Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Sometimes an adverse drug reaction (ADR) can occur as a result of an enhanced metabolic reaction (multiplicative synergism) from factors related to polypharmacy, genetic predisposition, metabolising-organ- health, etc or a combination thereof. The founding fathers of our country (USA) wisely set up a government which is not necessarily guaranteed to provide immediate justice to all victims but rather was expressly devised to simply survive (endure) long enough(through numerous checks and balances between it's various pervertable parts) to provide justice to groups of victims as a certain threshold capacity of group victimization is reached. Historically, only when victims overcome their apathy and fear does change result through the couragous non-violent, progressive & contentious actions of those victims against any unjust tyranny. We are reaching that threshold as a society consisting of threatened families. One sage says with increased knowledge comes increased but temporary suffering. > Hi Glitter, I had the test for p450 (the extensive expensive test ) and I am a good metabolizer in all the pathways.. so my reaction had nothing to do with the metabolizing.....nne > Re: SSRIs, agression, et all > > > In a message dated 9/13/04 6:16:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > In other words, investigators will probably need to > > concentrate on people who were prescribed SSRIs for > > non-psychiatric complaints to scientifically discover > > the probability of SSRIs causing suicide or depression > > or aggression etc. > > > I would be one of those people. I was prescribed Paxil for chronic pain. It > made me suicidal, aggressive, deranged. But then there is the argument that > people who had bad reactions to these drugs are poor metabolizers. HA! > That's a convenient way to shift the blame from the drugs to the person who took > them. I happen to know a couple of people who had this genetic testing, this > P450 definitive test, and they were GOOD metabolizers and STILL had terrible > reactions to these drugs. Let's face it. IT'S THE DRUGS!!!! All of this > doublespeak is analogous to saying someone who dies after taking rat poison was just > a poor metabolizer, or had a propensity for death BEFORE they took it. It's > baloney and those of us who are still suffering from the lies and deceit know > it's baloney. And eventually the lies will be exposed and we'll all be > vindicated. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Sometimes an adverse drug reaction (ADR) can occur as a result of an enhanced metabolic reaction (multiplicative synergism) from factors related to polypharmacy, genetic predisposition, metabolising-organ- health, etc or a combination thereof. The founding fathers of our country (USA) wisely set up a government which is not necessarily guaranteed to provide immediate justice to all victims but rather was expressly devised to simply survive (endure) long enough(through numerous checks and balances between it's various pervertable parts) to provide justice to groups of victims as a certain threshold capacity of group victimization is reached. Historically, only when victims overcome their apathy and fear does change result through the couragous non-violent, progressive & contentious actions of those victims against any unjust tyranny. We are reaching that threshold as a society consisting of threatened families. One sage says with increased knowledge comes increased but temporary suffering. > Hi Glitter, I had the test for p450 (the extensive expensive test ) and I am a good metabolizer in all the pathways.. so my reaction had nothing to do with the metabolizing.....nne > Re: SSRIs, agression, et all > > > In a message dated 9/13/04 6:16:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > In other words, investigators will probably need to > > concentrate on people who were prescribed SSRIs for > > non-psychiatric complaints to scientifically discover > > the probability of SSRIs causing suicide or depression > > or aggression etc. > > > I would be one of those people. I was prescribed Paxil for chronic pain. It > made me suicidal, aggressive, deranged. But then there is the argument that > people who had bad reactions to these drugs are poor metabolizers. HA! > That's a convenient way to shift the blame from the drugs to the person who took > them. I happen to know a couple of people who had this genetic testing, this > P450 definitive test, and they were GOOD metabolizers and STILL had terrible > reactions to these drugs. Let's face it. IT'S THE DRUGS!!!! All of this > doublespeak is analogous to saying someone who dies after taking rat poison was just > a poor metabolizer, or had a propensity for death BEFORE they took it. It's > baloney and those of us who are still suffering from the lies and deceit know > it's baloney. And eventually the lies will be exposed and we'll all be > vindicated. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Sometimes an adverse drug reaction (ADR) can occur as a result of an enhanced metabolic reaction (multiplicative synergism) from factors related to polypharmacy, genetic predisposition, metabolising-organ- health, etc or a combination thereof. The founding fathers of our country (USA) wisely set up a government which is not necessarily guaranteed to provide immediate justice to all victims but rather was expressly devised to simply survive (endure) long enough(through numerous checks and balances between it's various pervertable parts) to provide justice to groups of victims as a certain threshold capacity of group victimization is reached. Historically, only when victims overcome their apathy and fear does change result through the couragous non-violent, progressive & contentious actions of those victims against any unjust tyranny. We are reaching that threshold as a society consisting of threatened families. One sage says with increased knowledge comes increased but temporary suffering. > Hi Glitter, I had the test for p450 (the extensive expensive test ) and I am a good metabolizer in all the pathways.. so my reaction had nothing to do with the metabolizing.....nne > Re: SSRIs, agression, et all > > > In a message dated 9/13/04 6:16:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > In other words, investigators will probably need to > > concentrate on people who were prescribed SSRIs for > > non-psychiatric complaints to scientifically discover > > the probability of SSRIs causing suicide or depression > > or aggression etc. > > > I would be one of those people. I was prescribed Paxil for chronic pain. It > made me suicidal, aggressive, deranged. But then there is the argument that > people who had bad reactions to these drugs are poor metabolizers. HA! > That's a convenient way to shift the blame from the drugs to the person who took > them. I happen to know a couple of people who had this genetic testing, this > P450 definitive test, and they were GOOD metabolizers and STILL had terrible > reactions to these drugs. Let's face it. IT'S THE DRUGS!!!! All of this > doublespeak is analogous to saying someone who dies after taking rat poison was just > a poor metabolizer, or had a propensity for death BEFORE they took it. It's > baloney and those of us who are still suffering from the lies and deceit know > it's baloney. And eventually the lies will be exposed and we'll all be > vindicated. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 Sometimes an adverse drug reaction (ADR) can occur as a result of an enhanced metabolic reaction (multiplicative synergism) from factors related to polypharmacy, genetic predisposition, metabolising-organ- health, etc or a combination thereof. The founding fathers of our country (USA) wisely set up a government which is not necessarily guaranteed to provide immediate justice to all victims but rather was expressly devised to simply survive (endure) long enough(through numerous checks and balances between it's various pervertable parts) to provide justice to groups of victims as a certain threshold capacity of group victimization is reached. Historically, only when victims overcome their apathy and fear does change result through the couragous non-violent, progressive & contentious actions of those victims against any unjust tyranny. We are reaching that threshold as a society consisting of threatened families. One sage says with increased knowledge comes increased but temporary suffering. > Hi Glitter, I had the test for p450 (the extensive expensive test ) and I am a good metabolizer in all the pathways.. so my reaction had nothing to do with the metabolizing.....nne > Re: SSRIs, agression, et all > > > In a message dated 9/13/04 6:16:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > In other words, investigators will probably need to > > concentrate on people who were prescribed SSRIs for > > non-psychiatric complaints to scientifically discover > > the probability of SSRIs causing suicide or depression > > or aggression etc. > > > I would be one of those people. I was prescribed Paxil for chronic pain. It > made me suicidal, aggressive, deranged. But then there is the argument that > people who had bad reactions to these drugs are poor metabolizers. HA! > That's a convenient way to shift the blame from the drugs to the person who took > them. I happen to know a couple of people who had this genetic testing, this > P450 definitive test, and they were GOOD metabolizers and STILL had terrible > reactions to these drugs. Let's face it. IT'S THE DRUGS!!!! All of this > doublespeak is analogous to saying someone who dies after taking rat poison was just > a poor metabolizer, or had a propensity for death BEFORE they took it. It's > baloney and those of us who are still suffering from the lies and deceit know > it's baloney. And eventually the lies will be exposed and we'll all be > vindicated. > > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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