Re: Increased Impulsiveness At The Root Of SSRI Suicide Risk?????????

[Guest guest]

Increased impulsiveness is definitely a problem and is listed in the

FDA Advisory as one of the adverse reactions. However, the young

woman who hung herself during her withdrawal period from Cymbalta (an

Effexor " clone " drug) during the clinical trials was by all accounts

-- family, friends, the Lilly screening psychiatric staff -- not

suicidal at the start of her participation in the trial. IIRC, there

was some conflicting opinion as to whether there had been a period of

her life when she might have voiced suicidal ideation. But as for

being suicidal at the time she killed herself -- no. There are

reports from other parents about children who died for whom there was

no report or belief that the child had any suicidal thoughts prior to

taking the medications.

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> I took Effexor for a little while and what I noticed right away was

> that it inhibited my natural fear response...the good kind of fear.

> I found myself coming up with crazy ideas and impulses, stuff which

> without the drug I guess I would inhibit somehow.

>

> So whether SSRI's increase suicidal thoughts etc I don't know but if

> people are depressed and suicidal to begin with (duh!) then what

> these drugs seem to do is supress any natural tendency to 'not act'

> on certain impulses.

>

> So I wouldn't say that they make people more suicidal. I would say

> that they make people much more impulsive and if one is suicidal to

> begin with then there's the connection!

>

> If anything, I would say these drugs lead to an increase in risk

> taking behaviors.

[Guest guest]

Increased impulsiveness is definitely a problem and is listed in the

FDA Advisory as one of the adverse reactions. However, the young

woman who hung herself during her withdrawal period from Cymbalta (an

Effexor " clone " drug) during the clinical trials was by all accounts

-- family, friends, the Lilly screening psychiatric staff -- not

suicidal at the start of her participation in the trial. IIRC, there

was some conflicting opinion as to whether there had been a period of

her life when she might have voiced suicidal ideation. But as for

being suicidal at the time she killed herself -- no. There are

reports from other parents about children who died for whom there was

no report or belief that the child had any suicidal thoughts prior to

taking the medications.

>

>

>

> I took Effexor for a little while and what I noticed right away was

> that it inhibited my natural fear response...the good kind of fear.

> I found myself coming up with crazy ideas and impulses, stuff which

> without the drug I guess I would inhibit somehow.

>

> So whether SSRI's increase suicidal thoughts etc I don't know but if

> people are depressed and suicidal to begin with (duh!) then what

> these drugs seem to do is supress any natural tendency to 'not act'

> on certain impulses.

>

> So I wouldn't say that they make people more suicidal. I would say

> that they make people much more impulsive and if one is suicidal to

> begin with then there's the connection!

>

> If anything, I would say these drugs lead to an increase in risk

> taking behaviors.

[Guest guest]

Increased impulsiveness is definitely a problem and is listed in the

FDA Advisory as one of the adverse reactions. However, the young

woman who hung herself during her withdrawal period from Cymbalta (an

Effexor " clone " drug) during the clinical trials was by all accounts

-- family, friends, the Lilly screening psychiatric staff -- not

suicidal at the start of her participation in the trial. IIRC, there

was some conflicting opinion as to whether there had been a period of

her life when she might have voiced suicidal ideation. But as for

being suicidal at the time she killed herself -- no. There are

reports from other parents about children who died for whom there was

no report or belief that the child had any suicidal thoughts prior to

taking the medications.

>

>

>

> I took Effexor for a little while and what I noticed right away was

> that it inhibited my natural fear response...the good kind of fear.

> I found myself coming up with crazy ideas and impulses, stuff which

> without the drug I guess I would inhibit somehow.

>

> So whether SSRI's increase suicidal thoughts etc I don't know but if

> people are depressed and suicidal to begin with (duh!) then what

> these drugs seem to do is supress any natural tendency to 'not act'

> on certain impulses.

>

> So I wouldn't say that they make people more suicidal. I would say

> that they make people much more impulsive and if one is suicidal to

> begin with then there's the connection!

>

> If anything, I would say these drugs lead to an increase in risk

> taking behaviors.

[Guest guest]

Increased impulsiveness is definitely a problem and is listed in the

FDA Advisory as one of the adverse reactions. However, the young

woman who hung herself during her withdrawal period from Cymbalta (an

Effexor " clone " drug) during the clinical trials was by all accounts

-- family, friends, the Lilly screening psychiatric staff -- not

suicidal at the start of her participation in the trial. IIRC, there

was some conflicting opinion as to whether there had been a period of

her life when she might have voiced suicidal ideation. But as for

being suicidal at the time she killed herself -- no. There are

reports from other parents about children who died for whom there was

no report or belief that the child had any suicidal thoughts prior to

taking the medications.

>

>

>

> I took Effexor for a little while and what I noticed right away was

> that it inhibited my natural fear response...the good kind of fear.

> I found myself coming up with crazy ideas and impulses, stuff which

> without the drug I guess I would inhibit somehow.

>

> So whether SSRI's increase suicidal thoughts etc I don't know but if

> people are depressed and suicidal to begin with (duh!) then what

> these drugs seem to do is supress any natural tendency to 'not act'

> on certain impulses.

>

> So I wouldn't say that they make people more suicidal. I would say

> that they make people much more impulsive and if one is suicidal to

> begin with then there's the connection!

>

> If anything, I would say these drugs lead to an increase in risk

> taking behaviors.