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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?OK-

It's one month minus 3 days before I will be with at the Spain Brain

Rehab Clinic & another appointment with the UAB audiologist with 2 tape

recorders and a list of questions to ask and I dare them be too busy to

answer me with intelligent answers that are not Latin B.S. because I can

understand what they are saying probably better than the general public as a

D.C.

Here we have 2 or is it 3 people on this that are now discussing

tinnitus/nerve conduction hearing loss symptoms as a result of my bringing

up the subject having become aware of the human suffering that is silently

endured without notice to the unaware observer to victims if these physical

maladies that appear to be iatrogenic (dr/drug induced) having learned this

from twice brain injured/SSRI & pain pill medicated (who doesn't mind

discussing his case as he wants it to help other people so I'm not violating

his privacy and he would enjoy a call from anyone that wanted to call him

and talk to him about his case & symptoms).

Again, I'm not an audiologist or a neurologist-just a Doctor of

CHirorpractic with no specific training in nerve conduction hearing loss or

tinnitis-but we should be able to find SOMEONE who can provide the

scientific explanation for this apparently common human affliction that the

U.S. Government is allowing to be suffered upon it's citizens while

allegedly protecting us from dangerous drugs by the FDA.

Hearing the sound but not being able to distingush what is being said is

definitely nerve conduction hearing loss.

I don't have 5-10 hours to describe the totally incompetent

Medicare/Medicaide costs that have been paid for on and still no help

or explaination as to why he has had tinnitis since the 2 brain injuries and

hearing loss.

There is relief from the tinnitis if the sound is loud enough to drown out

the tinnitis-a little nerve racking for someone like me that likes silence &

NPR classical music rather than rock & roll that is too loud to talk over.

We know that the tinnitis/bone conduction hearing loss (t/bchl) is somewhere

between the time the sound vibration leaves the last ossicle and started

vibrating the hair cells (cilia) inside the fluid in the cochlea (each one

vibrates on a certain decible level-when you have just been around a loud

sound and your hear ringing in your ears you've overstimulated those

particular decible level of hair cells and will never have that ability to

percieve sound at that level again-thus the progressive loss of hearing as

we age), the auditory nerve (Cranial nerve #________________) and the

_____________ lobe of the brain that registers and percieves sound.

I will have an opportunity to question both the Brain Injury M.D. & the

Audiologist as we contemplate the tests that will be prescribed attempting

to locate the location of the t/bchl (assumably MRI's).

IF it's not a physical etiology, it has to be a chemical etiology.

IF it's a possible chemical etiology, these esteemed leaders of the medical

profession that are at the University of Alabama Birmingham should have some

way of taking a sample and testing it for agents that can cause t/bchr.

IF not, I'm going to provide daily chiropractic care which

Medicare/Medicaide wouldn't pay me enough to bother getting frustated filing

the insurance and getting rejected to invest the postage to see of the

cranial subluxations can be causing an impingment on the auditory cranial

nerves as he does have severe cranial distortion.

You can ascertain if you have cranial distortion by feeling the back of your

head near the back to see if you have tight muscles that are caused by the

subluxated vertebrae below. There is a specific relationship between each of

the bilater 7 occipital fibers and the vertebra causing the hypertonicity

that pulls on the occipital bone and subluxating the rest of the cranium

like a 3 dimentional cogwheel between the sutures of all the cranial bones.

If your teeth change in occlusion or you have pain unilaterally or

bilaterally in the TMJ-TemperoMandibular (Jaw) Joint this is also

pathognomonic (if the test is positive-you've positively got the problem)

cranial subluxation/distortion.

The first audiologist I took him to wanted to do Medicare/Medicaide

insurance supported surgery on the ossicles because he " thought " one

probably got broken in the fall. I woke up the next morning and " thought "

that wasn't a good reason to do invasive surgery interrupting a typanic

membrane to do exploratory surgery on a small ear bone that was housed in

the cranium durng the fall and probably isn't damaged but I'd never know as

I'd not be able to see what he found once he got in there with to guarantee

after the pre-surgery lab work, anethesia and post exam that he was going to

be able to hear any better than after the few thousands he was going to be

paid to do the surgery and schdeuled the appointments at UAB Brain Injury &

Audiology Departments.

Now that I'm learning from you guys that this is a common problem with the

brain injured/SSRI victims,

the plot is definintely thickening in my quest to find relief for while

we've got the benefit of taxpayer funded medical appointments with no

co-payments and a medical power of attorney so that the M.D.'s have to

communciate with me.

Every communication will either be tape recorded and/or in writing to create

a trail of communication for others to follow.

In the meantime-

Anyone interested in the t/nchl issue needs to research as many SSRI's as

possible and send me the portion of the PDR that lists tinnitis as a side

effect. The drug companies are the only people i'veknow that post

information so that you can't copy & past portions off of what they post on

the webside so ti makes it difficult to forward a particular entry pointing

out particuar part that you are referencing. Therefore, I suggest that if

you find tinnitis as a side effect, print, underline (not highlight as that

doesn't copy) and fax it ot me at 404 231 2223. If it's busy I'm on the net

so just call 404 231 1999 & let me know you're trying to transmit a fax.

This will be useful to copy and take to the audiologist and brain injury

specialists at UAB.

Volunteers are also needed MONDAY to call their 2 Senators & 1

Represenative.

Ask the local office to patch you through to Washington so you don't have to

pay for the long distance.

GET THE EXACT NAME OF THE PERSON IN THEIR WASHINGTON OFFICE THAT HANDLES

ISSUES RELATED TO THE FDA.

We need to know the name of the Congressional Committee that heard the FDA

hearings on antidepressants causing suicide in children, all the members and

their FAX NUMBERS. Forget e-mail-they're not even going to open it up, let

alone print and read it.

We want these Congressional Committees to tell us why these drug are causing

so much nerve damage that it's victims are deaf & being committed to a life

sentence of the cruel and unusual punishment of being tortured with loud

ringing in the ear against which a convicted criminal is protected by the

U.S. Constitution and which has negative ramifications to their ability to

hear in the workplace and home negatively impacting the family and the

ability to communiate with loved ones and their descendents.

If you dont' have a fax-get a fax.

I've found it to be a very effectiev political weapon.

Also get a date stamper.

YOu prepare the fax and send it out the first time.

Each day you send it out again & date stamp it starting in the upper right

hand corner.

You are training the politicians staff with as little frustration, time &

expense on your part that you are not a constituent that can be ignored long

enough that you will go away and they won't have to answer your inquiry.

The first time it will take until you are about 1/2 way down the page.

After you have trained them with this introductory introduction and you have

the specific person that is assigned to deal with FDA issues, you will

notice that you will probably get rather swift responses.

Be sure to thank them when they help you as you want to establish a positive

relationship with this person on a first name basisl

Write a good report that they can show to your Congressperson when they give

you what you want in a reasonable period fo time. Make them want to give you

what you are seeking.

IF anyone has time to research tinnitis on the internet and send me

references I'll study them also.

This issue is very, very important.

IF the auditory nerve is being damaged by a biochemical agent being

distributed to the public by the U.S. Government under the authority of the

FDA, other nerves are being damaged also as the entire body is under the

influence of the drug.

IF the etiology of the t/nchl can be ferretted out, we might have the

explaination as to why so many other neurological symptoms are being

exhibited in the changes in behavior that are being illicited in certain

centers of the brain.

You guys are going to make me dust off my Gray's anatomy & Guyton's

Physiological books.

This " quack " sure is looking forward to our little visits with the M.D.'s in

December and I'd appreciate all the help you guys have time to give on this

project because it's a MAJOR hassle to suffer with going to these

appointments to be granted a few moments with the white-coated health

priests who speak in Latin so that their subjects are expected to be in awe

as they say mumbo jumbo b.s. usually that means essentially:I don't know but

I want you to think I know so I can charge as much as i can to your

insurance with no accountability for the results of my advice and/or

treatment-kinda like attorneys who think you are crazy and want others to

think you have a mental problem if you have this mistaken belief that they

should actually know the law and be truthful about it.

Keep in mind that 3 weeks ago tomorrow met Gov. Riley and the following

Thursday I took him to the Capitol so we could communicate in person again

on their territory so they know I know where they are. I was busy telling

his aide about being committed to a psychiatric institutino that closed

it's brain injury wing involuntarily when was voluntarily seeking help

for his brain injuries by Judge Ragland telling his parents there was no

where else to send him. I asked him if it was in the best interest of the

public or the taxpayers for this man to be locked up in a psychiatric

institution drugged up on antidepressants that are now known to cause

children to commit suicide. was standing about 2 feet to my right with

his totally deaf left ear to me looking up at some portraits of the past

Governors in awe as his parents, unlike mine, had been too poor to take

their children to the State Capitol when he was in the first grade. Just

after I said this I turned and said " " in the same tone of voice in

which I was talking to Gov. Riley's Aide that travels with him to speaking

engangements and is the person to whom Gov. Riley referrs constituents to

give them more attention to their concerns so he can shake as many hands as

possible hoping to get re-elected in 2 years. couldn't hear me. I had

to raise my voice 3 times until he could hear me.

The Ala. Dept. of Mental Illness just across the street is one of the few

agencies that had to have an increase in their budget while Gov. Riley

struggles to balance the budget after loosing a VERY unpopular tax

referendum last year.

Gov. Riley met me 2 years aog when I was working with his Madison County

Campaign Chair on his campaign.

Gov. Riley's Dept. of Rehab Services failed to even tell that they had

a Audiologist Counselor in the very building where his Vocational

Rehabilitation Counselor didn't help him get trained to work in a health

care facility but made him work in a factory making military bag & burial

flags exacerbating his cervical pain from 3 neck surgeries refusing to tell

him the name of the Worker's Comp. doctors and refusing to help him get a

job anywhere but at that military factory that has I am sure a lucrative

contract with teh government with a factory righth on the Redstone Arsenal.

The last time I was trying to get some information (the phone/fax and e-mail

addresses of the Board of Mental Illness)

the director of constituent services refused to help me, locked the door to

the office and called the capitol police on me to avoid having to tell me

when they have their meetings.

Let me assure you, SOMEONE is Alabama is going to tell me why can't

hear or SOMEONE in Alabama is going to approve Medicaide funding so that

SOMEONE outside of Alabama is going to tell me why can't hear.

I'd been trying to get SOMEONE in the Ala. Dept of Rehab Services to give me

a contact e-mail for SOMEONE in the Huntsville Rehab Foundation that runs

the Phoenix military factory allegedly providing training for the

handicapped and referals fgor jobs outside but pays them below wages without

insuracne/retirement benefits and fails to get the jobs for years.

I didn't want to but i had not choice but to start copying my e-mails to the

Governor's office. 6 hours later I got a several page e-mail from the CEO of

H'ville Rehab Foundation with the 2nd paragraph informing me that he'd sent

my e-mail to his attorney to reserach the options of slander (when the

written word is liable). The next day I decided to take a differnet tactic

and begged him for help to help me get some hearing aides enumerating

the suffering and his wife dying of cancer after he'd been brain injuried

with ringing & bone & nerve conductionhearing loss. 9 minutes later he sent

me an e-mail asking me if I knew how much hearing aides cost.

I share these experiences with you so that you can hone your politifcal

warfare tatical skills so we can start getting answers to our quesions with

as little time, money and imposition on our lives as possible.

When the Supervisor of Madison County Dept. of Rehab wouldn't tell me who

was ging to be at the Tues Meeting, if they were going to give us a referral

for the hearing aides in time to ge tthem before the Dec. appointments & if

his civil right to have his records was going to be honored at the meeting,

I didn't let them waste my very valuable time and money going over their to

fill out an application which is what he told me was the purpose of the

meeting 2 hours after it wa scheudled when never recieved notice that

he is no longer a client.

The game plan is to be in their face politely, professionally, consistently

and appropiately so frequently that it's kinda like a collection agency that

irritates you with dinner time calls and all you want is to give them what

you know they want just so they will go away and let you do something else.

This is today's political science lesson ot be used to get information from

Big Brother about the biochemical warfare they are waging on us.

Who knows, they might even be planning to transmit sound to SSRI recipients

who will be the only one able to hear it and then call you schizophrenic

needing " medication " and institutionalization as if the tinnitis isn't

enough to drive you up the wall anyway.

Oh, I must be paranoid-MKULtra, CIA, FDA, Mental Health Officer, Dr. Noga,

Dr. Vasavada, Judge Ragland, Bush, Lilly, GSK, do you have a pill to help me

have more politically correct thoughts or a mental institution where I might

be fed foods that would induce diabetes so I could be dependent upon

expensive insulin every day for the rest of my life.... ?

Now I'm remebering Newt Gingrich telling us that 25% of the Medicare dollars

were going to treat diabetes & related illnesses-now there's a profitable

proposition.

Dr. Lance, D.C.

Daughter of Alma Virginia

Antidepressant Suicide Victim

P.S. Tomorow is the 33rd month anniversary of Mother's suicide.

Unfortunately, since I'm not drugged into obilivion with no normal human

emotion and am not controlled by the SSRI's that the Mental Health Center

conspired with Judge Ragland to poison my body with while he was refusing to

grant me administration to my Mother's estate, I haven't just " let go "

because I'm not " happy with the results of the treatment " as Dr. Portier,

Dirctor, told the Huntsville Times reporter after I filed the $1,000,000

lawsuit jsut so i coudl get a picture of her the way I found her with those

3 plastic bags over her head and panty hose around her neck into the public

record of Chief Clerk Jane doesn't violate my civil rights an remove

what they don't like to keep as she is prone to do. Just knowing that there

are others sprinkled in small numbers (for now) around the country that

understand and appreciate the pain and suffering of loosing a loved one to

suicide after you've watched them medicate her into the grave for over 3

years is really helping me to heal and get strong and be able to focus again

on healing others again. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?

We also need

________________________________________________

" If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not on " mute " I not

only

> cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

distressing a

> sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

complete sensory

> overload....................... "

I can identify with this ..........with the caveat that I

do have measurable hearing loss at audiogramme testing.

My left ear is by far the worse, when I'm driving the car and I have

a front seat passenger (rem we drive on the right here so passenger

is beside my left ear) we have real issues in holding a conversation.

Often I tip the drivers windscreen rear view mirror and use it as a

lip reading aid ..............so my hearing is pretty poor.

On other occassions, say like the shopping mall, crowds, music ,

public address announcements ..........noise comming from various

directions simultaneously ...............AGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It drives me mad and I want to run away, escape, head for the

hills .............somedays it would be bliss to be totally stone

cold deaf !!!

Yet

In the right setting, say at the Cathedral, my favourite Organist

playing, complex moving pieces ...........I feel them, I'm moved, I

thank God I'm alive ...............in those circumstances the

experience is heightened much more pleasureable than before. I have

become hypersensitive.

The drugs have changed me.

Gsk, Lilly Weyth etc etc .........have let loose something that they

did not fully expect

Re: Hearing loss/tinnitusdrugs are

> > neurotoxins. You mentioned something else once that I forgot to

> comment on and

> > that was not being able to hear you when you spoke if there

> was

> > background noise. This, IMHO, is more a brain injury problem than

> a hearing problem.

> > In brain injuries the filter in your brain that allows you to

> distinguish

> > your voice from the background noise of say, a TV, is damaged, and

> all noise

> > coming into the brain is nothing more than a cacophony of

> indistinguishable

> > sounds. I know. I have the same problem and there is nothing

> wrong with my

> > hearing. If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not

> on " mute " I not only

> > cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

> distressing a

> > sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

> complete sensory

> > overload.

> >

> >

> > " Blind Reason "

> > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > Unsafe At Any Dose

> >

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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?OK-

It's one month minus 3 days before I will be with at the Spain Brain

Rehab Clinic & another appointment with the UAB audiologist with 2 tape

recorders and a list of questions to ask and I dare them be too busy to

answer me with intelligent answers that are not Latin B.S. because I can

understand what they are saying probably better than the general public as a

D.C.

Here we have 2 or is it 3 people on this that are now discussing

tinnitus/nerve conduction hearing loss symptoms as a result of my bringing

up the subject having become aware of the human suffering that is silently

endured without notice to the unaware observer to victims if these physical

maladies that appear to be iatrogenic (dr/drug induced) having learned this

from twice brain injured/SSRI & pain pill medicated (who doesn't mind

discussing his case as he wants it to help other people so I'm not violating

his privacy and he would enjoy a call from anyone that wanted to call him

and talk to him about his case & symptoms).

Again, I'm not an audiologist or a neurologist-just a Doctor of

CHirorpractic with no specific training in nerve conduction hearing loss or

tinnitis-but we should be able to find SOMEONE who can provide the

scientific explanation for this apparently common human affliction that the

U.S. Government is allowing to be suffered upon it's citizens while

allegedly protecting us from dangerous drugs by the FDA.

Hearing the sound but not being able to distingush what is being said is

definitely nerve conduction hearing loss.

I don't have 5-10 hours to describe the totally incompetent

Medicare/Medicaide costs that have been paid for on and still no help

or explaination as to why he has had tinnitis since the 2 brain injuries and

hearing loss.

There is relief from the tinnitis if the sound is loud enough to drown out

the tinnitis-a little nerve racking for someone like me that likes silence &

NPR classical music rather than rock & roll that is too loud to talk over.

We know that the tinnitis/bone conduction hearing loss (t/bchl) is somewhere

between the time the sound vibration leaves the last ossicle and started

vibrating the hair cells (cilia) inside the fluid in the cochlea (each one

vibrates on a certain decible level-when you have just been around a loud

sound and your hear ringing in your ears you've overstimulated those

particular decible level of hair cells and will never have that ability to

percieve sound at that level again-thus the progressive loss of hearing as

we age), the auditory nerve (Cranial nerve #________________) and the

_____________ lobe of the brain that registers and percieves sound.

I will have an opportunity to question both the Brain Injury M.D. & the

Audiologist as we contemplate the tests that will be prescribed attempting

to locate the location of the t/bchl (assumably MRI's).

IF it's not a physical etiology, it has to be a chemical etiology.

IF it's a possible chemical etiology, these esteemed leaders of the medical

profession that are at the University of Alabama Birmingham should have some

way of taking a sample and testing it for agents that can cause t/bchr.

IF not, I'm going to provide daily chiropractic care which

Medicare/Medicaide wouldn't pay me enough to bother getting frustated filing

the insurance and getting rejected to invest the postage to see of the

cranial subluxations can be causing an impingment on the auditory cranial

nerves as he does have severe cranial distortion.

You can ascertain if you have cranial distortion by feeling the back of your

head near the back to see if you have tight muscles that are caused by the

subluxated vertebrae below. There is a specific relationship between each of

the bilater 7 occipital fibers and the vertebra causing the hypertonicity

that pulls on the occipital bone and subluxating the rest of the cranium

like a 3 dimentional cogwheel between the sutures of all the cranial bones.

If your teeth change in occlusion or you have pain unilaterally or

bilaterally in the TMJ-TemperoMandibular (Jaw) Joint this is also

pathognomonic (if the test is positive-you've positively got the problem)

cranial subluxation/distortion.

The first audiologist I took him to wanted to do Medicare/Medicaide

insurance supported surgery on the ossicles because he " thought " one

probably got broken in the fall. I woke up the next morning and " thought "

that wasn't a good reason to do invasive surgery interrupting a typanic

membrane to do exploratory surgery on a small ear bone that was housed in

the cranium durng the fall and probably isn't damaged but I'd never know as

I'd not be able to see what he found once he got in there with to guarantee

after the pre-surgery lab work, anethesia and post exam that he was going to

be able to hear any better than after the few thousands he was going to be

paid to do the surgery and schdeuled the appointments at UAB Brain Injury &

Audiology Departments.

Now that I'm learning from you guys that this is a common problem with the

brain injured/SSRI victims,

the plot is definintely thickening in my quest to find relief for while

we've got the benefit of taxpayer funded medical appointments with no

co-payments and a medical power of attorney so that the M.D.'s have to

communciate with me.

Every communication will either be tape recorded and/or in writing to create

a trail of communication for others to follow.

In the meantime-

Anyone interested in the t/nchl issue needs to research as many SSRI's as

possible and send me the portion of the PDR that lists tinnitis as a side

effect. The drug companies are the only people i'veknow that post

information so that you can't copy & past portions off of what they post on

the webside so ti makes it difficult to forward a particular entry pointing

out particuar part that you are referencing. Therefore, I suggest that if

you find tinnitis as a side effect, print, underline (not highlight as that

doesn't copy) and fax it ot me at 404 231 2223. If it's busy I'm on the net

so just call 404 231 1999 & let me know you're trying to transmit a fax.

This will be useful to copy and take to the audiologist and brain injury

specialists at UAB.

Volunteers are also needed MONDAY to call their 2 Senators & 1

Represenative.

Ask the local office to patch you through to Washington so you don't have to

pay for the long distance.

GET THE EXACT NAME OF THE PERSON IN THEIR WASHINGTON OFFICE THAT HANDLES

ISSUES RELATED TO THE FDA.

We need to know the name of the Congressional Committee that heard the FDA

hearings on antidepressants causing suicide in children, all the members and

their FAX NUMBERS. Forget e-mail-they're not even going to open it up, let

alone print and read it.

We want these Congressional Committees to tell us why these drug are causing

so much nerve damage that it's victims are deaf & being committed to a life

sentence of the cruel and unusual punishment of being tortured with loud

ringing in the ear against which a convicted criminal is protected by the

U.S. Constitution and which has negative ramifications to their ability to

hear in the workplace and home negatively impacting the family and the

ability to communiate with loved ones and their descendents.

If you dont' have a fax-get a fax.

I've found it to be a very effectiev political weapon.

Also get a date stamper.

YOu prepare the fax and send it out the first time.

Each day you send it out again & date stamp it starting in the upper right

hand corner.

You are training the politicians staff with as little frustration, time &

expense on your part that you are not a constituent that can be ignored long

enough that you will go away and they won't have to answer your inquiry.

The first time it will take until you are about 1/2 way down the page.

After you have trained them with this introductory introduction and you have

the specific person that is assigned to deal with FDA issues, you will

notice that you will probably get rather swift responses.

Be sure to thank them when they help you as you want to establish a positive

relationship with this person on a first name basisl

Write a good report that they can show to your Congressperson when they give

you what you want in a reasonable period fo time. Make them want to give you

what you are seeking.

IF anyone has time to research tinnitis on the internet and send me

references I'll study them also.

This issue is very, very important.

IF the auditory nerve is being damaged by a biochemical agent being

distributed to the public by the U.S. Government under the authority of the

FDA, other nerves are being damaged also as the entire body is under the

influence of the drug.

IF the etiology of the t/nchl can be ferretted out, we might have the

explaination as to why so many other neurological symptoms are being

exhibited in the changes in behavior that are being illicited in certain

centers of the brain.

You guys are going to make me dust off my Gray's anatomy & Guyton's

Physiological books.

This " quack " sure is looking forward to our little visits with the M.D.'s in

December and I'd appreciate all the help you guys have time to give on this

project because it's a MAJOR hassle to suffer with going to these

appointments to be granted a few moments with the white-coated health

priests who speak in Latin so that their subjects are expected to be in awe

as they say mumbo jumbo b.s. usually that means essentially:I don't know but

I want you to think I know so I can charge as much as i can to your

insurance with no accountability for the results of my advice and/or

treatment-kinda like attorneys who think you are crazy and want others to

think you have a mental problem if you have this mistaken belief that they

should actually know the law and be truthful about it.

Keep in mind that 3 weeks ago tomorrow met Gov. Riley and the following

Thursday I took him to the Capitol so we could communicate in person again

on their territory so they know I know where they are. I was busy telling

his aide about being committed to a psychiatric institutino that closed

it's brain injury wing involuntarily when was voluntarily seeking help

for his brain injuries by Judge Ragland telling his parents there was no

where else to send him. I asked him if it was in the best interest of the

public or the taxpayers for this man to be locked up in a psychiatric

institution drugged up on antidepressants that are now known to cause

children to commit suicide. was standing about 2 feet to my right with

his totally deaf left ear to me looking up at some portraits of the past

Governors in awe as his parents, unlike mine, had been too poor to take

their children to the State Capitol when he was in the first grade. Just

after I said this I turned and said " " in the same tone of voice in

which I was talking to Gov. Riley's Aide that travels with him to speaking

engangements and is the person to whom Gov. Riley referrs constituents to

give them more attention to their concerns so he can shake as many hands as

possible hoping to get re-elected in 2 years. couldn't hear me. I had

to raise my voice 3 times until he could hear me.

The Ala. Dept. of Mental Illness just across the street is one of the few

agencies that had to have an increase in their budget while Gov. Riley

struggles to balance the budget after loosing a VERY unpopular tax

referendum last year.

Gov. Riley met me 2 years aog when I was working with his Madison County

Campaign Chair on his campaign.

Gov. Riley's Dept. of Rehab Services failed to even tell that they had

a Audiologist Counselor in the very building where his Vocational

Rehabilitation Counselor didn't help him get trained to work in a health

care facility but made him work in a factory making military bag & burial

flags exacerbating his cervical pain from 3 neck surgeries refusing to tell

him the name of the Worker's Comp. doctors and refusing to help him get a

job anywhere but at that military factory that has I am sure a lucrative

contract with teh government with a factory righth on the Redstone Arsenal.

The last time I was trying to get some information (the phone/fax and e-mail

addresses of the Board of Mental Illness)

the director of constituent services refused to help me, locked the door to

the office and called the capitol police on me to avoid having to tell me

when they have their meetings.

Let me assure you, SOMEONE is Alabama is going to tell me why can't

hear or SOMEONE in Alabama is going to approve Medicaide funding so that

SOMEONE outside of Alabama is going to tell me why can't hear.

I'd been trying to get SOMEONE in the Ala. Dept of Rehab Services to give me

a contact e-mail for SOMEONE in the Huntsville Rehab Foundation that runs

the Phoenix military factory allegedly providing training for the

handicapped and referals fgor jobs outside but pays them below wages without

insuracne/retirement benefits and fails to get the jobs for years.

I didn't want to but i had not choice but to start copying my e-mails to the

Governor's office. 6 hours later I got a several page e-mail from the CEO of

H'ville Rehab Foundation with the 2nd paragraph informing me that he'd sent

my e-mail to his attorney to reserach the options of slander (when the

written word is liable). The next day I decided to take a differnet tactic

and begged him for help to help me get some hearing aides enumerating

the suffering and his wife dying of cancer after he'd been brain injuried

with ringing & bone & nerve conductionhearing loss. 9 minutes later he sent

me an e-mail asking me if I knew how much hearing aides cost.

I share these experiences with you so that you can hone your politifcal

warfare tatical skills so we can start getting answers to our quesions with

as little time, money and imposition on our lives as possible.

When the Supervisor of Madison County Dept. of Rehab wouldn't tell me who

was ging to be at the Tues Meeting, if they were going to give us a referral

for the hearing aides in time to ge tthem before the Dec. appointments & if

his civil right to have his records was going to be honored at the meeting,

I didn't let them waste my very valuable time and money going over their to

fill out an application which is what he told me was the purpose of the

meeting 2 hours after it wa scheudled when never recieved notice that

he is no longer a client.

The game plan is to be in their face politely, professionally, consistently

and appropiately so frequently that it's kinda like a collection agency that

irritates you with dinner time calls and all you want is to give them what

you know they want just so they will go away and let you do something else.

This is today's political science lesson ot be used to get information from

Big Brother about the biochemical warfare they are waging on us.

Who knows, they might even be planning to transmit sound to SSRI recipients

who will be the only one able to hear it and then call you schizophrenic

needing " medication " and institutionalization as if the tinnitis isn't

enough to drive you up the wall anyway.

Oh, I must be paranoid-MKULtra, CIA, FDA, Mental Health Officer, Dr. Noga,

Dr. Vasavada, Judge Ragland, Bush, Lilly, GSK, do you have a pill to help me

have more politically correct thoughts or a mental institution where I might

be fed foods that would induce diabetes so I could be dependent upon

expensive insulin every day for the rest of my life.... ?

Now I'm remebering Newt Gingrich telling us that 25% of the Medicare dollars

were going to treat diabetes & related illnesses-now there's a profitable

proposition.

Dr. Lance, D.C.

Daughter of Alma Virginia

Antidepressant Suicide Victim

P.S. Tomorow is the 33rd month anniversary of Mother's suicide.

Unfortunately, since I'm not drugged into obilivion with no normal human

emotion and am not controlled by the SSRI's that the Mental Health Center

conspired with Judge Ragland to poison my body with while he was refusing to

grant me administration to my Mother's estate, I haven't just " let go "

because I'm not " happy with the results of the treatment " as Dr. Portier,

Dirctor, told the Huntsville Times reporter after I filed the $1,000,000

lawsuit jsut so i coudl get a picture of her the way I found her with those

3 plastic bags over her head and panty hose around her neck into the public

record of Chief Clerk Jane doesn't violate my civil rights an remove

what they don't like to keep as she is prone to do. Just knowing that there

are others sprinkled in small numbers (for now) around the country that

understand and appreciate the pain and suffering of loosing a loved one to

suicide after you've watched them medicate her into the grave for over 3

years is really helping me to heal and get strong and be able to focus again

on healing others again. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?

We also need

________________________________________________

" If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not on " mute " I not

only

> cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

distressing a

> sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

complete sensory

> overload....................... "

I can identify with this ..........with the caveat that I

do have measurable hearing loss at audiogramme testing.

My left ear is by far the worse, when I'm driving the car and I have

a front seat passenger (rem we drive on the right here so passenger

is beside my left ear) we have real issues in holding a conversation.

Often I tip the drivers windscreen rear view mirror and use it as a

lip reading aid ..............so my hearing is pretty poor.

On other occassions, say like the shopping mall, crowds, music ,

public address announcements ..........noise comming from various

directions simultaneously ...............AGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It drives me mad and I want to run away, escape, head for the

hills .............somedays it would be bliss to be totally stone

cold deaf !!!

Yet

In the right setting, say at the Cathedral, my favourite Organist

playing, complex moving pieces ...........I feel them, I'm moved, I

thank God I'm alive ...............in those circumstances the

experience is heightened much more pleasureable than before. I have

become hypersensitive.

The drugs have changed me.

Gsk, Lilly Weyth etc etc .........have let loose something that they

did not fully expect

Re: Hearing loss/tinnitusdrugs are

> > neurotoxins. You mentioned something else once that I forgot to

> comment on and

> > that was not being able to hear you when you spoke if there

> was

> > background noise. This, IMHO, is more a brain injury problem than

> a hearing problem.

> > In brain injuries the filter in your brain that allows you to

> distinguish

> > your voice from the background noise of say, a TV, is damaged, and

> all noise

> > coming into the brain is nothing more than a cacophony of

> indistinguishable

> > sounds. I know. I have the same problem and there is nothing

> wrong with my

> > hearing. If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not

> on " mute " I not only

> > cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

> distressing a

> > sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

> complete sensory

> > overload.

> >

> >

> > " Blind Reason "

> > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > Unsafe At Any Dose

> >

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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?OK-

It's one month minus 3 days before I will be with at the Spain Brain

Rehab Clinic & another appointment with the UAB audiologist with 2 tape

recorders and a list of questions to ask and I dare them be too busy to

answer me with intelligent answers that are not Latin B.S. because I can

understand what they are saying probably better than the general public as a

D.C.

Here we have 2 or is it 3 people on this that are now discussing

tinnitus/nerve conduction hearing loss symptoms as a result of my bringing

up the subject having become aware of the human suffering that is silently

endured without notice to the unaware observer to victims if these physical

maladies that appear to be iatrogenic (dr/drug induced) having learned this

from twice brain injured/SSRI & pain pill medicated (who doesn't mind

discussing his case as he wants it to help other people so I'm not violating

his privacy and he would enjoy a call from anyone that wanted to call him

and talk to him about his case & symptoms).

Again, I'm not an audiologist or a neurologist-just a Doctor of

CHirorpractic with no specific training in nerve conduction hearing loss or

tinnitis-but we should be able to find SOMEONE who can provide the

scientific explanation for this apparently common human affliction that the

U.S. Government is allowing to be suffered upon it's citizens while

allegedly protecting us from dangerous drugs by the FDA.

Hearing the sound but not being able to distingush what is being said is

definitely nerve conduction hearing loss.

I don't have 5-10 hours to describe the totally incompetent

Medicare/Medicaide costs that have been paid for on and still no help

or explaination as to why he has had tinnitis since the 2 brain injuries and

hearing loss.

There is relief from the tinnitis if the sound is loud enough to drown out

the tinnitis-a little nerve racking for someone like me that likes silence &

NPR classical music rather than rock & roll that is too loud to talk over.

We know that the tinnitis/bone conduction hearing loss (t/bchl) is somewhere

between the time the sound vibration leaves the last ossicle and started

vibrating the hair cells (cilia) inside the fluid in the cochlea (each one

vibrates on a certain decible level-when you have just been around a loud

sound and your hear ringing in your ears you've overstimulated those

particular decible level of hair cells and will never have that ability to

percieve sound at that level again-thus the progressive loss of hearing as

we age), the auditory nerve (Cranial nerve #________________) and the

_____________ lobe of the brain that registers and percieves sound.

I will have an opportunity to question both the Brain Injury M.D. & the

Audiologist as we contemplate the tests that will be prescribed attempting

to locate the location of the t/bchl (assumably MRI's).

IF it's not a physical etiology, it has to be a chemical etiology.

IF it's a possible chemical etiology, these esteemed leaders of the medical

profession that are at the University of Alabama Birmingham should have some

way of taking a sample and testing it for agents that can cause t/bchr.

IF not, I'm going to provide daily chiropractic care which

Medicare/Medicaide wouldn't pay me enough to bother getting frustated filing

the insurance and getting rejected to invest the postage to see of the

cranial subluxations can be causing an impingment on the auditory cranial

nerves as he does have severe cranial distortion.

You can ascertain if you have cranial distortion by feeling the back of your

head near the back to see if you have tight muscles that are caused by the

subluxated vertebrae below. There is a specific relationship between each of

the bilater 7 occipital fibers and the vertebra causing the hypertonicity

that pulls on the occipital bone and subluxating the rest of the cranium

like a 3 dimentional cogwheel between the sutures of all the cranial bones.

If your teeth change in occlusion or you have pain unilaterally or

bilaterally in the TMJ-TemperoMandibular (Jaw) Joint this is also

pathognomonic (if the test is positive-you've positively got the problem)

cranial subluxation/distortion.

The first audiologist I took him to wanted to do Medicare/Medicaide

insurance supported surgery on the ossicles because he " thought " one

probably got broken in the fall. I woke up the next morning and " thought "

that wasn't a good reason to do invasive surgery interrupting a typanic

membrane to do exploratory surgery on a small ear bone that was housed in

the cranium durng the fall and probably isn't damaged but I'd never know as

I'd not be able to see what he found once he got in there with to guarantee

after the pre-surgery lab work, anethesia and post exam that he was going to

be able to hear any better than after the few thousands he was going to be

paid to do the surgery and schdeuled the appointments at UAB Brain Injury &

Audiology Departments.

Now that I'm learning from you guys that this is a common problem with the

brain injured/SSRI victims,

the plot is definintely thickening in my quest to find relief for while

we've got the benefit of taxpayer funded medical appointments with no

co-payments and a medical power of attorney so that the M.D.'s have to

communciate with me.

Every communication will either be tape recorded and/or in writing to create

a trail of communication for others to follow.

In the meantime-

Anyone interested in the t/nchl issue needs to research as many SSRI's as

possible and send me the portion of the PDR that lists tinnitis as a side

effect. The drug companies are the only people i'veknow that post

information so that you can't copy & past portions off of what they post on

the webside so ti makes it difficult to forward a particular entry pointing

out particuar part that you are referencing. Therefore, I suggest that if

you find tinnitis as a side effect, print, underline (not highlight as that

doesn't copy) and fax it ot me at 404 231 2223. If it's busy I'm on the net

so just call 404 231 1999 & let me know you're trying to transmit a fax.

This will be useful to copy and take to the audiologist and brain injury

specialists at UAB.

Volunteers are also needed MONDAY to call their 2 Senators & 1

Represenative.

Ask the local office to patch you through to Washington so you don't have to

pay for the long distance.

GET THE EXACT NAME OF THE PERSON IN THEIR WASHINGTON OFFICE THAT HANDLES

ISSUES RELATED TO THE FDA.

We need to know the name of the Congressional Committee that heard the FDA

hearings on antidepressants causing suicide in children, all the members and

their FAX NUMBERS. Forget e-mail-they're not even going to open it up, let

alone print and read it.

We want these Congressional Committees to tell us why these drug are causing

so much nerve damage that it's victims are deaf & being committed to a life

sentence of the cruel and unusual punishment of being tortured with loud

ringing in the ear against which a convicted criminal is protected by the

U.S. Constitution and which has negative ramifications to their ability to

hear in the workplace and home negatively impacting the family and the

ability to communiate with loved ones and their descendents.

If you dont' have a fax-get a fax.

I've found it to be a very effectiev political weapon.

Also get a date stamper.

YOu prepare the fax and send it out the first time.

Each day you send it out again & date stamp it starting in the upper right

hand corner.

You are training the politicians staff with as little frustration, time &

expense on your part that you are not a constituent that can be ignored long

enough that you will go away and they won't have to answer your inquiry.

The first time it will take until you are about 1/2 way down the page.

After you have trained them with this introductory introduction and you have

the specific person that is assigned to deal with FDA issues, you will

notice that you will probably get rather swift responses.

Be sure to thank them when they help you as you want to establish a positive

relationship with this person on a first name basisl

Write a good report that they can show to your Congressperson when they give

you what you want in a reasonable period fo time. Make them want to give you

what you are seeking.

IF anyone has time to research tinnitis on the internet and send me

references I'll study them also.

This issue is very, very important.

IF the auditory nerve is being damaged by a biochemical agent being

distributed to the public by the U.S. Government under the authority of the

FDA, other nerves are being damaged also as the entire body is under the

influence of the drug.

IF the etiology of the t/nchl can be ferretted out, we might have the

explaination as to why so many other neurological symptoms are being

exhibited in the changes in behavior that are being illicited in certain

centers of the brain.

You guys are going to make me dust off my Gray's anatomy & Guyton's

Physiological books.

This " quack " sure is looking forward to our little visits with the M.D.'s in

December and I'd appreciate all the help you guys have time to give on this

project because it's a MAJOR hassle to suffer with going to these

appointments to be granted a few moments with the white-coated health

priests who speak in Latin so that their subjects are expected to be in awe

as they say mumbo jumbo b.s. usually that means essentially:I don't know but

I want you to think I know so I can charge as much as i can to your

insurance with no accountability for the results of my advice and/or

treatment-kinda like attorneys who think you are crazy and want others to

think you have a mental problem if you have this mistaken belief that they

should actually know the law and be truthful about it.

Keep in mind that 3 weeks ago tomorrow met Gov. Riley and the following

Thursday I took him to the Capitol so we could communicate in person again

on their territory so they know I know where they are. I was busy telling

his aide about being committed to a psychiatric institutino that closed

it's brain injury wing involuntarily when was voluntarily seeking help

for his brain injuries by Judge Ragland telling his parents there was no

where else to send him. I asked him if it was in the best interest of the

public or the taxpayers for this man to be locked up in a psychiatric

institution drugged up on antidepressants that are now known to cause

children to commit suicide. was standing about 2 feet to my right with

his totally deaf left ear to me looking up at some portraits of the past

Governors in awe as his parents, unlike mine, had been too poor to take

their children to the State Capitol when he was in the first grade. Just

after I said this I turned and said " " in the same tone of voice in

which I was talking to Gov. Riley's Aide that travels with him to speaking

engangements and is the person to whom Gov. Riley referrs constituents to

give them more attention to their concerns so he can shake as many hands as

possible hoping to get re-elected in 2 years. couldn't hear me. I had

to raise my voice 3 times until he could hear me.

The Ala. Dept. of Mental Illness just across the street is one of the few

agencies that had to have an increase in their budget while Gov. Riley

struggles to balance the budget after loosing a VERY unpopular tax

referendum last year.

Gov. Riley met me 2 years aog when I was working with his Madison County

Campaign Chair on his campaign.

Gov. Riley's Dept. of Rehab Services failed to even tell that they had

a Audiologist Counselor in the very building where his Vocational

Rehabilitation Counselor didn't help him get trained to work in a health

care facility but made him work in a factory making military bag & burial

flags exacerbating his cervical pain from 3 neck surgeries refusing to tell

him the name of the Worker's Comp. doctors and refusing to help him get a

job anywhere but at that military factory that has I am sure a lucrative

contract with teh government with a factory righth on the Redstone Arsenal.

The last time I was trying to get some information (the phone/fax and e-mail

addresses of the Board of Mental Illness)

the director of constituent services refused to help me, locked the door to

the office and called the capitol police on me to avoid having to tell me

when they have their meetings.

Let me assure you, SOMEONE is Alabama is going to tell me why can't

hear or SOMEONE in Alabama is going to approve Medicaide funding so that

SOMEONE outside of Alabama is going to tell me why can't hear.

I'd been trying to get SOMEONE in the Ala. Dept of Rehab Services to give me

a contact e-mail for SOMEONE in the Huntsville Rehab Foundation that runs

the Phoenix military factory allegedly providing training for the

handicapped and referals fgor jobs outside but pays them below wages without

insuracne/retirement benefits and fails to get the jobs for years.

I didn't want to but i had not choice but to start copying my e-mails to the

Governor's office. 6 hours later I got a several page e-mail from the CEO of

H'ville Rehab Foundation with the 2nd paragraph informing me that he'd sent

my e-mail to his attorney to reserach the options of slander (when the

written word is liable). The next day I decided to take a differnet tactic

and begged him for help to help me get some hearing aides enumerating

the suffering and his wife dying of cancer after he'd been brain injuried

with ringing & bone & nerve conductionhearing loss. 9 minutes later he sent

me an e-mail asking me if I knew how much hearing aides cost.

I share these experiences with you so that you can hone your politifcal

warfare tatical skills so we can start getting answers to our quesions with

as little time, money and imposition on our lives as possible.

When the Supervisor of Madison County Dept. of Rehab wouldn't tell me who

was ging to be at the Tues Meeting, if they were going to give us a referral

for the hearing aides in time to ge tthem before the Dec. appointments & if

his civil right to have his records was going to be honored at the meeting,

I didn't let them waste my very valuable time and money going over their to

fill out an application which is what he told me was the purpose of the

meeting 2 hours after it wa scheudled when never recieved notice that

he is no longer a client.

The game plan is to be in their face politely, professionally, consistently

and appropiately so frequently that it's kinda like a collection agency that

irritates you with dinner time calls and all you want is to give them what

you know they want just so they will go away and let you do something else.

This is today's political science lesson ot be used to get information from

Big Brother about the biochemical warfare they are waging on us.

Who knows, they might even be planning to transmit sound to SSRI recipients

who will be the only one able to hear it and then call you schizophrenic

needing " medication " and institutionalization as if the tinnitis isn't

enough to drive you up the wall anyway.

Oh, I must be paranoid-MKULtra, CIA, FDA, Mental Health Officer, Dr. Noga,

Dr. Vasavada, Judge Ragland, Bush, Lilly, GSK, do you have a pill to help me

have more politically correct thoughts or a mental institution where I might

be fed foods that would induce diabetes so I could be dependent upon

expensive insulin every day for the rest of my life.... ?

Now I'm remebering Newt Gingrich telling us that 25% of the Medicare dollars

were going to treat diabetes & related illnesses-now there's a profitable

proposition.

Dr. Lance, D.C.

Daughter of Alma Virginia

Antidepressant Suicide Victim

P.S. Tomorow is the 33rd month anniversary of Mother's suicide.

Unfortunately, since I'm not drugged into obilivion with no normal human

emotion and am not controlled by the SSRI's that the Mental Health Center

conspired with Judge Ragland to poison my body with while he was refusing to

grant me administration to my Mother's estate, I haven't just " let go "

because I'm not " happy with the results of the treatment " as Dr. Portier,

Dirctor, told the Huntsville Times reporter after I filed the $1,000,000

lawsuit jsut so i coudl get a picture of her the way I found her with those

3 plastic bags over her head and panty hose around her neck into the public

record of Chief Clerk Jane doesn't violate my civil rights an remove

what they don't like to keep as she is prone to do. Just knowing that there

are others sprinkled in small numbers (for now) around the country that

understand and appreciate the pain and suffering of loosing a loved one to

suicide after you've watched them medicate her into the grave for over 3

years is really helping me to heal and get strong and be able to focus again

on healing others again. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?

We also need

________________________________________________

" If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not on " mute " I not

only

> cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

distressing a

> sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

complete sensory

> overload....................... "

I can identify with this ..........with the caveat that I

do have measurable hearing loss at audiogramme testing.

My left ear is by far the worse, when I'm driving the car and I have

a front seat passenger (rem we drive on the right here so passenger

is beside my left ear) we have real issues in holding a conversation.

Often I tip the drivers windscreen rear view mirror and use it as a

lip reading aid ..............so my hearing is pretty poor.

On other occassions, say like the shopping mall, crowds, music ,

public address announcements ..........noise comming from various

directions simultaneously ...............AGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It drives me mad and I want to run away, escape, head for the

hills .............somedays it would be bliss to be totally stone

cold deaf !!!

Yet

In the right setting, say at the Cathedral, my favourite Organist

playing, complex moving pieces ...........I feel them, I'm moved, I

thank God I'm alive ...............in those circumstances the

experience is heightened much more pleasureable than before. I have

become hypersensitive.

The drugs have changed me.

Gsk, Lilly Weyth etc etc .........have let loose something that they

did not fully expect

Re: Hearing loss/tinnitusdrugs are

> > neurotoxins. You mentioned something else once that I forgot to

> comment on and

> > that was not being able to hear you when you spoke if there

> was

> > background noise. This, IMHO, is more a brain injury problem than

> a hearing problem.

> > In brain injuries the filter in your brain that allows you to

> distinguish

> > your voice from the background noise of say, a TV, is damaged, and

> all noise

> > coming into the brain is nothing more than a cacophony of

> indistinguishable

> > sounds. I know. I have the same problem and there is nothing

> wrong with my

> > hearing. If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not

> on " mute " I not only

> > cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

> distressing a

> > sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

> complete sensory

> > overload.

> >

> >

> > " Blind Reason "

> > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > Unsafe At Any Dose

> >

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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?OK-

It's one month minus 3 days before I will be with at the Spain Brain

Rehab Clinic & another appointment with the UAB audiologist with 2 tape

recorders and a list of questions to ask and I dare them be too busy to

answer me with intelligent answers that are not Latin B.S. because I can

understand what they are saying probably better than the general public as a

D.C.

Here we have 2 or is it 3 people on this that are now discussing

tinnitus/nerve conduction hearing loss symptoms as a result of my bringing

up the subject having become aware of the human suffering that is silently

endured without notice to the unaware observer to victims if these physical

maladies that appear to be iatrogenic (dr/drug induced) having learned this

from twice brain injured/SSRI & pain pill medicated (who doesn't mind

discussing his case as he wants it to help other people so I'm not violating

his privacy and he would enjoy a call from anyone that wanted to call him

and talk to him about his case & symptoms).

Again, I'm not an audiologist or a neurologist-just a Doctor of

CHirorpractic with no specific training in nerve conduction hearing loss or

tinnitis-but we should be able to find SOMEONE who can provide the

scientific explanation for this apparently common human affliction that the

U.S. Government is allowing to be suffered upon it's citizens while

allegedly protecting us from dangerous drugs by the FDA.

Hearing the sound but not being able to distingush what is being said is

definitely nerve conduction hearing loss.

I don't have 5-10 hours to describe the totally incompetent

Medicare/Medicaide costs that have been paid for on and still no help

or explaination as to why he has had tinnitis since the 2 brain injuries and

hearing loss.

There is relief from the tinnitis if the sound is loud enough to drown out

the tinnitis-a little nerve racking for someone like me that likes silence &

NPR classical music rather than rock & roll that is too loud to talk over.

We know that the tinnitis/bone conduction hearing loss (t/bchl) is somewhere

between the time the sound vibration leaves the last ossicle and started

vibrating the hair cells (cilia) inside the fluid in the cochlea (each one

vibrates on a certain decible level-when you have just been around a loud

sound and your hear ringing in your ears you've overstimulated those

particular decible level of hair cells and will never have that ability to

percieve sound at that level again-thus the progressive loss of hearing as

we age), the auditory nerve (Cranial nerve #________________) and the

_____________ lobe of the brain that registers and percieves sound.

I will have an opportunity to question both the Brain Injury M.D. & the

Audiologist as we contemplate the tests that will be prescribed attempting

to locate the location of the t/bchl (assumably MRI's).

IF it's not a physical etiology, it has to be a chemical etiology.

IF it's a possible chemical etiology, these esteemed leaders of the medical

profession that are at the University of Alabama Birmingham should have some

way of taking a sample and testing it for agents that can cause t/bchr.

IF not, I'm going to provide daily chiropractic care which

Medicare/Medicaide wouldn't pay me enough to bother getting frustated filing

the insurance and getting rejected to invest the postage to see of the

cranial subluxations can be causing an impingment on the auditory cranial

nerves as he does have severe cranial distortion.

You can ascertain if you have cranial distortion by feeling the back of your

head near the back to see if you have tight muscles that are caused by the

subluxated vertebrae below. There is a specific relationship between each of

the bilater 7 occipital fibers and the vertebra causing the hypertonicity

that pulls on the occipital bone and subluxating the rest of the cranium

like a 3 dimentional cogwheel between the sutures of all the cranial bones.

If your teeth change in occlusion or you have pain unilaterally or

bilaterally in the TMJ-TemperoMandibular (Jaw) Joint this is also

pathognomonic (if the test is positive-you've positively got the problem)

cranial subluxation/distortion.

The first audiologist I took him to wanted to do Medicare/Medicaide

insurance supported surgery on the ossicles because he " thought " one

probably got broken in the fall. I woke up the next morning and " thought "

that wasn't a good reason to do invasive surgery interrupting a typanic

membrane to do exploratory surgery on a small ear bone that was housed in

the cranium durng the fall and probably isn't damaged but I'd never know as

I'd not be able to see what he found once he got in there with to guarantee

after the pre-surgery lab work, anethesia and post exam that he was going to

be able to hear any better than after the few thousands he was going to be

paid to do the surgery and schdeuled the appointments at UAB Brain Injury &

Audiology Departments.

Now that I'm learning from you guys that this is a common problem with the

brain injured/SSRI victims,

the plot is definintely thickening in my quest to find relief for while

we've got the benefit of taxpayer funded medical appointments with no

co-payments and a medical power of attorney so that the M.D.'s have to

communciate with me.

Every communication will either be tape recorded and/or in writing to create

a trail of communication for others to follow.

In the meantime-

Anyone interested in the t/nchl issue needs to research as many SSRI's as

possible and send me the portion of the PDR that lists tinnitis as a side

effect. The drug companies are the only people i'veknow that post

information so that you can't copy & past portions off of what they post on

the webside so ti makes it difficult to forward a particular entry pointing

out particuar part that you are referencing. Therefore, I suggest that if

you find tinnitis as a side effect, print, underline (not highlight as that

doesn't copy) and fax it ot me at 404 231 2223. If it's busy I'm on the net

so just call 404 231 1999 & let me know you're trying to transmit a fax.

This will be useful to copy and take to the audiologist and brain injury

specialists at UAB.

Volunteers are also needed MONDAY to call their 2 Senators & 1

Represenative.

Ask the local office to patch you through to Washington so you don't have to

pay for the long distance.

GET THE EXACT NAME OF THE PERSON IN THEIR WASHINGTON OFFICE THAT HANDLES

ISSUES RELATED TO THE FDA.

We need to know the name of the Congressional Committee that heard the FDA

hearings on antidepressants causing suicide in children, all the members and

their FAX NUMBERS. Forget e-mail-they're not even going to open it up, let

alone print and read it.

We want these Congressional Committees to tell us why these drug are causing

so much nerve damage that it's victims are deaf & being committed to a life

sentence of the cruel and unusual punishment of being tortured with loud

ringing in the ear against which a convicted criminal is protected by the

U.S. Constitution and which has negative ramifications to their ability to

hear in the workplace and home negatively impacting the family and the

ability to communiate with loved ones and their descendents.

If you dont' have a fax-get a fax.

I've found it to be a very effectiev political weapon.

Also get a date stamper.

YOu prepare the fax and send it out the first time.

Each day you send it out again & date stamp it starting in the upper right

hand corner.

You are training the politicians staff with as little frustration, time &

expense on your part that you are not a constituent that can be ignored long

enough that you will go away and they won't have to answer your inquiry.

The first time it will take until you are about 1/2 way down the page.

After you have trained them with this introductory introduction and you have

the specific person that is assigned to deal with FDA issues, you will

notice that you will probably get rather swift responses.

Be sure to thank them when they help you as you want to establish a positive

relationship with this person on a first name basisl

Write a good report that they can show to your Congressperson when they give

you what you want in a reasonable period fo time. Make them want to give you

what you are seeking.

IF anyone has time to research tinnitis on the internet and send me

references I'll study them also.

This issue is very, very important.

IF the auditory nerve is being damaged by a biochemical agent being

distributed to the public by the U.S. Government under the authority of the

FDA, other nerves are being damaged also as the entire body is under the

influence of the drug.

IF the etiology of the t/nchl can be ferretted out, we might have the

explaination as to why so many other neurological symptoms are being

exhibited in the changes in behavior that are being illicited in certain

centers of the brain.

You guys are going to make me dust off my Gray's anatomy & Guyton's

Physiological books.

This " quack " sure is looking forward to our little visits with the M.D.'s in

December and I'd appreciate all the help you guys have time to give on this

project because it's a MAJOR hassle to suffer with going to these

appointments to be granted a few moments with the white-coated health

priests who speak in Latin so that their subjects are expected to be in awe

as they say mumbo jumbo b.s. usually that means essentially:I don't know but

I want you to think I know so I can charge as much as i can to your

insurance with no accountability for the results of my advice and/or

treatment-kinda like attorneys who think you are crazy and want others to

think you have a mental problem if you have this mistaken belief that they

should actually know the law and be truthful about it.

Keep in mind that 3 weeks ago tomorrow met Gov. Riley and the following

Thursday I took him to the Capitol so we could communicate in person again

on their territory so they know I know where they are. I was busy telling

his aide about being committed to a psychiatric institutino that closed

it's brain injury wing involuntarily when was voluntarily seeking help

for his brain injuries by Judge Ragland telling his parents there was no

where else to send him. I asked him if it was in the best interest of the

public or the taxpayers for this man to be locked up in a psychiatric

institution drugged up on antidepressants that are now known to cause

children to commit suicide. was standing about 2 feet to my right with

his totally deaf left ear to me looking up at some portraits of the past

Governors in awe as his parents, unlike mine, had been too poor to take

their children to the State Capitol when he was in the first grade. Just

after I said this I turned and said " " in the same tone of voice in

which I was talking to Gov. Riley's Aide that travels with him to speaking

engangements and is the person to whom Gov. Riley referrs constituents to

give them more attention to their concerns so he can shake as many hands as

possible hoping to get re-elected in 2 years. couldn't hear me. I had

to raise my voice 3 times until he could hear me.

The Ala. Dept. of Mental Illness just across the street is one of the few

agencies that had to have an increase in their budget while Gov. Riley

struggles to balance the budget after loosing a VERY unpopular tax

referendum last year.

Gov. Riley met me 2 years aog when I was working with his Madison County

Campaign Chair on his campaign.

Gov. Riley's Dept. of Rehab Services failed to even tell that they had

a Audiologist Counselor in the very building where his Vocational

Rehabilitation Counselor didn't help him get trained to work in a health

care facility but made him work in a factory making military bag & burial

flags exacerbating his cervical pain from 3 neck surgeries refusing to tell

him the name of the Worker's Comp. doctors and refusing to help him get a

job anywhere but at that military factory that has I am sure a lucrative

contract with teh government with a factory righth on the Redstone Arsenal.

The last time I was trying to get some information (the phone/fax and e-mail

addresses of the Board of Mental Illness)

the director of constituent services refused to help me, locked the door to

the office and called the capitol police on me to avoid having to tell me

when they have their meetings.

Let me assure you, SOMEONE is Alabama is going to tell me why can't

hear or SOMEONE in Alabama is going to approve Medicaide funding so that

SOMEONE outside of Alabama is going to tell me why can't hear.

I'd been trying to get SOMEONE in the Ala. Dept of Rehab Services to give me

a contact e-mail for SOMEONE in the Huntsville Rehab Foundation that runs

the Phoenix military factory allegedly providing training for the

handicapped and referals fgor jobs outside but pays them below wages without

insuracne/retirement benefits and fails to get the jobs for years.

I didn't want to but i had not choice but to start copying my e-mails to the

Governor's office. 6 hours later I got a several page e-mail from the CEO of

H'ville Rehab Foundation with the 2nd paragraph informing me that he'd sent

my e-mail to his attorney to reserach the options of slander (when the

written word is liable). The next day I decided to take a differnet tactic

and begged him for help to help me get some hearing aides enumerating

the suffering and his wife dying of cancer after he'd been brain injuried

with ringing & bone & nerve conductionhearing loss. 9 minutes later he sent

me an e-mail asking me if I knew how much hearing aides cost.

I share these experiences with you so that you can hone your politifcal

warfare tatical skills so we can start getting answers to our quesions with

as little time, money and imposition on our lives as possible.

When the Supervisor of Madison County Dept. of Rehab wouldn't tell me who

was ging to be at the Tues Meeting, if they were going to give us a referral

for the hearing aides in time to ge tthem before the Dec. appointments & if

his civil right to have his records was going to be honored at the meeting,

I didn't let them waste my very valuable time and money going over their to

fill out an application which is what he told me was the purpose of the

meeting 2 hours after it wa scheudled when never recieved notice that

he is no longer a client.

The game plan is to be in their face politely, professionally, consistently

and appropiately so frequently that it's kinda like a collection agency that

irritates you with dinner time calls and all you want is to give them what

you know they want just so they will go away and let you do something else.

This is today's political science lesson ot be used to get information from

Big Brother about the biochemical warfare they are waging on us.

Who knows, they might even be planning to transmit sound to SSRI recipients

who will be the only one able to hear it and then call you schizophrenic

needing " medication " and institutionalization as if the tinnitis isn't

enough to drive you up the wall anyway.

Oh, I must be paranoid-MKULtra, CIA, FDA, Mental Health Officer, Dr. Noga,

Dr. Vasavada, Judge Ragland, Bush, Lilly, GSK, do you have a pill to help me

have more politically correct thoughts or a mental institution where I might

be fed foods that would induce diabetes so I could be dependent upon

expensive insulin every day for the rest of my life.... ?

Now I'm remebering Newt Gingrich telling us that 25% of the Medicare dollars

were going to treat diabetes & related illnesses-now there's a profitable

proposition.

Dr. Lance, D.C.

Daughter of Alma Virginia

Antidepressant Suicide Victim

P.S. Tomorow is the 33rd month anniversary of Mother's suicide.

Unfortunately, since I'm not drugged into obilivion with no normal human

emotion and am not controlled by the SSRI's that the Mental Health Center

conspired with Judge Ragland to poison my body with while he was refusing to

grant me administration to my Mother's estate, I haven't just " let go "

because I'm not " happy with the results of the treatment " as Dr. Portier,

Dirctor, told the Huntsville Times reporter after I filed the $1,000,000

lawsuit jsut so i coudl get a picture of her the way I found her with those

3 plastic bags over her head and panty hose around her neck into the public

record of Chief Clerk Jane doesn't violate my civil rights an remove

what they don't like to keep as she is prone to do. Just knowing that there

are others sprinkled in small numbers (for now) around the country that

understand and appreciate the pain and suffering of loosing a loved one to

suicide after you've watched them medicate her into the grave for over 3

years is really helping me to heal and get strong and be able to focus again

on healing others again. Thank you again from the bottom of my heart.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS NAME FOR A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME WHEN WE GO TO CONGRESS & GET MEDIA COVERAGE

National Antidepressant Death & Disability Association

NADDA

Close enought to ADHD to sound official?

We also need

________________________________________________

" If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not on " mute " I not

only

> cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

distressing a

> sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

complete sensory

> overload....................... "

I can identify with this ..........with the caveat that I

do have measurable hearing loss at audiogramme testing.

My left ear is by far the worse, when I'm driving the car and I have

a front seat passenger (rem we drive on the right here so passenger

is beside my left ear) we have real issues in holding a conversation.

Often I tip the drivers windscreen rear view mirror and use it as a

lip reading aid ..............so my hearing is pretty poor.

On other occassions, say like the shopping mall, crowds, music ,

public address announcements ..........noise comming from various

directions simultaneously ...............AGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It drives me mad and I want to run away, escape, head for the

hills .............somedays it would be bliss to be totally stone

cold deaf !!!

Yet

In the right setting, say at the Cathedral, my favourite Organist

playing, complex moving pieces ...........I feel them, I'm moved, I

thank God I'm alive ...............in those circumstances the

experience is heightened much more pleasureable than before. I have

become hypersensitive.

The drugs have changed me.

Gsk, Lilly Weyth etc etc .........have let loose something that they

did not fully expect

Re: Hearing loss/tinnitusdrugs are

> > neurotoxins. You mentioned something else once that I forgot to

> comment on and

> > that was not being able to hear you when you spoke if there

> was

> > background noise. This, IMHO, is more a brain injury problem than

> a hearing problem.

> > In brain injuries the filter in your brain that allows you to

> distinguish

> > your voice from the background noise of say, a TV, is damaged, and

> all noise

> > coming into the brain is nothing more than a cacophony of

> indistinguishable

> > sounds. I know. I have the same problem and there is nothing

> wrong with my

> > hearing. If my husband is talking to me and the TV is not

> on " mute " I not only

> > cannot hear what he is saying, but the TV is garbled and it is so

> distressing a

> > sensation that I feel like I'm going to have a seizure. It is

> complete sensory

> > overload.

> >

> >

> > " Blind Reason "

> > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > Unsafe At Any Dose

> >

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