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Hi Joan,

Thanks for the advice, I will see the orthopedic who did a great job on

my tennis elbow years ago, and if he recommends surgery I will go for it. I

do seem to recall a story I heard awhile back about a physician with CTS,

who had the condition operated on 5 times before he realized he had LD. So

that leads me to believe that when one has LD surgery will not cure this

condition.

I am so sorry to hear Molly is so sick, and I will pray that it is only

something bad that she ate, I had a beagle once who ate rat poison, it was

awful but she did rally after an antidote was given.

Hugs,

Marta

-From: Namkrats3@... <Namkrats3@...>

>Hi Marta and Everybody,

>Glad to hear that you're still with us!

>My Vet had cts in both wrists from doing so many surgeries. A couple of

>years ago, she had surgery done for the cts using a new technique, and

>is doing fine. If you want more info, let me know.

>

>Speaking of the Vet...I saw her today under unfortunate circumstances.

>Our 9 yr-old Golden Retriever, Molly, is severely ill...we believe

>unrelated to her LD. She has been violently vomiting for 2 days. Vet

>took bloods and gave her fluids, compazine and abx injections. I didn't

>want to leave her in the animal hospital with no one to watch her over

>the weekend, so I brought her home and my daughter and I will give her

>the fluids and abx injections. We think that she ate something nasty

>outside and are hoping that that is all it is....She is a sweetie, and

>needs our prayers.

>

>

>Thanks,

>Joan LI NY

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Hi Bernadette,

Thanks for the offer but I will go to the orthopedic and get new ones

made to fit my hands. The worse one is the right, but the left can act up

too. EMG studies last year showed CTS in both hands, and recommendation was

made for splints by my neurologist. I just put it off like everything else,

I am queen of procrastinators I guess. Best to go to the orthopedic I

guess, maybe he will give me one cortisone shot in the right one for relief,

I don't think that will be too awful for my Lyme disease.

Hugs and thanks,

Marta

From: BratDet@... <BratDet@...>

>is it left or right hand? I have a wrist brace i slept with till my

thyroid

>was under control...mine was left..keeping the hand in a functional

>position...ket the nerve from being compressed and eliminated the numbness

>and pain

>.I can mail it to you...i slept with it ...it was great to use...enabled me

>to sleep..if it is right...you can go to a medical supply store and get one

>for less than 20$ b

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Hi Joan,

Thanks for the advice, I will see the orthopedic who did a great job on

my tennis elbow years ago, and if he recommends surgery I will go for it. I

do seem to recall a story I heard awhile back about a physician with CTS,

who had the condition operated on 5 times before he realized he had LD. So

that leads me to believe that when one has LD surgery will not cure this

condition.

I am so sorry to hear Molly is so sick, and I will pray that it is only

something bad that she ate, I had a beagle once who ate rat poison, it was

awful but she did rally after an antidote was given.

Hugs,

Marta

-From: Namkrats3@... <Namkrats3@...>

>Hi Marta and Everybody,

>Glad to hear that you're still with us!

>My Vet had cts in both wrists from doing so many surgeries. A couple of

>years ago, she had surgery done for the cts using a new technique, and

>is doing fine. If you want more info, let me know.

>

>Speaking of the Vet...I saw her today under unfortunate circumstances.

>Our 9 yr-old Golden Retriever, Molly, is severely ill...we believe

>unrelated to her LD. She has been violently vomiting for 2 days. Vet

>took bloods and gave her fluids, compazine and abx injections. I didn't

>want to leave her in the animal hospital with no one to watch her over

>the weekend, so I brought her home and my daughter and I will give her

>the fluids and abx injections. We think that she ate something nasty

>outside and are hoping that that is all it is....She is a sweetie, and

>needs our prayers.

>

>

>Thanks,

>Joan LI NY

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Hi beth,

Good advice, I am sure the Herniated discs I have at C4-5-6 & 7 have lots

to do with the CTS condition. I do take 1800mg of Neurontin daily now for

nerve pain and maybe I need to raise the dose, I think maximum is 2700mg.

Now to find a shiatsu practitioner, does your sister know of any in Southern

NJ???

Thanks again,

Marta

From: beth C. Kirk <lisaboo@...>

>

>

>Hi, marta. You may already be familiar with Neurontin - I actually have

>been using it for whiplash related injuries, but it's prescribed for

>neurologic symptoms - in particular the pain and numbness. Also, my sister

>( the one who's got the lyme) is a shiatsu practitioner, and carpel tunnel

>is one of the conditions she treats on a regular basis. I'd really

>recommend checking out some form of alternative therapy before you even

>consider the surgery. She's actually here visiting for a change, and wants

>me to quote her on her treatment methods:

>

> " Carpel tunnel is extremely easy to treat. Usually there's intense muscle

>tension in the upper back between the scapulas. Doing deep massage there as

>well as on the forearms and wrists is the technique that has been 100%

>effective in my practice. "

>

>Hope that helps,

>beth

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Morning Ya'll,

I have CTS in left hand, most like in right also but that side has not

been tested yet. I also have damage at c5-6-7, guess it IS a lyme thing. I

have the understanding that when the Surgeon 'fixes' me, he will use

titanium discs and not my hip bone or donor bone, but I have not seen him

yet this is just what my LLMD and I talked about. I also have, at times,

excruciating pain in my shoulder blades, always put that off as working to

much and too hard, but that was before my LD dx. I attribute my CTS in left

hand to Lyme, I am right handed and really only type (rarely before LD) with

left hand. Someone sent me a whole bunch of links about the neck surgury a

while back, but i had a puter crash and have lost it all, (whoever sent it,

i would love for you to resend ) Have a great day! Pepi

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hi...i wanted to input into the concerns of CTS.....before i knew i had lyme

disease...

4+ years...undiagnosed.....i worked in the movie industry in animation as a

digital artist...

over time i became debiltitated little by little til i had to stop work

entirely.

Thought i had RSI, CTD, CTS...bulding herniated dics....c5,6,7 and 4 lumbar

disc...tentedititis, bursitis...on and on....NOW I KNOW THE SYMPTOMS WERE

'CAUSED' BY LYME " ....

i ran from the orthopeditist who wanted to remove 8 discs... " i don't

think so, doc " ....my problems are not mechanical in origin...though i

presented moto-retardation...a term use to discribe me in my psychiatric MD

reports...

and in regards to CTS..carpel tunnel syndrome.....my stupid 'rheumy' gave

me corstisone shots into the carpel tunnel....some relief was obtained....

but my hands and wrists hurt soo bad after ANY repeitive anything....that

i at the tiem did'nut understand....my hands and wrists swelled , hurt like a

mother and i couln't even use them for a couple of months...thus with my

recent Jan 2000 lyme

diagnoses...IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW....

my hands/wrists were going thru a special effect of warping and morphing

eventually into 'lyme arthritis " ...yep this is waht was really going

on....arthritis....

swoolen knukeles 'obviuoly' show it...and the rheuamtoid arthritis blood was

NEG....

this stuff is lyme doing the damage....

i thank GOD...i never got 'mechcanical' surgical FIXES...when the

underlying cause is lyme...i believe this is why many surgeries are not

successful...if one does 'surgery' and doesn't get rid of the lyme...it would

only logically continue.....

i am not saying that mechanical damage does not occur....or happen....but

i would surely try to get rid of the lyme and infection that is causing this

....before any surgeries....

cheryl in L.A.

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in regards to CTS and 'wrist' splint(wrist guard with a hard splint).....TRUE

FIT...made of polyurithen and velcro...kinda like wetsuit material..you can

buy them at the drug store in the aisle where knees guards...back braces and

WRIST GUARDS...$15 for each a right hand and left..$30+ total....very

comfortable and effective.....

when i was unable to use my hands at all for a couple months...i wore

these daily and slept with them on for 3 weeks minimum....it helped

tremendiuosly with NO

surgery....at all......

cheryl

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marta i know someone to ...give me a few days i will finsd out for u ....we

are busy wifes grandpa died and we wioll be running the next 2 days....Reid

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Hi Marta..

Just be careful when buying the magnets..I know there are a lot of cheap

imitation ones out there, that you may as well use for refrigerator maganets!

The original ones were Nikken..quite expensive though in comparison to others

but I have seen demonstrations of how they work & know people that had great

success with them.

There are other brands that must be good also, I just don't know how you

would know. Our local golf shop also sells a particular brand...I would

think they must come with some guarantee of satisfaction.

Good luck...I hope you can find some relief between them & the splints.

Take care..

Deb

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marta i know someone to ...give me a few days i will finsd out for u ....we

are busy wifes grandpa died and we wioll be running the next 2 days....Reid

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Thanks so much Cheryl,

I will look for them at the drug store, they sound like they could help

a lot, maybe I will skip that cortisone shot and trip to the orthopedic. I

am just so sick to death of new doctors.

Hugs,

Marta

From: CherylMcQ@... <CherylMcQ@...>

>in regards to CTS and 'wrist' splint(wrist guard with a hard

splint).....TRUE

>FIT...made of polyurithen and velcro...kinda like wetsuit material..you can

>buy them at the drug store in the aisle where knees guards...back braces

and

>WRIST GUARDS...$15 for each a right hand and left..$30+ total....very

>comfortable and effective.....

> when i was unable to use my hands at all for a couple months...i wore

>these daily and slept with them on for 3 weeks minimum....it helped

>tremendiuosly with NO

>surgery....at all......

>cheryl

>

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Thanks Deb,

I was thinking of using refrig magnets till I could find the real thing.

I bet the ones in a golf shop will cost a fortune! My cousin knows of

someone who sells the magnets, I will check with her.

Thanks again,

Marta

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From: cbreeze07@... <cbreeze07@...>

>Hi Marta..

>

>Just be careful when buying the magnets..I know there are a lot of cheap

>imitation ones out there, that you may as well use for refrigerator

maganets!

>The original ones were Nikken..quite expensive though in comparison to

others

>but I have seen demonstrations of how they work & know people that had

great

>success with them.

>There are other brands that must be good also, I just don't know how you

>would know. Our local golf shop also sells a particular brand...I would

>think they must come with some guarantee of satisfaction.

>Good luck...I hope you can find some relief between them & the splints.

>

>Take care..

>Deb

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  • 1 year later...

FYI! MM / NSIFI am forwarding this (unedited) on behalf of Pam.

Surprised that CTS falls under Plastic Surgery Procedures.

FYI and FWIW

J

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: We Have Been Targeted

Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:56:03 -0400

From: "Pam Young" <reply via Ilena ilena@... >

jwootton@...

Dear Jean:

Please go to http://www.freeweb.pdq.net/sueolexa/RTC/

This is the "Right to Choose" Platform Mentality page. It lists

documents showing how the American Society of Plastic & Reconstructive Surgeons (ASPRS) plotted to fund women's groups who had the "Right to Choose" platform. It was cheaper for the Plastic Surgeons to give money to

women's groups to keep implants on the market, than it was for the ASPRS to

legally battle the FDA over Silicone Implants. This drove a wedge between women.

These letters are dated around 1992. IF you check the plastic surgery statistics http://www.plasticsurgery.org/mediactr/totalrec99a.htm, you

will see that there was a 180 percent increase in breast reconstructions

between 1992 and 1999. The ASPRS targeted breast cancer patients as a market for their surgeries, in 1990.

In a November 9, 1990 memo from Ann Woodbury (ASPRS) to Gauger (Dow, makers of implants), Ms. Woodbury states: "With 88,000 new cases

of breast cancer occurring in white women per year in the United States and with mastectomy being the most common first therapy, the reconstructive field would appear to be a major potential market."

We are a marketing target. The plastic surgeons have made the Federal

Law forcing insurance companies to pay for implants & tissue flaps, now they

sit back and wait for 200,000 American women per year to get breast cancer,

so they can make money off of injuring us. But, they don't have any

government epidemiological studies to prove the safety of these surgeries for

breast cancer patients, or anyone else.

Dr. Korentager, http://www.plasticsurgery.org/profinfo/psu/psuwin95/psuw96.htm, states

that "It is, therefore, the job of physicians and plastic surgeons not only

to anatomically reconstruct the breast mound, but to help patients

under-stand that contemplating breast reconstruction is wholesome and natural, and

is an integral part of breast cancer treatment."

Now the plastic surgeons are working in the field of Oncology, even

though they have no credentials to do so, and they are telling us that plastic surgery is natural and a cancer treatment! They don't tell you that this reconstruction stresses an already overtaxed immune system, or that reconstruction can spread cancer cells to other parts of a woman's body,

or that reconstruction can delay adjuvant therapy.

Plastic Surgeons don't care about any government safety studies that

should have been done before these surgeries were made available for all women. They are oncologists, and they don't care if your immune system is

overtaxed and you get sick and become disabled. They care about getting their insurance money.

If there are any plastic surgeons that DO CARE, why aren't they out campaigning for laws that bring "informed consent"? Why aren't they

started a new organization of Plastic Surgeons which are ethical?

We must educate our sisters and the public about the complications of

these disabling surgeries which are lies--these surgeries do not produce the beautiful breast that plastic surgeons lead us to believe. We must try

to work with our legislators to create laws which protect women from injury

by requiring strict "informed consent" guidelines.

Thanks, Pam Young.

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