Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Clutter So my question is: Do other LP's find themselves in the same situation, or am I just a slob? Does anyone have any good storage solution suggestions? Help me, Sue --------------- You don't need any help! You are 'normal':-))))))))) Lin and I recently re-modelled the bedroom. When it was finished it looked great! Why? Cos there was nothing on the floor, nothing on the bed etc! We were DETERMINED to keep it that way! Ha! Dam it, the bed really did look good, all made, lovely covers etc, no clothes on it! Didn't last! Why? Cos the easiest way to put clothes away and have clothes ready to wear, is to put them on the bottom of the bed! Dam it, OUR feet don't reach down there, so why not? Putting them away means me forcing Lin's share of the wardrobe (99%) over in order for me to get MY clothes in! Same with getting them out! So, yer, the easiest place is on the bed! The only fault with this logic is stuff on the floor. The floor is the WORST place for us to work, or reach things, yet like you, it is amazing what ends up there! The other reason for this 'apparent' untidiness, is pain! REAL pain! We get enough pain just living! Getting more pain trying to be aesthetically pleasing (cos that is all tidyness is), is stupid! We get no pain putting stuff on the bed, or the floor, etc, and no pain retreaving it, well, not from the bed at least! Lastly, to appease our own conscience, - comparison! I go to visit my sister, not a THING out of place! Almost as if 24/7/365 she is expecting either the queen to visit or is trying to sell her house! BUT, neither is there anything to show her interests, what she does all day, nothun! Come into our house, and like you, there is stuff all over the place, BUT, this house is lived in!!!!!! Which would you rather have? A house ready for showing or a house showing all the signs of who lives there? Amen:-) Fred, a fellow slob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Sue, You are SO right. I had my bed taken off the stand and set on the floor when I was about to have hip surgery so that I could get in and out without climbing. I have been debating ever since (almost 2 years) whether to put it back on the stand and have to climb in - because then I could have some underbed storage room. My desk (home and work) is always a mess, because I tend to place as much as possible within easy reach. I just cleaned my office at work because we were getting a new boss. One of his first comments was, " Clean up your office. " Uh .. . . I thought I had! I hope there's an answer out there for the hopelessly cluttered . . . Alyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 > Clutter > > > So my question is: Do other LP's find themselves in the same situation, or > am I just a slob? Does anyone have any good storage solution suggestions? > > Help me, > Sue > > --------------- > You don't need any help! You are 'normal':-))))))))) Lin and I recently > re-modelled the bedroom. When it was finished it looked great! Why? Cos > there was nothing on the floor, nothing on the bed etc! We were > DETERMINED to keep it that way! Ha! Dam it, the bed really did look > good, all made, lovely covers etc, no clothes on it! > > Didn't last! Why? Cos the easiest way to put clothes away and have > clothes ready to wear, is to put them on the bottom of the bed! Dam it, > OUR feet don't reach down there, so why not? > > Putting them away means me forcing Lin's share of the wardrobe (99%) over > in order for me to get MY clothes in! Same with getting them out! So, > yer, the easiest place is on the bed! > > The only fault with this logic is stuff on the floor. The floor is the > WORST place for us to work, or reach things, yet like you, it is amazing > what ends up there! > > The other reason for this 'apparent' untidiness, is pain! REAL pain! We > get enough pain just living! Getting more pain trying to be aesthetically > pleasing (cos that is all tidyness is), is stupid! We get no pain putting > stuff on the bed, or the floor, etc, and no pain retreaving it, well, not > from the bed at least! > > Lastly, to appease our own conscience, - comparison! I go to visit my > sister, not a THING out of place! Almost as if 24/7/365 she is expecting > either the queen to visit or is trying to sell her house! BUT, neither is > there anything to show her interests, what she does all day, nothun! > > Come into our house, and like you, there is stuff all over the place, BUT, > this house is lived in!!!!!! > > Which would you rather have? A house ready for showing or a house showing > all the signs of who lives there? > > Amen:-) > > Fred, a fellow slob! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I am also happy that I am not the only one that can't keep a clean or should I say " uncluttered' house!!!! I deal with this issue everyday and it drives me crazy....I keep telling myself I NEED to put things in their place...But hey, lets face it, it's easier for EVERYONE in the family to just " lay it down " whereever a " spot " is available...table chair, bed, etc.... I watch my mother-in-law, and sister-in-law (average height) keep immaculate houses from top to bottom, but as I observe them when they " work " around the house, it is ssssoooo much easier for them to put something on a top kitchen shelf or hall closet then it is for " us " ...I need to plan a date and time, when I would get the ladder out to haul the items to their " proper " places!!! I am resolved to the fact that it is OK to have a house that is " lived-in " verses a house that is not!!! I am also glad to hear that we " tire " awfully easy when we do housework....Let's face it, when we clean a window our arms are doing double the work, compared to an AP. If I do gardening and housework, I can only last for a couple of hours in the morning and I am done for the day....!! At least now I know it's my size and not " chronic fatigue " ... Carole Dear Group, Yes after much thought I DO think it has " something " to do with our stature. I do find things thrown on couches chairs and kitchen table. Let's face it it's easy to reach. Round tables rather then long and against the wall work better to reach things. It's really hard at times to keep things put away and up like in some houses hanging something up is harder for someone short than an average person and we know how hard it is for them to want to hang something up ha ha Ahh this subject DID help me realize it's not me being a sloppy house frau. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I don't just clutter, I nest. My chair swivels, it is the only one in the house I can sit in while my feet touch the floor. I have the laptop at twelve o'clock on a small end table. A box with my notebooks for my novel at nine at three a window shade fell down and made a perfect shelf between two chest type boxes and a bowl of Chinese food just got set there. I can turn almost a full circle and reach the things I need daily. My husband has a rather unpleasant name for my nest. What he doesn't realize is that he has a nest as well. Because he can reach further, his nest area is bigger and less cluttered. His extends to a dining room chair for his shirts and the top of the refrigerator and I'll never know what is up there. Why would I clean the counters and stove top when I stopped using them in favor of a chair top and low microwave? Sally and Havan (CCI SSD Exceptional Dogs for Exceptional People) _http://www.tarotreadings.net_ (http://www.tarotreadings.net/) _http://www.customclergy.com_ (http://www.customclergy.com/) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I found this site to be a great help in de-cluttering my house and helping to keep things organized so I can use the lower storage areas to more advantage. It has been a real stress-saver for me. www.flylady.net It's free and full of all kinds of information on things such as making routines so that the house practically cleans itself, de-cluttering so you don't have so much to clean, and tips for us non born organized people. Sabrena, who has been a very happy fly-baby for a few years now. ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I just moved in the beginning of May. The nice thing about moving, is it does give me a chance to throw out things. HOWEVER, I find a LOT of junk. In my old apartment I had one tiny closet and I had to use storage units to help supplement storage space. Now I have 4 closets and I do not use any of the tops shelves expect in the hall closet that I have stored items I won't use on a regular basis. Even with all these closets and smaller storage units, my house is still cluttered. I'm working on getting some system set up for cleaning & organizing. I often wondered why...and I think you are on to something. Although, my father has dwarfism and he is a neat freak, for the most part. It is much easier to put things on the floor or the table than getting a step stool to place something on the shelf. Then I have to wait for a day when I have extra time and I'm not physically hurting or exhausted. I get tired from cleaning very quickly, but I can't stop or I won't be able to start again. I am going to try to set up a system where I have storage boxes on the shelves in my closets and have them labeled. I think it might help. I'm also now seeking a platform bed with drawers under it and a dresser. ~ a > > Group > > As I clean my house for what seems the 100th time in weeks I am starting to wonder about clutter and am coming up with a theory. > > Now I know I am not the neatest of people and some of my cleaning habits could be improved, BUT I am thinking (as I pick so much off of the floor) is any of this associated with my dwarfism? My husband and son are also dwarfs and I notice we don't have a lot of high shelves for storage, places to keep things out of the way, because we need access to it. So much ends up on the floor, thrown on the couch or chairs, or counterspaces because that makes it pretty easy to get to it. Things are on lower shelves and they get filled up quickly. My son's toys are all over his floor so he has access to them, but if I step on another Matchbox car...... He does have some storage, but again, most of the low spaces are taken in his room already. > > So my question is: Do other LP's find themselves in the same situation, or am I just a slob? Does anyone have any good storage solution suggestions? > > Help me, > Sue > > > --------------------------------- > All new > --------------------------------- > Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Group, Yes after much thought I DO think it has " something " to do with our stature. I do find things thrown on couches chairs and kitchen table. Let's face it it's easy to reach. Round tables rather then long and against the wall work better to reach things. It's really hard at times to keep things put away and up like in some houses hanging something up is harder for someone short than an average person and we know how hard it is for them to want to hang something up ha ha Ahh this subject DID help me realize it's not me being a sloppy house frau. Eileen --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 In a message dated 5/23/2007 6:45:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, trophywife05@... writes: You're NOT alone! My mom always made smart comments about how " cluttered " my desk was and then she came up with the realization that when you have short arms you kinda need stuff a little closer to you! So now she backs off, if only I can get my 6'2 " husband to realize that! Gretchen My mom always made us keep a tidy house. Now, she is living in Hawaii and I am in Montana. She never really cut me any slack. Then I had a relationship and baby with a clutter bug who actually couldn't stand that the whole couch was my nest, office, kitchenette. The person I married is also a clutter bug. I had my second child. Now, I have a large swiveling chair with a nest all around me. Hubby can't stand it. However, he cleans by putting everything against walls, under the big trees and against the fence. He clutter the edges and I clutter the middle. If my Mom said she was coming to visit, I'd quick, rent a house, put in some furniture and tell her it was home. Please, Mom, give us a heads up before flying in! S Sally and Havan (CCI SSD Exceptional Dogs for Exceptional People) _http://www.tarotreadings.net_ (http://www.tarotreadings.net/) _http://www.customclergy.com_ (http://www.customclergy.com/) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 You're NOT alone! My mom always made smart comments about how " cluttered " my desk was and then she came up with the realization that when you have short arms you kinda need stuff a little closer to you! So now she backs off, if only I can get my 6'2 " husband to realize that! Gretchen " Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. " - Bumper Sticker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 From: Gretchen Buckalew dwarfism Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:43 AM Subject: Re:Clutter My mom always made smart comments about how " cluttered " my desk was and then she came up with the realization that when you have short arms you kinda need stuff a little closer to you! So now she backs off, if only I can get my 6'2 " husband to realize that! -------- Same as in a restaurant where we insist the waitress puts all the condiments etc, etc, right in front of us! Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 One can explain how to set up Daily/Weekly/As is: Alerts from Google, , DogPile, Ask Jeeves, or any of the other massive search engine lists that provide an alert feature. Don't post the entire alerts from these daily modalities here, such as AutismSpeaks, Mike , Mercola, every vaccine or NWO video at youtube... and like sites., to this No_Forced_Vaccine Group. If people enjoy or are interested in links to go there on their own, they will gravitate to them, or pointed by link to them. Not the entire days alert listing from the Whole Internet. Or if they want info on how to set alerts up, that would be fine as well. But the passion which is unindating this site with largess of late, and of volumnous posts, often with off-topic content, is mindboggling and overwhelming and counter-productive to our cause. I know it makes me want to take a Break! There has become more posts and reading material in one day than one can possible find the time to read in a month...or more. Can't ever catch up. Becomes painful and burdensome. Ok, that is off my chest. OH, and the other thing I remind on occassion, If one wants to press the Reply button to any post, PLEASE change the subject title to reflect what you want to talk about, if it no longer reflects the orginal subject matter heading. Gets utterly confusing, and threads go On and On and On, titled with eroneous headers, that are no longer relevent. Sort of like the post-office game. If it is easier........... just Compose a new email post to: no-forced-vaccination and start a new header subject title for your topic or query. Or go to the main NFV page and hit POST. (left column) This starts a new thread. Think beFore you hit the submit button. And consider your keystrokes and content. Post anything that is off-topic, AS off-topic, (OT), so folks can skip those if they choose. If you are particularly interested in something someone said or sent, that is considered OT, contact them off-group. This is a Very Large Group, and we can't all speak at once, or monopolize. People Are able to find information on their own, that they are seeking. Albeit, there is some very good resource info here. And re-read the home page at NFV. Both the intent of this forum, and it's forum Use of Standards under the file section on the left hand column. Make sure this informative Group is something you respectfully want to be a part of, or contribute to, listen to, learn or be enlightened by. no-forced-vaccination/ Thank you kindly for your consideration. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL (Put down your weapon.... for anyone who feels offended. Nothing personal !) ***Hope you all had a Sweet Valentine's Day!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 One can explain how to set up Daily/Weekly/As is: Alerts from Google, , DogPile, Ask Jeeves, or any of the other massive search engine lists that provide an alert feature. Don't post the entire alerts from these daily modalities here, such as AutismSpeaks, Mike , Mercola, every vaccine or NWO video at youtube... and like sites., to this No_Forced_Vaccine Group. If people enjoy or are interested in links to go there on their own, they will gravitate to them, or pointed by link to them. Not the entire days alert listing from the Whole Internet. Or if they want info on how to set alerts up, that would be fine as well. But the passion which is unindating this site with largess of late, and of volumnous posts, often with off-topic content, is mindboggling and overwhelming and counter-productive to our cause. I know it makes me want to take a Break! There has become more posts and reading material in one day than one can possible find the time to read in a month...or more. Can't ever catch up. Becomes painful and burdensome. Ok, that is off my chest. OH, and the other thing I remind on occassion, If one wants to press the Reply button to any post, PLEASE change the subject title to reflect what you want to talk about, if it no longer reflects the orginal subject matter heading. Gets utterly confusing, and threads go On and On and On, titled with eroneous headers, that are no longer relevent. Sort of like the post-office game. If it is easier........... just Compose a new email post to: no-forced-vaccination and start a new header subject title for your topic or query. Or go to the main NFV page and hit POST. (left column) This starts a new thread. Think beFore you hit the submit button. And consider your keystrokes and content. Post anything that is off-topic, AS off-topic, (OT), so folks can skip those if they choose. If you are particularly interested in something someone said or sent, that is considered OT, contact them off-group. This is a Very Large Group, and we can't all speak at once, or monopolize. People Are able to find information on their own, that they are seeking. Albeit, there is some very good resource info here. And re-read the home page at NFV. Both the intent of this forum, and it's forum Use of Standards under the file section on the left hand column. Make sure this informative Group is something you respectfully want to be a part of, or contribute to, listen to, learn or be enlightened by. no-forced-vaccination/ Thank you kindly for your consideration. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL (Put down your weapon.... for anyone who feels offended. Nothing personal !) ***Hope you all had a Sweet Valentine's Day!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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