Re: Re: The CDC is watching--Dawn--(Contact info on these morons?)

February 3, 2009

Having been around for six decades, I have observed and experienced government and mainstream bureaucratic balderdash up and down the wazoo, so please excuse the cynicism and skepticism: Does anyone know of any government or "mainstream" Agency, Association or Organization that has not already been bought off; is proactive rather than reactive; that will give straight answers without spewing the so-called "party line/company policy," or is responsive rather than totally unresponsive??? If so, I'd very much appreciate knowing about it/them!!! ~~ Ruth

Vaccine Safety Research> > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> PO BOX 4201> polis, MD 21403> > CDC - vaccinesafetyRFI@ hhs.gov> Re: Vaccine Safety> > January 28. 2008> > Dear CDC,> I am writing you concerning vaccine safety. There is an expression, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Before my child was born concerns regarding vaccines did not come up. It was only after that I wanted to learn more that what I was told in my 10 minute Doctors appointment and a flyer they gave me about the diseases and vaccines. > By law, as stated on your website,"Parents must be informed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that parents should be fully informed about the risks and benefits of vaccination by talking to a trusted health care provider. By law, parents, guardians, or patients must be given information in writing about the risks and benefits of vaccination before a vaccine is administered. " A single piece of paper is not informed consent and in many cases is given to parents after their children are injected.> > > > I was amazed to look back at my vaccine records and what you are recommending each child to get now.> > In 1974 I was given 6 doses of 4 vaccines before I was 4 years old. That is it. Today children are given 69 doses before 18, 48 doses before 6. My daughter had 22 doses by 6 months. We are overdosing our children in the name of public health, yet in general their health today is worse.> > > > Parents all over the country are loosing trust in the establishments motivation and intent to safeguard public health. Something needs to be done and the CDC and other organizations need to stop dragging its feet. It is time to do the right thing.> > > > -Vaccine Safety research must be taken away from all government agencies and other entities with special interests. There needs to be unbiased independent studies. Currently vaccines are not compared to a control group ever. The only thing close is the Amish population.> > > > -Any ethical and legally sufficient vaccine safety agenda must begin with a comprehensive and ongoing review of the health outcomes of fully vaccinated verses unvaccinated children, both prospectively and retrospectively. There is nothing about this in the CDC draft agenda. Only with such a study can the > costs of both acute and chronic vaccine-caused disease be compared with the benefits of preventable disease. If problems are found, further studies would be conducted focused on how to fix vaccines, the schedule, screening for susceptibility. The vaccination schedule cannot be one size fits> all.> > > -The debate over safety is not "parents verses science," but CDC's willful failure to conduct required safety studies and instead its deliberate manufacture of flawed studies designed to clear vaccines. Parents that choose to be selective, delay or not vaccinate at all are some of the most educated people on the topic and are choosing to do what is best for their children based on their individual family health history and circumstances.> -No more forced drugging. No more mandates. The CDC should give information on what is available in regard to vaccinations, but not force it. People have the right to choose what medical interventions they believe are best for them. People seek out Doctors to consult with not scare them. Doctors need to be more informed and educated on the topic as well. The belief system of vaccinations is flawed and the overdosing of our children is malpractice.> -The US mandates more vaccinations than any other country in the world. Yet our state of health is in decline. 1 out of 2 Americans suffers from a chronic health condition. Are vaccinations solely to blame, no. However, with the known side effects to vaccination and the amount now given to our children and more being targeted to adolescents and adults begs the question; Have we traded diseases for chronic health conditions?> - Vaccinations only give temporary immunity at best and are not 100% safe or effective. This is a fact.> - Offer alternatives to disease prevention that do not have deathly or detrimental side effects. Education and options are a powerful thing. Clean water, healthy non-processed and non-GMO foods, sanitation, alternative medicines etc.> > We hope that very soon the CDC and other organizations will see that mass vaccination is not the magic drug for public health. We urge you to take expedited action on this issue to benefit the overall health of the American people, especially our children.> > > Respectfully,> > > Cassandra Alls> land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> Founder and Parent> *****> > > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> > Educate Before You Vaccinate.> > http://mdvaccinecho ice.wordpress. com> > > > >

February 3, 2009

Having been around for six decades, I have observed and experienced government and mainstream bureaucratic balderdash up and down the wazoo, so please excuse the cynicism and skepticism: Does anyone know of any government or "mainstream" Agency, Association or Organization that has not already been bought off; is proactive rather than reactive; that will give straight answers without spewing the so-called "party line/company policy," or is responsive rather than totally unresponsive??? If so, I'd very much appreciate knowing about it/them!!! ~~ Ruth

Vaccine Safety Research> > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> PO BOX 4201> polis, MD 21403> > CDC - vaccinesafetyRFI@ hhs.gov> Re: Vaccine Safety> > January 28. 2008> > Dear CDC,> I am writing you concerning vaccine safety. There is an expression, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Before my child was born concerns regarding vaccines did not come up. It was only after that I wanted to learn more that what I was told in my 10 minute Doctors appointment and a flyer they gave me about the diseases and vaccines. > By law, as stated on your website,"Parents must be informed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that parents should be fully informed about the risks and benefits of vaccination by talking to a trusted health care provider. By law, parents, guardians, or patients must be given information in writing about the risks and benefits of vaccination before a vaccine is administered. " A single piece of paper is not informed consent and in many cases is given to parents after their children are injected.> > > > I was amazed to look back at my vaccine records and what you are recommending each child to get now.> > In 1974 I was given 6 doses of 4 vaccines before I was 4 years old. That is it. Today children are given 69 doses before 18, 48 doses before 6. My daughter had 22 doses by 6 months. We are overdosing our children in the name of public health, yet in general their health today is worse.> > > > Parents all over the country are loosing trust in the establishments motivation and intent to safeguard public health. Something needs to be done and the CDC and other organizations need to stop dragging its feet. It is time to do the right thing.> > > > -Vaccine Safety research must be taken away from all government agencies and other entities with special interests. There needs to be unbiased independent studies. Currently vaccines are not compared to a control group ever. The only thing close is the Amish population.> > > > -Any ethical and legally sufficient vaccine safety agenda must begin with a comprehensive and ongoing review of the health outcomes of fully vaccinated verses unvaccinated children, both prospectively and retrospectively. There is nothing about this in the CDC draft agenda. Only with such a study can the > costs of both acute and chronic vaccine-caused disease be compared with the benefits of preventable disease. If problems are found, further studies would be conducted focused on how to fix vaccines, the schedule, screening for susceptibility. The vaccination schedule cannot be one size fits> all.> > > -The debate over safety is not "parents verses science," but CDC's willful failure to conduct required safety studies and instead its deliberate manufacture of flawed studies designed to clear vaccines. Parents that choose to be selective, delay or not vaccinate at all are some of the most educated people on the topic and are choosing to do what is best for their children based on their individual family health history and circumstances.> -No more forced drugging. No more mandates. The CDC should give information on what is available in regard to vaccinations, but not force it. People have the right to choose what medical interventions they believe are best for them. People seek out Doctors to consult with not scare them. Doctors need to be more informed and educated on the topic as well. The belief system of vaccinations is flawed and the overdosing of our children is malpractice.> -The US mandates more vaccinations than any other country in the world. Yet our state of health is in decline. 1 out of 2 Americans suffers from a chronic health condition. Are vaccinations solely to blame, no. However, with the known side effects to vaccination and the amount now given to our children and more being targeted to adolescents and adults begs the question; Have we traded diseases for chronic health conditions?> - Vaccinations only give temporary immunity at best and are not 100% safe or effective. This is a fact.> - Offer alternatives to disease prevention that do not have deathly or detrimental side effects. Education and options are a powerful thing. Clean water, healthy non-processed and non-GMO foods, sanitation, alternative medicines etc.> > We hope that very soon the CDC and other organizations will see that mass vaccination is not the magic drug for public health. We urge you to take expedited action on this issue to benefit the overall health of the American people, especially our children.> > > Respectfully,> > > Cassandra Alls> land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> Founder and Parent> *****> > > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> > Educate Before You Vaccinate.> > http://mdvaccinecho ice.wordpress. com> > > > >

February 3, 2009

Having been around for six decades, I have observed and experienced government and mainstream bureaucratic balderdash up and down the wazoo, so please excuse the cynicism and skepticism: Does anyone know of any government or "mainstream" Agency, Association or Organization that has not already been bought off; is proactive rather than reactive; that will give straight answers without spewing the so-called "party line/company policy," or is responsive rather than totally unresponsive??? If so, I'd very much appreciate knowing about it/them!!! ~~ Ruth

Vaccine Safety Research> > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> PO BOX 4201> polis, MD 21403> > CDC - vaccinesafetyRFI@ hhs.gov> Re: Vaccine Safety> > January 28. 2008> > Dear CDC,> I am writing you concerning vaccine safety. There is an expression, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Before my child was born concerns regarding vaccines did not come up. It was only after that I wanted to learn more that what I was told in my 10 minute Doctors appointment and a flyer they gave me about the diseases and vaccines. > By law, as stated on your website,"Parents must be informed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that parents should be fully informed about the risks and benefits of vaccination by talking to a trusted health care provider. By law, parents, guardians, or patients must be given information in writing about the risks and benefits of vaccination before a vaccine is administered. " A single piece of paper is not informed consent and in many cases is given to parents after their children are injected.> > > > I was amazed to look back at my vaccine records and what you are recommending each child to get now.> > In 1974 I was given 6 doses of 4 vaccines before I was 4 years old. That is it. Today children are given 69 doses before 18, 48 doses before 6. My daughter had 22 doses by 6 months. We are overdosing our children in the name of public health, yet in general their health today is worse.> > > > Parents all over the country are loosing trust in the establishments motivation and intent to safeguard public health. Something needs to be done and the CDC and other organizations need to stop dragging its feet. It is time to do the right thing.> > > > -Vaccine Safety research must be taken away from all government agencies and other entities with special interests. There needs to be unbiased independent studies. Currently vaccines are not compared to a control group ever. The only thing close is the Amish population.> > > > -Any ethical and legally sufficient vaccine safety agenda must begin with a comprehensive and ongoing review of the health outcomes of fully vaccinated verses unvaccinated children, both prospectively and retrospectively. There is nothing about this in the CDC draft agenda. Only with such a study can the > costs of both acute and chronic vaccine-caused disease be compared with the benefits of preventable disease. If problems are found, further studies would be conducted focused on how to fix vaccines, the schedule, screening for susceptibility. The vaccination schedule cannot be one size fits> all.> > > -The debate over safety is not "parents verses science," but CDC's willful failure to conduct required safety studies and instead its deliberate manufacture of flawed studies designed to clear vaccines. Parents that choose to be selective, delay or not vaccinate at all are some of the most educated people on the topic and are choosing to do what is best for their children based on their individual family health history and circumstances.> -No more forced drugging. No more mandates. The CDC should give information on what is available in regard to vaccinations, but not force it. People have the right to choose what medical interventions they believe are best for them. People seek out Doctors to consult with not scare them. Doctors need to be more informed and educated on the topic as well. The belief system of vaccinations is flawed and the overdosing of our children is malpractice.> -The US mandates more vaccinations than any other country in the world. Yet our state of health is in decline. 1 out of 2 Americans suffers from a chronic health condition. Are vaccinations solely to blame, no. However, with the known side effects to vaccination and the amount now given to our children and more being targeted to adolescents and adults begs the question; Have we traded diseases for chronic health conditions?> - Vaccinations only give temporary immunity at best and are not 100% safe or effective. This is a fact.> - Offer alternatives to disease prevention that do not have deathly or detrimental side effects. Education and options are a powerful thing. Clean water, healthy non-processed and non-GMO foods, sanitation, alternative medicines etc.> > We hope that very soon the CDC and other organizations will see that mass vaccination is not the magic drug for public health. We urge you to take expedited action on this issue to benefit the overall health of the American people, especially our children.> > > Respectfully,> > > Cassandra Alls> land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> Founder and Parent> *****> > > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> > Educate Before You Vaccinate.> > http://mdvaccinecho ice.wordpress. com> > > > >

February 3, 2009

Having been around for six decades, I have observed and experienced government and mainstream bureaucratic balderdash up and down the wazoo, so please excuse the cynicism and skepticism: Does anyone know of any government or "mainstream" Agency, Association or Organization that has not already been bought off; is proactive rather than reactive; that will give straight answers without spewing the so-called "party line/company policy," or is responsive rather than totally unresponsive??? If so, I'd very much appreciate knowing about it/them!!! ~~ Ruth

Vaccine Safety Research> > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> PO BOX 4201> polis, MD 21403> > CDC - vaccinesafetyRFI@ hhs.gov> Re: Vaccine Safety> > January 28. 2008> > Dear CDC,> I am writing you concerning vaccine safety. There is an expression, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Before my child was born concerns regarding vaccines did not come up. It was only after that I wanted to learn more that what I was told in my 10 minute Doctors appointment and a flyer they gave me about the diseases and vaccines. > By law, as stated on your website,"Parents must be informed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that parents should be fully informed about the risks and benefits of vaccination by talking to a trusted health care provider. By law, parents, guardians, or patients must be given information in writing about the risks and benefits of vaccination before a vaccine is administered. " A single piece of paper is not informed consent and in many cases is given to parents after their children are injected.> > > > I was amazed to look back at my vaccine records and what you are recommending each child to get now.> > In 1974 I was given 6 doses of 4 vaccines before I was 4 years old. That is it. Today children are given 69 doses before 18, 48 doses before 6. My daughter had 22 doses by 6 months. We are overdosing our children in the name of public health, yet in general their health today is worse.> > > > Parents all over the country are loosing trust in the establishments motivation and intent to safeguard public health. Something needs to be done and the CDC and other organizations need to stop dragging its feet. It is time to do the right thing.> > > > -Vaccine Safety research must be taken away from all government agencies and other entities with special interests. There needs to be unbiased independent studies. Currently vaccines are not compared to a control group ever. The only thing close is the Amish population.> > > > -Any ethical and legally sufficient vaccine safety agenda must begin with a comprehensive and ongoing review of the health outcomes of fully vaccinated verses unvaccinated children, both prospectively and retrospectively. There is nothing about this in the CDC draft agenda. Only with such a study can the > costs of both acute and chronic vaccine-caused disease be compared with the benefits of preventable disease. If problems are found, further studies would be conducted focused on how to fix vaccines, the schedule, screening for susceptibility. The vaccination schedule cannot be one size fits> all.> > > -The debate over safety is not "parents verses science," but CDC's willful failure to conduct required safety studies and instead its deliberate manufacture of flawed studies designed to clear vaccines. Parents that choose to be selective, delay or not vaccinate at all are some of the most educated people on the topic and are choosing to do what is best for their children based on their individual family health history and circumstances.> -No more forced drugging. No more mandates. The CDC should give information on what is available in regard to vaccinations, but not force it. People have the right to choose what medical interventions they believe are best for them. People seek out Doctors to consult with not scare them. Doctors need to be more informed and educated on the topic as well. The belief system of vaccinations is flawed and the overdosing of our children is malpractice.> -The US mandates more vaccinations than any other country in the world. Yet our state of health is in decline. 1 out of 2 Americans suffers from a chronic health condition. Are vaccinations solely to blame, no. However, with the known side effects to vaccination and the amount now given to our children and more being targeted to adolescents and adults begs the question; Have we traded diseases for chronic health conditions?> - Vaccinations only give temporary immunity at best and are not 100% safe or effective. This is a fact.> - Offer alternatives to disease prevention that do not have deathly or detrimental side effects. Education and options are a powerful thing. Clean water, healthy non-processed and non-GMO foods, sanitation, alternative medicines etc.> > We hope that very soon the CDC and other organizations will see that mass vaccination is not the magic drug for public health. We urge you to take expedited action on this issue to benefit the overall health of the American people, especially our children.> > > Respectfully,> > > Cassandra Alls> land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> Founder and Parent> *****> > > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> > Educate Before You Vaccinate.> > http://mdvaccinecho ice.wordpress. com> > > > >

February 3, 2009

Six decades for me, too. But I used to work for the gummint, one year out of grad school, fired for refusing to knuckle under to threats to help embezzle (not sure, I think about $300,000) - I got tagged because I wasn't feeling well and said I thought I was suffering from mercury poisoning - they used an MD statement to help get me fired behind my back. I know, several felonies in there... that was the SCS, now the DNRS, 1981, Montana. Not a bit different wherever you go, I suppose.... it wasn't until 2005 and the whole family was sick that I finally figured out the source of the problem was amalgams and vaccines... If it's the gummint, they're also up to their necks in kinky sex, booze and rec drugs, really a tightly knit group. Not likely you'll get any sincere response from Uncle Scam. So, now I have a website... --- On

Tue, 2/3/09, putney1963@... <putney1963@...> wrote:

From: putney1963@... <putney1963@...>Subject: Re: Re: The CDC is watching--Dawn--(Contact info on these morons?)no-forced-vaccination Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 8:50 AM

Having been around for six decades, I have observed and experienced government and mainstream bureaucratic balderdash up and down the wazoo, so please excuse the cynicism and skepticism: Does anyone know of any government or "mainstream" Agency, Association or Organization that has not already been bought off; is proactive rather than reactive; that will give straight answers without spewing the so-called "party line/company policy," or is responsive rather than totally unresponsive? ?? If so, I'd very much appreciate knowing about it/them!!! ~~ Ruth

Vaccine Safety Research> > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> PO BOX 4201> polis, MD 21403> > CDC - vaccinesafetyRFI@ hhs.gov> Re: Vaccine Safety> > January 28. 2008> > Dear CDC,> I am writing you concerning vaccine safety. There is an expression, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Before my child was born concerns regarding vaccines did not come up. It was only after that I wanted to learn more that what I was told in my 10 minute Doctors appointment and a flyer they gave me about the diseases and vaccines. > By law, as stated on your website,"Parents must be informed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention believes that parents

should be fully informed about the risks and benefits of vaccination by talking to a trusted health care provider. By law, parents, guardians, or patients must be given information in writing about the risks and benefits of vaccination before a vaccine is administered. " A single piece of paper is not informed consent and in many cases is given to parents after their children are injected.> > > > I was amazed to look back at my vaccine records and what you are recommending each child to get now.> > In 1974 I was given 6 doses of 4 vaccines before I was 4 years old. That is it. Today children are given 69 doses before 18, 48 doses before 6. My daughter had 22 doses by 6 months. We are overdosing our children in the name of public health, yet in general their health today is worse.> > > > Parents all over the country are

loosing trust in the establishments motivation and intent to safeguard public health. Something needs to be done and the CDC and other organizations need to stop dragging its feet. It is time to do the right thing.> > > > -Vaccine Safety research must be taken away from all government agencies and other entities with special interests. There needs to be unbiased independent studies. Currently vaccines are not compared to a control group ever. The only thing close is the Amish population.> > > > -Any ethical and legally sufficient vaccine safety agenda must begin with a comprehensive and ongoing review of the health outcomes of fully vaccinated verses unvaccinated children, both prospectively and retrospectively. There is nothing about this in the CDC draft agenda. Only with such a study can the > costs of both acute

and chronic vaccine-caused disease be compared with the benefits of preventable disease. If problems are found, further studies would be conducted focused on how to fix vaccines, the schedule, screening for susceptibility. The vaccination schedule cannot be one size fits> all.> > > -The debate over safety is not "parents verses science," but CDC's willful failure to conduct required safety studies and instead its deliberate manufacture of flawed studies designed to clear vaccines. Parents that choose to be selective, delay or not vaccinate at all are some of the most educated people on the topic and are choosing to do what is best for their children based on their individual family health history and circumstances.> -No more forced drugging. No more mandates. The CDC should give information on what is available in regard to vaccinations, but not force

it. People have the right to choose what medical interventions they believe are best for them. People seek out Doctors to consult with not scare them. Doctors need to be more informed and educated on the topic as well. The belief system of vaccinations is flawed and the overdosing of our children is malpractice.> -The US mandates more vaccinations than any other country in the world. Yet our state of health is in decline. 1 out of 2 Americans suffers from a chronic health condition. Are vaccinations solely to blame, no. However, with the known side effects to vaccination and the amount now given to our children and more being targeted to adolescents and adults begs the question; Have we traded diseases for chronic health conditions?> - Vaccinations only give temporary immunity at best and are not 100% safe or effective. This is a fact.> - Offer

alternatives to disease prevention that do not have deathly or detrimental side effects. Education and options are a powerful thing. Clean water, healthy non-processed and non-GMO foods, sanitation, alternative medicines etc.> > We hope that very soon the CDC and other organizations will see that mass vaccination is not the magic drug for public health. We urge you to take expedited action on this issue to benefit the overall health of the American people, especially our children.> > > Respectfully,> > > Cassandra Alls> land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> Founder and Parent> *****> > > land Coalition for Vaccine Choice> > Educate Before You Vaccinate.> > http://mdvaccinecho ice.wordpress. com>

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February 3, 2009