Re: Re: Anyone heard of these drugs?

[Guest guest]

They sound just 'lovely'.....

I figured as much. I wouldn't trust anything these days that comes from

a doctor. It's a shame it's gotten like that.

I just got off the telephone talking to a friend of mine that I might

not see before Christmas. I wanted to wish her a merry Christmas.

While I was on the phone with her, she tells me that the 34 year old son

of a mutual friend of ours just died. I'm still in shock. He had a

cold that wouldn't go away and he kept getting weaker and weaker and

weaker. They put him in the hospital and still couldn't figure out what

was wrong and then, suddenly, he just died, right while his mother was

with him. They have found out that he had some kind of virus that was

causing this and the cause of death was that the virus ate away the

lining of his heart. They had no idea he was dying. It just happened.

I'm not a doctor, but I find it hard to believe that this could have

gone on for weeks and they never knew what it was or even that it was

serious.

Thanks for the drug information. I'll know to stay away from them and

this doctor, too, which is something I already knew.

Merrie

loring_lisa wrote:

>

>

>> Someone told my father a few days ago that there were some drugs out there

for OCD that didn't harm you to take them (like I'm ever going to believe

that!).

>> 1. Xanax

>> 2. Axrain or Atrain or something like that.

>> Anyone familiar with what these drugs may be?

>> Merrie

>>

>>

> Merrie, Xanax is a class of psychotropics called benzodiazepenes,

> similiar to Valium, Clonopin, Midazolam(an anesthetic sedative)

> I think you may also be referring to Ativan? Its called Lorezepam,

> also a benzodiazepine, alters mentation, can make people very

> confused, especially the elderly. Both are prescribed quite freely, to

> all ages and for a variety of " disorders " , but both are potentially

> dangerous and addictive.

>

[Guest guest]

They sound just 'lovely'.....

I figured as much. I wouldn't trust anything these days that comes from

a doctor. It's a shame it's gotten like that.

I just got off the telephone talking to a friend of mine that I might

not see before Christmas. I wanted to wish her a merry Christmas.

While I was on the phone with her, she tells me that the 34 year old son

of a mutual friend of ours just died. I'm still in shock. He had a

cold that wouldn't go away and he kept getting weaker and weaker and

weaker. They put him in the hospital and still couldn't figure out what

was wrong and then, suddenly, he just died, right while his mother was

with him. They have found out that he had some kind of virus that was

causing this and the cause of death was that the virus ate away the

lining of his heart. They had no idea he was dying. It just happened.

I'm not a doctor, but I find it hard to believe that this could have

gone on for weeks and they never knew what it was or even that it was

serious.

Thanks for the drug information. I'll know to stay away from them and

this doctor, too, which is something I already knew.

Merrie

loring_lisa wrote:

>

>

>> Someone told my father a few days ago that there were some drugs out there

for OCD that didn't harm you to take them (like I'm ever going to believe

that!).

>> 1. Xanax

>> 2. Axrain or Atrain or something like that.

>> Anyone familiar with what these drugs may be?

>> Merrie

>>

>>

> Merrie, Xanax is a class of psychotropics called benzodiazepenes,

> similiar to Valium, Clonopin, Midazolam(an anesthetic sedative)

> I think you may also be referring to Ativan? Its called Lorezepam,

> also a benzodiazepine, alters mentation, can make people very

> confused, especially the elderly. Both are prescribed quite freely, to

> all ages and for a variety of " disorders " , but both are potentially

> dangerous and addictive.

>

[Guest guest]

They sound just 'lovely'.....

I figured as much. I wouldn't trust anything these days that comes from

a doctor. It's a shame it's gotten like that.

I just got off the telephone talking to a friend of mine that I might

not see before Christmas. I wanted to wish her a merry Christmas.

While I was on the phone with her, she tells me that the 34 year old son

of a mutual friend of ours just died. I'm still in shock. He had a

cold that wouldn't go away and he kept getting weaker and weaker and

weaker. They put him in the hospital and still couldn't figure out what

was wrong and then, suddenly, he just died, right while his mother was

with him. They have found out that he had some kind of virus that was

causing this and the cause of death was that the virus ate away the

lining of his heart. They had no idea he was dying. It just happened.

I'm not a doctor, but I find it hard to believe that this could have

gone on for weeks and they never knew what it was or even that it was

serious.

Thanks for the drug information. I'll know to stay away from them and

this doctor, too, which is something I already knew.

Merrie

loring_lisa wrote:

>

>

>> Someone told my father a few days ago that there were some drugs out there

for OCD that didn't harm you to take them (like I'm ever going to believe

that!).

>> 1. Xanax

>> 2. Axrain or Atrain or something like that.

>> Anyone familiar with what these drugs may be?

>> Merrie

>>

>>

> Merrie, Xanax is a class of psychotropics called benzodiazepenes,

> similiar to Valium, Clonopin, Midazolam(an anesthetic sedative)

> I think you may also be referring to Ativan? Its called Lorezepam,

> also a benzodiazepine, alters mentation, can make people very

> confused, especially the elderly. Both are prescribed quite freely, to

> all ages and for a variety of " disorders " , but both are potentially

> dangerous and addictive.

>

[Guest guest]

They sound just 'lovely'.....

I figured as much. I wouldn't trust anything these days that comes from

a doctor. It's a shame it's gotten like that.

I just got off the telephone talking to a friend of mine that I might

not see before Christmas. I wanted to wish her a merry Christmas.

While I was on the phone with her, she tells me that the 34 year old son

of a mutual friend of ours just died. I'm still in shock. He had a

cold that wouldn't go away and he kept getting weaker and weaker and

weaker. They put him in the hospital and still couldn't figure out what

was wrong and then, suddenly, he just died, right while his mother was

with him. They have found out that he had some kind of virus that was

causing this and the cause of death was that the virus ate away the

lining of his heart. They had no idea he was dying. It just happened.

I'm not a doctor, but I find it hard to believe that this could have

gone on for weeks and they never knew what it was or even that it was

serious.

Thanks for the drug information. I'll know to stay away from them and

this doctor, too, which is something I already knew.

Merrie

loring_lisa wrote:

>

>

>> Someone told my father a few days ago that there were some drugs out there

for OCD that didn't harm you to take them (like I'm ever going to believe

that!).

>> 1. Xanax

>> 2. Axrain or Atrain or something like that.

>> Anyone familiar with what these drugs may be?

>> Merrie

>>

>>

> Merrie, Xanax is a class of psychotropics called benzodiazepenes,

> similiar to Valium, Clonopin, Midazolam(an anesthetic sedative)

> I think you may also be referring to Ativan? Its called Lorezepam,

> also a benzodiazepine, alters mentation, can make people very

> confused, especially the elderly. Both are prescribed quite freely, to

> all ages and for a variety of " disorders " , but both are potentially

> dangerous and addictive.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the imput.

The words of this doctor to my father were, " Here are two drugs your

grandson can take that won't hurt him. " I don't know if he was

acknowledging that SSRI's are dangerous or not, but he presented these

two drugs as something my son could take without any concern. Of course

I'd have to either see him or someone else to get a prescription for them.

Many, many years ago I had a bad back and a doctor prescribed valium for

me. I didn't know what it was and took it. I got very unbalanced so

that I had trouble staying on my feet and not falling down. I started

to feel suicidal and decided I'd better look this drug up. I saw that

those two things were side effects of the drug. I had only been taking

it for maybe a week, I think. I couldn't believe what I was reading and

immediately ceased the drug. I remember feeling badly for a while, like

I wanted to take the drug again. I read it was highly addictive, so I

resisted the urge. I got pass it. Now, as I read about people coming

off of those drugs, I think about this experience I had. Perhaps I

needed to come off the valium slower, but I didn't know. This happened

back in the early 70's and I really didn't know much then about these

drugs.

I've never experienced Xanax or Ativan and until today when I read the

responses here to me about those two drugs, I knew nothing about them.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Yeah, Xanax was hellish coming off(worse than SSRIs for me) but Ativan

> has been helpful.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the imput.

The words of this doctor to my father were, " Here are two drugs your

grandson can take that won't hurt him. " I don't know if he was

acknowledging that SSRI's are dangerous or not, but he presented these

two drugs as something my son could take without any concern. Of course

I'd have to either see him or someone else to get a prescription for them.

Many, many years ago I had a bad back and a doctor prescribed valium for

me. I didn't know what it was and took it. I got very unbalanced so

that I had trouble staying on my feet and not falling down. I started

to feel suicidal and decided I'd better look this drug up. I saw that

those two things were side effects of the drug. I had only been taking

it for maybe a week, I think. I couldn't believe what I was reading and

immediately ceased the drug. I remember feeling badly for a while, like

I wanted to take the drug again. I read it was highly addictive, so I

resisted the urge. I got pass it. Now, as I read about people coming

off of those drugs, I think about this experience I had. Perhaps I

needed to come off the valium slower, but I didn't know. This happened

back in the early 70's and I really didn't know much then about these

drugs.

I've never experienced Xanax or Ativan and until today when I read the

responses here to me about those two drugs, I knew nothing about them.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Yeah, Xanax was hellish coming off(worse than SSRIs for me) but Ativan

> has been helpful.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the imput.

The words of this doctor to my father were, " Here are two drugs your

grandson can take that won't hurt him. " I don't know if he was

acknowledging that SSRI's are dangerous or not, but he presented these

two drugs as something my son could take without any concern. Of course

I'd have to either see him or someone else to get a prescription for them.

Many, many years ago I had a bad back and a doctor prescribed valium for

me. I didn't know what it was and took it. I got very unbalanced so

that I had trouble staying on my feet and not falling down. I started

to feel suicidal and decided I'd better look this drug up. I saw that

those two things were side effects of the drug. I had only been taking

it for maybe a week, I think. I couldn't believe what I was reading and

immediately ceased the drug. I remember feeling badly for a while, like

I wanted to take the drug again. I read it was highly addictive, so I

resisted the urge. I got pass it. Now, as I read about people coming

off of those drugs, I think about this experience I had. Perhaps I

needed to come off the valium slower, but I didn't know. This happened

back in the early 70's and I really didn't know much then about these

drugs.

I've never experienced Xanax or Ativan and until today when I read the

responses here to me about those two drugs, I knew nothing about them.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Yeah, Xanax was hellish coming off(worse than SSRIs for me) but Ativan

> has been helpful.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the imput.

The words of this doctor to my father were, " Here are two drugs your

grandson can take that won't hurt him. " I don't know if he was

acknowledging that SSRI's are dangerous or not, but he presented these

two drugs as something my son could take without any concern. Of course

I'd have to either see him or someone else to get a prescription for them.

Many, many years ago I had a bad back and a doctor prescribed valium for

me. I didn't know what it was and took it. I got very unbalanced so

that I had trouble staying on my feet and not falling down. I started

to feel suicidal and decided I'd better look this drug up. I saw that

those two things were side effects of the drug. I had only been taking

it for maybe a week, I think. I couldn't believe what I was reading and

immediately ceased the drug. I remember feeling badly for a while, like

I wanted to take the drug again. I read it was highly addictive, so I

resisted the urge. I got pass it. Now, as I read about people coming

off of those drugs, I think about this experience I had. Perhaps I

needed to come off the valium slower, but I didn't know. This happened

back in the early 70's and I really didn't know much then about these

drugs.

I've never experienced Xanax or Ativan and until today when I read the

responses here to me about those two drugs, I knew nothing about them.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Yeah, Xanax was hellish coming off(worse than SSRIs for me) but Ativan

> has been helpful.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Watch out- Ativan is supposed to be very addictive! There are stories about

people who take it for years and years...

On 12/18/06, bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never

> for longer than say 1 month.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Watch out- Ativan is supposed to be very addictive! There are stories about

people who take it for years and years...

On 12/18/06, bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never

> for longer than say 1 month.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Watch out- Ativan is supposed to be very addictive! There are stories about

people who take it for years and years...

On 12/18/06, bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never

> for longer than say 1 month.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Watch out- Ativan is supposed to be very addictive! There are stories about

people who take it for years and years...

On 12/18/06, bowriver011 <bowriver011@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never

> for longer than say 1 month.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's very helpful to know these things. I appreciate your telling me.

I'm keeping these things in the back of my mind in case I ever need to

have the information.

Thanks so much.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never for

longer than say 1 month.

>

[Guest guest]

It's very helpful to know these things. I appreciate your telling me.

I'm keeping these things in the back of my mind in case I ever need to

have the information.

Thanks so much.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never for

longer than say 1 month.

>

[Guest guest]

It's very helpful to know these things. I appreciate your telling me.

I'm keeping these things in the back of my mind in case I ever need to

have the information.

Thanks so much.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never for

longer than say 1 month.

>

[Guest guest]

It's very helpful to know these things. I appreciate your telling me.

I'm keeping these things in the back of my mind in case I ever need to

have the information.

Thanks so much.

Merrie

bowriver011 wrote:

> Of course this is just my experience but Xanax produced major

> disinhibition; meaning that I found myself doing dangerous things

> without any fear PLUS I can't emphasize enough that coming off Xanax

> was hellish ie. made me suicidal.

>

> BUT, for some reason I have had no problem whatsoever with Ativan. It

> has helped me over panic attacks but I never took a lot of it and never for

longer than say 1 month.

>