Fw: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

[Guest guest]

From: " by way of ilena rose " <bonnie6@...>

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:31 AM

Subject: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

> Ilena, please pass this on.

>

> I just had a wonderful breakthrough with an old med. A

> local doctor, in Las Vegas, who is somewhat familiar

> with silicone related health problems sent me to a pain

> specialist who told me that he thought the best pain

> medicine by far for neurological problems is methadone.

> Yes, you heard me right; the methadone that is commonly

> used to help people ease off a drug addiction in re-hab

> centers. It is really just a pain pill.

>

> It just so happened that I took my first pill in a new

> script within a few minutes of when I heard of our

> nation, and our planet's terrible tragedy on 9/11/01.

>

> I certainly had legitimate reasons for feeling

> emotionally depressed, and I was over this insane

> tragedy, but at the same time, my health improved

> greatlty; it was like I was a new person. It lifted the

> horrible mental confusion and chemically caused

> depression that no anti-depressant has been able to help

> me with.

>

> Perhaps I am the last one to figure this out, but I

> wanted to share it with anyone else whose diseases are

> primarily neurological just in case you haven't tried

> methadone yet. It has helped me so much I can't believe

> it. I am sooo greatful.

>

> When I told this to the doctor who referred me to the

> pain specialist how much methadone helped me he said he

> has had the same reaction from about 30 other patients

> this pain doctor put on this med.

>

> It does make me itch, so I have to take hydroxyzine, but

> that is a small price to pay. I am so chemically

> sensitive I just hope my body can handle it for a long

> time. I usually develop an allergy over time. I just

> hope either this is different or God has another answer

> for me if I become sensitive to it.

>

> I feel like a new person. I hope it can help others

> also. It is not new, and I think it is inexpensive, but

> it certainly has helped me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I have heard that methadone is great at relieving pain

that other pain meds don't. However, it is a very

stigmatized drug, and usually only used for heroin

withdrawal. I know in Denver, there were only 2 places

you could get methadone, and they were heroin withdrawal

clinics, and had to have special licenses to administer

methadone. No scripts were given to pts--all pts had to

come to the clinic to get the med. No docs, and I mean

no, dispensed methadone.

Then I came to Seattle, where the drug of choice here is

heroin. The hospital I work at is the county hospital

and the regional trauma center for 4 states. We get

LOTS of heroin users, and it seems like every other pt

is on methadone. It really blew me away. Then, I was

taking care of a 28 yo woman who had chronic,

intractable pain. I had given her a total of 75mg

morphine IV, 4mg Dilaudid IV, 500mcg Fentanyl IV, and

75mg Demerol IV, all without much relief. So, I called

the pain service and had them come down to evaluate

her. The doctor looked at what I had given her and the

results, and he put her on a Dilaudid PCA, and oral

methadone. Methadone is a pain med, but I've never seen

it used for pain. So, I asked him about it. And he

explained that methadone is not a drug commonly abused

because most docs won't write for it, and because

several states require special licenses to dispense it.

Therefore, most people don't go requesting methadone,

and most don't know that it is a pain med. They haven't

developed tolerance to it like they have other pain

meds, and it works on some different areas in the brain

then other pain meds. 2 days later, I asked the pain

doc about this pt, and he said that the methadone had

adequately controlled her pain, and she was feeling much

better. Just this past wk, I have taken care of 2 pts

postop who were on methadone for pain, and who were not

heroin addicts.

I'm glad you found a doc who was willing to prescribe

it. Unfortunately, because of its association with

heroin, I think it will always have that stigma, but if

it works, and your doc is willing to rx it, then my hats

off to you and to him!

Let us know how it continues to work for you. I will be

curious to see. Maybe I should start a study here in

Seattle with methadone.....

e

> From: " by way of ilena rose " <bonnie6@...>

> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:31 AM

> Subject: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

>

>

> > Ilena, please pass this on.

> >

> > I just had a wonderful breakthrough with an old med. A

> > local doctor, in Las Vegas, who is somewhat familiar

> > with silicone related health problems sent me to a pain

> > specialist who told me that he thought the best pain

> > medicine by far for neurological problems is methadone.

> > Yes, you heard me right; the methadone that is commonly

> > used to help people ease off a drug addiction in re-hab

> > centers. It is really just a pain pill.

> >

> > It just so happened that I took my first pill in a new

> > script within a few minutes of when I heard of our

> > nation, and our planet's terrible tragedy on 9/11/01.

> >

> > I certainly had legitimate reasons for feeling

> > emotionally depressed, and I was over this insane

> > tragedy, but at the same time, my health improved

> > greatlty; it was like I was a new person. It lifted the

> > horrible mental confusion and chemically caused

> > depression that no anti-depressant has been able to help

> > me with.

> >

> > Perhaps I am the last one to figure this out, but I

> > wanted to share it with anyone else whose diseases are

> > primarily neurological just in case you haven't tried

> > methadone yet. It has helped me so much I can't believe

> > it. I am sooo greatful.

> >

> > When I told this to the doctor who referred me to the

> > pain specialist how much methadone helped me he said he

> > has had the same reaction from about 30 other patients

> > this pain doctor put on this med.

> >

> > It does make me itch, so I have to take hydroxyzine, but

> > that is a small price to pay. I am so chemically

> > sensitive I just hope my body can handle it for a long

> > time. I usually develop an allergy over time. I just

> > hope either this is different or God has another answer

> > for me if I become sensitive to it.

> >

> > I feel like a new person. I hope it can help others

> > also. It is not new, and I think it is inexpensive, but

> > it certainly has helped me.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry everyone. I thought this message was from Patty,

but I believe it was sent from someone else. At any

rate, she will need to keep us posted on her pain

relief. Sorry, Patty.

e

> Patty,

>

> I have heard that methadone is great at relieving pain

> that other pain meds don't. However, it is a very

> stigmatized drug, and usually only used for heroin

> withdrawal. I know in Denver, there were only 2 places

> you could get methadone, and they were heroin withdrawal

> clinics, and had to have special licenses to administer

> methadone. No scripts were given to pts--all pts had to

> come to the clinic to get the med. No docs, and I mean

> no, dispensed methadone.

>

> Then I came to Seattle, where the drug of choice here is

> heroin. The hospital I work at is the county hospital

> and the regional trauma center for 4 states. We get

> LOTS of heroin users, and it seems like every other pt

> is on methadone. It really blew me away. Then, I was

> taking care of a 28 yo woman who had chronic,

> intractable pain. I had given her a total of 75mg

> morphine IV, 4mg Dilaudid IV, 500mcg Fentanyl IV, and

> 75mg Demerol IV, all without much relief. So, I called

> the pain service and had them come down to evaluate

> her. The doctor looked at what I had given her and the

> results, and he put her on a Dilaudid PCA, and oral

> methadone. Methadone is a pain med, but I've never seen

> it used for pain. So, I asked him about it. And he

> explained that methadone is not a drug commonly abused

> because most docs won't write for it, and because

> several states require special licenses to dispense it.

> Therefore, most people don't go requesting methadone,

> and most don't know that it is a pain med. They haven't

> developed tolerance to it like they have other pain

> meds, and it works on some different areas in the brain

> then other pain meds. 2 days later, I asked the pain

> doc about this pt, and he said that the methadone had

> adequately controlled her pain, and she was feeling much

> better. Just this past wk, I have taken care of 2 pts

> postop who were on methadone for pain, and who were not

> heroin addicts.

>

> I'm glad you found a doc who was willing to prescribe

> it. Unfortunately, because of its association with

> heroin, I think it will always have that stigma, but if

> it works, and your doc is willing to rx it, then my hats

> off to you and to him!

>

> Let us know how it continues to work for you. I will be

> curious to see. Maybe I should start a study here in

> Seattle with methadone.....

>

> e

> > From: " by way of ilena rose " <bonnie6@...>

> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:31 AM

> > Subject: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

> >

> >

> > > Ilena, please pass this on.

> > >

> > > I just had a wonderful breakthrough with an old med. A

> > > local doctor, in Las Vegas, who is somewhat familiar

> > > with silicone related health problems sent me to a pain

> > > specialist who told me that he thought the best pain

> > > medicine by far for neurological problems is methadone.

> > > Yes, you heard me right; the methadone that is commonly

> > > used to help people ease off a drug addiction in re-hab

> > > centers. It is really just a pain pill.

> > >

> > > It just so happened that I took my first pill in a new

> > > script within a few minutes of when I heard of our

> > > nation, and our planet's terrible tragedy on 9/11/01.

> > >

> > > I certainly had legitimate reasons for feeling

> > > emotionally depressed, and I was over this insane

> > > tragedy, but at the same time, my health improved

> > > greatlty; it was like I was a new person. It lifted the

> > > horrible mental confusion and chemically caused

> > > depression that no anti-depressant has been able to help

> > > me with.

> > >

> > > Perhaps I am the last one to figure this out, but I

> > > wanted to share it with anyone else whose diseases are

> > > primarily neurological just in case you haven't tried

> > > methadone yet. It has helped me so much I can't believe

> > > it. I am sooo greatful.

> > >

> > > When I told this to the doctor who referred me to the

> > > pain specialist how much methadone helped me he said he

> > > has had the same reaction from about 30 other patients

> > > this pain doctor put on this med.

> > >

> > > It does make me itch, so I have to take hydroxyzine, but

> > > that is a small price to pay. I am so chemically

> > > sensitive I just hope my body can handle it for a long

> > > time. I usually develop an allergy over time. I just

> > > hope either this is different or God has another answer

> > > for me if I become sensitive to it.

> > >

> > > I feel like a new person. I hope it can help others

> > > also. It is not new, and I think it is inexpensive, but

> > > it certainly has helped me.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

e,

I'll pass this on to Bonnie...

Hopefully she will keep us updated with posts to Ilena.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: <eRene@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

> Patty,

>

> I have heard that methadone is great at relieving pain

> that other pain meds don't. However, it is a very

> stigmatized drug, and usually only used for heroin

> withdrawal. I know in Denver, there were only 2 places

> you could get methadone, and they were heroin withdrawal

> clinics, and had to have special licenses to administer

> methadone. No scripts were given to pts--all pts had to

> come to the clinic to get the med. No docs, and I mean

> no, dispensed methadone.

>

> Then I came to Seattle, where the drug of choice here is

> heroin. The hospital I work at is the county hospital

> and the regional trauma center for 4 states. We get

> LOTS of heroin users, and it seems like every other pt

> is on methadone. It really blew me away. Then, I was

> taking care of a 28 yo woman who had chronic,

> intractable pain. I had given her a total of 75mg

> morphine IV, 4mg Dilaudid IV, 500mcg Fentanyl IV, and

> 75mg Demerol IV, all without much relief. So, I called

> the pain service and had them come down to evaluate

> her. The doctor looked at what I had given her and the

> results, and he put her on a Dilaudid PCA, and oral

> methadone. Methadone is a pain med, but I've never seen

> it used for pain. So, I asked him about it. And he

> explained that methadone is not a drug commonly abused

> because most docs won't write for it, and because

> several states require special licenses to dispense it.

> Therefore, most people don't go requesting methadone,

> and most don't know that it is a pain med. They haven't

> developed tolerance to it like they have other pain

> meds, and it works on some different areas in the brain

> then other pain meds. 2 days later, I asked the pain

> doc about this pt, and he said that the methadone had

> adequately controlled her pain, and she was feeling much

> better. Just this past wk, I have taken care of 2 pts

> postop who were on methadone for pain, and who were not

> heroin addicts.

>

> I'm glad you found a doc who was willing to prescribe

> it. Unfortunately, because of its association with

> heroin, I think it will always have that stigma, but if

> it works, and your doc is willing to rx it, then my hats

> off to you and to him!

>

> Let us know how it continues to work for you. I will be

> curious to see. Maybe I should start a study here in

> Seattle with methadone.....

>

> e

> > From: " by way of ilena rose " <bonnie6@...>

> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:31 AM

> > Subject: neuro pain med that helped me ~ methadone

> >

> >

> > > Ilena, please pass this on.

> > >

> > > I just had a wonderful breakthrough with an old med. A

> > > local doctor, in Las Vegas, who is somewhat familiar

> > > with silicone related health problems sent me to a pain

> > > specialist who told me that he thought the best pain

> > > medicine by far for neurological problems is methadone.

> > > Yes, you heard me right; the methadone that is commonly

> > > used to help people ease off a drug addiction in re-hab

> > > centers. It is really just a pain pill.

> > >

> > > It just so happened that I took my first pill in a new

> > > script within a few minutes of when I heard of our

> > > nation, and our planet's terrible tragedy on 9/11/01.

> > >

> > > I certainly had legitimate reasons for feeling

> > > emotionally depressed, and I was over this insane

> > > tragedy, but at the same time, my health improved

> > > greatlty; it was like I was a new person. It lifted the

> > > horrible mental confusion and chemically caused

> > > depression that no anti-depressant has been able to help

> > > me with.

> > >

> > > Perhaps I am the last one to figure this out, but I

> > > wanted to share it with anyone else whose diseases are

> > > primarily neurological just in case you haven't tried

> > > methadone yet. It has helped me so much I can't believe

> > > it. I am sooo greatful.

> > >

> > > When I told this to the doctor who referred me to the

> > > pain specialist how much methadone helped me he said he

> > > has had the same reaction from about 30 other patients

> > > this pain doctor put on this med.

> > >

> > > It does make me itch, so I have to take hydroxyzine, but

> > > that is a small price to pay. I am so chemically

> > > sensitive I just hope my body can handle it for a long

> > > time. I usually develop an allergy over time. I just

> > > hope either this is different or God has another answer

> > > for me if I become sensitive to it.

> > >

> > > I feel like a new person. I hope it can help others

> > > also. It is not new, and I think it is inexpensive, but

> > > it certainly has helped me.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >