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Grady,

Thanks for the laughs you have given me today.

I thought you would get more help with your hair problem. I have a couple

of suggestions: There are lovely hairnets that you could wear when you go

to bed. They come in most hair colors. They also have sleep bonnets that

we who use to sleep in rollers wore to keep them in place.

Another suggestion is to wrap your head in toilet paper and fasten it with a

bobbi pin.

doilies made out of Skunk hair using only 'tooth picks' as knitting

needles? To be used on our tables for when we entertain big people

with our very own short-bread cookies. Any ideas? Any well used and

I would be interested in a set of these but I would only want the white

hairs of the skunk!Good Luck on your business!

Kathy

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Deanna -

Yes...! We have started Jacqui on enzymes (to break down peptides) and we have

been seeing some very interesting results.

The amazing thing to us was when she missed a day (after only taking tem about

1 1/2 weeks), we could clearly see a difference.

She is now on them twice a day (w/ lunch and dinner) and we are trying to get

her up to 3 times a day.

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Penny - how many do you give her with each meal? Back in February I

started B on Serenaid which has both a protease and a peptidase

enzyme in it. We saw disastrous effects. She went from being fairly

calm and reasonable (effects of the CLO were showing- and we were

thrilled)to hyper, screaming, noise making, echolalia, babbling etc.

I couldn't stand it and took her off after 2.5 weeks. They do say

you will see regression at first but it was just to much for us after

the great stuff we were seeing with the CLO. I have wondered since

if I started her out at to high a dose (gave her to many ). Just

recently I have started using them if we go to a restaurant, just in

case, but I only give her one. She learned to take pills when I

started occasionally giving her Melatonin. I pill her about the same

way I used to pill dogs and cats when I was a vet tech. Now she asks

me to help her(put it toward the back of her tongue). I have heard

that some people try 3 or 4 enzymes before they find the one that

works for their child. I have also heard good things about Peptizide.

(sp?) Interesting stuff...glad you've found something that is

showing a difference. Have you ever tried B6?

Deanna

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Deanna -

Right now we give her one per meal (one at lunch, one at dinner). We open the

capsule and mix it with her food. Sorry you had those results with Bridget :-(

That would discourage me too...

I haven't tried B6, but I do want to start her on B6 & magnesium....just

not sure how to go about it yet and at what dosage...

It's next on my list :-)

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" If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. " --Henry Thoreau

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I occasionally give Haylee a break from supplements too. Not sure what my

reasoning is. Guess I get sick of handing them out every day. I also worry

because she only has one kidney that the supplements may be hard on it.

Dawn

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>Reply-Autism_in_Girls

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>Subject: Just wondering...

>Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 00:14:32 -0000

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>I took a break, or should I say, gave Bridget a break from taking her

>supplements. She had done really well for a couple of weeks and then

>I thought she seemed a little listless, less able to think clearly

>etc. So...a couple of days ago I started her back on CLO and flax

>oil. I have seen another jump in conversational language, her

>ability to express herself, and her sociability and joint attention.

>Seems like if I watch her I can tell when she needs stuff and then

>again when she doesn't. Have other people noticed this with their

>children? I'm waiting for Spectrum Support II to come from

>BrainChild Nutritionals and I'm hoping that it does well for us.

>I'll also start giving her NightCal. Thanks, Deanna

>

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Deanna -

If by " the list " you mean everything we research that we think will

help our kids..then yep, I do...But what choice do we have, right?

Is that what you meant?

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I haven't tried B6, but I do want to start her on B6

& magnesium....just not sure how to go about it yet and at what dosage...

It's next on my list :-)

You can get this from Kirkman Labs in Oregon. They make a supplement

specifically for autistic spectrum individuals called SuperNu Thera. It is glutton and casein free and they

give you the dosage.

Valeri

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Hello Ursula,

What does the DDAVP do? I have only heard of it's use for clotting factor

deficiency before surgery. I know that for this particular use, it is only

effective one time. I have never know what else it is used for, so thanks!

Sandi--Mom to , age 8. Suspected IgA def., Tetrology of Falot, chronic

sinusitis, chronic ear infections (with tubes), severe allergies. Nine

surgeries, one pending.

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Macey is still incontinent at night but it has to do

with her Diabetes Insipidus. She takes DDAVP but it

doesn't always work because of her sinuses being clogged

constantly. She wears a pull up at night and we've been

told that she may be like that forever.

Ursula

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DDAVP is the man-made version of a hormone that is produced in the hypothalamus

called ADH. ADH regulates how much you

excrete by your kidneys and it also plays a part in thirst. Without ADH you

become dehydrated and sodium is not

excreted causing renal failure. The DDAVP (ADH) allows Macey to not tinkle as

much (which translates into not as often)

and not to be thirsty all the time.

Ursula Holleman

Macey's mom (6 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, Sensory

Integration Disorder, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

http://maceyh.home.att.net

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Ursula, is the DDAVP a nasal spray? My step son (age 15, still

incontinent...yet his mother does nothing...long angry story!!) used the

nasal spray, I forget the name, while he was with us last year.

Although, the pediatrician said he would put Kody on a pill for it, but,

I don't know what it is. I'm sorry that Macey may not grow out of hers.

As if our children don't have enough to worry about! I can't get Kody to

wear a pull up, he is mortally offended at the mere suggestion. So we

have rubber sheets on the bed, and lots of extra bedding handy. At least

some of Kody's problem is his seizures, if he has seizure activity at

night he will lose control, however, those have been under control with

Depakote for a while now. He is doing well waiting until I tell him to

go potty today, but he still only lasts about an hour and 20 minutes.

But, hey, that is 5 minutes longer than yesterday!!

Diane

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In a message dated 1/16/02 4:00:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,

schmidtzoo@... writes:

> Does anyone else's child have a problem with bladder control? Kody still

> wets the bed,

YEs, does. He is 11 and I feel now we have a good handle on things.

Has Kody been to a pediatric urologist to rule out any obvious problems? I

would do that. They will do an ultra sound to check the bladder and kidney

functions. Also they do a flow test......they " pee into a cool machine " in

private. In extreme cases a urodynamics test is done..............lets just

say I pray no child has to go thru this! We had to because had lost all

control, day and night.

Here is 's story in a nutshell. He has always wet the bed. IT does not

run in the family. He used pull ups until he was 9 at night...his choice.....

... We use a water proof matress cover, it has a cloth top so you can't feel

or hear the plastic. Then we use a underpad between the cover and the

sheets. Its what the hospital uses. Then if there is an accident I just

change the sheets and throw away the " liner " .

has been seen at LPCH at Stanford by a urologist for three years. We

tried the DDvap pills and spray and it did nothing for us!!

I do not know if and it was never suggested to us that IVIG would cause this.

I'll have to ask next time we go in.

In third grade lost all control of bladder and bowel functions. It was

horrible. Amazingly enough what worked for us was a combination of two

things. After all the testing was done. ryan had an over actice bladder.

The doctor sent us to Bio Feedback at Stanford to help retrain nerves

and muscles to gain control. We went for 10 weeks and it worked!!! The

Doctor also put on Ditropan XL 15mg. twice a day.

is now dry during the day with an ocassional dampness (once a month).

We have gone from being wet every night to about twice a month. would

always be soaking wet at night.

With the Ditropan we had to find the right dose that worked. Also there are

two versions of

Ditropan.....one reg and one time release. The regular one caused blurred

vision in . We had much more succes with the XL , time release version.

He takes one in am and one at night.

I d really encourage a ped urologist,

Good luck

le

11, Selective Antibody Def., IVIG for 4 years, every 3 weeks.

Syringomyelia

6 surgeries in two years before being diagnosed: 4 sinus, tonsil and adenoids

removed, septic hip since IVIG 0 surgery needed!

Trailing off IVIG 6/28/01... Biopsy of throat and Nasal endoscopy 10/24/01

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uahollem@... writes:

> She takes DDAVP but it

> doesn't always work because of her sinuses being clogged

>

Ursula,

Have you tried Ditropan? It really made a difference for .

le

11, Selective Antibody Def., IVIG for 4 years, every 3 weeks.

Syringomyelia

6 surgeries in two years before being diagnosed: 4 sinus, tonsil and adenoids

removed, septic hip since IVIG 0 surgery needed!

Trailing off IVIG 6/28/01... Biopsy of throat and Nasal endoscopy 10/24/01

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In a message dated 1/16/02 10:27:53 AM Pacific Standard Time,

uahollem@... writes:

> She takes DDAVP but it

> doesn't always work because of her sinuses being clogged

>

Ursula,

Have you tried Ditropan? It really made a difference for .

le

11, Selective Antibody Def., IVIG for 4 years, every 3 weeks.

Syringomyelia

6 surgeries in two years before being diagnosed: 4 sinus, tonsil and adenoids

removed, septic hip since IVIG 0 surgery needed!

Trailing off IVIG 6/28/01... Biopsy of throat and Nasal endoscopy 10/24/01

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I believe Ditropan is an antispasmodic that keeps the bladder relaxed and not

urinating all the time. If we used that

then her hormone wouldn't be replaced and although she wouldn't be tinkling all

the time she still wouldn't have control

of her thirst sensation and would drink constantly. Too much drinking and too

little urinating and she'd be water

intoxicated. The DDAVP replaces the ADH not made and we seem to keep an even

keel.

thanks for the suggestion though.

Ursula Holleman

Macey's mom (6 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, Sensory

Integration Disorder, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

http://maceyh.home.att.net

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I believe Ditropan is an antispasmodic that keeps the bladder relaxed and not

urinating all the time. If we used that

then her hormone wouldn't be replaced and although she wouldn't be tinkling all

the time she still wouldn't have control

of her thirst sensation and would drink constantly. Too much drinking and too

little urinating and she'd be water

intoxicated. The DDAVP replaces the ADH not made and we seem to keep an even

keel.

thanks for the suggestion though.

Ursula Holleman

Macey's mom (6 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, Sensory

Integration Disorder, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic

inertia)

http://maceyh.home.att.net

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In a message dated 7/1/02 9:41:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

gtdeakin@... writes:

> What's with his WALKING obsession? When

> you have severe physical limitations like we do, not walking is the least of

> our worries ... in my opinion.

>

>

Oh I agree! ! I've never really dreamed of walking. Being able to cough yes!

Screaming yes! Itching my own nose yes! Holding my head up or biting/chewing

a BIG hamburger on a bun with the works yes!

If I was him I'd rather breathe or feel my body again than walk!

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In a message dated 7/1/02 9:14:34 PM Central Daylight Time,

nicoleroberts@... writes:

> What about darth vader???????? ;-)

uhm he was vented?

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I think the reason they try to get him up is so he wont atrophy/lose muscle

and get contractions. So when he's cured he can walk. I saw on TV a few years

ago he was boasting he still had muscles and they weren't tight. Uhm yea if I

was rich and famous I could get all the new treatments and trained nurses and

therapy.

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In a message dated 7/1/02 2:22:16 PM Central Daylight Time, DeTannous@...

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> . I know his main goal is

> to walk again but I was wondering how him walking would be possible if he's

>

if he can walk again i'm sure he'd breath again.... to walk his cord would be

repaired so would his ability to feel, breath, pee....more than likely.....

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In a message dated 7/1/02 10:21:13 PM Central Daylight Time,

eross@... writes:

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> Well he sure breathes funny.... sounds like a vent to me...

>

maybe he NEEDS one lol

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What about darth vader???????? ;-) lol!

On 7/1/02 2:20 PM, " DeTannous@... " <DeTannous@...> wrote:

> Hey everyone....

>

> I was just reading an article about a new tv show (a 3 part speical) that

> will document Reeve's attempts to walk. I know his main goal is

> to walk again but I was wondering how him walking would be possible if he's

> vented 24/7. I've never seen anyone in that situation not be in a wheelchair.

> Ahhh... Am I making any sense??

>

> Dee

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YEah Dee, its rather crazy in my opinion. im picturing him running around

with a vent strapped to his back. What's with his WALKING obsession? When

you have severe physical limitations like we do, not walking is the least of

our worries ... in my opinion.

Re: Just wondering...

What about darth vader???????? ;-) lol!

On 7/1/02 2:20 PM, " DeTannous@... " <DeTannous@...> wrote:

> Hey everyone....

>

> I was just reading an article about a new tv show (a 3 part speical) that

> will document Reeve's attempts to walk. I know his main goal

is

> to walk again but I was wondering how him walking would be possible if

he's

> vented 24/7. I've never seen anyone in that situation not be in a

wheelchair.

> Ahhh... Am I making any sense??

>

> Dee

>

>

>

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