Re: Double A Personalities

[Guest guest]

when marrying into another culture the first thing you

should look at is how are the women treated and what

are there expected rolls in the marriage. when looking

for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

it or not. you have to watch how their

mothers/sisters are treated and what there

mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true of

any race or religion. if their mother does all the

work and the father just sits there or just works

outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

i also learned this the hard way.

i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

away. on our second date we both told each other what

we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

views were so close that it was a match made in

heaven. i never knew you could love someone so much.

i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

in your heart.

rhoda

--- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> Patsy. I was exactly the same

> way as you were as a small child and even now about

> clutter. Disorder upsets

> me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it. Our

> house has been torn

> apart both literally and figuratively as my husband

> and I divorce.

>

> With great relish, my mother teases me by telling a

> story to all who will

> listen that characterizes my nearly

> obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> 5:30 AM on my own (no

> alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in my

> school uniform, make

> sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> stacked in an orderly

> pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway, watch

> the farm report and then

> the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> make a pitcher of juice

> and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> not a utensil or crumb

> behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> the " Ray Rayner " show for

> kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> the family to make their

> way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7 and

> 7:30. Needless to say, I

> didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> could to make sure I could

> hurry everyone else along.

>

> I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> thinking that surely he had

> minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> wouldn't have to clean up

> after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing a

> stereotype!

>

> Back to your doctor ...

>

> I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> than statistically expected

> of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> it's true, but I'm not

> ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> these fairly common

> observations are skewed this way because, for a Type

> A or " Double A " person,

> a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> introduces a loss of control

> and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> against. We try harder

> than others to find the answer, to make things right

> again, to put our

> bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> one or the best

> specialist that we can find because we can't accept

> what has happened. In

> general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> doctor and search for an

> answer than other personality types.

>

> So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> sees many Double As.

> Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> inexperienced physician or one

> who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> irony of a Type A having a

> rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence is

> that we seek help. I

> believe that Type As are normally very independent

> people, but being ill

> disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> theorizing, and investigating

> on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> best sources they can find.

>

> For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> which has no known cause

> nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> utterly unsettling. We are

> relentless in our quest for an answer.

>

> Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> a/Environmental Triggers

>

>

> > Hello ,

> >

> > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> rheumatic illness. One of

> the

> > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> that many of his patients

> > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> just joking, I would not

> be

> > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth to

> his observation. I was

> > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy house

> and chaos by the time I

> > was three or four years old. It is now impossible

> for me to keep

> everything

> > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively to

> clutter.

> >

> > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> tennis in Florida in my

> youth,

> > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> everything, me included!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You're right on the money with this one, Rhoda. I agree. Look for clues

BEFORE you get married - excellent advice.

What a story about the way you found your love! Five blocks away. Amazing.

I'm happy to hear that you are so much in love.

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I'm happy to report that

I do feel much hope for the future in many ways.

----- Original Message -----

From: " rhoda kendry " <plantjunkie@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 10:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

> when marrying into another culture the first thing you

> should look at is how are the women treated and what

> are there expected rolls in the marriage. when looking

> for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

> it or not. you have to watch how their

> mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true of

> any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> work and the father just sits there or just works

> outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

> i also learned this the hard way.

>

> i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

> away. on our second date we both told each other what

> we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> views were so close that it was a match made in

> heaven. i never knew you could love someone so much.

>

> i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

> in your heart.

>

> rhoda

[Guest guest]

Rhoda,

I'm so glad that you have a happy ending. I hear so many

people meeting on the Internet and getting married.

I love to hear happy endings.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:38 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

> when marrying into another culture the first thing you

> should look at is how are the women treated and what

> are there expected rolls in the marriage. when looking

> for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

> it or not. you have to watch how their

> mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true of

> any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> work and the father just sits there or just works

> outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

> i also learned this the hard way.

>

> i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

> away. on our second date we both told each other what

> we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> views were so close that it was a match made in

> heaven. i never knew you could love someone so much.

>

> i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

> in your heart.

>

> rhoda

> --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > way as you were as a small child and even now about

> > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it. Our

> > house has been torn

> > apart both literally and figuratively as my husband

> > and I divorce.

> >

> > With great relish, my mother teases me by telling a

> > story to all who will

> > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in my

> > school uniform, make

> > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > stacked in an orderly

> > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway, watch

> > the farm report and then

> > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> > make a pitcher of juice

> > and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> > not a utensil or crumb

> > behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> > the family to make their

> > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7 and

> > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > could to make sure I could

> > hurry everyone else along.

> >

> > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > thinking that surely he had

> > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > wouldn't have to clean up

> > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing a

> > stereotype!

> >

> > Back to your doctor ...

> >

> > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > than statistically expected

> > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > it's true, but I'm not

> > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > these fairly common

> > observations are skewed this way because, for a Type

> > A or " Double A " person,

> > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > introduces a loss of control

> > and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> > against. We try harder

> > than others to find the answer, to make things right

> > again, to put our

> > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> > one or the best

> > specialist that we can find because we can't accept

> > what has happened. In

> > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > doctor and search for an

> > answer than other personality types.

> >

> > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> > sees many Double As.

> > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > inexperienced physician or one

> > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> > irony of a Type A having a

> > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence is

> > that we seek help. I

> > believe that Type As are normally very independent

> > people, but being ill

> > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > theorizing, and investigating

> > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > best sources they can find.

> >

> > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> > which has no known cause

> > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > utterly unsettling. We are

> > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> >

> > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > a/Environmental Triggers

> >

> >

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > rheumatic illness. One of

> > the

> > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> > that many of his patients

> > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> > just joking, I would not

> > be

> > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth to

> > his observation. I was

> > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy house

> > and chaos by the time I

> > > was three or four years old. It is now impossible

> > for me to keep

> > everything

> > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively to

> > clutter.

> > >

> > > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> > tennis in Florida in my

> > youth,

> > > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> > everything, me included!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor

> >

> > Our websites:

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[Guest guest]

my only fear is that he wants to have another baby

which he does... i got my tubes tied 3 years ago i

hate hospitals so now i'll have to get them undone

again (if it works) then have a baby with me having ra

and fm . then tie them up again. like i said i hate

hospitals

--- a <aA@...> wrote:

> Rhoda,

> I'm so glad that you have a happy ending. I hear so

> many

> people meeting on the Internet and getting married.

>

> I love to hear happy endings.

> a

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:38 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

>

>

> > when marrying into another culture the first thing

> you

> > should look at is how are the women treated and

> what

> > are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> looking

> > for a husband i researched that kind of thing

> belive

> > it or not. you have to watch how their

> > mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> > mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is

> true of

> > any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> > work and the father just sits there or just works

> > outside there is a sure fire hint of things to

> come.

> > i also learned this the hard way.

> >

> > i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5

> blocks

> > away. on our second date we both told each other

> what

> > we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> > time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> > views were so close that it was a match made in

> > heaven. i never knew you could love someone so

> much.

> >

> > i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep

> hope

> > in your heart.

> >

> > rhoda

> > --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > > way as you were as a small child and even now

> about

> > > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it.

> Our

> > > house has been torn

> > > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> husband

> > > and I divorce.

> > >

> > > With great relish, my mother teases me by

> telling a

> > > story to all who will

> > > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by

> about

> > > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in

> my

> > > school uniform, make

> > > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > > stacked in an orderly

> > > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway,

> watch

> > > the farm report and then

> > > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen

> and

> > > make a pitcher of juice

> > > and some toast for the rest of the family

> leaving

> > > not a utensil or crumb

> > > behind, eat a little something, go back and

> watch

> > > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > > kids, and then wait for the other five members

> of

> > > the family to make their

> > > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7

> and

> > > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > > could to make sure I could

> > > hurry everyone else along.

> > >

> > > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > > thinking that surely he had

> > > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > > wouldn't have to clean up

> > > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for

> believing a

> > > stereotype!

> > >

> > > Back to your doctor ...

> > >

> > > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > > than statistically expected

> > > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > > it's true, but I'm not

> > > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > > these fairly common

> > > observations are skewed this way because, for a

> Type

> > > A or " Double A " person,

> > > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > > introduces a loss of control

> > > and a mess the likes of which we've never been

> up

> > > against. We try harder

> > > than others to find the answer, to make things

> right

> > > again, to put our

> > > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like

> this

> > > one or the best

> > > specialist that we can find because we can't

> accept

> > > what has happened. In

> > > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > > doctor and search for an

> > > answer than other personality types.

> > >

> > > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head

> Honcho "

> > > sees many Double As.

> > > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > > inexperienced physician or one

> > > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the

> obvious

> > > irony of a Type A having a

> > > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence

> is

> > > that we seek help. I

> > > believe that Type As are normally very

> independent

> > > people, but being ill

> > > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > > theorizing, and investigating

> > > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > > best sources they can find.

> > >

> > > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a

> disease

> > > which has no known cause

> > > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > > utterly unsettling. We are

> > > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> > >

> > > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > > < egroups>

> > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > > a/Environmental Triggers

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello ,

> > > >

> > > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > > rheumatic illness. One of

> > > the

> > > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic

> jokes

> > > that many of his patients

> > > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he

> is

> > > just joking, I would not

> > > be

> > > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth

> to

> > > his observation. I was

> > > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy

> house

> > > and chaos by the time I

> > > > was three or four years old. It is now

> impossible

> > > for me to keep

> > > everything

> > > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively

> to

> > > clutter.

> > > >

>

=== message truncated ===

_______________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Rhoda,

How do YOU feel about having another baby?

When I remarried after loosing my husband to cancer,

we briefly talked about having a child together, but

we're afraid of what it would do to my health.

With 4 children between us, I think we'll have to be content to

spoil our future grandchildren

a

----- Original Message -----

From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:53 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

> my only fear is that he wants to have another baby

> which he does... i got my tubes tied 3 years ago i

> hate hospitals so now i'll have to get them undone

> again (if it works) then have a baby with me having ra

> and fm . then tie them up again. like i said i hate

> hospitals

> --- a <aA@...> wrote:

> > Rhoda,

> > I'm so glad that you have a happy ending. I hear so

> > many

> > people meeting on the Internet and getting married.

> >

> > I love to hear happy endings.

> > a

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:38 AM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

> >

> >

> > > when marrying into another culture the first thing

> > you

> > > should look at is how are the women treated and

> > what

> > > are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> > looking

> > > for a husband i researched that kind of thing

> > belive

> > > it or not. you have to watch how their

> > > mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> > > mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is

> > true of

> > > any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> > > work and the father just sits there or just works

> > > outside there is a sure fire hint of things to

> > come.

> > > i also learned this the hard way.

> > >

> > > i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5

> > blocks

> > > away. on our second date we both told each other

> > what

> > > we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> > > time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> > > views were so close that it was a match made in

> > > heaven. i never knew you could love someone so

> > much.

> > >

> > > i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep

> > hope

> > > in your heart.

> > >

> > > rhoda

> > > --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > > > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > > > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > > > way as you were as a small child and even now

> > about

> > > > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > > > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it.

> > Our

> > > > house has been torn

> > > > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> > husband

> > > > and I divorce.

> > > >

> > > > With great relish, my mother teases me by

> > telling a

> > > > story to all who will

> > > > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > > > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > > > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by

> > about

> > > > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > > > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in

> > my

> > > > school uniform, make

> > > > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > > > stacked in an orderly

> > > > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway,

> > watch

> > > > the farm report and then

> > > > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen

> > and

> > > > make a pitcher of juice

> > > > and some toast for the rest of the family

> > leaving

> > > > not a utensil or crumb

> > > > behind, eat a little something, go back and

> > watch

> > > > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > > > kids, and then wait for the other five members

> > of

> > > > the family to make their

> > > > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7

> > and

> > > > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > > > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > > > could to make sure I could

> > > > hurry everyone else along.

> > > >

> > > > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > > > thinking that surely he had

> > > > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > > > wouldn't have to clean up

> > > > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for

> > believing a

> > > > stereotype!

> > > >

> > > > Back to your doctor ...

> > > >

> > > > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > > > than statistically expected

> > > > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > > > it's true, but I'm not

> > > > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > > > these fairly common

> > > > observations are skewed this way because, for a

> > Type

> > > > A or " Double A " person,

> > > > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > > > introduces a loss of control

> > > > and a mess the likes of which we've never been

> > up

> > > > against. We try harder

> > > > than others to find the answer, to make things

> > right

> > > > again, to put our

> > > > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like

> > this

> > > > one or the best

> > > > specialist that we can find because we can't

> > accept

> > > > what has happened. In

> > > > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > > > doctor and search for an

> > > > answer than other personality types.

> > > >

> > > > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head

> > Honcho "

> > > > sees many Double As.

> > > > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > > > inexperienced physician or one

> > > > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the

> > obvious

> > > > irony of a Type A having a

> > > > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence

> > is

> > > > that we seek help. I

> > > > believe that Type As are normally very

> > independent

> > > > people, but being ill

> > > > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > > > theorizing, and investigating

> > > > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > > > best sources they can find.

> > > >

> > > > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a

> > disease

> > > > which has no known cause

> > > > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > > > utterly unsettling. We are

> > > > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> > > >

> > > > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > > > < egroups>

> > > > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > > > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > > > a/Environmental Triggers

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hello ,

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > > > rheumatic illness. One of

> > > > the

> > > > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic

> > jokes

> > > > that many of his patients

> > > > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he

> > is

> > > > just joking, I would not

> > > > be

> > > > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth

> > to

> > > > his observation. I was

> > > > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy

> > house

> > > > and chaos by the time I

> > > > > was three or four years old. It is now

> > impossible

> > > > for me to keep

> > > > everything

> > > > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively

> > to

> > > > clutter.

> > > > >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> _______________________________________________________

>

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i loved being pregnant it was the birth i hated first

pain to last it only takes about 4 hours but the baby

comes out so fast i tear and can't have sex again for

months first time it took 2 vials of freezing and

almost an hour to stitch me up the second only took

half an hour for the stitches. THAT is what i worry

about. i would love to have a little carl jr running

arround or a carly( family name of hubby) like i said

i hate hospitals and stitches. but i would endure the

stitches to give him a child. but that only happens

if i can get my tubes undone successfully.. bleck!!!

more hospital and more stitches...

rhoda

--- a <aA@...> wrote:

> Rhoda,

> How do YOU feel about having another baby?

> When I remarried after loosing my husband to cancer,

> we briefly talked about having a child together, but

> we're afraid of what it would do to my health.

> With 4 children between us, I think we'll have to be

> content to

> spoil our future grandchildren

> a

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:53 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

>

>

> > my only fear is that he wants to have another baby

> > which he does... i got my tubes tied 3 years ago i

> > hate hospitals so now i'll have to get them undone

> > again (if it works) then have a baby with me

> having ra

> > and fm . then tie them up again. like i said i

> hate

> > hospitals

> > --- a <aA@...> wrote:

> > > Rhoda,

> > > I'm so glad that you have a happy ending. I

> hear so

> > > many

> > > people meeting on the Internet and getting

> married.

> > >

> > > I love to hear happy endings.

> > > a

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: rhoda kendry <plantjunkie@...>

> > > < egroups>

> > > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 11:38 AM

> > > Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

> > >

> > >

> > > > when marrying into another culture the first

> thing

> > > you

> > > > should look at is how are the women treated

> and

> > > what

> > > > are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> > > looking

> > > > for a husband i researched that kind of thing

> > > belive

> > > > it or not. you have to watch how their

> > > > mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> > > > mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is

> > > true of

> > > > any race or religion. if their mother does all

> the

> > > > work and the father just sits there or just

> works

> > > > outside there is a sure fire hint of things to

> > > come.

> > > > i also learned this the hard way.

> > > >

> > > > i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5

> > > blocks

> > > > away. on our second date we both told each

> other

> > > what

> > > > we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting

> our

> > > > time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but

> our

> > > > views were so close that it was a match made

> in

> > > > heaven. i never knew you could love someone

> so

> > > much.

> > > >

> > > > i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but

> keep

> > > hope

> > > > in your heart.

> > > >

> > > > rhoda

> > > > --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > Maybe you and I were twins separated at

> birth,

> > > > > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > > > > way as you were as a small child and even

> now

> > > about

> > > > > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > > > > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of

> it.

> > > Our

> > > > > house has been torn

> > > > > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> > > husband

> > > > > and I divorce.

> > > > >

> > > > > With great relish, my mother teases me by

> > > telling a

> > > > > story to all who will

> > > > > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > > > > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > > > > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by

> > > about

> > > > > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > > > > alarm either), wash up, carefully get

> dressed in

> > > my

> > > > > school uniform, make

> > > > > sure my neatly completed homework and books

> were

> > > > > stacked in an orderly

> > > > > pyramid on the hall table in the

> entranceway,

> > > watch

> > > > > the farm report and then

> > > > > the news on a local channel, go to the

> kitchen

> > > and

> > > > > make a pitcher of juice

> > > > > and some toast for the rest of the family

> > > leaving

> > > > > not a utensil or crumb

> > > > > behind, eat a little something, go back and

> > > watch

> > > > > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > > > > kids, and then wait for the other five

> members

> > > of

> > > > > the family to make their

> > > > > way downstairs for breakfast sometime

> between 7

> > > and

> > > > > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > > > > didn't like to be late for school and did

> what I

> > > > > could to make sure I could

> > > > > hurry everyone else along.

> > > > >

> > > > > I married a Japanese man probably

> subconsciously

> > > > > thinking that surely he had

> > > > > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I

> certainly

> > > > > wouldn't have to clean up

> > > > > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for

> > > believing a

> > > > > stereotype!

> > > > >

> > > > > Back to your doctor ...

> > > > >

> > > > > I have heard that Type As make up a larger

> share

> > > > > than statistically expected

> > > > > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not

> sure

> > > > > it's true, but I'm not

> > > > > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is

> that

> > > > > these fairly common

> > > > > observations are skewed this way because,

> for a

> > > Type

> > > > > A or " Double A " person,

> > > > > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept.

> It

> > > > > introduces a loss of control

> > > > > and a mess the likes of which we've never

> been

> > > up

> > > > > against. We try harder

> > > > > than others to find the answer, to make

> things

> > > right

> > > > > again, to put our

> > > > > bodies back in order. We may seek groups

> like

> > > this

> > > > > one or the best

> > > > > specialist that we can find because we can't

> > > accept

> > > > > what has happened. In

> > > > > general, I think we are more likely to go to

> the

> > > > > doctor and search for an

> > > > > answer than other personality types.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head

> > > Honcho "

> > > > > sees many Double As.

> > > > > Double As want to see the head honcho, not

> an

> > > > > inexperienced physician or one

> > > > > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the

> > > obvious

>

=== message truncated ===

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Hi ,

More about type A.

I enjoyed your response to my " Type A " post. Evidently there is another

possibility having to do with illness and Type As. You seem to know a lot

about medicine, so if I use the wrong terms hopefully you will know what I

mean! Those of us who are Type A pull up the " fight or flight " response

over mediocre situations. I believe the chemical in the brain that we

overuse is natural cortisone (cortisol) I believe it is called. Evidently

our bodies over respond to insignificant things that a laid back person

would never notice, let alone get upset about. I could probably count the

times I have ever been late in my life on a few fingers. I read years ago,

before I had any medical problems, that eventually constantly " bathing " the

body with this natural chemical would cause problems. I have tried to

change the way I am, but it is as much a part of me as the color of my eyes.

You are definitely right that we are more likely to dig out good medical

care. ly, I believe coping with all those laid-back people causes Type

As more stress than anything else. Ha!

-----Original Message-----

From: Matsumura [mailto:Matsumura_Clan@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 6:35 AM

egroups

Subject: [ ] Double A Personalities

Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth, Patsy. I was exactly the same

way as you were as a small child and even now about clutter. Disorder upsets

me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it. Our house has been torn

apart both literally and figuratively as my husband and I divorce.

With great relish, my mother teases me by telling a story to all who will

listen that characterizes my nearly obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about 5:30 AM on my own (no

alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in my school uniform, make

sure my neatly completed homework and books were stacked in an orderly

pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway, watch the farm report and then

the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and make a pitcher of juice

and some toast for the rest of the family leaving not a utensil or crumb

behind, eat a little something, go back and watch the " Ray Rayner " show for

kids, and then wait for the other five members of the family to make their

way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7 and 7:30. Needless to say, I

didn't like to be late for school and did what I could to make sure I could

hurry everyone else along.

I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously thinking that surely he had

minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly wouldn't have to clean up

after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing a stereotype!

Back to your doctor ...

I have heard that Type As make up a larger share than statistically expected

of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure it's true, but I'm not

ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that these fairly common

observations are skewed this way because, for a Type A or " Double A " person,

a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It introduces a loss of control

and a mess the likes of which we've never been up against. We try harder

than others to find the answer, to make things right again, to put our

bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this one or the best

specialist that we can find because we can't accept what has happened. In

general, I think we are more likely to go to the doctor and search for an

answer than other personality types.

So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho " sees many Double As.

Double As want to see the head honcho, not an inexperienced physician or one

who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious irony of a Type A having a

rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence is that we seek help. I

believe that Type As are normally very independent people, but being ill

disturbs them so greatly that, after reading, theorizing, and investigating

on their own, they do seek advice - and from the best sources they can find.

For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease which has no known cause

nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is utterly unsettling. We are

relentless in our quest for an answer.

Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

----- Original Message -----

From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and a/Environmental Triggers

> Hello ,

>

> I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of rheumatic illness. One of

the

> " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes that many of his patients

> are " double A " personalities. Even though he is just joking, I would not

be

> a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth to his observation. I was

> born to laid back parents, but hated a messy house and chaos by the time I

> was three or four years old. It is now impossible for me to keep

everything

> in order, but my brain still reacts negatively to clutter.

>

> And yes, , I had forgotten about playing tennis in Florida in my

youth,

> and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered everything, me included!

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Hi Rhoda,

What is " icq " . I want to find out who lives five blocks away from me and

check him out!

Congratulations in finding your love!

Merry Christmas

-----Original Message-----

From: rhoda kendry [mailto:plantjunkie@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:38 AM

egroups

Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

when marrying into another culture the first thing you

should look at is how are the women treated and what

are there expected rolls in the marriage. when looking

for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

it or not. you have to watch how their

mothers/sisters are treated and what there

mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true of

any race or religion. if their mother does all the

work and the father just sits there or just works

outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

i also learned this the hard way.

i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

away. on our second date we both told each other what

we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

views were so close that it was a match made in

heaven. i never knew you could love someone so much.

i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

in your heart.

rhoda

--- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> Patsy. I was exactly the same

> way as you were as a small child and even now about

> clutter. Disorder upsets

> me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it. Our

> house has been torn

> apart both literally and figuratively as my husband

> and I divorce.

>

> With great relish, my mother teases me by telling a

> story to all who will

> listen that characterizes my nearly

> obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> 5:30 AM on my own (no

> alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in my

> school uniform, make

> sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> stacked in an orderly

> pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway, watch

> the farm report and then

> the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> make a pitcher of juice

> and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> not a utensil or crumb

> behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> the " Ray Rayner " show for

> kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> the family to make their

> way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7 and

> 7:30. Needless to say, I

> didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> could to make sure I could

> hurry everyone else along.

>

> I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> thinking that surely he had

> minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> wouldn't have to clean up

> after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing a

> stereotype!

>

> Back to your doctor ...

>

> I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> than statistically expected

> of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> it's true, but I'm not

> ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> these fairly common

> observations are skewed this way because, for a Type

> A or " Double A " person,

> a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> introduces a loss of control

> and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> against. We try harder

> than others to find the answer, to make things right

> again, to put our

> bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> one or the best

> specialist that we can find because we can't accept

> what has happened. In

> general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> doctor and search for an

> answer than other personality types.

>

> So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> sees many Double As.

> Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> inexperienced physician or one

> who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> irony of a Type A having a

> rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence is

> that we seek help. I

> believe that Type As are normally very independent

> people, but being ill

> disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> theorizing, and investigating

> on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> best sources they can find.

>

> For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> which has no known cause

> nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> utterly unsettling. We are

> relentless in our quest for an answer.

>

> Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> a/Environmental Triggers

>

>

> > Hello ,

> >

> > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> rheumatic illness. One of

> the

> > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> that many of his patients

> > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> just joking, I would not

> be

> > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth to

> his observation. I was

> > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy house

> and chaos by the time I

> > was three or four years old. It is now impossible

> for me to keep

> everything

> > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively to

> clutter.

> >

> > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> tennis in Florida in my

> youth,

> > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> everything, me included!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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--- Patsy3 <Patsy3@...> wrote:

> Hi Rhoda,

>

> What is " icq " . I want to find out who lives five

> blocks away from me and

> check him out!

>

> Congratulations in finding your love!

>

> Merry Christmas

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhoda kendry [mailto:plantjunkie@...]

> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:38 AM

> egroups

> Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

>

>

> when marrying into another culture the first thing

> you

> should look at is how are the women treated and what

> are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> looking

> for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

> it or not. you have to watch how their

> mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true

> of

> any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> work and the father just sits there or just works

> outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

> i also learned this the hard way.

>

> i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

> away. on our second date we both told each other

> what

> we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> views were so close that it was a match made in

> heaven. i never knew you could love someone so

> much.

>

> i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

> in your heart.

>

> rhoda

> --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > way as you were as a small child and even now

> about

> > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it.

> Our

> > house has been torn

> > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> husband

> > and I divorce.

> >

> > With great relish, my mother teases me by telling

> a

> > story to all who will

> > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in

> my

> > school uniform, make

> > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > stacked in an orderly

> > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway,

> watch

> > the farm report and then

> > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> > make a pitcher of juice

> > and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> > not a utensil or crumb

> > behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> > the family to make their

> > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7

> and

> > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > could to make sure I could

> > hurry everyone else along.

> >

> > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > thinking that surely he had

> > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > wouldn't have to clean up

> > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing

> a

> > stereotype!

> >

> > Back to your doctor ...

> >

> > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > than statistically expected

> > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > it's true, but I'm not

> > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > these fairly common

> > observations are skewed this way because, for a

> Type

> > A or " Double A " person,

> > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > introduces a loss of control

> > and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> > against. We try harder

> > than others to find the answer, to make things

> right

> > again, to put our

> > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> > one or the best

> > specialist that we can find because we can't

> accept

> > what has happened. In

> > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > doctor and search for an

> > answer than other personality types.

> >

> > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> > sees many Double As.

> > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > inexperienced physician or one

> > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> > irony of a Type A having a

> > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence

> is

> > that we seek help. I

> > believe that Type As are normally very independent

> > people, but being ill

> > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > theorizing, and investigating

> > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > best sources they can find.

> >

> > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> > which has no known cause

> > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > utterly unsettling. We are

> > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> >

> > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > a/Environmental Triggers

> >

> >

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > rheumatic illness. One of

> > the

> > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> > that many of his patients

> > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> > just joking, I would not

> > be

> > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth

> to

> > his observation. I was

> > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy

> house

> > and chaos by the time I

> > > was three or four years old. It is now

> impossible

> > for me to keep

> > everything

> > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively

> to

> > clutter.

> > >

> > > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> > tennis in Florida in my

> > youth,

> > > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> > everything, me included!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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--- Patsy3 <Patsy3@...> wrote:

> Hi Rhoda,

>

> What is " icq " . I want to find out who lives five

> blocks away from me and

> check him out!

>

> Congratulations in finding your love!

>

> Merry Christmas

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhoda kendry [mailto:plantjunkie@...]

> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:38 AM

> egroups

> Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

>

>

> when marrying into another culture the first thing

> you

> should look at is how are the women treated and what

> are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> looking

> for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

> it or not. you have to watch how their

> mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true

> of

> any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> work and the father just sits there or just works

> outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

> i also learned this the hard way.

>

> i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

> away. on our second date we both told each other

> what

> we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> views were so close that it was a match made in

> heaven. i never knew you could love someone so

> much.

>

> i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

> in your heart.

>

> rhoda

> --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > way as you were as a small child and even now

> about

> > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it.

> Our

> > house has been torn

> > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> husband

> > and I divorce.

> >

> > With great relish, my mother teases me by telling

> a

> > story to all who will

> > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in

> my

> > school uniform, make

> > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > stacked in an orderly

> > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway,

> watch

> > the farm report and then

> > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> > make a pitcher of juice

> > and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> > not a utensil or crumb

> > behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> > the family to make their

> > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7

> and

> > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > could to make sure I could

> > hurry everyone else along.

> >

> > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > thinking that surely he had

> > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > wouldn't have to clean up

> > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing

> a

> > stereotype!

> >

> > Back to your doctor ...

> >

> > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > than statistically expected

> > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > it's true, but I'm not

> > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > these fairly common

> > observations are skewed this way because, for a

> Type

> > A or " Double A " person,

> > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > introduces a loss of control

> > and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> > against. We try harder

> > than others to find the answer, to make things

> right

> > again, to put our

> > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> > one or the best

> > specialist that we can find because we can't

> accept

> > what has happened. In

> > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > doctor and search for an

> > answer than other personality types.

> >

> > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> > sees many Double As.

> > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > inexperienced physician or one

> > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> > irony of a Type A having a

> > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence

> is

> > that we seek help. I

> > believe that Type As are normally very independent

> > people, but being ill

> > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > theorizing, and investigating

> > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > best sources they can find.

> >

> > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> > which has no known cause

> > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > utterly unsettling. We are

> > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> >

> > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > a/Environmental Triggers

> >

> >

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > rheumatic illness. One of

> > the

> > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> > that many of his patients

> > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> > just joking, I would not

> > be

> > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth

> to

> > his observation. I was

> > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy

> house

> > and chaos by the time I

> > > was three or four years old. It is now

> impossible

> > for me to keep

> > everything

> > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively

> to

> > clutter.

> > >

> > > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> > tennis in Florida in my

> > youth,

> > > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> > everything, me included!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor

> >

>

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--- Patsy3 <Patsy3@...> wrote:

> Hi Rhoda,

>

> What is " icq " . I want to find out who lives five

> blocks away from me and

> check him out!

>

> Congratulations in finding your love!

>

> Merry Christmas

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhoda kendry [mailto:plantjunkie@...]

> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:38 AM

> egroups

> Subject: Re: [ ] Double A Personalities

>

>

> when marrying into another culture the first thing

> you

> should look at is how are the women treated and what

> are there expected rolls in the marriage. when

> looking

> for a husband i researched that kind of thing belive

> it or not. you have to watch how their

> mothers/sisters are treated and what there

> mothers/sisters are expected to do and this is true

> of

> any race or religion. if their mother does all the

> work and the father just sits there or just works

> outside there is a sure fire hint of things to come.

> i also learned this the hard way.

>

> i met the love of my life on icq. he lived 5 blocks

> away. on our second date we both told each other

> what

> we were looking for so we wouldn't be wasting our

> time. i know it sounds cold and calculated but our

> views were so close that it was a match made in

> heaven. i never knew you could love someone so

> much.

>

> i'm sorry your marrage didn't work out but keep hope

> in your heart.

>

> rhoda

> --- Matsumura <Matsumura_Clan@...> wrote:

> > Maybe you and I were twins separated at birth,

> > Patsy. I was exactly the same

> > way as you were as a small child and even now

> about

> > clutter. Disorder upsets

> > me. And at the moment, I live with a lot of it.

> Our

> > house has been torn

> > apart both literally and figuratively as my

> husband

> > and I divorce.

> >

> > With great relish, my mother teases me by telling

> a

> > story to all who will

> > listen that characterizes my nearly

> > obsessive-compulsive behavior as a

> > child. As a sixth-grader, I would get up by about

> > 5:30 AM on my own (no

> > alarm either), wash up, carefully get dressed in

> my

> > school uniform, make

> > sure my neatly completed homework and books were

> > stacked in an orderly

> > pyramid on the hall table in the entranceway,

> watch

> > the farm report and then

> > the news on a local channel, go to the kitchen and

> > make a pitcher of juice

> > and some toast for the rest of the family leaving

> > not a utensil or crumb

> > behind, eat a little something, go back and watch

> > the " Ray Rayner " show for

> > kids, and then wait for the other five members of

> > the family to make their

> > way downstairs for breakfast sometime between 7

> and

> > 7:30. Needless to say, I

> > didn't like to be late for school and did what I

> > could to make sure I could

> > hurry everyone else along.

> >

> > I married a Japanese man probably subconsciously

> > thinking that surely he had

> > minimalist and artistic tendencies. I certainly

> > wouldn't have to clean up

> > after him. Wrong. That's what I get for believing

> a

> > stereotype!

> >

> > Back to your doctor ...

> >

> > I have heard that Type As make up a larger share

> > than statistically expected

> > of sufferers of rheumatic diseases. I'm not sure

> > it's true, but I'm not

> > ruling it out. True or untrue, my theory is that

> > these fairly common

> > observations are skewed this way because, for a

> Type

> > A or " Double A " person,

> > a rheumatic disease is very hard to accept. It

> > introduces a loss of control

> > and a mess the likes of which we've never been up

> > against. We try harder

> > than others to find the answer, to make things

> right

> > again, to put our

> > bodies back in order. We may seek groups like this

> > one or the best

> > specialist that we can find because we can't

> accept

> > what has happened. In

> > general, I think we are more likely to go to the

> > doctor and search for an

> > answer than other personality types.

> >

> > So, it doesn't surprise me that your " Head Honcho "

> > sees many Double As.

> > Double As want to see the head honcho, not an

> > inexperienced physician or one

> > who lacks drive or smarts. Aside from the obvious

> > irony of a Type A having a

> > rheumatic disease, another unexpected occurrence

> is

> > that we seek help. I

> > believe that Type As are normally very independent

> > people, but being ill

> > disturbs them so greatly that, after reading,

> > theorizing, and investigating

> > on their own, they do seek advice - and from the

> > best sources they can find.

> >

> > For a Type A to be told that he/she has a disease

> > which has no known cause

> > nor cure or to not be able to get a diagnosis is

> > utterly unsettling. We are

> > relentless in our quest for an answer.

> >

> > Guess I'm in ramble mode today!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Patsy3 " <Patsy3@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 10:02 PM

> > Subject: RE: [ ] Patsy and

> > a/Environmental Triggers

> >

> >

> > > Hello ,

> > >

> > > I agree with your " multiple facet " theory of

> > rheumatic illness. One of

> > the

> > > " Head Honcho " rheumatologists at my clinic jokes

> > that many of his patients

> > > are " double A " personalities. Even though he is

> > just joking, I would not

> > be

> > > a bit surprised if there is not a bit of truth

> to

> > his observation. I was

> > > born to laid back parents, but hated a messy

> house

> > and chaos by the time I

> > > was three or four years old. It is now

> impossible

> > for me to keep

> > everything

> > > in order, but my brain still reacts negatively

> to

> > clutter.

> > >

> > > And yes, , I had forgotten about playing

> > tennis in Florida in my

> > youth,

> > > and never leaving the courts as DDT mist covered

> > everything, me included!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor

> >

>

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