Re: Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video

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,

Your a bigot.

Jim

On 9/17/2010 2:56 AM, jeremy9282 wrote:

Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama

video

http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg

Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of

Scientology resulted in an explosive confrontation with church

officials. This time, in a Panorama Special, one of those

officials has turned whistleblower to help him reveal the dark

secrets of the church, which boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom

Cruise and Travolta amongst its devotees.

[Guest guest]

,

Your a bigot.

Jim

On 9/17/2010 2:56 AM, jeremy9282 wrote:

Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama

video

http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg

Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of

Scientology resulted in an explosive confrontation with church

officials. This time, in a Panorama Special, one of those

officials has turned whistleblower to help him reveal the dark

secrets of the church, which boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom

Cruise and Travolta amongst its devotees.

[Guest guest]

,

Your a bigot.

Jim

On 9/17/2010 2:56 AM, jeremy9282 wrote:

Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama

video

http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg

Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of

Scientology resulted in an explosive confrontation with church

officials. This time, in a Panorama Special, one of those

officials has turned whistleblower to help him reveal the dark

secrets of the church, which boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom

Cruise and Travolta amongst its devotees.

[Guest guest]

,

Your a bigot.

Jim

On 9/17/2010 2:56 AM, jeremy9282 wrote:

Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama

video

http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg

Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of

Scientology resulted in an explosive confrontation with church

officials. This time, in a Panorama Special, one of those

officials has turned whistleblower to help him reveal the dark

secrets of the church, which boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom

Cruise and Travolta amongst its devotees.

[Guest guest]

Jim

As a result of decades of civil & religious strife my country (quite rightly) has now probably the worlds strongest laws to prevent such "hate crimes" recurring. Our peace process has been jointly praised, no later than yesterday, by Queen & the Pope whilst on the steps of Holyrood palace. Political progress here has been held up as an exemplar right round the world.

Since your organisation is not recognised as a Church in either United Kingdom nor in Ireland ( SSRI medications/message/35815 ) therefore with all due respect it is not possible for me to be considered a bigot within context of this discussion & the region where I live.

If you are in anyway unhappy with the BBC's planned programme "Secrets of Scientology" then the place to take it up is with Sweeney at the BBC. Please do let us know how you get on.

Whilst mentioning BBC Panorama I'm much minded of the hatchet job that Jofre did on just one antidepressant, Seroxat, whilst by her own admission choosing to ignore similar faults in all the other brands.

( http://coventryuniversity.podbean.com/2007/11/01/one-woman-a-multinational-and-a-victory-shelley-jofre-panorama/ )

I note that neither you nor your organisation has ever sought to criticise BBC Panorama over Seroxat, rather it is the case that you exploit it.

If Panorama does a similar hatchet job on Scientology you can take comfort that this once flagship BBC programme is now regarded suspect by many of it's viewers.

Still without Jofre in this one,( 28th Sep BBC1), the programmes journalistic integrity maybe restored somewhat .............but don't hold your breath.

Religious freedom still includes the right to protest Jim

> >> >> > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-of-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> >> >> >> > Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of Scientology > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with church officials. This > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those officials has turned > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark secrets of the church, which > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and Travolta amongst its > > devotees.> >> >> >> >>

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Jim

As a result of decades of civil & religious strife my country (quite rightly) has now probably the worlds strongest laws to prevent such "hate crimes" recurring. Our peace process has been jointly praised, no later than yesterday, by Queen & the Pope whilst on the steps of Holyrood palace. Political progress here has been held up as an exemplar right round the world.

Since your organisation is not recognised as a Church in either United Kingdom nor in Ireland ( SSRI medications/message/35815 ) therefore with all due respect it is not possible for me to be considered a bigot within context of this discussion & the region where I live.

If you are in anyway unhappy with the BBC's planned programme "Secrets of Scientology" then the place to take it up is with Sweeney at the BBC. Please do let us know how you get on.

Whilst mentioning BBC Panorama I'm much minded of the hatchet job that Jofre did on just one antidepressant, Seroxat, whilst by her own admission choosing to ignore similar faults in all the other brands.

( http://coventryuniversity.podbean.com/2007/11/01/one-woman-a-multinational-and-a-victory-shelley-jofre-panorama/ )

I note that neither you nor your organisation has ever sought to criticise BBC Panorama over Seroxat, rather it is the case that you exploit it.

If Panorama does a similar hatchet job on Scientology you can take comfort that this once flagship BBC programme is now regarded suspect by many of it's viewers.

Still without Jofre in this one,( 28th Sep BBC1), the programmes journalistic integrity maybe restored somewhat .............but don't hold your breath.

Religious freedom still includes the right to protest Jim

> >> >> > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-of-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> >> >> >> > Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of Scientology > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with church officials. This > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those officials has turned > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark secrets of the church, which > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and Travolta amongst its > > devotees.> >> >> >> >>

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Jim

As a result of decades of civil & religious strife my country (quite rightly) has now probably the worlds strongest laws to prevent such "hate crimes" recurring. Our peace process has been jointly praised, no later than yesterday, by Queen & the Pope whilst on the steps of Holyrood palace. Political progress here has been held up as an exemplar right round the world.

Since your organisation is not recognised as a Church in either United Kingdom nor in Ireland ( SSRI medications/message/35815 ) therefore with all due respect it is not possible for me to be considered a bigot within context of this discussion & the region where I live.

If you are in anyway unhappy with the BBC's planned programme "Secrets of Scientology" then the place to take it up is with Sweeney at the BBC. Please do let us know how you get on.

Whilst mentioning BBC Panorama I'm much minded of the hatchet job that Jofre did on just one antidepressant, Seroxat, whilst by her own admission choosing to ignore similar faults in all the other brands.

( http://coventryuniversity.podbean.com/2007/11/01/one-woman-a-multinational-and-a-victory-shelley-jofre-panorama/ )

I note that neither you nor your organisation has ever sought to criticise BBC Panorama over Seroxat, rather it is the case that you exploit it.

If Panorama does a similar hatchet job on Scientology you can take comfort that this once flagship BBC programme is now regarded suspect by many of it's viewers.

Still without Jofre in this one,( 28th Sep BBC1), the programmes journalistic integrity maybe restored somewhat .............but don't hold your breath.

Religious freedom still includes the right to protest Jim

> >> >> > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-of-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> >> >> >> > Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of Scientology > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with church officials. This > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those officials has turned > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark secrets of the church, which > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and Travolta amongst its > > devotees.> >> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Jim

As a result of decades of civil & religious strife my country (quite rightly) has now probably the worlds strongest laws to prevent such "hate crimes" recurring. Our peace process has been jointly praised, no later than yesterday, by Queen & the Pope whilst on the steps of Holyrood palace. Political progress here has been held up as an exemplar right round the world.

Since your organisation is not recognised as a Church in either United Kingdom nor in Ireland ( SSRI medications/message/35815 ) therefore with all due respect it is not possible for me to be considered a bigot within context of this discussion & the region where I live.

If you are in anyway unhappy with the BBC's planned programme "Secrets of Scientology" then the place to take it up is with Sweeney at the BBC. Please do let us know how you get on.

Whilst mentioning BBC Panorama I'm much minded of the hatchet job that Jofre did on just one antidepressant, Seroxat, whilst by her own admission choosing to ignore similar faults in all the other brands.

( http://coventryuniversity.podbean.com/2007/11/01/one-woman-a-multinational-and-a-victory-shelley-jofre-panorama/ )

I note that neither you nor your organisation has ever sought to criticise BBC Panorama over Seroxat, rather it is the case that you exploit it.

If Panorama does a similar hatchet job on Scientology you can take comfort that this once flagship BBC programme is now regarded suspect by many of it's viewers.

Still without Jofre in this one,( 28th Sep BBC1), the programmes journalistic integrity maybe restored somewhat .............but don't hold your breath.

Religious freedom still includes the right to protest Jim

> >> >> > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-of-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> >> >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mhsn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> >> >> >> > Sweeney's last investigation into the Church of Scientology > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with church officials. This > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those officials has turned > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark secrets of the church, which > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and Travolta amongst its > > devotees.> >> >> >> >>

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Hi Joke

It is not me, nor' any of the other activists that are NOT Scientologists that have the credibility problems in the fight against psychiatric treatment.

So instead of trying to deflect attention away from the subject of the thread, try instead and establish your own credibility & that of your fellow travellers!

You know Joke if a pharma co or a Doctor failed to declare conflicts of interest you would rightly out them .........so is google wrong to out you as a Scientologist?

Meet Scientologists On-line

Joke Jolivette · Jolivette · Didier Joly · Cheryl Jonas · Reto Jonasch · E. Jondle · Barbara · · Brent · Carie ...home.scientology.org/all/JaJz.htm - Cached - Similar

> > >> > >> > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > >> > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > >> > >> > >> > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> Church of Scientology > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> church officials. This > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> officials has turned > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> secrets of the church, which > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and > Travolta amongst its > > > devotees.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

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Hi Joke

It is not me, nor' any of the other activists that are NOT Scientologists that have the credibility problems in the fight against psychiatric treatment.

So instead of trying to deflect attention away from the subject of the thread, try instead and establish your own credibility & that of your fellow travellers!

You know Joke if a pharma co or a Doctor failed to declare conflicts of interest you would rightly out them .........so is google wrong to out you as a Scientologist?

Meet Scientologists On-line

Joke Jolivette · Jolivette · Didier Joly · Cheryl Jonas · Reto Jonasch · E. Jondle · Barbara · · Brent · Carie ...home.scientology.org/all/JaJz.htm - Cached - Similar

> > >> > >> > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > >> > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > >> > >> > >> > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> Church of Scientology > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> church officials. This > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> officials has turned > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> secrets of the church, which > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and > Travolta amongst its > > > devotees.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joke

It is not me, nor' any of the other activists that are NOT Scientologists that have the credibility problems in the fight against psychiatric treatment.

So instead of trying to deflect attention away from the subject of the thread, try instead and establish your own credibility & that of your fellow travellers!

You know Joke if a pharma co or a Doctor failed to declare conflicts of interest you would rightly out them .........so is google wrong to out you as a Scientologist?

Meet Scientologists On-line

Joke Jolivette · Jolivette · Didier Joly · Cheryl Jonas · Reto Jonasch · E. Jondle · Barbara · · Brent · Carie ...home.scientology.org/all/JaJz.htm - Cached - Similar

> > >> > >> > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > >> > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > >> > >> > >> > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> Church of Scientology > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> church officials. This > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> officials has turned > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> secrets of the church, which > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and > Travolta amongst its > > > devotees.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joke

It is not me, nor' any of the other activists that are NOT Scientologists that have the credibility problems in the fight against psychiatric treatment.

So instead of trying to deflect attention away from the subject of the thread, try instead and establish your own credibility & that of your fellow travellers!

You know Joke if a pharma co or a Doctor failed to declare conflicts of interest you would rightly out them .........so is google wrong to out you as a Scientologist?

Meet Scientologists On-line

Joke Jolivette · Jolivette · Didier Joly · Cheryl Jonas · Reto Jonasch · E. Jondle · Barbara · · Brent · Carie ...home.scientology.org/all/JaJz.htm - Cached - Similar

> > >> > >> > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > >> > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > >> > >> > >> > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> Church of Scientology > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> church officials. This > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> officials has turned > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> secrets of the church, which > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and > Travolta amongst its > > > devotees.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

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Joke

As I explained to Jim earlier religious hatred is not something one can express in an open forum given the extent & scope of the laws that rightly exist in my country.

Notwistanding the above neither could a person express hatred towards the church of Scientology, even if one wanted to, simply because it is not recognised as a Church in UK or Ireland.

So I haven't, I wouldn't & finally couldn't

Joke I'm surprised that as a Scientologist that you so freely use the term INSANE which surely is a concept invented by Psychiatry. Isn't psychiatry the profession you guys seek to destroy ...........yet you use their terms?

Finally there are a number of long term members here who have mental health disabilities. I will therefore not permit you to use mentalism/stigma in an attack on anyone.

In closing might I record that given the opportunity to bolster your/your organisations credibility .................you did the opposite

> > > >> > > >> > > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > > >> >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> > f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> > sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> > Church of Scientology > > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> > church officials. This > > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> > officials has turned > > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> > secrets of the church, which > > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and> > > Travolta amongst its > > > > devotees.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32> Antivirus,> > version of virus signature database 5458> > (20100917) __________> > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

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Joke

As I explained to Jim earlier religious hatred is not something one can express in an open forum given the extent & scope of the laws that rightly exist in my country.

Notwistanding the above neither could a person express hatred towards the church of Scientology, even if one wanted to, simply because it is not recognised as a Church in UK or Ireland.

So I haven't, I wouldn't & finally couldn't

Joke I'm surprised that as a Scientologist that you so freely use the term INSANE which surely is a concept invented by Psychiatry. Isn't psychiatry the profession you guys seek to destroy ...........yet you use their terms?

Finally there are a number of long term members here who have mental health disabilities. I will therefore not permit you to use mentalism/stigma in an attack on anyone.

In closing might I record that given the opportunity to bolster your/your organisations credibility .................you did the opposite

> > > >> > > >> > > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > > >> >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> > f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> > sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> > Church of Scientology > > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> > church officials. This > > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> > officials has turned > > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> > secrets of the church, which > > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and> > > Travolta amongst its > > > > devotees.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32> Antivirus,> > version of virus signature database 5458> > (20100917) __________> > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

[Guest guest]

Joke

As I explained to Jim earlier religious hatred is not something one can express in an open forum given the extent & scope of the laws that rightly exist in my country.

Notwistanding the above neither could a person express hatred towards the church of Scientology, even if one wanted to, simply because it is not recognised as a Church in UK or Ireland.

So I haven't, I wouldn't & finally couldn't

Joke I'm surprised that as a Scientologist that you so freely use the term INSANE which surely is a concept invented by Psychiatry. Isn't psychiatry the profession you guys seek to destroy ...........yet you use their terms?

Finally there are a number of long term members here who have mental health disabilities. I will therefore not permit you to use mentalism/stigma in an attack on anyone.

In closing might I record that given the opportunity to bolster your/your organisations credibility .................you did the opposite

> > > >> > > >> > > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > > >> >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> > f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> > sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> > Church of Scientology > > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> > church officials. This > > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> > officials has turned > > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> > secrets of the church, which > > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and> > > Travolta amongst its > > > > devotees.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32> Antivirus,> > version of virus signature database 5458> > (20100917) __________> > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>

[Guest guest]

Joke

As I explained to Jim earlier religious hatred is not something one can express in an open forum given the extent & scope of the laws that rightly exist in my country.

Notwistanding the above neither could a person express hatred towards the church of Scientology, even if one wanted to, simply because it is not recognised as a Church in UK or Ireland.

So I haven't, I wouldn't & finally couldn't

Joke I'm surprised that as a Scientologist that you so freely use the term INSANE which surely is a concept invented by Psychiatry. Isn't psychiatry the profession you guys seek to destroy ...........yet you use their terms?

Finally there are a number of long term members here who have mental health disabilities. I will therefore not permit you to use mentalism/stigma in an attack on anyone.

In closing might I record that given the opportunity to bolster your/your organisations credibility .................you did the opposite

> > > >> > > >> > > > Secrets of Scientology - BBC Panorama video> > > >> >> <http://bobfiddaman.blogspot.com/2010/09/secrets-o> > f-scientology-bbc-panorama.html>> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/BBCPanorama?feature=mh> > sn#p/u/0/lF4lPeNwLOg> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Sweeney's last investigation into the> > Church of Scientology > > > > resulted in an explosive confrontation with> > church officials. This > > > > time, in a Panorama Special, one of those> > officials has turned > > > > whistleblower to help him reveal the dark> > secrets of the church, which > > > > boasts Hollywood A-listers Tom Cruise and> > > Travolta amongst its > > > > devotees.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32> Antivirus,> > version of virus signature database 5458> > (20100917) __________> > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com> >> > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus,> version of virus signature database 5458> (20100917) __________> > > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.> > > > http://www.eset.com>