufacturer, Eli Lilly

and Co. deny there is any credible evidence to support such accusations.

Experts do agree that using the Prozac defense is loaded with difficulty and

the odds of success may be slim to none.

What do you think?

Geoff Metcalf is a former talk-show host for TalkNetDaily.

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‘The dope made me do it’

Posted: January 8, 2001

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Geoff Metcalf

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Someone far more learned and wise than me once noted, “If I supply you a

thought you may remember it and you may not. But if I can make you think a

thought for yourself, I have indeed added to your stature.”

How many more deaths have to result before allegedly smart people connect

the dots and acknowledge there probably are significant dangerous

consequences to the excessive distribution of “therapeutic,” psychotropic

drugs?

The old joke tells of a patient visiting a physician:

Patient (moving his arm): “Doctor it hurts when I go like this.”

Doctor: “Don’t go like that! That will be $50.”

Why is it that in wake of every tragic mass shooting, the cacophony erupts

over the tools used for the slaughter and not for the probable spark that

ignited the fire? Whenever some deeply disturbed person uses guns to mow

down innocent victims, a gaggle of draconian anti-gun bills gets dusted off

and rushed into law.

What causes murderers to reach for the guns? Why aren’t the right questions

getting asked?

For years I have increasingly come to believe that the excessive

dissemination of psychotropic drugs are a contributing factor (if not the

contributing factor) to the rash of school shootings.

According to a relatively recent report from the Journal of the American

Medical Association, the number of 2- to 4-year-old children in America

taking behavior-modifying drugs has skyrocketed in the last decade.

In February of last year I spoke with Dr. Ann Blake , director of the

International Coalition for Drug Awareness. Specializing in adverse

reactions to these " serotonergic " medications -- Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil,

Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, Fen-Phen, Redux -- has testified

before the FDA and congressional subcommittee members on Prozac. Ann has

been an expert witness in Prozac and similar court cases around the world,

she is the author of " Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? "

In the wake of compelling evidence to suggest a connection between mind

chemistry altering drugs and violence, a reasonable person might think that

“someone” is seeking to reduce or mitigate so significant a threat. They

would be wrong. Apparently it is better to demonize guns than offend drug

manufacturers.

a.. Feb. 2, 1996. Moses Lake, Wash. Fourteen-year-old Barry Loukaitis

opened fire in his algebra class killing two students and one teacher and

wounding one other.

b.. Feb. 19, 1997, Bethel, Alaska. Sixteen-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and

killed his school principal and one student and wounded two others.

c.. Oct. 1, 1997, Pearl, Miss. Two students were killed and seven wounded

by a 16-year-old who was also accused of killing his mother. He and several

friends thought to be in on the plot were said to be outcasts who worshipped

Satan.

d.. Dec. 1, 1997, West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by

a 14-year-old-boy as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High

School.

e.. Dec. 15, 1997, Stamps, Ark. Two students wounded. Colt Todd, 14, was

hiding in the woods when he shot the students as they stood in the parking

lot.

f.. March 24, 1998, boro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed,

10 others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false

fire alarm. , 13, and Golden, 11, shot at their

classmates and teachers from the woods.

g.. April 24, 1998, Edinboro, Pa. One teacher killed, two students wounded

at a dance at W. Middle School. A 14-year-old boy was charged.

h.. May 19, 1998, Fayetteville, Tenn. One student killed in the parking

lot at Lincoln County High School three days before he was to graduate. The

victim was dating the ex-girlfriend of his killer, 18-year-old honor student

.

i.. May 21, 1998, Springfield, Ore. Two students killed, 22 others wounded

in the cafeteria at Thurston High School by 15-year-old Kip Kinkel. Kinkel

had been arrested and released to his parents a day earlier after it was

discovered that he had a gun at school. His parents were later found dead at

home.

j.. June 15, 1998, Richmond, Va. One teacher and one guidance counselor

wounded by a 14-year-old boy in the hallway of a Richmond high school.

k.. April 20, 1999, Littleton, Colo. Fourteen students (including the

killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School

in the nation's deadliest school shooting. , 18, and Dylan

Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their

school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on

themselves.

l.. April 28, 1999, Taber, Alberta, Canada. One student killed, one

wounded at W. R. Myers High School in first fatal high school shooting in

Canada in 20 years. The suspect, a 14-year-old boy, had been unhappy at

Myers and dropped out in order to begin home schooling.

m.. May 20, 1999, Conyers, Ga. Six students injured at Heritage High

School by 15-year-old T. J. , who was reportedly depressed after

breaking up with his girlfriend.

n.. Nov. 19, 1999, Deming, N.M. One 7th-grader, Araceli Tena, fatally shot

at Deming Middle School by Victor Cordova Jr., age 13. The boy, a dual

citizen living in Mexico and commuting to the school, was struggling with

depression after the death of his mother. His victim was apparently targeted

at random.

o.. Dec. 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Okla. Four students wounded and one

severely bruised in the chaos as a 13-year-old boy opened fire with a 9mm

semiautomatic handgun at Fort Gibson Middle School.

p.. Feb. 29, 2000, Mount Township, Mich. One 6-year-old girl, Kayla

Rolland, fatally wounded at Buell Elementary School near Flint, Mich.

Assailant identified as a 6-year-old boy who lived in a crack house. A

19-year-old man was charged with involuntary manslaughter for allowing the

boy easy access to the .32-caliber handgun used in the shooting.

How many of those 15 incidents involved psychotropic drugs as well as guns?

Why isn’t Congress or the FDA asking questions or trying to connect the

dots?

Some readers/listeners think I am totally off-base. in Hollister,

Calif., wrote, “GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT. ...” In

the wake of one my recent rants against the potential evils of excessive

distribution of psychotropic drugs wrote, “I am a right-wing

conservative Republican, so don't think this is being written by a liberal.

”I am on Zoloft, which like Prozac, is a selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitor. I went on it after combating clinical depression for several

years. When I could no longer focus at work, I went to the doctor and he

prescribed Zoloft. It worked.

”You really sound like a raging ignoramus every time you discuss Prozac,

Ritalin or Zoloft, and you’re plainly do not know what you're talking about.

”SSRIs like Prozac DO NOT make you high, create a false sense of euphoria,

nor are they a ‘happy pill.’ ALL THEY DO IS MAKE YOU NORMAL. They banish

demons; they do not create false angels. ...

”Tell me Geoff, do you think that if a man with an infection takes

penicillin, and then dies, do you conclude that the penicillin killed him?

You could make a great case for this; I am sure you could accumulate many

anecdotal stories of people who died after taking penicillin. Or aspirin, or

Vitamin C for that matter. But PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND GETTING FIVE

IS POOR LOGIC.

”Yes, some crazies who have been on SSRIs have gone nuts, like the Columbine

kooks. That's because such crazies are already being treated by

psychiatrists, who prescribe these drugs in the HOPE that it will help. When

the drugs don't work, people like you make the wrong assumption that it was

the drug that caused the behavior, a false conclusion. It was only a FAILED

treatment, not the cause, in the same way that penicillin might fail if

given to someone with an advanced infection.

”GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT, and it does little to

help our movement.”

I am trying to get informed. I guess just doesn’t like facts I may find

that contradict his own beliefs. My concern is what if a medication intended

to help someone stay on an even keel does the opposite? Well, that is

exactly the argument being considered by the lawyer of software tester

McDermott, charged with killing seven of his co-workers recently in

Wakefield, Mass. An insanity defense reportedly will claim that Prozac and

other antidepressants Mr. McDermott was taking produced rare

violence-inducing side effects. Basically McDermott’s lawyers are arguing

the “medicine made him do it.”

Not a lot of criminal cases have used the Prozac defense at trial, and only

one has won. But the McDermott case, because of its high profile, could

become a test of Americans' willingness to pin blame on mood-altering

prescription drugs.

I’m not sure what McDermott's exact diagnosis is, or the number of

antidepressants he was taking. But one thing is certain: If his lawyer

argues that " prescription drugs made him do it, " the case will renew

concerns about the use of Prozac-type drugs in America.

Millions of people in this country use Prozac right now. It was introduced

in 1987 to treat everything from depression to gambling to nail biting.

Allegations have persisted for years that the drug can spark violent

reactions in some patients. Not surprisingly, the manufacturer, Eli Lilly

and Co. deny there is any credible evidence to support such accusations.

Experts do agree that using the Prozac defense is loaded with difficulty and

the odds of success may be slim to none.

What do you think?

Geoff Metcalf is a former talk-show host for TalkNetDaily.

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‘The dope made me do it’

Posted: January 8, 2001

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Geoff Metcalf

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Someone far more learned and wise than me once noted, “If I supply you a

thought you may remember it and you may not. But if I can make you think a

thought for yourself, I have indeed added to your stature.”

How many more deaths have to result before allegedly smart people connect

the dots and acknowledge there probably are significant dangerous

consequences to the excessive distribution of “therapeutic,” psychotropic

drugs?

The old joke tells of a patient visiting a physician:

Patient (moving his arm): “Doctor it hurts when I go like this.”

Doctor: “Don’t go like that! That will be $50.”

Why is it that in wake of every tragic mass shooting, the cacophony erupts

over the tools used for the slaughter and not for the probable spark that

ignited the fire? Whenever some deeply disturbed person uses guns to mow

down innocent victims, a gaggle of draconian anti-gun bills gets dusted off

and rushed into law.

What causes murderers to reach for the guns? Why aren’t the right questions

getting asked?

For years I have increasingly come to believe that the excessive

dissemination of psychotropic drugs are a contributing factor (if not the

contributing factor) to the rash of school shootings.

According to a relatively recent report from the Journal of the American

Medical Association, the number of 2- to 4-year-old children in America

taking behavior-modifying drugs has skyrocketed in the last decade.

In February of last year I spoke with Dr. Ann Blake , director of the

International Coalition for Drug Awareness. Specializing in adverse

reactions to these " serotonergic " medications -- Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil,

Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, Fen-Phen, Redux -- has testified

before the FDA and congressional subcommittee members on Prozac. Ann has

been an expert witness in Prozac and similar court cases around the world,

she is the author of " Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? "

In the wake of compelling evidence to suggest a connection between mind

chemistry altering drugs and violence, a reasonable person might think that

“someone” is seeking to reduce or mitigate so significant a threat. They

would be wrong. Apparently it is better to demonize guns than offend drug

manufacturers.

a.. Feb. 2, 1996. Moses Lake, Wash. Fourteen-year-old Barry Loukaitis

opened fire in his algebra class killing two students and one teacher and

wounding one other.

b.. Feb. 19, 1997, Bethel, Alaska. Sixteen-year-old Evan Ramsey shot and

killed his school principal and one student and wounded two others.

c.. Oct. 1, 1997, Pearl, Miss. Two students were killed and seven wounded

by a 16-year-old who was also accused of killing his mother. He and several

friends thought to be in on the plot were said to be outcasts who worshipped

Satan.

d.. Dec. 1, 1997, West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by

a 14-year-old-boy as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High

School.

e.. Dec. 15, 1997, Stamps, Ark. Two students wounded. Colt Todd, 14, was

hiding in the woods when he shot the students as they stood in the parking

lot.

f.. March 24, 1998, boro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed,

10 others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false

fire alarm. , 13, and Golden, 11, shot at their

classmates and teachers from the woods.

g.. April 24, 1998, Edinboro, Pa. One teacher killed, two students wounded

at a dance at W. Middle School. A 14-year-old boy was charged.

h.. May 19, 1998, Fayetteville, Tenn. One student killed in the parking

lot at Lincoln County High School three days before he was to graduate. The

victim was dating the ex-girlfriend of his killer, 18-year-old honor student

.

i.. May 21, 1998, Springfield, Ore. Two students killed, 22 others wounded

in the cafeteria at Thurston High School by 15-year-old Kip Kinkel. Kinkel

had been arrested and released to his parents a day earlier after it was

discovered that he had a gun at school. His parents were later found dead at

home.

j.. June 15, 1998, Richmond, Va. One teacher and one guidance counselor

wounded by a 14-year-old boy in the hallway of a Richmond high school.

k.. April 20, 1999, Littleton, Colo. Fourteen students (including the

killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School

in the nation's deadliest school shooting. , 18, and Dylan

Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their

school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on

themselves.

l.. April 28, 1999, Taber, Alberta, Canada. One student killed, one

wounded at W. R. Myers High School in first fatal high school shooting in

Canada in 20 years. The suspect, a 14-year-old boy, had been unhappy at

Myers and dropped out in order to begin home schooling.

m.. May 20, 1999, Conyers, Ga. Six students injured at Heritage High

School by 15-year-old T. J. , who was reportedly depressed after

breaking up with his girlfriend.

n.. Nov. 19, 1999, Deming, N.M. One 7th-grader, Araceli Tena, fatally shot

at Deming Middle School by Victor Cordova Jr., age 13. The boy, a dual

citizen living in Mexico and commuting to the school, was struggling with

depression after the death of his mother. His victim was apparently targeted

at random.

o.. Dec. 6, 1999, Fort Gibson, Okla. Four students wounded and one

severely bruised in the chaos as a 13-year-old boy opened fire with a 9mm

semiautomatic handgun at Fort Gibson Middle School.

p.. Feb. 29, 2000, Mount Township, Mich. One 6-year-old girl, Kayla

Rolland, fatally wounded at Buell Elementary School near Flint, Mich.

Assailant identified as a 6-year-old boy who lived in a crack house. A

19-year-old man was charged with involuntary manslaughter for allowing the

boy easy access to the .32-caliber handgun used in the shooting.

How many of those 15 incidents involved psychotropic drugs as well as guns?

Why isn’t Congress or the FDA asking questions or trying to connect the

dots?

Some readers/listeners think I am totally off-base. in Hollister,

Calif., wrote, “GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT. ...” In

the wake of one my recent rants against the potential evils of excessive

distribution of psychotropic drugs wrote, “I am a right-wing

conservative Republican, so don't think this is being written by a liberal.

”I am on Zoloft, which like Prozac, is a selective serotonin reuptake

inhibitor. I went on it after combating clinical depression for several

years. When I could no longer focus at work, I went to the doctor and he

prescribed Zoloft. It worked.

”You really sound like a raging ignoramus every time you discuss Prozac,

Ritalin or Zoloft, and you’re plainly do not know what you're talking about.

”SSRIs like Prozac DO NOT make you high, create a false sense of euphoria,

nor are they a ‘happy pill.’ ALL THEY DO IS MAKE YOU NORMAL. They banish

demons; they do not create false angels. ...

”Tell me Geoff, do you think that if a man with an infection takes

penicillin, and then dies, do you conclude that the penicillin killed him?

You could make a great case for this; I am sure you could accumulate many

anecdotal stories of people who died after taking penicillin. Or aspirin, or

Vitamin C for that matter. But PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND GETTING FIVE

IS POOR LOGIC.

”Yes, some crazies who have been on SSRIs have gone nuts, like the Columbine

kooks. That's because such crazies are already being treated by

psychiatrists, who prescribe these drugs in the HOPE that it will help. When

the drugs don't work, people like you make the wrong assumption that it was

the drug that caused the behavior, a false conclusion. It was only a FAILED

treatment, not the cause, in the same way that penicillin might fail if

given to someone with an advanced infection.

”GET INFORMED, GEOFF. YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE DOLT, and it does little to

help our movement.”

I am trying to get informed. I guess just doesn’t like facts I may find

that contradict his own beliefs. My concern is what if a medication intended

to help someone stay on an even keel does the opposite? Well, that is

exactly the argument being considered by the lawyer of software tester

McDermott, charged with killing seven of his co-workers recently in

Wakefield, Mass. An insanity defense reportedly will claim that Prozac and

other antidepressants Mr. McDermott was taking produced rare

violence-inducing side effects. Basically McDermott’s lawyers are arguing

the “medicine made him do it.”

Not a lot of criminal cases have used the Prozac defense at trial, and only

one has won. But the McDermott case, because of its high profile, could

become a test of Americans' willingness to pin blame on mood-altering

prescription drugs.

I’m not sure what McDermott's exact diagnosis is, or the number of

antidepressants he was taking. But one thing is certain: If his lawyer

argues that " prescription drugs made him do it, " the case will renew

concerns about the use of Prozac-type drugs in America.

Millions of people in this country use Prozac right now. It was introduced

in 1987 to treat everything from depression to gambling to nail biting.

Allegations have persisted for years that the drug can spark violent

reactions in some patients. Not surprisingly, the manufacturer, Eli Lilly

and Co. deny there is any credible evidence to support such accusations.

Experts do agree that using the Prozac defense is loaded with difficulty and

the odds of success may be slim to none.

What do you think?

Geoff Metcalf is a former talk-show host for TalkNetDaily.

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